Sept. 28, 2024

'Agatha All Along' Episode 3 Review

'Agatha All Along' Episode 3 Review
A Bite Of: Movies & TV
'Agatha All Along' Episode 3 Review

Grab a glass of un-poisoned wine because we’re talking 'Agatha All Along' episode 3 'Through Many Miles of Tricks and Trials'!

On the menu: the life and times of Sharon Davis, the coven’s hallucinations, the return of Mephisto, Teen’s sigil, what did Agatha do to her child?! & more!

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It's Derek, and that's Noah.
Oh no.

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And you're listening to a bite
of.

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Oh, that's so sad.
It's not sad, it's just Sharon.

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She's just trying to tell
everyone now.

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We will never forget her name in
death.

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Oh my God.
Spoilers.

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Jeez Louise, coming out the
gate's hot with the spoilers,

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yes.
I don't know what mulberries

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taste like, so I would have been
just out of luck.

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Same with Sharon.
I will say that a little over a

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year ago I made us Mulberry
muffins, but it's fine.

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So on this episode of A Bite of
we're on episode 3 of Agatha All

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Along.
We're tracking along.

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We're on the Witches Rd.
This is the first episode fully

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in the Witches Rd.
Very excited to talk about this.

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I feel like we are getting in
that spooky season.

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I'm excited Patreon, we have
that, like the show, support the

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show, keep the lights and mics
on.

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Feed your gay creators us.
Discord, we do have an Agatha

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Coven Discord channel, so all
the spoiler free chat have fun.

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That thing's been popping off.
It's been popping off.

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Also follow us on socials.
You know all of the social media

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platforms, you'll see us there,
you'll see reels and fun things

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that we make and just our normal
lives.

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All of that great stuff.
Everybody knows how this works.

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OK, Make sure you leave a
review, do some comments, leave

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stars, all of that.
I just like, you know, you guys

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know what to do.
They're they don't even, they're

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not even listening to this
because they hit Fast forward,

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Fast forward, Fast forward.
But if you're new here, hi,

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welcome to all of those things
because you're amazing and

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beautiful.
All right, witches, spoiler

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alert ahead.
We do not want your cauldron to

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burn your potions.
Potions.

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Right, let us officially take a
bite of Agatha All Along,

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Episode 3, Through many miles of
tricks and trials directed by

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Rachel Goldberg and written by
Cameron Squires, Jack Schaefer

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and Jason Rostovsky, the coven
clutches their cardigans as

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their first trial captures them
in a cavernous mansion on a

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Cape.
The witches waste no time for

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wine, but alas, it is a perilous
poison.

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Swelling and yelling and
hallucinations try to trick

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them.
They must work together to ward

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off the effects of the terrible
tincture while time of three 10s

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ticks.
Whoa, yay, The word play is.

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Back.
Word play is back.

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I love it.
Good job, Ticcher.

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That's always what I love.
That word.

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I don't know why.
For the longest time I didn't

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know what it meant anyway.
It's a good word.

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Let me tell you something.
Thesaurus.

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Love her synonyms.
Let's go, I said.

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What's another word for poison?
They said tincture, I said.

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You're right.
And then you have to look for

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other T words.
Exactly.

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Terrible tincture.
Well, time of three 10s.

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Love it.
OK, so what'd you think?

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What'd you think of episode 3 of
Agatha All Along?

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We are three 1/4 of the way
through the I think Limited

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series.
Except I would say except for

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the last moment, this was FUN
fun.

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I had a great time.
I thought the costuming was

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hilarious, the practical makeup
was fantastic.

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Seeing them all work together
for the first time.

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The covens coming together,
people, it was just 10 out of

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10, right?
Yeah.

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I mean, yeah.
I mean, that's what you think

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you're asking me.
This is your.

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Thought I'm saying like, don't
you agree?

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Yeah, I agree.
I liked it a lot.

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I think it was a good first
introduction to the trials and

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seeing what it's going to be
about.

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Obviously, we have lots to say
about this.

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I would say, Jen, more focused
trial and what we can expect

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from from the road to the
journey ahead.

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I really liked it.
They're not just started off

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with a critique, but my only
critique is, and this is a

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Marvel show, right?
And part of our job, but then in

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quotes is to look at like the
little things and kind of put

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them together and everything.
And as viewers, they do that

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too.
I, there's a lot of mystery.

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There's a lot.
And like everybody has mystery.

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So it, it's just a lot, it's a
lot of mystery.

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So it's like, OK, we're three
episodes and I know we have like

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6 episodes left, but they do go
by pretty fast.

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And it's a lot of mystery to get
through.

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So I'm curious to see how the
balance continues to go of like

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giving us some of those answers
while still holding some of that

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mystery.
Or is it going to be like

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flashback episode and then we
get all the the stuff right?

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Because Agatha threw this whole
thing and I have a lot of

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thoughts about her in this
episode is she's just holding

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everything close to her chest.
It's not even like us as viewers

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know anything.
We know nothing.

