'Agatha All Along' Episode 7 Review | Reveals & Readings Oh My!

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Hello and welcome to by Dove.
Just like Agatha would say, if

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you want a straight answer, ask
a straight lady.

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If you want a straight podcast,
this isn't the one for you.

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Get out of here, hit the road.
No, everybody's welcome.

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It's just if you're expecting a
straight take, you want.

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Hit the road.
I'm Noah and joined, as always

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my other coven mates.
A coven of two, if you will,

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Derek.
Life coven, Patna.

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I don't know.
Yeah, that's me.

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Hi.
Welcome.

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Agatha Episode 7.
It's the MCU that we've been

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waiting for.
It's finally here.

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They're giving us all the queer
content we can watch.

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They're killing everyone but.
Spoilers.

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Oh sorry, we didn't give the
spoiler warning yet.

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I apologize.
All right, before we get full on

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spoilers because this was quite
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place to cry or theorize for
this latest episode going to

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Discord, we have an Agatha
coven.

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People have been processing
their emotions.

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Yeah, there's a lot happening in
there.

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It's nice to be able to share
your feelings and find others

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who are feeling the same way as
you.

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Oh yeah, community.
That's what we're all about,

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right?
OK, spoilers ahead.

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If you have not seen Agatha, if
you don't know what the MCU is,

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if you don't know the witches,
it's going to be spoiled.

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Absolutely.
So let us officially take a bite

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of Agatha All Along Episode 7,
Death's Hand in Mine, written by

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Gia King and Cameron Squires and
directed by the one and only

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Jack Schaeffer.
Time may be ticking, but for

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Lilia it is an Everything
Everywhere all at once

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situation.
The Covent accepts Billy and

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finds themselves in a tower
where the point of the trial is

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quite deadly.
Lilia becomes empowered with a

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tarot deck in hand and learns to
let go.

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Oh.
God, all right, that's it.

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I mean.
I mean, that's, that's like

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poetry or something.
I do want to say I don't know if

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I said our names in the intro.
I don't know if you did either.

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My God, I feel just like Lily.
I'm slipping in and out.

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You were there, you did do it,
but in your it's not.

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I'm not there yet.
I'm Noah and this is Derek.

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I.
Just in case.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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OK, Now we're all cut up.
We're finally aligned in our

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path.
Our path weaves out of time.

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Oh my God.
OK, initial thoughts.

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Initial thoughts.
Go ahead.

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So my initial thoughts are that
this was the strongest episode

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of the season.
I, you know, I, I was after the

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last episode, I thought that was
going to be 1 where I felt like

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emotionally moved or like felt
enlightened of the story arc.

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And I didn't necessarily feel
that way.

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I almost not that I felt let let
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kind of happened and I was like,
OK, great.

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That explains what's going on
this episode.

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On the other hand, I mean, with
Patti Luppone at the forefront,

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leading the entire coven
throughout this particular

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episode, she's just a
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I mean, we've said it before, we
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the emotional resonance of this
episode is what is really

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affecting everyone.
Yeah, yeah, I, I mean, again,

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Patti Luppone, I feel like, you
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did Lilia get pretty much her
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possibly Agatha and Rio later
on, it's because it's Patti

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Luppone and she deserves it
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I'm going to say this right now.
We are championing for her to

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get an Emmy.
She she deserves an award for

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this performance.
It was beautiful.

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I think even from a technical
standpoint, every line in this

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show we've talked about is
important and it means

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something.
Case in point, this episode.

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But I feel like in this episode,
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is intentional.
I just felt like it was the, the

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shots of this were making us
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It was disorientating.
It was, you know, kind of wobbly

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and all over the place.
And I felt like she was feeling

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'cause when she would go back
into a scene, she'd kind of like

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have to center herself again.
And the way it was just going

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from scene to scene and time to
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Yeah, I think that in this
episode, there were a number of

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shots where, I mean, I literally
gay gasped at the at them,

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whether it was a reveal or just
the way it looked, the outfits,

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the outfits, seeing her as a
child again, it was just done so

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beautifully.
And just to again, not to go

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back, we're going to be talking
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But in thinking about this
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The one episode we can.
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And, and just thinking about
this episode and everything that

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Patti had to balance in Lilia's
story here, right?

