March 22, 2024

3 Body Problem Review | Netflix

3 Body Problem Review | Netflix
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Bugs Derek and Noah review Netflix’s '3 Body Problem'! On the menu: podcasters trying to explain scientific theory, Ye’s motivation, Benedict Wong’s amazing portrayal of Da Shi, dehydrated people, microscopic computers, the existential crisis of humanity surviving an alien invasion, and more!

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Hey, I'm Derek.
And I'm Noah.

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You're listening to a Bite of.
Where we take our current

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favorite pop culture obsession
and enjoy it 1 Nibble at a time.

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Or maybe 3 nibbles, depending on
your fancy.

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That's a lot of nibbles.
Yeah, all right.

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Hello, Fellow Bugs 3 Body
Problem Review time.

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Oh man.
Heart sci-fi.

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We've been doing these like
major bites recently.

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It's a lot to process.
It's a lot to process, like

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taking a whole series and
figuring out how to review it

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and talk about it in one
episode.

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But it's fun, right?
It.

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I think it really gets to the
nitty gritty of how we feel

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about something.
I think it's a little bit of a

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challenge.
We're going to rise to it.

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Speaking of rising to the
challenge, before we get into

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everything, you know the typical
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Yeah, that's all I'm going to
say on that Patreon.

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We have that like the show
support the show 3 body problem.

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So now the Three Body Problem
was, as we all know, based on a

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book series.
Noah has read The book I have

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not.
So Noah's going to give us a

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little bit of an intro.
Yeah, I would say so.

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I mean, spoilers I had, yeah,
not for necessarily the book

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series.
So this is going to be

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interesting because I have read
the first book, I'm in the

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middle of the second book.
It's that good.

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And Derek hasn't.
So this is going to be an

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interesting conversation to
somebody that hasn't read the

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book, what they think and
somebody that has and also let

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us know, you know, make sure you
like.

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Comment below, leave review.
Did you read the book?

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Yeah.
Have you read the whole series?

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That's true.
That's something interesting.

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I'm on my way.
I'm trying to make my way to the

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whole series.
All right.

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So the book SO3 Body Problem is
part of the Remembrance of

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Earth's Past trilogy written by
Shu Shu Liu, and it was

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originally serialized for
Science fiction in 2006 before

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it was published as Stand Alone
Book in 2008.

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So that's really cool that it
was serialized in this way.

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And actually makes me think like
that kind of would have been

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cool to read it that way.
Like you only get snippets of it

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as you're going.
A lot of sci-fi actually starts

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out that way because awesome.
In 2006, it received the Galaxy

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Award in Chinese Science
Fiction.

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So it's important to note that
this book was originally written

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in Chinese, which is awesome,
because getting a hard this is,

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I'm going to say this is hard.
Science fiction from a different

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perspective is always fun.
That was one of the things that

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actually drew me to this.
I had this book on my TBR for a

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while and I was like, oh, the
series is coming out.

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This is the perfect time.
Like I have to read it now.

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So in 2014, Tour Books picked it
up and it got an English

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translation and later got a Hugo
award for it.

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That's pretty freaking awesome.
High praise both in China and

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here.
That's really cool.

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It took a little bit for it to
get there, but it kind of tells

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you the extent of the series.
By 2015, a Chinese film

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adaptation of the same name went
into production.

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Chinese TV series, which came
out last year.

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Three Body Problem and then now
a Netflix series.

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So it's been on a wild ride, but
it's finally here.

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I would be interested to see the
Chinese series to see how if

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they stuck closely to the book.
It's more of a one to one

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adaptation.
It's like 30 episodes.

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I actually really want to watch
it.

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Just to see 30, yeah.
And just to see like how the one

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to one translation does.
And also it's from, you know,

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the same people.
So the one thing of note that I

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do want to say is in the
original Chinese book, the parts

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in the beginning, remember we
said spoilers, right?

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That takes place in the Cultural
Revolution was actually pushed

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into the middle of the book,
even though the author initially

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intended it to be the opener.
But because of censorship, they

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don't want to get censored.
So they pushed it further in the

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book, But then when it was
translated into English, they

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moved it to where it should be.
Oh wow.

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And the author himself is like
those bilingual readers.

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I suggest reading this one
because that's how he intended.

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Yeah, so fun little fun little
snippet.

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Yeah, that's really interesting.
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So should we get into it?
So.

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That was a Little Little Book
Club, Little Book Club Corner.

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You know we love our books here.
I love a little book nook come

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together, talk about some books.
We love books.

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All right, so let us officially
take a bite of Netflix's Three

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Body Problem, created by David
Benioff, DB Weiss, and Alexander

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Wu.
Yay Wing Jay becomes part of a

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secret team in 1960s China that
is trying to communicate with

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beings from another universe.
She makes contact and invites

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them to Earth.
In the present, mysterious

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occurrences begin happening to a
group of five Oxford educated

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scientists known as the Oxford
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Would have known.
After one of their mentors takes

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their own life, it is revealed
the alien race known as the

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Santee have followers on Earth
and will arrive in 400 years.

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Panic ensues and a plan is
created to infiltrate the Santee

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before their impending invasion.
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Well, I mean, that lays the
groundwork for the series.

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But there's so much that goes
into this show, rightfully so.

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I think a lot of fans of the
book were kind of like nervous

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for it because I feel like there
are some, yeah, I would say like

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maybe 10 years ago or even a
little less than that.

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But like some books you're like,
this can't be made for screen,

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right?
Like, how are you going to do

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that without completely losing a
lot of it?

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But as you said, the Beatle that
made it so DB wise and Dem Ben

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and off to Game of Thrones.
So I'm pretty good last.

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Season aside, last two seasons
aside, when they have source

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material, they know what they're
doing.

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That's a good point.
So I was, I was very sceptical,

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but I I trust the process right
and.

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I do know that.
I mean, I don't know how

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involved, but I do know that the
author did sort of give them the

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OK to do this.
So it wasn't like they just took

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something and ran with it.
They got his input as well,

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yeah.
They had the the author did sign

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off on a lot of it, and they
wanted to take it out of China

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and do more of like an
international cast, just to

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wider appeal and to bring
different perspectives into it.

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And the author himself was like,
yeah, sure, OK, that's cool.

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Well, one of the major changes
that at least I know of is that

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these five characters don't
necessarily exist in the book.

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It's really one main character
that's following the through

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line.
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There are some like series
specifically made characters.