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So it is interesting to see the
main character.

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We know nothing about her and
then everybody else still we

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don't know anything about them.
I'm not complaining about it.

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I'm just cautiously like, OK,
how much more mystery?

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Because this episode just like
more, more mystery, right?

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So I'm balance.
I mean, I, I think that this

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episode had a job to do.
I think not only was it the

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first trial, but it had a sort
of tell us the rules of

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everything, right?
And I feel like our first couple

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of minutes are learning those
rules, right?

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The first one that we know is
like, now we know, OK, you can't

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step off the road, right,
because Missus Hart almost

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sinks.
But we also learn that because

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they're saying to Agatha, like
what happens down here?

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And she tells them it's the
trials.

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And basically it'll be a trial
for each of them.

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And so, OK, good, we got that.
Now we know.

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And this was Jennifer's trial
pretty much, right, the trial

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for the potion witch.
And so now we also took this

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episode to learn, I mean, if we
can even call it learning, but

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see a glimpse of what they've
all been through.

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And so now everyone's little
back story has been set up and

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we're learning from here on out.
Right, right.

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And I it's like dipping our toes
into like, this is like some of

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the stuff.
But again, it was like

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hallucinations, right?
And it was so quick that it's

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like, OK, now I have questions
like, what is the curse?

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Like?
Who were those women that Lilia

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saw?
What are the like?

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It's just like adds more to it,
which again, not complaining.

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That's the point, baby.
Right.

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That's the point.
But it's like, oh, this is a lot

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of mystery that they're like
stuffing into this.

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And I'm kind of curious, is it
just because like, again, it's a

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Marvel show, but it's like
there's 9 episodes and in a

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normal season, I say normal,
like when we used to have 16 or

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22 episodes, maybe it wouldn't
have been so compressed.

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But because we have two
compressed episodes, it just

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seems like a lot of mystery.
But anyway, I want to like move

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past that because I, I don't
want to say it's a huge

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criticism.
It's just something that I'm

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noticing.
Is it because the mysteries just

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drive you bonkers?
Yes, I'm going insane.

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Exactly.
One of the Speaking of

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mysteries, one of the things
that we do kind of get an answer

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to Ish is before they get to
their first trial and

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everybody's figuring everything
out and Missus Hart is just like

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this is a kidnapping, which MVP
of this episode, amazing.

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Deborah Jo Rob chef's kiss,
amazing.

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But Lilia or the the rest of the
witches see that there is a

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sigil, which now we know that's
what it's called on teen.

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So they're not able to say their
name or anything about them to

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which kind, which is interesting
because Sharon was there.

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And if we're going to go on the
theory of her not being a witch

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so far, right, why didn't she
say anything?

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OK, I will say she wasn't.
She was, I looked out for it the

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second time we watched it.
I swear to God, if you watch it

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just just before Agatha goes to
tell everybody like, This is why

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you're here, that's when she
disappears.

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But like even when he says the
name, because it does go to the

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witches like twice, you can see
her arm still in the shot.

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And I don't know if that was a
mistake, you know, but you can

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tell that she's there because
initially when I first watched

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it, I was like, oh, she's not
there.

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Like it explains like why she
walked away, right?

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But she was there.
So I'm like, interesting.

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Like she just let all of these
people be like, well, I heard

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the name.
And so that made me think like,

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OK, if a pedestrian could hear
his his name or anything about

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him, would they then be sigiled
to all of witches?

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Like they couldn't telephone the
name.

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So I'm just curious, right?
Like that's what I was thinking.

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Oh, they magically made her go
off the screen, but she was

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there.
So I'm just like, I'll, I'll put

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that little scene in this part
when we're talking about it.

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Show us her arm.
Yeah, I mean, she was there.

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I went along with the fact that
she was wandering off and I'm

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like, OK, because I had thought
the same thing.

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I was like, too bad Sharon
wasn't there because she could

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have said, oh, his name is
right, whatever.

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But then it would.
Have been squiggled.

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Squiggled indeed.
I did do a little research on

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what a sigil is and so I mean
this is according to Wikipedia,

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but a sigil is a type of symbol
used in magic.

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The term usually refers to a
pictorial signature of a spirit,

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such as an Angel, demon, or
deity.

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In modern usage, especially in
the context of chaos magic,

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chaos magic, a sigil refers to a
symbolic representation of the

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practitioner's desired outcome.
So I did a little more research

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and I got to like a sort of
witchy website.

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And basically what you do is you
say your intention, and then you

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kind of boil it down to like the
smallest thing.

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And then when you write it, you
remove all the vowels, and then

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you connect the rest everything
to consonants together.

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And then that's what makes the
pattern.

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Yeah, I didn't know that.
Yeah, it was really cool.

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So of course I was staring at
the picture it it looks like

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either AW or an M, but obviously
that wouldn't be what the spell

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is.
But it just looks like either

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Wanda or Maximo Maximoff.
Oh, that too.