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I mean, we're going centuries in
the past where intersplicing

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these moments that are maybe
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other.
And so it's so much to kind of

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realize, OK, well, where am I
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Who am I playing?
What do I know?

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Who have I spoken to?
And I think that they needed to

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have someone leading us on that
journey so that we knew exactly

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what was happening.
And I never felt confused once

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in this.
I was in for the ride the entire

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time.
This definitely was an

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improvement, I would say for the
4th episode because if we're

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we're thinking about like each
trial is like a witch's trial,

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right?
This one felt just different

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from the other ones.
And I can see why Joe Locke has

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said this is his favorite
episode.

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I believe a couple other people
that worked on it, like the

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costume designer, everything
they're like, this is my

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favorite episode and I can see
why this is like on par with

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like Lamentus for Loki or
episode 8 for wand division.

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This is just like up up there
and it it really rose this

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series in my rankings for just
favorite MCU things.

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And it's like it's so funny to
think about that of like look at

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what is like the best of the MCU
and it's like these things.

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It's not the huge big name
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While those are amazing, it's
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stories to have the MCU have
more life and just just to

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continue these.
Yeah, and also to expand what

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the MCU actually is, you know?
And has to offer.

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Absolutely.
And I feel like this entire trip

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during with With Magic has been
really eye opening as far as

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what it means to be a Marvel
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And so it's exciting to see that
it's doing so well and people

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are really liking it.
Also, just to comment on one

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thing you said about like how it
compares to Episode 4, I feel

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like sometimes in these Marvel
series, they do, they start off

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strong and then they tend to dip
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And then 789 is when we kind of
get going again.

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And I feel like we're on that
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And really, last episode we were
heading back up again, but this

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really shot us back to the top.
Yeah, and I'm really curious to

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see why they put the last two
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There must be something going on
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It just has to naturally feed
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It's just interesting, right?
Maybe they just didn't want to

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release them after Halloween.
Yeah, it's like all the

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marketing thing.
But we'll see.

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I also before we get out of like
initial thoughts or just like

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talking about the episode.
I love these types of stories.

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I love the out of sync timey
wimey out of chronological

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order.
Most of the time they're sad,

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right, like this is like just by
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They are two that really come to
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Hunting pill house with Nell.
That is like I think to AT this

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kind of story and then Doctor
Who did it has done it time and

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time again.
I just love those stories.

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They they do resonate with me,
but they're typically sad, which

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is like, oh.
Yeah, I was just thinking that

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just happened in the last Doctor
Who, right?

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With 73 yards.
Yeah, exactly.

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Yep.
So sad, but so satisfying.

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Right.
Yeah, they're just so poignant.

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They can really drive a point
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And I think, you know, with
Patti Lupone at the helm, how

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can we not?
All right, getting into the

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episode, let's dive in.
Let's I want, let's take a pit

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stop before we get to the trial
and the Lilia of it all.

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We have to talk about Agatha and
Teen or a Billy.

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And so use the calling of teen.
Let's talk about them leading up

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to the trial.
So there's a really interesting

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exchange that they do.
Agatha tries to taunt Billy into

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talking to her.
He's like, where's Rio?

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She sidesteps it.
So this is again, before we get

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that reveal of like who Rio is.
But one of the best points that

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we hear here, here, here is that
where's Wanda?

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Is she dead?
Billy asks her point blank.

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Is Wanda dead?
She's like no, yes, no, maybe

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come on.
Like I as soon as she said yes,

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I was like, oh, OK, now we have
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Wanda is dead for sure.
And then she left it up in the

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air.
I'm like, great, now we're back

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to where we were.
We don't know if she's dead or

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not.
No, and I don't think they want

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us to know either.
And I'm, I'm curious if like

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they were told do not confirm or
deny.

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I mean, we'll see by the end of
this, but I'm pretty sure they

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were like like like don't, don't
talk.

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About, yeah, yeah.
And I mean, I thought it's just

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so Agatha.
That's the thing with Agatha,

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right, is that it always feels
like Agatha is only going to

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give you the information she
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So at this point in time,
whether she like, it's almost

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like maybe she does know, but
she's not going to tell anyone.

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I mean, she, it is really
interesting that the body that

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we saw in the beginning, because
he asked her like, did you see a

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body?
I mean, she wasn't on the

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mountains, so how would she
know?