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All of these characters have
different names than the book,

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but they're they are characters
pulled from the third, the

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second book, and moved forward.
One of the critiques that I felt

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and that I feel like quite a few
people share with the first book

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is that it's like it's a
prologue almost to the rest of

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the series.
And reading the first book,

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it's, you know, sometimes you
want that, like emotional

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connection or like that
character concept and stuff like

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that.
And the book isn't that.

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And I think it's by design that
it's not that way.

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But you kind of miss that.
So when adapting it to TV, they

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kind of added that they gave
them stories.

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They have them know each other.
So you have that.

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And so Speaking of the show, how
did you feel?

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How did you feel about the show
in a a grander scale?

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Like what hit for you?
I enjoyed the show and I think I

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think unfortunately I was
expecting something a little

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different.
But after watching it and really

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thinking about it, the way that
I've been putting it together in

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my head is that I thought to
myself, OK, Derek, what are two

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sci-fi movies, recent sci-fi
movies that you've enjoyed?

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And I thought Annihilation and
Arrival, right.

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So Annihilation feels more like
an action, sci-fi, right?

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Like running from the beast.
Whereas Annihilation is more

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contemplative and sort of
working in a very scientific way

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to figure out what's going on.
And I feel like Arrival and

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Three Body Problem have a
similar feel to it.

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It's a little more quiet, it's a
little more cerebral.

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And I think once I put it in
that frame, I was like, now I

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get this, not that I didn't get
it before.

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And I just like every episode, I
was just kind of like left

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thinking.
So I think that going into this

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thinking you're going to get
like a Fifth Element, you know,

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blasters, you know UFOs coming
in, that is not what you should

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be expecting.
No, not at all.

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And I actually really like that,
right?

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Because we have our sci-fi, kind
of sci-fi fantasy stuff that's

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out there, like Star Wars and
all that, where it it's the

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action, right?
It's the spectacle of the thing,

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it's the gadget.
And in this one, it's not that.

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I mean there is the gadget in
the VR headset, but that's

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really the only like super
sci-fi thing that you would

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normally think of that's in this
series or in the show.

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But I really like that when we
start the series, we're in 1960s

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China during the Cultural
Revolution and it starts in such

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a gruesome and like, oh God way
that is real.

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Like, this is a not that
particular instance, but stuff

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like that did happen.
So like for something for sci-fi

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to start that way, so real and
then you get into like what the

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fiction part of it is, was
really cool.

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Yeah.
And and I think that that was an

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extremely strong beginning.
And as you obviously watch the

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entire series, starting Who is
Doctor Yay in with that story,

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with that scene makes so much
sense for the character to see

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her journey and where her
thought process goes in dealing

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with this entire invasion, yeah.
I really liked that they.

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I mean, if you were, if you were
to say like the most, like

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integral or central character in
this first season or in the

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first book, it's yeah, I mean,
she the Doctor, yeah.

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She is very much the catalyst
for why everything happens.

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It really worked with me that
they worked for me that they

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didn't step away from that,
right?

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Because they could have very
easily been like we're going to

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kind of like do the 1960 stuff
and then like the stuff in the

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present or the future is more
important.

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And I like that they did mix
that really well.

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They were probably the more
compelling parts for me because

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you you want to see like why she
made these decisions.

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Do I agree with them?
I can't really say, right,

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because I'm not in that
position.

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I mean, to see your family
completely, literally get torn

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apart in such a public way, and
that's like what the society is

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telling you.
I couldn't put myself in that

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situation, yeah.
I It's funny, I don't know if

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it's that I agree with what she
did, but I see how she did it

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and why she did it.
And they show her step by step,

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completely losing her faith in
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So just OK again, spoiler
spoiler spoiler.

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I mean, I said it in the in the
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beginning, but she's the one
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the Santi to Earth to take over,
right?

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I did.
Want to Sorry, I did want to

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point out something because like
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was kind of confused because
Trislerian is what they are and

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I think Santi is the actual
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So when I kept hearing that, I
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Santi?
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I read an article that said try.
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the book because it's three sons
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right?
So it's kind of, you know, A

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twist on the sort of same
concept, right?

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But yeah, that is.
But in in the show, they're

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called the Saunti.
And so, you know, in looking at

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her journey, right, in that
first scene, she's watching her

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father be beat to death and also
watching her mother completely

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betray him and her.
Then from there, a fellow person

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in the camp betrays her by not
sticking up for her When they

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find the English book, a soldier
steals her idea from there.

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father, who has no remorse for
doing it, she's like, there is

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nothing to save here, right?
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Everything is awful.
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I can't.
No one can do anything to make

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humans act correctly.
So please take over.

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that's that's the point of this
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It's like the the philosophical
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the real versus like what I'm
going to decide, it's the

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existential versus.
I mean, you can keep going on

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and on and that's like the big
broad concepts of this story,

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which I think is what has kind
of propelled it into being in

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people's minds and continuing to
get the attention it deserves

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because it asks these huge
questions.

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And as far as the the show goes,
I think they did a decent job of

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showing like those types of
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Like you get to see her journey
into, like, you know, being an

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actual prisoner, them being
forced to do this thing, and

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then being presented with this
opportunity to like if there's

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something out there that can
make us better or just replace

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us because we're not doing the
right thing, what is somebody

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going to do in that situation?
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terrifying.
And then her consequences ripple

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throughout the cosmos and
throughout the world, in

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history.
And it's a, it's a great concept

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to have the Oxford 5 and
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How did you feel about them?
I think that some of them were

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stronger than others.
I do like though that by the end

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of these eight episodes you see
the role that each of the five

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of them is playing in this
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that.
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particular, Will, who I was
really questioning for the first

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six episodes, not necessarily
knowing why he was a part of it,

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but then by the end he is sort
of integral to the future of

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them fighting the Santi.
But I appreciated that in the

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beginning is like, oh, it's just
all about Augie.

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And then it's like, oh wait, no,
it's all about Jin.