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Also, if it's AW, Wiccan, but
also his name is Billy, so if it

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is Wiccan, so I yeah, that's
really interesting.

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On that same note, we will get
into the Mephisto of it all.

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Finally vindicated years later,
Mephisto was mentioned.

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Right.
And this like officially cements

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that Mephisto exists.
And that's important.

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I think that's important, Yeah.
I mean, let's just talk about

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Mephisto now, right?
I'm sure, like, a lot of people

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might have clicked on this to be
like, what are they going to say

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about Mephisto?
Let's get out of here, right?

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So when Jen tells Teen Mephisto,
right, she's like Agatha sold

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her son for the dark hold.
She she's like saying rumor.

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She does seem a little, I don't
want to say gossipy, but kind of

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right.
It's not with bad intentions

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because it's Agatha, right?
But also what is her goal here?

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Maybe she's trying to look out
for him.

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Maybe she's trying to figure
things out because there's a

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mystery behind him.
But with Mephisto being

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mentioned, I did go finally, I
felt this weight just be lifted

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off of my shoulders because both
of us were theorizing Mephisto.

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And then Loki didn't help with
the imagery of the devil and all

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of that.
So finally, right.

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It's like we know he does exist.
There's been rumors that he

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might be in Iron Heart.
So yeah, we we have a, we have a

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little bit of an answer that
Mephisto exists in here.

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He's possibly here.
What did you how did you feel

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about Mephisto being mentioned?
Do you think he's actually going

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to play a part in Agatha or is
it red herring?

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So I think in watching years of
these Marvel series now, I don't

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get my hopes up for anything.
And so we always bring it up.

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It's being bonered, right?
We're going to get it.

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It just feels like we're going
to get fistoed, you know?

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So I don't want that.
I think that I I'm just going to

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play it cool.
We are future retroactively

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being demonetized.
I didn't.

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I mean you can take what you
want from my words.

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I said what I said.
Say it again.

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Fistoed.
Why?

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Why did you put an F?
Because it's Ma Fisto.

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But not right and I spelling
here no I think.

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Fistoed maybe gives a certain
connotation like Bonard.

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You know what I'm saying?
All right.

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Got it.
So I don't think he'll be here.

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Yeah.
How?

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About you.
I don't I and I, and it's not

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because I don't want Mephisto to
be here, but I know I've learned

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lessons from Wanda Vision,
right?

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I think all of us collectively
need to learn lessons from Wanda

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Vision.
That's life, right?

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And I just don't think that we
need Mephisto for this story.

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Like maybe later on, but same
thing with Wanda Vision.

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I don't, I feel like Wanda
Vision in the end, for what it

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was didn't need Mephisto and we
didn't get it right.

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So I don't know, it's like we
don't need it.

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And it does sort of feel like in
these Marvel series, they don't

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do big, big bads, you know, so
like to bring a big, big bad,

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that would be, I mean, that
would be bad ass, but it feels

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like they don't do that.
Yeah, well, 'cause most of the

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time it's like a one and done,
and occasionally you'll get ones

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that do show up or turn into
different things or become

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Internet cessations like Baron
Zemo.

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But that is my worry.
Like once they introduce

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somebody like that, because it
is an entity in a way, like you

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can banish or get rid of them,
but like, not really.

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So what is that going to look
like when Mephisto is finally

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introduced?
I will say though, before we get

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off of being fistoed in this
particular part in the comics.

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So when Billy and Tommy
disappeared in the comics House

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of M, everything like that,
Mephisto actually reclaimed

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their souls.
And then Wanda goes and like

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banishes all that stuff and they
get reborn.

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That's how that's why Billy
Kaplan is Billy Kaplan.

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He's the son of Jeff and Rebecca
Kaplan.

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He was reborn into this other
person.

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It's not until they become a
young Avenger and everything and

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grow up and meet Scarlet Witch
that then it becomes apparent,

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Oh, you are my son and all of
that stuff.

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Beautiful.
I think there's a question there

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to be had of like, could this is
a big if, right?

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This is the big theory that I'll
say for this episode with Wiccan

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or Billy or Nicholas Scratch is
he says in this episode when

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he's talking to one of the
witches, I keep Alice Alice.

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I keep wanting to say their
actual names and I'm like that's

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not their name.
So when he's talking to Alice,

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she says that she got the tattoo
when she was 13 because her

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mother wanted to protect her and
everything.

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And he says that happened to me
too.

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That was three years ago cuz
he's 16 at the current time of

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the show from what he has said.
So 3 years ago there was an

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accident, a near death accident
in Westview.

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We seen that in the credits.
There's a newspaper clipping.

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Is it possible this is what I'm
just going to say that is this

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the body of Agatha's kid,
Nicholas Scratch, but Billy

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inside of it.
So then that would connect

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Agatha and Wanda a little more.
I know that sounds really far

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out there.
That's like my craziest theory,

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but like the soul, like near
death happened.