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But the body she saw, we never
saw a face, you know, we saw

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things and like the look of what
Wanda was wearing.

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So we assume it's her.
But I am curious of like, what?

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I'm wondering if we're going to
see that from a different

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perspective.
Right, 'cause what we know right

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now is that it's flowers, right?
So.

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But she saw something.
Different exactly, exactly.

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And so, you know, I think that's
something that we have to think

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about is that all of these kind
of shows that Agatha was playing

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through while she was still
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Was there any truth to any of
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There's something that comes up
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particular in this particularly
I know how to speak.

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I swear she has.
She asked him like, do you have

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any other queries for your
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Your old babysitter, which is a
cool nod to her being a

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babysitter in the comics
queries.

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Yeah.
And she also says I'm your mom's

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ex comma and Pa's best friend.
We get it, you're gay.

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But, you know, he he said
something of like, that's not my

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mother.
I have my mother.

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I already have a mother.
What do you make of that?

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What do you make of this?
Like inner turmoil that Billy

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Slash William is continuing to
go through?

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The question that I think we
have to ask is now that the

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sigil is broken, does are those
memories back in any way?

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Not that the sigil stops the
memories, but you know, Lilia

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put it on him for a reason.
So what he at this point

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remembers is that for three
years he was raised by the

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kaplans, right?
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And he convinced himself he was.
To say that Wanda is his mother,

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I mean, he was probably actually
raised by the Kaplans longer

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than he was actually raised by
Wanda because.

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Oh, yeah, you know what I mean?
That was like maybe two days or

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something, You know, it took a
couple hours exactly.

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They aged, but that wasn't the
true time of it.

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So I think for him, he's still
feeling that inner turmoil of

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who am I?
Am I William or am I Billy?

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And you know it.
It's almost like this grand

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family secret was uncovered.
But The thing is, he's been

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living this one life for all the
time that he's known.

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Yeah, I, I'm, I'm still in the
belief that he doesn't have

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William's memories or his own
from the Hex just because the

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way he was talking and still
presenting himself, it wasn't

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like I remember everything.
Because I feel like since it was

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such a big thing in the show for
him not having that or knowing

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if he's William, I feel like if
and when he gets those back,

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like they'll make a point to
show us.

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You know, it is interesting
because I think one of the

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things that we have to remember,
and I, I keep seeing people talk

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about it of like when, you know,
Billy gets his wish or when they

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get to the end of the road, it's
like, but the road gives you

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what you're missing.
And I feel like there's, there's

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a reason why they told us that.
And I'm more curious if at the

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end of it he becomes both like
and that's a way for William to

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live on.
I don't know if that means that

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he is also William, but if he
has the memories of William and

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Billy, how would that work?
Right?

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I could feel like that's a way
to satisfy both.

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I don't know.
Yeah, yeah.

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The duality of of his person.
I am so, so curious to know what

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actually happens at the end of
the road.

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I can't wait to see that.
Is it?

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Is it just another trial?
Is it some sort of being?

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Is it all the people that left
you on the road that you have to

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face them again?
And how does your sort of wish

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come true or, or the thing
you're looking for come true?

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That's the thing I'm like so so
curious about.

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If we're thinking about the
scenes that we've seen and clips

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and trailers and stuff that we
haven't seen yet, we're

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definitely get whatever the next
trial is.

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Looks like a morgue type thing
and it is purpley.

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So I'm curious if that's
actually Agatha's trial and like

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all the bodies and stuff that
like her body count, but also

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Jen is there.
So it's it's going to be

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interesting to see how Jen plays
into this trial.

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But there's just that scene of
Agatha and Billy on the floor

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and she has her hands on his
head and it seems like something

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is happening to him.
So I'm curious if that's like

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him getting everything back and
she's trying to help him.

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My like, oh, oh, OK, we'll save
this for the end of like what we

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think is going to happen in the
end.

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I'll save that part for there
because I don't want to like go

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all the way to the end right
now.

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OK.
We still have so much to talk.

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About.
I'll stop there.

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But I do, I find it like it.
It does the exchange really

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interesting.
And one of the last things that

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happens in this exchange is
Billy questions if Agatha

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actually was on the road at all,
which I know that was something

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we were kicking around at the
beginning because it was like,

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she doesn't seem like she knows
what she's doing nor wants to be

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there.
So if the road changes for the

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covenant, it would make sense.
Or if this is Billy's mind doing

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like some type of hex thing, it
would also make sense and why

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she's just like whatever.
Yeah.