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And then Jack has his thing.
And so it was nice that each of

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them had their own set piece and
and and role in this entire

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universe.
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I I feel the same way.
I kind of like cast like this

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where it's like there isn't a
main character, it's an A true

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ensemble cast for like each one
plays a part and like maybe it's

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not apparent until towards the
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them almost had their own

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episodes or reason for being
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Even though it's not apparent,
the the story I feel like does

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do a roller coaster right?
It's like there's stuff that's

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super fast-paced and there's
stuff where it's very quiet and

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very, I don't want to say slow,
but it's kind of it's exposition

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and conversation heavy, right?
And you have like an episode

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where the universe is blinking,
and then you have an episode

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where they're talking about
theoretical physics and stuff

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like that.
The character that I think did

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it for me in the end was Saul.
He really, I don't know, just by

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the end of it, and especially
those last two episodes, I was

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like, I really like this
character and he kind of snuck

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up on me.
The character that I felt was

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weakest for me was Will and I
enjoyed his parts towards the

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end.
But like, I don't know.

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The love story between Jen and
Will was just a little like,

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yeah.
I think, you know, you touched

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on it before and saying that
this, the season itself is a bit

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of a roller coaster and it does
get, it does slow down in

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episode six and seven.
And that is really when we're

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seeing the end of Will's journey
and that whole love story.

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It felt like it could have gone
somewhere, but they kept

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stopping it before it went
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And the reason that I ended up
in liking Will so much is that I

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was trying to really think about
what do each of these people

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represent.
And so for me, like Saul is the

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reluctant leader, right?
He's used to taking the back

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seat, but now he has to be a
leader.

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I think that Jin is the one that
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I think that Augie is the one
who was watching the thing that

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she created be used in the wrong
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Jack is the one who completely
turned his back on it.

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And then he's like.
I'm going to go and make money,

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Jack.
Snacks, baby.

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And Will.
The interesting thing about Will

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is right.
He very much accepts his role in

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the world.
He very much accepts his fate.

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And what's so interesting is
that this man who has been told

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that he's dying, he's diagnosed
with pancreatic cancer, he goes

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with it graciously.
And to see that juxtaposed to

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the rest of the world, who
starts to immediately panic when

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they find out an alien race is
400 years away and some of them

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even take their own lives.
It's so interesting that this

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person who knew that they were
going to die now and could not

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control it, goes with it
willingly.

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And so I thought that was such a
deep thing to finally get to

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that.
I thought, wow, that was really

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impressive for what that
character stands for.

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Yeah.
And they they were quiet for

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most of the series.
It's like, oh, he is a teacher

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now, right?
And it's like the rest of them

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had their parts to play and you
don't really find out his part

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until way later.
And then even then, his part is

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just to be like, yeah, OK, I
hadn't just send me into space.

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I had.
Another thought.

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So, you know, Jin gives him that
goldfish.

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And then I was like, oh, my God,
he's kind of the goldfish.

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Yeah.
His brain is just in that

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canister.
Yeah.

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You.
Can't do anything about it.

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Oh, my God, you're you're up to
fate at that point.

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Is somebody going to feed me?
Is somebody going to take care

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of me?
All right.

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P But you did touch on one point
that I think is absolutely

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insane.
So the the first season of the

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show actually bleeds in to a lot
of the second book and pull some

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things from the third book as
well.

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But about episode 5:00-ish, I
would say, like when the bugs

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when it says on all the screens,
when the Sofon Sofon thing does

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its thing on all the screens, it
says you are bugs.

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It's kind of like where the
first book ends.

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So all the wall facer stuff and
the will stuff, all of that

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doesn't happen yet, but it's
absolutely insane.

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And one of the coolest things
about this series is that like,

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you find out that yes, there is
life out there.

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Yes, they are reaching out.
Yes, there's the whole like

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cultists and like weird like ETO
out there, but they're not going

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to be here for 400 years, which
is insane because like most of

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the time when we're reading or
experiences sci-fi and stuff,

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they have like warp speed, they
can get to where they want to

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go.
It's.

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World of War?
It's a hero, right?

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But it's like, no, they're
coming.

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And the terrifying thing is, is,
like, OK, now what are we going

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to do as a collective human race
to prepare for that escape?

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It Stop them?
Like, that's the thing that

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makes the series.
So like, oh, I don't know what I

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would do.
We're going to fall apart.

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We're going to fall apart.
It's funny that you I I in my

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notes I had written that there's
like ABB before bug and AB after

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bug, because it really does feel
like there's such a turn when

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that happens.
And I didn't know that that's

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how the first book ended.
So that makes a lot of sense in

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seeing it in the series, yeah?
Yeah, it's it's such a really

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cool thing and a a great way to
tell this kind of story because

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it's unique and that like OK,
they are advanced, right.

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One of the conversations that
happens in the show is like, you

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know, we as a human race have
advanced a lot from like the

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industrial age to now in a
shorter amount of time from like

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the medieval to the industrial
age.

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But they're way ahead of us, and
they are already doing measures

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60 years prior to the present in
this to stop our science.

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And like again, the the series
has so many like scientifical

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physical physics in it that are
like baffling but like really

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cool once you, I guess,
understand it.

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Which I didn't.
Well, is there something so like

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in the series so far in the
season one, is there something

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that like you wish you could
have understood more?

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Like, is there something that
was more baffling than the rest

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of it?
Yeah.

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And for me it was so the Sofons.
So also they said it so fast and

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a lot of them have British
accents.

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I thought they were saying cell
phones a lot, the cell phones,

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Cell phones.
So the Sofons are ever expanding

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Protons and there are four of
them, but two of them are here

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and they've gone inside all of
our technology and they make the

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stars blink like the exactly.
It's it's like, you know, I

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don't know.
It was like they did this, yeah.

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It's it's one of those things
where in the book, I believe

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it's like Chapter 33 in the
book.

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It's towards the end because in
the first book you get the

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perspective of the Sonti or the
Trisolarans and they're doing

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that.
So you get to figure out, you

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get to see how they took that
proton.

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It's all about dimensions,
right?

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It's like our brain can't
conceive dimensions higher than

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whatever.
I can't even understand what

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they're talking about.
I was so bewildered by that I

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still don't understand it.
We're not physicists.

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We're not geniuses.
But like the best way I this is

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just me kind of working it out
in real time with everybody Is

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that like if you took a piece of
paper and like it's crumpled up

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and then you spread it back out,
the surface is going to be

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bigger in two dimensions right
from here to like bigger.

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And So what they did is they
took a proton and like stretched

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it out so the surface becomes
bigger.

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Then they built a computer on
it.

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It's like the size of a world
and then put it back down to

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very small, right.
And so that it like, transcends

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dimensions and like that's how
they can communicate with the

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humans in real time and also
affect their sciences.