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Nicholas Scratch died in a way,
and then Billy went in there.

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But that's why they don't have
any memories.

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I don't know.
I'm just like trying to put

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these pieces together and see
how they can connect and that

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seems wild.
You can't force puzzle pieces to

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come together.
No, no, you can't.

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I mean, that's my theory.
But you know, why not throw it

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out there?
Let's put it in the universe.

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See what happens at.
This point I can say anything

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and hopefully at the end I could
be like.

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I think Lilia is his mother.
No, no, that's a lie I do want.

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So let's take a step back.
What did you think of the

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setting of this trial?
Yo, Derek said.

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OK, crazy person.
Let's.

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Well, I think that that's enough
Mephisto for this episode.

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All right, I'll stop fisting.
Some of us just do a fun play on

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words, others do not.
Moving on, the setting, the

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setting I liked a lot, right?
It's the Big Little Lies, it's

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the Desperate Housewives, it's
Jennifer Kao.

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It's like her worst nightmare.
It's her clientele, right?

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And so like you were saying
earlier, it does seem like all

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of them are going to go through
the trials, right?

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Because they're the coven, but
each one is going to be more

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particular that person's trial.
Because if I mean, right when

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they got there, it was just
like, oh, this is like straight

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out of your catalogue.
Jen Agatha clocked it right

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away.
So it was really interesting to

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see this be Jen's episode, but
also it focused on Sharon a lot.

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It was it was an interesting
balance between the two.

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I loved it.
Yeah, I, I mean it, it was cool

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because it's almost like a test
of each of their powers, right?

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And them coming into their true
power, whether or not they

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technically have the magic
anymore, you know, And so it is

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sort of that believe in
yourself, you can do it moment.

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And I love this setting as well.
I think it was so, so different,

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you know, 'cause we were in, we
were in Westview, which is like

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suburbia.
And then we're down on the

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Witches Rd. which is creepy and
dark, and then we're blasted

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into the seaside.
Grace and Frankie, you know,

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ladies who lunch moment.
Yeah, it very much looked like,

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you know, I kept saying like,
oh, it's like Grace and Frankie.

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And it's like, well, that's not
really like the vibe they're

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trying to go for.
But it looked, it felt like it.

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But I think it's just like women
that drink wine and stuff

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happens, yes.
Exactly.

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And also Teen said something
like, oh, it's like second

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chance at love, which is Grace
and Frankie.

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Which is Desperate Housewives,
which is all.

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All of them, yeah.
So.

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We got what they were doing with
this one for sure.

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I really liked it.
And then the added thing of like

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them being underwater, salt
water and everything.

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That's the whole thing with
witches and on consecrated

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ground and salt and all of that.
So there's a bunch of layers to

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that.
But I am very like, I feel like

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a lot of the conversation,
rightfully so, is on Agatha.

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It is on Sharon and stuff.
But I think like Jen has a lot

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going on in this episode and
it's bizarre, like if we just

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think about it, right, So when
they all do get the the Ale

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wives revenge and they all get
poisoned, they see

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hallucinations and that's when
we start seeing some of their

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pasts and everything.
Is it fully true?

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I don't know.
We just have to believe it.

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But the fact that Jen is seeing
this doctor clearly not of this

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time, I would say like a snake
oil salesperson's time.

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Why?
Like what situation would she be

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in with medicine because she is
a woman of color.

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What situation would she be in
with that person?

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And, you know, somebody that's
saying you're an inconvenience

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and you're useless and now, you
know, trying to kill her, which

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is crazy.
But like, I'm really curious on

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what that is because she says
that he took my magic.

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Whoever bound her, was it this
person or somebody else with a

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name with an M?
That guy will be Mephisto, that

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actor.
Yeah, I the the thing that I'm

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piercing together.
So this is my fake story that I

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made-up from this is that at at
one point in time, Jen was

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working with this man in that
very much tincture way of

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creating like, you know,
Coca-Cola.

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And they're like, it's medicine.
And they were working together.

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And then he was taking advantage
of her and take.

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And then he wanted her power, so
he did something to her.

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To steal her magic and the But
the inconvenient woman thing,

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That's interesting.
Why is she inconvenient?

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Right.
Yeah, there's a lot of mystery

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behind that.
And I feel like, yeah, I mean,

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I'm excited kind of not just
because he was very terrifying

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and I didn't like how he treated
her, but I'm really curious to

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find out more.
And that's the thing with these

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witches, right, is that they're
older than they seem.

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And I I forgot about that.
But I like this reminder,

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especially seeing them like we
have.

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We see Lilia when she's much
younger, who I'm assuming is

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Lilia.
Like she sees herself and then

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she sees who I'm assuming is the
mother and then this figure of

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like death.
So it might have been the multi

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generation or something, but you
can tell she's definitely older.