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And of course, and the question
of why did she lie to begin

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with, of ever being on the road?
What is she trying to hide or

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cover up?
I also just everybody died.

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Well, that's true.
I do think that it is

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interesting that, you know, the
last time we saw the group

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together, Billy went all blue on
them and, you know, threw them

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and buried them in mud.
And here they are having a very

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civil conversation.
It seems that covens get over

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things very easily.
People just happen to witch out

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and they're just like, all
right, are you done?

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OK, let's let's continue.
You get your powers are under

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control.
They're showing us how to

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forgive and forget.
All right, so on to the trial

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and Lilia of it all.
And also the big reveal of Rio,

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which I think everybody by now
just like Wig.

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And we were like, yeah, but
cool.

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We're like adoi.
Yeah, I the opening of this

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episode, as soon as it showed
her falling, because that was

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the first shot we got in this
episode, I was like, she's going

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to die, She's going to die in
this episode.

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But just the journey leading up
to that was so freaking cool

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because it's like when you think
about it, it's like, what would

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the trial be with tarot cards?
Just have swords fall from the

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ceiling and on top of that have
them stab and squish you.

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Yeah, amazing.
Absolutely.

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There's no escaping them.
Even if you managed to dodge a

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falling 1, the whole ceiling's
coming down anyway.

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Squished and stabbed.
Yeah, yeah, you're, you're

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getting skewered no matter what,
so you better get it right.

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So what did you think about the
costumes of all of.

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Them Oh, the costumes were so
fun.

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I mean, I was trying to piece
together like why they are each

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that particular witch.
And So what I've come up with

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is, well, obviously, you know,
Lily is the good witch, right?

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Especially in this trial, she is
the.

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She's also the mother of the
coven.

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Absolutely.
For Jen, she looks very much

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like the witch from Snow White,
right?

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And so there's a poison apple.
And so she deals with poisons

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and tinctures and things like
that.

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It's also like the opposite of
her, like she was very like,

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ugly.
Gorgeous.

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Yeah, right.
Exactly.

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And she's normally gorgeous and
it's like the opposite of her,

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right?
And then so the interesting

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thing with Agatha being the
Wicked Witch or Alphaba, I

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guess, and Joe Locke being
Maleficent is that they're

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painted one way in their
original runs, right?

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But then they're her subsequent
materials that show that they

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actually have a duality to them.
And so I mean, that is literally

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a duality with Billy and
William.

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But with Agatha, you know,
Elphaba is almost misunderstood.

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She's seen as so evil, but it's
all for a reason.

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She did say it was based on her
right?

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So I'm curious if they mean like
the actual like original.

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For the Gregory McGuire version.
Or the Gregory McGuire version.

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I'm leaning more towards the
wicked version, but it is an

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interesting thought to think
about.

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Like why I'm I'm really it does
make me so sad that we will

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never get to see what Alice's
version of that would be so sad.

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I like to think, though, that
like the reason why they look

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like pop culture witches is
because it's to mess with Lilia

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because the entire time she's
very much like that's cultural

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appropriation.
That's just like a stereotype of

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witches.
Brooms are so like and it's like

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the trial did it, of course.
And it's like, yeah, fuck you

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trial, but also like the looks.
Yeah, I mean, it just was a

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customer's dream, I think.
I do want to say Joe Locke's

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lips looked gorgeous.
In the cheekbones, yeah.

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Absolutely.
I mean he is giving full on

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Angelina Jolie cheekbone.
I really liked that again, like

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Joe Locke as a man is in a
Marvel show dressed up like a a

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witch.
I just love that that is just

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like, yes, this, this boy can
dress up as their favorite witch

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or whatever.
I just love the the message of

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that.
It's like, Oh yeah, I could do

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that too.
Like if I wanted to be

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Maleficent, who the fuck is
going to tell me no, I'm going

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to look right doing it.
Hell yeah, I.

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Just love that.
I just love that, like in this

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episode, they really drove like,
this is Queer Express herself.

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Be who you want to be.
Yeah, and I forget in the trial

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he had a line that he said about
something about being queer or

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not being straight or something
like that.