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And like, it's bananas.
I don't understand it, but it's

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cool as hell, yeah.
You know what question always

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gets me that freaks me out?
Do you think there are other

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colours in the universe that we
haven't seen before?

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Yes.
And when you think about it

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though, you're like, I can't
compute other colours, you

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can't.
So that's what that was to me.

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I was like, I was watching the
graphic, I was watching them

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stretch out the proton and I'm
like, what?

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And then it got really small and
it flew somewhere.

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It was in our computers.
There's like.

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Something that's like intertwine
quantum, something I don't know,

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like the.
Quantum of Solace Quantumania.

433
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,560
I don't like that movie, but
there there's like actual

434
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,120
theories in this book that are
just like they're trying to be

435
00:23:48,120 --> 00:23:50,680
proven or they're actual, real
things that are being worked on.

436
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:56,800
And it's like if that does
exist, like the concept of just

437
00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:02,160
a loan of their of a more
advanced species out there is

438
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,320
terrifying because one why
haven't we seen them or have we

439
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:11,440
3 body problem but like it's
just wild to think about.

440
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,080
Yeah, it's.
Like when I took calculus and my

441
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,800
teacher was like, remember how
we used to find the areas of

442
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,760
parallelograms?
We're like, yeah, she's like,

443
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,880
OK, but now it's 3 dimensional
and now we're just looking for a

444
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,360
certain point in that
parallelogram and now we're

445
00:24:26,360 --> 00:24:29,880
going to find the area of that.
It was like, what?

446
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:30,880
No.
Why?

447
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,440
I I love sci-fi.
I love hard sci-fi.

448
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,600
I love just hearing it.
Will I understand it?

449
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,520
Probably not.
You have to like, lay it out for

450
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,280
me, but like, not good at it.
I don't like.

451
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,280
I'm.
I'm glad I am where I am.

452
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,800
I wish I could understand it,
but I know my strengths.

453
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,680
You.
Know who I did appreciate.

454
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:55,160
So yeah, when she is younger,
when she was explaining how they

455
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,280
were going to use the Sun to
amplify their signal, I was

456
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,160
like, I understood that.
There is.

457
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,320
She's a good teacher, one of not
a good.

458
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:03,960
Mother, but she's a good
teacher, she.

459
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,160
Is not a good mother in the
book.

460
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,640
She's not a Good Wife either
because she sees an opportunity

461
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,920
to kill her husband and she's
like, well, well, sorry, well,

462
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,760
not necessarily kill her
husband, but she has to kill

463
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:19,960
somebody And her husband just
just, oh, wow, wow, read the

464
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,200
book.
It's crazy.

465
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,600
One of the things that I was
missing from the show from a

466
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:30,080
book reader standpoint is there,
There's these like, allegories

467
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,320
and ways of explaining things in
the book that I really enjoyed.

468
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:35,840
And I'm going to get like super
nerdy with it.

469
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,680
But like, it helped me as a
reader to understand some of the

470
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,800
things.
So there's this thing that is

471
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,480
presented in the book called the
shooter and the farmer, and the

472
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:50,640
shooter is so say a shooter
shoots a target, right?

473
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,320
And every 10 centimeters there's
a bullet hole or whatever.

474
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,720
And say that there's
two-dimensional sentient beings

475
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,960
on that target.
Their law of the universe is

476
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,920
every 10 centimeters there's a
hole in the universe.

477
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,040
But that they think that's how
the universe works.

478
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,280
But it was just the shooter.
I'm just shooting a target like

479
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:12,680
it's.
But they're creating laws,

480
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,760
right?
The farmer is Turkey farmer.

481
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,640
Every day at 11:00 AM, ghost
feeds the Turkey.

482
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,240
The scientist Turkey is like
every day at 11:00 AM, we get

483
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:23,520
our food.
That is the law.

484
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,320
That's what's going to happen.
It doesn't happen on

485
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,080
Thanksgiving because it goes and
kills the Turkey.

486
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,800
Your whole concept of reality,
it's just completely changed.

487
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,320
And I think that's one of the
cool things that's presented in

488
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,520
this story.
And they did a fairly good job,

489
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,200
I feel like, in this show with
doing that.

490
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,560
Am I the Turkey?
Yes.

491
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:51,160
No, I I think that, like, for
trying to adapt something like

492
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:55,040
this, they did a decent job.
I don't know if all of the

493
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,400
stories kind of hit the way they
were supposed to, but I'm glad

494
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,480
that there was each one of the
Oxford Five, there was something

495
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,480
that you could relate to, right?
Or, you know, somebody that's

496
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,480
like that in the friend group or
whatever.

497
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,320
So I'm glad that they tried to
get that human connection in

498
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,440
there for a story that is just
massive and ambitious like this,

499
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,880
yeah.
I think that there are certain

500
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,600
things, personally, I think in
this series that they could have

501
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,640
trimmed down a little and made
it a little fast pace.

502
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,760
And I'm not saying that there
needed to be more action.

503
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,880
I think that some of the parts
where they were really getting

504
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,440
into these conversations about
the science and what was going

505
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,720
on while they were interesting,
if you're not understanding it,

506
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,720
you could lose it very easily.
And so I think if they just

507
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,120
trimmed some of that back, the
pace would have picked up and it

508
00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:45,240
would have felt like it was
moving along a little more

509
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,240
quickly.
You know what I didn't expect in

510
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,360
this, Speaking of like, pacing
and stuff like that.

511
00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:53,160
So John Bradley, who is a Game
of Thrones alum, I believe

512
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,360
there's two other Game of
Thrones alum in here.

513
00:27:56,360 --> 00:27:59,120
Him dying.
Didn't expect that in a very

514
00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:02,440
gruesome way, But I really, I
really appreciated Jen and

515
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,840
Jack's relationship.
It was kind of fun to see that,

516
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:09,120
Like, they both really got into
the game of it right And they

517
00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:11,240
had that connection I was going.
To ask what did you think of the

518
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:12,800
game?
I liked it.

519
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:19,760
I think visually and spectacle
wise, a story like this, it does

520
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,880
well for it, like it adds to it.
I really liked it because it's

521
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:27,000
like one of those things where,
OK, it's a game that's not like

522
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,480
a fighting game or anything like
that.

523
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:29,920
It's a puzzle.
You have to figure it out.