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Right, we, we learned that and
when they first meet her, right,

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that she's hundreds and hundreds
of years old.

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And it was sad, though, that
moment after she has her

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hallucination because it's a
reminder of how long, how much

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longer she has lived than
everyone else that was important

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in her life.
And what's really interesting

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about that, and this leads back
into Agatha, because we have so

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many questions about her in this
episode, is she's like, they're

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dead.
They're all dead.

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I think she does she say it in
Latin?

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I believe.
I think is she I?

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Think so I could I very much
could be wrong.

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Yeah, and, and Agatha, instead
of being like, what are you

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talking about?
Are you're going crazy?

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She's she's like, OK, all right.
Like there is that very

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motherly, yeah.
There's something that's yes,

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and I think that's what makes
Agatha, I think throughout these

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years prior to her being in the
MCU, which makes her very

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interesting because she is a
complicated character.

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She's a nanny, she's a mentor,
she's a big bad.

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She's not.
She's helps and she has all

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these layers.
I think we and the MCU are still

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trying to put her in a place,
right?

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And like trying to figure her
out.

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And I think with seeing this, it
does seem like she does have

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this long history, at least with
some of these members.

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And it seems like the most with
Rio and Lilia out of everybody.

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So I'm curious, I'm curious to
see like what that is.

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And her vision made me think of
the triple head goddess, the the

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triple goddess, you know, you
have the the the maid and the

419
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,560
mother and the Crone.
And we saw these three different

420
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,920
figures and that's who's on her
well, pendant her her brooch.

421
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:47,240
So I don't know, it's just like
interesting layers going on.

422
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:48,640
Yes.
It's like threes.

423
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,120
And like she saw the things
that's like on her Locket and

424
00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:52,400
like there's a hair in the
Locket.

425
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,320
There's Joe Locke.
He's in the show.

426
00:22:55,120 --> 00:22:57,160
Yeah, it's his hair.
Hair is a rabbit.

427
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,400
Rabbit is Senor Scratchy
Scratch.

428
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,960
Oh my God.
We solved it.

429
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,600
We solved it this.
Is again, why I'm just like,

430
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,040
there's so much mystery in the
show and I just feel like my

431
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,360
brain is loud.
I think this early on though,

432
00:23:10,360 --> 00:23:13,440
I'm loving that, right?
I'm personally liking it because

433
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,440
it's setting up each of their
little mysteries so that as the

434
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,160
episodes go on, we can go, oh,
that's what that was.

435
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:23,160
Because I do think with maybe
not Agatha, but the rest of

436
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,120
them, they are going to fill in
these gaps right for us, right

437
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,680
as we all go down the road
together.

438
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:34,400
Let's so let's let's go over
their their the LL wise revenge

439
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,880
makes them blow up, right.
I can't remember who said it,

440
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,960
but I did see online.
It was like a convention of

441
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:44,520
Jennifer Coolidge's totally.
And I was like hilarious.

442
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,200
It was so much fun, like the
fact that they did all this

443
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,480
practical magic, all of this
practical.

444
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,000
Oh my God, it's practical Magic
season, Yeah.

445
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,960
All of these practical effects
for this gag is amazing.

446
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,800
And I think that's like why
people are drawn to this type of

447
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,760
thing because it's like they
will go that extra mile.

448
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,720
Jack Shaffer and team will go
that extra mile to do that

449
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,520
because it's a lot of fun.
And who doesn't want to see

450
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,840
Deborah Jo Rupp try to say like,
I don't know any of these things

451
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,400
that you're saying while just
blown?

452
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:19,000
Yes, I do love all of the behind
the scenes photos of them seeing

453
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,560
each other in the makeup and
just like laughing hysterically.

454
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,480
I'm very much looking forward to
the making of Agatha all along.

455
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:28,200
That's going to be so much.
Fun.

456
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,480
That'll be really fun.
I of course I have to put this

457
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,280
in there.
Their faces did give me the

458
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,720
feeling of the Twilight Zone
episode.

459
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,280
The masks.
Oh yeah.

460
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:42,840
So, and especially the way that
Zashir Zamata Jennifer looks in

461
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,680
the mirror and touches her face,
that's what they do in that

462
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,000
episode when all their faces
have transformed, right?

463
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,160
So, you know, I always like to
bring out my little Twilight

464
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,200
Zone when I can.
I would love to know if the

465
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,760
makeup artist was just like,
yeah, I want to make them kind

466
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,800
of look like this.
I mean, obviously it looks like

467
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:02,200
exaggerated, like plastic
surgery, but it does look like

468
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,760
that.
Something else to bring up in

469
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,520
this scene in particular, 'cause
this is, I think the first time

470
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:11,440
it happens in the episode is
Lilia is saying bizarre things.

471
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,000
Yes.
So in this particular one, she

472
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,360
just says something like, I love
all you guys, Yeah.

473
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,960
She says yeah, She says I love
you.

474
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,280
Guys, I love you guys.
Well, she says.

475
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,120
And they're all like what?
She's like, what?

476
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:24,920
They just glance right over her.
Yeah.

477
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,160
And then she does say the thing
of try to save Agatha when

478
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,560
they're looking at the at the
products in the bathroom.

479
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,600
It's interesting.
And Agatha's like, OK, I like

480
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,400
that plan.
That's great.

481
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,720
But I, you know, you had said,
is she having a vision?

482
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,960
And that makes so much sense.
And to me, what I'm thinking is

483
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:48,160
that she's seeing some sort of
final moment, you know, And in

484
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,680
my mind, she's she's dying.
And she's saying, I love all you

485
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:53,840
guys.
You know, this is at the end of

486
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,480
their journey.
They've grown so much closer

487
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:56,680
together.
They've worked together.

488
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,800
And then she says, But you have
to save Agatha.

489
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,680
Patti Lu Pone cannot die in this
series because we'll riot.

490
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,640
I am, I am terrified, right?
I'm, I'm terrified to see.

491
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,200
I hope all of these people make
it out.

492
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,640
But after this episode and what
happened to Sharon, I don't

493
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,520
know.
Yeah, might not happen.

494
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,880
Yeah, but it is interesting.
So I think we need to be a

495
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:21,400
little more open eared with with
her because she says it so

496
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,440
quickly.
We had to rewind it and I was

497
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,480
like, what did she say?
And she's not doing the full

498
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,520
convulsion thing.
And they're also not reacting

499
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,720
like big to it.
So yeah, we definitely have to.

500
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,040
We have to keep an eye on that,
yeah.

501
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,800
When you're when the clock is
counting down and you're dying

502
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,440
from poison, you don't have time
to think about why that Lady

503
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:41,640
said that thing.
Yeah.

504
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,000
That's why I was like, OK, cool,
yes, let's do that.

505
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,640
But like, let's do what we're
doing.

506
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,320
So all of their visions, right?
So we had we had Jen, she saw

507
00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:52,280
the doctor that was trying to
kill her.

508
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:57,440
We had Alice who saw her mother,
which she said that her, her

509
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,880
grandmother had died 1000 miles
away and she saw her.

510
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,160
We know there's there's a curse
on her family or that's what her

511
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,840
mother has said.
And that's why she has the Tech

512
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,040
2.
That's interesting.

513
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:13,240
Is the curse like like an actual
curse, like a demon or something

514
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,800
like that?
Or is it more like alcohol or

515
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,800
drugs or something like that?
Who knows?

516
00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:22,360
And then who else do we have?
We have Lilia, who saw, I'm

517
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,440
assuming herself, her mother and
her grandmother.

518
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,000
And then we have Agatha.
This one's interesting.

519
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:33,280
Talk about great performance.
She had to go from like joking

520
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,360
around, having all the stuff on
her face to not only the entire

521
00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:39,440
scene, the lighting change, but
then just like acting.

522
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,400
No terrifying.
I didn't know what we were going

523
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,200
to see in that cradle.
But the fact that it's the dark

524
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,000
hold and she reacted that way is
very interesting.

525
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:55,720
How did she get the dark hold?
So when we think of Agatha as a

526
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,880
character again, she holds so
much of what she's been through

527
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,520
from anyone, like you said
before, from them and from us,

528
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,440
the audience.
And so this decision that

529
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,480
Jennifer says she made to
basically trade her son for the

530
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,280
dark hold still haunts her every
day.

531
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:19,280
She lives with that guilt.
But what would bring someone to

532
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,200
make such a decision?
You know, it's, it's

533
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,360
interesting.
So the Agatha of it all in this

534
00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:29,120
episode, she was so weird.
She was so weird in this

535
00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:34,240
episode, she acted bizarre.
I'm thinking back to when Rio

536
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,440
first their first interaction,
their fight or when they first

537
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,640
met, I can't remember exactly,
but she said something like, do

538
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,400
you remember why you hate me?
That made me think of obviously

539
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:49,320
she did something to Agatha.
Did Rio sacrifice her son to get

540
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,640
the dark hold and then Agatha
got it from Rio.

541
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,680
That's a theory I have.
Did she actually sacrifice her

542
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,720
son because of the way that she
acts and how protective she is

543
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,720
of teen?
Because I don't think she knows

544
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,000
if teen is really.
She might think that Tina's

545
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,400
Nicholas scratch, which makes me
think it's a red herring and

546
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,000
he's completely different.
I don't know like is the hair in

547
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,400
the Locket from her son?
How old was the kid when it was

548
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,240
sacrificed because that?
Looked like a baby bassinet.

549
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,280
Well I'm saying the lock of hair
looked like an older child, so

550
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,560
unless I had a full head of
hair.

551
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,520
That's one that magical baby.
Yeah.

552
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,120
So this is my I'm going to
throw.