524
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,240
And then there's an extra layer
of like it's just a recruitment

525
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:39,120
tool for the ETO bananas.
So I always I like that the

526
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,320
story has the detective story in
it and then that crazy cults

527
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,920
idealistic of like, Nope, we're
done.

528
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,000
We're doomed.
Human race is done.

529
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,640
We believe in the Lord and they
need to come here and we're

530
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,160
going to do it by any means
necessary.

531
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,160
It's just really smart.
It's a smart way to do it.

532
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:59,000
But I my favorite if I had to
pick times that they went into

533
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:04,040
the game was during the human
computer or calculator when all

534
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,480
three Suns lined up and they all
just the gravity of it all.

535
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,680
Just so cool.
Yeah, in case now correct me if

536
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,400
I'm wrong, in case you aren't
going to watch the show and

537
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,840
you're just listening to us and
you're like, what the hell is

538
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,360
the three body problem?
So the three body problem is

539
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,080
that this one planet is in the
gravitational pull of three

540
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,720
different Suns.
And dependent of each other,

541
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,960
right?
And so it's How do you save this

542
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:34,760
world when these three celestial
bodies are revolving around it?

543
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,480
Or just.
One of, like, scientifically,

544
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,760
that's a real thing, right?
It's like one of the hardest

545
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,440
things to try to figure out.
It's like, how does something

546
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,200
like that survive, right, when
you have three different things?

547
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,240
Yeah.
And I know I got some of that

548
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,720
wrong, and I know someone's
going to be like, no, it's.

549
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:57,480
Pretty much, right, Thanks.
Did you have a favorite moment

550
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:02,240
in the three body game?
I think, well, I loved that when

551
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,920
everybody was floating away.
I thought that was really

552
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,440
incredible, but I think the most
shocking thing are dehydrated

553
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,440
human balls.
So awesome.

554
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:13,840
They roll them up like fruit
roll ups.

555
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,640
Oh.
Mama, they said, look at this.

556
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,600
It's like when you take a fruit
roll up as a kid, you just smash

557
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,080
it together and then you put it
in your mouth.

558
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,400
They were like.
Yeah, yeah.

559
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,040
It's so cool.
Yeah.

560
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,640
That was pretty.
It was it was so shocking.

561
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,840
But then seeing them come back
to life and rehydrate, it was

562
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,080
very cool.
There's.

563
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:36,280
Side note, in the book, count
and follower are in the book as

564
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,280
well.
The little girl.

565
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,440
And when Wong, who is the
character in the book that

566
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,320
really is an algamation of these
five characters.

567
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,400
The main through character of
the book should say they had.

568
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,960
There's a conversation where
like you haven't fed me in days.

569
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,680
What am I supposed to do?
And you won't let me eat the

570
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,000
dehydrated.
Corky Human jerky.

571
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,640
It's just it's so funny.
They really go into detail of

572
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,280
that.
Like they have like

573
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,360
depositories.
You kind of see in the show

574
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,960
where there's like those Dome
houses where they were like

575
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,960
throwing the dehydrated people
into the water in there.

576
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,200
It's like some people that
rehydrated because rats got in

577
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,920
there or like some type of
vermin and like part of their

578
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,200
like, head and they're like
bleeding and yeah, it's crazy.

579
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,280
Oh my.
Gosh, you know, I was thinking

580
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:30,440
about the game.
And so we see that Jin gets a

581
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:35,160
headset, right, and Jack puts it
on and the, you know, she comes

582
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,480
out and she's like, you're not
invited.

583
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,760
She cuts his head off.
And I thought, oh, you know,

584
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:44,400
that doesn't make sense.
Because if yes, it was really

585
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,320
her daughter's game, then how
come Jin could go in it?

586
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,920
And then I realized, no, it
wasn't her daughter's game.

587
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,840
She purposely gave it to Jin and
she's like, oh, I don't know

588
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,240
what it is.
I just play, you know, pong

589
00:31:58,560 --> 00:31:59,520
Liar.
Yeah.

590
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,520
Yeah, she is.
I love this character so much

591
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,120
because she's so complicated.
And she goes through this like

592
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,160
roller coaster of, like, you
know, seeing her in the 1960s

593
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,840
and seeing her now and seeing
her like, be this leader of the

594
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,920
ETO, but then like kind of back
peddling a little bit and

595
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,040
seeing, like, what she did, It's
insane.

596
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,880
So insane Can.
I talk about a character that I

597
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:21,760
didn't like.
I.

598
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:22,800
Know who it is?
But yeah.

599
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,120
Who?
Tatiana.

600
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:24,800
Yes.
Yeah.

601
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,200
Oh, it's because of my notes.
No, no.

602
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,280
It's because every time when she
was hobbling away during the ETO

603
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,160
meeting, you're like, I hate her
because.

604
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:39,040
So these characters always
frustrate the hell out of me

605
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,000
because.
They're unstoppable.

606
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,920
They're.
Unstoppable for no reason other

607
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,360
than they're just written that
they're unstoppable.

608
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:53,640
Can I say I loved her because
this, like, look, she has of

609
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,560
this, like, completely devoted
to her, 'cause just like how she

610
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,440
does her face.
And like, look, I'm like you

611
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,040
terrify me oh.
Yeah, the the actor's portrayal

612
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,720
is fantastic.
It's just that, like, come on,

613
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,720
she's crawling on the floor.
She went soldiers with, you

614
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,200
know, automatic weapons
everywhere.

615
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,120
And she's like nobody notices
her. 20 miles just like, yeah.

616
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,800
Where did she go?
How did she fix it?

617
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,160
I'm I'm like I can't stabs Jack
in the neck.

618
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,520
That's where you're done with
it.

619
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:30,120
You're just.
This man is like a £250 man and

620
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:35,600
in one she got him No no, Oh.
Come on, that's where.

621
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,520
That's where you draw the line.
Yeah, that's OK.

622
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,080
All the theoretical science, I
get it.

623
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,560
We can't not talk about Benedict
Wong as Dasha.

624
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,560
What a guy.
So cool.

625
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,840
The one of the coolest parts
about this story Feel like I've

626
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,240
said that a lot.
I just really like this story

627
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,160
and this.
Everything is the whole

628
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,720
detective and the mystery of it,
right?

629
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,520
There's mystery from mystery.
I do feel like some of the

630
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,440
mysteries were kind of just like
solved and then pushed aside.

631
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,920
It's like the whole point of
this is to like figure this out

632
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,239
and it's like, oh next problem
his.