553
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,520
I think I might have said
something like this in our last

554
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:40,720
episode, but Teen knows so much.
He just knows what things are.

555
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,600
He has all the answers for
things.

556
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:49,240
I again think that maybe Teen is
the embodiment of the Darkhold.

557
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:51,360
Yeah, yeah.
That's.

558
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,400
Is that what I said?
The last episode I said

559
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,560
something like that.
That's something that I, well, I

560
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,840
think we both did, but that was
my two theories in the beginning

561
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:03,160
of like it's either Billy or
Nicholas Scratch or a human

562
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,640
version of the Dark Hole,
because that's what's currently

563
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,880
happening in the comics.
Because she just knows too much.

564
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,320
And the fact that when she
looked, instead of seeing a

565
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,360
baby, she saw a book.
I think he's a walking book.

566
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:16,840
Right.
But who's Boyce?

567
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,600
That's the question.
I mean, I don't think we can

568
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,800
believe anything.
Yeah, especially from him.

569
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,280
He does know a lot.
So you're saying it's more of

570
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,360
like he knows more or maybe
doesn't know more what's

571
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,360
happening, like kind of like
Wanda or he's like the old man

572
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,120
from Squid Game, like he that is
orchestrator of a lot of things

573
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,600
and he's just playing along.
Because it's weird.

574
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,480
Because he's with witches who
are hundreds of years old and he

575
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,880
knows answers to things.
He's explaining things to them,

576
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,320
yeah, which I think is
interesting.

577
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,320
It's very interesting.
I also big thing I big theory

578
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:54,000
that I think is now proving more
true for me personally is

579
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,320
Agatha's never been on the road
before.

580
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,160
She is not acting like somebody
that has been there before.

581
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,920
Yeah, why wouldn't she drink the
poison?

582
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,960
Well, and why is she acting like
she doesn't really know what's

583
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,200
happening?
Granted, the trials do change

584
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,080
with the coven, but she didn't
say anything about staying on

585
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,800
the road.
She only said that after it was

586
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,960
obvious because when she was
like rule #1 is stay on the

587
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,400
road, like don't stray from the
path.

588
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,880
And even Sharon was like, well,
duh, like I did that.

589
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,920
And then Alice even says it's
all in the song, it's in the

590
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,080
ballad, right?
So anybody who just knows the

591
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,280
lyrics to the ballad knows the
rules of the Witch's Road.

592
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,040
Right.
And she's just doing things.

593
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,800
She's acting.
She's kind of more observing

594
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,400
then leading, which she should
be leading right?

595
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,120
Somebody that has done this
before.

596
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:39,800
I think it's going to come into
question.

597
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,360
Either she has been on the road
before and she cheated, but she

598
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,400
does seem like somebody that
would cheat or she's never been

599
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,960
on the road before because even
I just keep going back to like

600
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,960
why the opening to the road
didn't happen.

601
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,880
Branded Agatha could have said
that because maybe she didn't

602
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,600
expect it to open, but she's
never been there before and it

603
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:05,120
only opened when true witches,
the Salem 7 actually came down

604
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,480
to that room and then it opened.
Maybe, maybe it's also something

605
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,760
like, so in this, when they're
finally brewing the potion, they

606
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,320
need to hold hands and have
like, the same intention.

607
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,840
And in that beginning moment,
she really didn't want to go

608
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,000
down the witch's road.
She just wanted someone to blast

609
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,320
her so she could steal their
powers.

610
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,960
And it wasn't until the Salem
Seven came that she finally had

611
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,280
the same intention of we need to
get out of here.

612
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,040
Yeah, right.
And that's why it opened.

613
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,680
Yeah, I think there's, yeah.
I think we're, we're close to

614
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,760
something like, I feel like it's
like a like a metal detector and

615
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,520
we're just like, yeah, yeah.
Like we're not ready to dig in

616
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,640
the sand yet, but almost.
We're getting close.

617
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,640
It I do love these early
episodes because like before it

618
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,280
gets too complicated, like, I
mean, the world is our oyster

619
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:49,640
here.
We can just theorize.

620
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,800
I need to know listeners,
viewers, if you're watching this

621
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,160
on YouTube or watching listening
to us, please let us know what

622
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,720
you think.
That is like one of the best

623
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,120
parts about this is just like,
what theories do you have?

624
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,600
It's so crazy.
We're all little marvel

625
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,040
scientists, so we have to throw
out our hypothesis and just see

626
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,240
which ones stick.
Do you have before we get to

627
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,040
kind of the end of this episode,
do you have a favorite moment

628
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:18,400
from this episode?
I think my favorite moment

629
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,960
actually was the Lilia
hallucination.

630
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,160
I just thought that Patti, I
mean, it's Patti Lupone.

631
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,640
She just did an incredible job
in that moment, and it was so

632
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,560
short and I just thought we got
to see a different dynamic of

633
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,600
Agatha.
So that just struck me.