633
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,159
Job shifted very quickly.
I mean, it's whatever he needs

634
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:13,440
it to be, I guess.
Whatever.

635
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:14,719
Wade is like, you're doing this
now.

636
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:19,040
He's like, OK, but the whole
countdown in the scientists eyes

637
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,880
and like, over 30 scientists
have been killed and leading up

638
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:26,080
to Auggie getting them in her
eye, I liked how he was kind of

639
00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:31,040
the one to bring the Oxford 5
into this giant thing, right?

640
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,960
His detective story is very
compelling.

641
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:36,639
He also has some of the best
line deliveries in this.

642
00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:38,679
And that's just 'cause it's
Benedict Wong.

643
00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:43,800
Like, when I was reading this
book, I knew he was casted as

644
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,199
his character.
But I'm like, yeah, like this

645
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:49,600
is, I can't imagine anybody else
playing this character.

646
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:51,280
He's very good.
Yeah.

647
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,320
He's so good and I, you know,
you fall in love with him as

648
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,360
wongers, you know what I mean?
And so to see him kind of coming

649
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,320
out and playing a whole
different character, it was he

650
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,160
was great.
He was really fantastic.

651
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,800
Because you brought up Augie.
I think we need to talk about

652
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,880
the most gruesome part of this,
yes.

653
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:14,800
Yeah, this is like, this is
where Dan and DB really shine.

654
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:19,440
Game of Thrones, they are all in
on like going and pushing the

655
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,240
envelope and showing you these
things.

656
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,200
The scene, the scene in the
Panama Canal where her nano

657
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:30,720
fibers are used to literally
just kill everybody on Judgement

658
00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:34,080
day with no remorse, no way of
stopping.

659
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,760
It is amazing.
It's.

660
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:41,600
Like that scene in that haunted
ship movie Go.

661
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:42,600
Ship go.
Ship.

662
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,120
Yeah.
Where the wire cuts all their

663
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,840
heads off, Yeah.
But instead of that, it's the

664
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:52,720
entire ship.
Yes, the way they did that in

665
00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:54,840
the book, it's like a page long,
that thing.

666
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,640
You don't really get all of this
stuff.

667
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,160
So for it to be played out for
like a good chunk of the episode

668
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,320
and like being terrified of the
thing you can't see and the

669
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:10,040
quickness of people just being
sliced and dropped, so cool, I

670
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:10,920
guess.
You know what?

671
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,040
It was a quick death I.
Yeah, that's cool.

672
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,200
I really liked it.
Yeah.

673
00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:17,080
Yeah, that was amazing.
It was like I felt like I'd been

674
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,240
waiting for something like that
to happen, so.

675
00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:19,960
Cool.
It's like.

676
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,400
Get them.
Get them all with your Nano

677
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,240
knives.
Slice them.

678
00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:26,960
That's what you get for telling
them about Little Red Riding

679
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,000
Hood and them questioning.
Wait, I have.

680
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:34,840
OK, so I have another question.
I'm jumping around, but what did

681
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:40,000
you think the significance of
the fairy tales is throughout?

682
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:43,320
Because it's not just him
reading her the fairy tales.

683
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,800
Well, I think I don't know if I
know the answer, but this is how

684
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:52,160
I interpreted the reason of them
being there is that those are

685
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:57,160
stories that have stood the test
of time in that them being

686
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,640
actual fairy tales or, you know,
legends that people tell.

687
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:05,440
These are ways to show lessons
and what has shaped us.

688
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,280
And so I think the significance
of the Little Red Riding Hood

689
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,920
one was to show that there is
deceit and there is lies and

690
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,360
there is a reason for it.
And with when you're talking

691
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:22,320
about a, you know, beings that
literally don't speak, it's all

692
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,280
with their mind.
There's no like filter of like,

693
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,160
thinking and speaking.
It just does.

694
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,200
They can't understand that, like
they're not able to process

695
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,560
that.
And that's what really is like,

696
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,720
oh, I don't trust you now like I
thought I was.

697
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,360
You communicated like us, but
you don't.

698
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:44,040
But yeah, I generally think it's
like that was his way of showing

699
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,720
them or like telling them this
is how humans are.

700
00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:48,720
These are the lessons that we
learned because they know

701
00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:50,520
everything.
They've read the Internet.

702
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,480
So like, now I need the nuances.
They've.

703
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,240
Edited Wikipedia, Dante are the
best.

704
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,080
So is there anything in the show
that didn't work for you?

705
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,840
Like was there something that
really was like hurdle or like

706
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,240
just kind of left you, like you
can take it or leave it?

707
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,320
I think that, like I said
before, some of the pacing was a

708
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,920
bit of a problem for me.
I also think not all of them,

709
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,640
but one or two of the characters
felt a little one-dimensional to

710
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,200
me.
So someone like dimension,

711
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,160
someone like Wade felt very
one-dimensional to me.

712
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:32,160
He just like existed as he was.
We don't know how he got to

713
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,480
where he is.
We don't know how he knows all

714
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,840
this stuff, OK?
I will just say I love a shadow

715
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,720
organization.
I love give me all of the

716
00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:44,240
acronym organizations and stuff
like this.

717
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,720
Yeah, I mean he he played the
character right.

718
00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:48,640
It's like it wasn't nothing
anything new.

719
00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:49,640
I I agree.
Sorry.

720
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,960
I just wanted to say that like I
love the organization of it all.

721
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,400
I.
Think it's cool that there's

722
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,480
some secret organization that's
looking at the planet to save

723
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:58,760
them?
Definitely.

724
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,520
But I I just thought that that
character like I don't know why

725
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,640
he had so much power.
I don't know how he understands

726
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,000
physics and also.
Does he I?

727
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,280
Don't know, but he was the OK.
Oh, so I had a thought about

728
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:17,360
him, though I'm probably
completely wrong because of the.

729
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,520
OK, so here's the truth.
I fell asleep on the last

730
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,440
episode, so I missed the last,
like 20 minutes.

731
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,160
And so I had this theory before
I watched it where I thought

732
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,840
that maybe he was part of the
Santee because he just knew

733
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:36,520
things like, even when he was
like, we need something lighter

734
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,640
to go in the ship.
Well, you know what I mean?

735
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,880
I was like, what?
Like he just knows everything.

736
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,280
Well, I think that's like the
that's him, right.

737
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,360
Like he, he is able to, in a way
kind of be like, yeah.