634
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,040
That stayed with me.
It was so sad that it really

635
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,760
stayed with me.
Mine is similar where we got to

636
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,960
see a different side of Agatha
and it's when she goes to Jen

637
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,680
and she does the mentoring thing
because when Jen is second

638
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,560
guessing herself and she doesn't
have her magic and she can't

639
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,240
just wave her hands and make it
happen, she's panicking.

640
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,720
And granted, the time is
literally down to a minute, but

641
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,440
Agatha takes that moment to be
the leader who she should be and

642
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,600
mentors her.
She's like, they might be able

643
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,440
to take your magic, but they
can't take your knowledge.

644
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,080
And Jen's like, yeah, I got it
now.

645
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:14,840
You're right, they can't hair.
Speaking of hair, I can't

646
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:19,520
believe all of these witches and
teen did not think to take a

647
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,520
piece of Sharon's hair.
That's why it didn't work.

648
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,320
It didn't work because they
didn't take her hair, everybody

649
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,280
else's hair, like.
They're so selfish.

650
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,360
Man, it's so sad.
I don't think she's dead, even

651
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,000
though she looked really dead,
really dead.

652
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,600
But it was so unserious.
It was so unserious with Agatha

653
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,080
being like, who's Sharon?
And granted, that is Agatha, but

654
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,159
it just, I don't know.
I don't trust anything in the

655
00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:51,440
show this early on and.
I you know, you have to wonder,

656
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,400
like, are things that happen on
the Witch's Road final?

657
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,080
Right.
Is she just going to like, shoot

658
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,920
back up right?
Especially if you're a human,

659
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,760
you don't really have any
magical properties.

660
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,240
Like she shouldn't have been
there anyway.

661
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,240
I don't know.
We also Speaking of Sharon, we

662
00:35:05,240 --> 00:35:08,120
didn't talk about her vision or
supposed vision.

663
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,880
That was sad.
Yeah, and and it seems like when

664
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,120
she was like Wanda, like, what
did she say?

665
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,680
She said something about she.
Said let him breathe.

666
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:15,800
Let him breathe.
So it.

667
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,040
It does seem like that is what
she actually wanted to say at

668
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,520
that dinner in the first episode
of Wanda Vision, but she

669
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,640
couldn't.
And all she said was stop it.

670
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,840
Yeah.
But it was interesting.

671
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:30,040
We didn't see what she saw.
I don't know.

672
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,880
I don't trust things when it's
like you see everything else but

673
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,760
you don't see hers.
I mean, do you think she's a

674
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,240
liar?
Do you think she's playing games

675
00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:39,360
with the witches?
Or somebody else is playing

676
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,200
games via through her.
Is Rio using her as a puppet?

677
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,120
Could be, I don't know.
I mean, it's weird that Mister

678
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,160
Hart's dead that just like, came
out of.

679
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,080
Davis, Yeah.
Well, they call her Missus Hart,

680
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,360
so I'm going to keep saying it.
And then she dies.

681
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,800
It's interesting.
It's very interesting.

682
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,840
Wanda, you got a lot of blood on
your hands, baby.

683
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,760
Got a lot of blood in here.
So I think that's it.

684
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,640
Like that's all the thoughts I
have for this episode.

685
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,920
Obviously I have a million more,
but like, I don't want to keep

686
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:14,520
screaming at you guys in a very
docile tone, screaming.

687
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,360
But it's like, yeah, we got our
first child.

688
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,560
I'm so excited to see whose
trial is next.

689
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,520
What comes next?
Agatha's acting weird teen

690
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,000
mystery.
Still a Bruin.

691
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,760
When's Rio coming back?
I hope she comes back the next

692
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,280
episode.
I need more Aubrey.

693
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,320
Plaza.
I also need that part that they

694
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,720
keep showing where Agatha is,
like doing a bridge and crawling

695
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:36,280
around.
She's like, you're right, girl,

696
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,320
or whatever, she says.
And it's going towards teen and

697
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:45,320
he's like, oh, I'm so excited.
We still have so much, so much

698
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,440
forewarning.
So not forewarning, but we have

699
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,960
some exciting things coming up.
We have heart stopper season 3.

700
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,240
We will be dropping that episode
next week.

701
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:02,560
I can't wait.
And then Agatha episode 4.

702
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:06,160
So you're getting a double dose
of a bite of next Week, 2 bites,

703
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,640
double dose of Joe Locke.
That's true.

704
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,360
He he owns right now he.
Has he has a very high

705
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,960
shareholder that's taken in a
bite of right now.

706
00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:19,960
Yeah.
Oh, OK.

707
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,200
Let us know what you thought of
the episode of Our faces.

708
00:37:23,720 --> 00:37:26,360
I hope you have a wonderful
spooky season next time you just

709
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,240
see us.
It will be full on October.

710
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,960
Off with your hand.
I'm singing the music in my

711
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,880
head.
Dance till you dance.

712
00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:39,000
Till next time.
Bye.