738
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,560
Of like making those hard
decisions of like, yeah, this is

739
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,560
what we need.
I've already been testing this

740
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,320
thing us as a human race, even
though we can't advance our

741
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,840
technology.
And it's been a lie for the last

742
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,680
60 years, we've been able to
perfect hibernation.

743
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,920
So oh, how are we going to spy
on them?

744
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:11,200
Let's send a brain up there.
You know, like, I I didn't buy

745
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:12,800
it when he was like, I'm going
to go up there.

746
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,320
I'm like you're a liar.
Like you're going to but you're

747
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,720
also going to hibernate.
I agree with that, but I don't

748
00:40:17,720 --> 00:40:19,360
think you're you were going to
go up there ever.

749
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:20,320
He's.
Like I just want to live

750
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,160
forever.
But I mean, Liam Cunningham,

751
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,960
Game of Thrones alone?
Oh yeah, amazing.

752
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,240
Just wanted to put that out
there.

753
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,120
Fantastic in Game of Thrones.
Delightful in this.

754
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,680
I just thought this character
wasn't as strong as his Game of

755
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:33,520
Thrones I.
Agree.

756
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,560
And I I think the one thing that
didn't work for me was Augie.

757
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,880
I thought actor, great.
The character itself, I was just

758
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,400
like, OK, like you created the
nano fibers.

759
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,240
I think the most compelling part
of her was to deal with what her

760
00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:49,800
life's work has done.
And then like, nobody like

761
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,960
understanding why she's
grappling with this.

762
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,320
I thought was great, but that
was like a very small portion

763
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,440
because then once that happens,
it's gone, right?

764
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,160
It came to Mexico.
So that was, what was it?

765
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:01,640
I agree.
That was what was interesting

766
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,000
about that character.
And it almost felt like that

767
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,600
thing that you set up before
about some of the mysteries and

768
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,240
how they were just solved and
then disappeared.

769
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,760
I felt like she was similar to
that, right?

770
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,720
She was like very integral in
the first episode, In the second

771
00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:16,440
episode.
And then once Panama happened,

772
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,160
she was like goodbye, you know,
that was really it.

773
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,520
So I I agree that that
character, I think, fell a

774
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,320
little flat for me as well.
Yeah.

775
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:29,640
Overall, I think great.
I I I very much liked it.

776
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,040
I think they did a good job of
adapting it.

777
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,600
It's hard.
I I can understand why this

778
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,360
would be very intimidating.
But also we've gotten like two

779
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,400
other adaptations.
I think there's an animated show

780
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,640
maybe I could be wrong on that,
but it's like one of those

781
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,680
things where it's like, OK, the
things that seemed unadaptable

782
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,520
might actually be adaptable.
Now you just have to make it

783
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,080
like, comprehensible for general
audiences.

784
00:41:55,080 --> 00:42:00,000
And I think that you can see why
they made some of those changes

785
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:05,280
to like, make it like a show
that most people would enjoy,

786
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,000
yeah.
And I I think really creating

787
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,360
those human relationships and
giving the Oxford 5 those back

788
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:15,320
stories was definitely helpful
in grounding it a little bit

789
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,000
instead of just being one person
doing a whole bunch of science.

790
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,920
Yeah, you know, we got to meet
these other people.

791
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,320
Is there like a science thing
that happened or like one of the

792
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,800
big things like the staircase or
the boat and stuff like that?

793
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,360
Is there just one of your
favourites?

794
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,400
Like, what is your favorite one
that happened or you thought was

795
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,920
like a cool sciency thing thing,
I thought.

796
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,920
That the the staircase was a
cool sciency thing?

797
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:42,400
I think so.
I I struggle with dealing with

798
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,600
death in the afterlife and
thinking about it.

799
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:49,320
Death scares me very much.
And so I keep thinking about

800
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,960
Will's brain.
Yeah, and that scares the shit

801
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,640
out of me because what state of
being is he in?

802
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,960
And now that's it.
I.

803
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:01,440
Mean.
Yeah.

804
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,240
It's like, I think the thing
that hit me with that

805
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,000
particularly is when he's
talking to Saul in the bed now,

806
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,920
where he has to answer those
questions of like, yes, for

807
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,960
sure.
I want to do this is that like

808
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,000
Saul is like trying to give him
scenarios of like, what if they

809
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,920
do get you and then they
reanimate you or whatever?

810
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,960
And he's like, OK then I'm then
I am what I am.

811
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,000
He's like, what if you're a pet?
He's like, then I am what I am.

812
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:29,440
What if you don't make it there?
He's like, I'm dead anyway and

813
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,200
it but like, the thought of the
possibility of any of those

814
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:37,640
happening is like, oh shit.
But now he's just there.

815
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:42,920
He's out there and like the the
concept of isolation that the

816
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:48,440
show does, even though it's on
such a huge scale, is very kudos

817
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,000
to them for doing that.
And that particular one is

818
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,360
terrifying, yeah.
It really scares me.

819
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:58,200
And I, you know, in my mind, I
guess the cryogenic freezing at

820
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,680
some point will just run out
maybe, and then he'll die.

821
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,360
Maybe.
He's already dead, right is.

822
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,040
He though he's frozen in a state
of not dead and not alive well.

823
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,120
I think Jen had said it's like
not another like 5 million years

824
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,160
or something like that before.
He's like out of the solar

825
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:15,680
system.
It's like goodbye.

826
00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:21,760
No the the sciency thing.
We're scientists.

827
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,720
We know.
We are Twice's version of

828
00:44:25,720 --> 00:44:27,920
scientists.
We are K pop scientists.

829
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:35,040
That I I Can't Dance, that I
really liked is the Sofon thing

830
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,720
in that they were able to
completely stop science and the

831
00:44:39,720 --> 00:44:44,320
progression of it, and so much
so that for 60 years scientists

832
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,000
just thought, this isn't
working, this isn't working.

833
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,240
Like science is broken.
How am I going to know why

834
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,800
outside force doing it?
That is terrifying.

835
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:57,600
Because it's like if somebody
here thought of that, what if

836
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,800
somebody out there thought of
the same thing or worse and it's

837
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,240
like happening now.
Maybe that's why we don't have

838
00:45:04,240 --> 00:45:07,080
flying cars by this time.
I don't know.

839
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:08,680
Thanks for nothing.
It's.

840
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:09,800
Scary.
Yeah.

841
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:10,920
No, it is really.
Scary.

842
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,600
And the fact that it's not even,
I mean, it even goes beyond

843
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,880
that, right?
They can put themselves in our

844
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,600
minds, they can make us see
things, They can make the stars

845
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,240
blink.
They just have total control

846
00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:25,080
over us.
And it's 1984, dystopian because

847
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:26,720
they're watching us all the
time.

848
00:45:27,240 --> 00:45:30,600
The only thing they can't see
inside is our thoughts our.

849
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,920
Brains, wall facers, that's
where it all comes in, which is

850
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,440
such an interesting and so cool
concept.

851
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,000
There's just like, even if like,
you're not jiving with the show,

852
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,200
which I feel like it's going to
be hit or miss for a lot of

853
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:45,000
people.
Like, I I first five episodes,

854
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,120
I'm like, this is amazing.
Didn't struggle, but I was just

855
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,160
like, OK, OK, OK, OK for the
other ones.

856
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:55,800
But the concepts of all of them
are so intriguing to think

857
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,200
about, especially the wall
facers.

858
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,680
It's like, OK, they can know
everything, They're everywhere,

859
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:05,600
but they can't read your mind.
So we're going to pick people

860
00:46:05,720 --> 00:46:08,680
that are never going to tell
anybody what they're planning.

861
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,560
That's terrifying and really
cool at the same time.

862
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:16,800
I want an entire episode of Saul
just thinking about stuff, just

863
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,320
sitting.
In that meditation room, just.

864
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,360
Just like.
Snickering to himself, I got the

865
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:29,680
best plan.
OK, so wrapping it up, I hope we

866
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,520
get another season.
From what I've read and from

867
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:38,320
what I have heard, the next two
books are insane and there's so

868
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,520
much more that happens in them.
First book was more like a

869
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,360
prologue leading up to it.
So there's some things that I've

870
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:44,960
already read I'm very excited to
see.

871
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,560
I hope it gets a second season.
Go watch it if you haven't.

872
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,800
Watched it.
I don't necessarily think that

873
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,400
this is for everyone and I think
that you should go into it with

874
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,840
an open mind and not expecting,
you know, the big.

875
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,920
The star.
Wars thing, right?

876
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,200
I think that if you really take
it in and think about it, you

877
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,000
can appreciate it more, which is
what I did.

878
00:47:07,240 --> 00:47:11,480
And I really am interested in
knowing what happens next

879
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:16,040
because there's this period of
400 years and in in I'm just

880
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,040
going, is there going to be a
time jump?

881
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,960
Are we ever going to see them
come or is it always just going

882
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,120
to be this lead up of everyone
panicking?

883
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,760
It's.
Like a race of a race to find

884
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,120
out.
Like, do we escape?

885
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,880
Do we fight?
How do we prevent it when we

886
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,680
can't even advance our own
technology?

887
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,920
Like, yeah, it's crazy you.
Know and the fact that they

888
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:40,840
killed two of the Oxford Five,
it makes me feel like, well, we

889
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,080
might not win this one.
Might not.

890
00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:45,040
I guess.
We'll see.

891
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,800
We're all bugs.
But you know what?

892
00:47:47,720 --> 00:47:51,560
Bugs can survive anything.
They're always.

893
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,600
Beetles.
Mosquitoes.

894
00:47:53,720 --> 00:47:55,840
Why dung beetles the 1st?
One, they're all poop.

895
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,640
OK, everybody.
'S like EW poop and they're like

896
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,840
watch this, we could be poop
rollers.

897
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,400
Like we are.
In the grand scheme of things,

898
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,520
you're right.
You're you're right.

899
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:13,200
So if I had to rate it, I get a
four, four to five visually

900
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:17,800
great stylish sciency as hell.
Made me believe that all of

901
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,560
these people were geniuses and
we didn't get the whole in

902
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:21,960
English.
Please, I hate that.

903
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,160
I hate that.
When somebody's supposed to be

904
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:25,920
smart, it just completely takes
me out of it.

905
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:31,360
And we didn't get that once.
So that's kudos to that great

906
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,000
adaptation.
I liked it 5.

907
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,480
Four out of five out of five,
Four out of five out.

908
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,160
Of five?
Yeah, that's physics.

909
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:45,120
I think for me, I initially upon
finishing it I think was going

910
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:49,800
to give it a 2 1/2, but after
thinking about it and talking

911
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,600
about it, I'm going to give it a
solid 30.

912
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:52,480
Nice.
OK.

913
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,880
Yeah, that's.
I was really worried because we

914
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,680
have our different likes, right?
And it's like I'm very I can sit

915
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,120
with something that is like kind
of boring or whatever.

916
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,040
Not to say you wouldn't, but
it's just like what we usually

917
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,080
read and stuff like that.
And like when I was reading the

918
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,640
book I was like, oh man, I'm
really interested to see what

919
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,200
he's going to think of this.
And I was, I was happy that you

920
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,920
open mind and you enjoyed it for
the most part.

921
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,520
Well.
It's interesting because we had

922
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,880
watched the first two episodes
separately.

923
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,120
You were away at a conference
and I was home.

924
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,280
And so we we did talk about it.
And what was so interesting is

925
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,600
that I felt like these these
first two episodes, they were

926
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,440
there was a slow build up there,
but I always wanted to watch the

927
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,040
next one.
And so that's the thing while I

928
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,040
was like kind of like wishing it
was going a little faster, I

929
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,560
always wanted to know what
happened next.

930
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:42,240
Right.
Right.

931
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:47,720
And so I think that is something
that is a great thing about the

932
00:49:47,720 --> 00:49:50,360
series, is that it keeps making
you want to watch it.

933
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,000
Yeah.
So let us know what you thought.

934
00:49:53,240 --> 00:49:55,400
Yeah, let us know your favorite
thing, Your least favorite

935
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,080
thing.
What confused you the most?

936
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,160
Do.
You Are you able to explain the

937
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,480
science better to us than we
have today?

938
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,160
Please.
Do hey and also our mailbox is

939
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,160
always open, so if you want to
write something a little longer

940
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:11,640
or just like e-mail ABO
nibblesgmail.com that's always

941
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,160
open.
Well, hope to hear from your

942
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:14,960
friends.
All right.

943
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:16,880
So till next time.
Till next time.

944
00:50:17,240 --> 00:50:17,840
Goodbye.
Bye.