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Yeah, he told Lilia, 'cause it's
the the queerant.

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That is.
Oh, that's.

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Right.
And he's like, oh, I'm the queer

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aunt.
Exactly.

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And so I think you're so right.
I love them.

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Just like driving that message
home to us in this.

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I feel like it's just like it's
always been that thing of like

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being a comic book reader and
seeing how free and open and

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queer these comics can be.
And then like having the MCU be

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here for how long And it's like,
oh, and Eternals, we finally got

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like a gay kiss, but it was they
were gay, but like, let's move

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on, right.
So in this, them being like very

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open about it is just it makes
me more excited for what's to

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come.
And I, I, I, there is such

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beauty in that, you know, for
me, I think it's different for

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the generations that have come
after me, you know, not that I'm

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ancient in any way, but when I
was in grade school, I and even

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high school, I spent so much
time hiding who I was and trying

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not to let people know.
And so to see a teen character,

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full name teenager, which was a
hilarious line.

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My God.
She used his full name.

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Used his full name.
It just feels so wonderful to

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see a, you know, in, in the MCU
in particular, a teen just so

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openly being themself in so many
ways.

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Even with Eddie in the last
episode, you know, it's, it just

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is.
It's honestly groundbreaking for

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this superhero genre to have
this storyline in it.

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And even just Rio and Agatha
there, I mean, there's multiple

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times at the top of this episode
she's like, you want a straight

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answer?
And that's a straight lady.

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It's like, well, we have our for
sure confirmation she ain't

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straight, which it's Katherine
Hahn.

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You know, it's just, it is.
It's very exciting.

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We have to celebrate the little
rainbow wins that we get.

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Yeah, before they, you know,
kill a queen of Broadway in

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front of us to make the entire
queer community cry.

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I also wonder if it was like
Patti Lupone is in this.

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We can be as gay as we want and
Marvel's like.

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Absolutely.
Go for it.

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They're like we're singing,
we're dressing up, we're doing

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everything we possibly can.
So let's talk about so outside

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of Agatha and Billy.
Well, so she, there's an

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interesting thing that happens
here.

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So they're separated, right?
And I did find somebody online

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that wrote that made sure to
kind of compile the cards that

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Agatha puts down because I
again, the show does everything

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for a reason.
And if they don't go anywhere,

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they don't go anywhere.
But I did want to talk about it

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because I feel like it's
interesting.

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So this person on Twitter,
Bambus under score brain had

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wrote them down and kind of what
they assumed that they mean,

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right?
So in the traveler spot, there's

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the five of wands reversed,
avoiding conflict, respecting

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differences.
The path behind is the world

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card, Fulfillment, harmony,
completion, Path ahead, Page of

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Swords, Curiosity, restlessness,
mental energy, obstacles, Wheel

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of Fortune, Wheel of Change,
cycles, inevitable Fate,

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potential, windfall, the
Hangman, Sacrifice, release,

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martyrdom.
I don't like that.

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What's missing?
2 of wands, planning, making

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decisions, leaving home the
destination. 10 of Swords

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reversed.
Can't get worse only up from

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here.
Inevitable end that's.

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I feel like that last part
doesn't make sense with the

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first two parts.
Right.

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That's really interesting to see
that.

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It's like for the Hanged Man, it
means sacrifice, but yet the

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destination can be ongoing, but
there is an inevitable end.

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So I mean.
Hangman definitely seems like if

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this is Agatha, right, because
she's the one placing the cards

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down, sacrifice or release of
some sort.

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And is that Nicholas scratch in
some way?

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Because it seems like that's
very much we can't forget about

447
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,200
him assuming that his hair is in
the Locket.

448
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,160
Like there's going to be some
type of getting over something

449
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,600
maybe.
But the destination is

450
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,280
interesting.
Can't get worse only up from

451
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,760
here.
I don't know, sacrifice seems

452
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,120
the opposite.
Well, that's The thing is.

453
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,880
And and so I think the thing
that we have to think about

454
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:03,280
though, is that what is worse?
Like for us, it's like, oh,

455
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,280
well, sacrificing yourself,
that's that's the worst.

456
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:12,040
But maybe for Agatha, that's
finally being selfless and

457
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,760
finally giving herself over for
the betterment of others.

458
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,960
It's about time.
I mean, really.

459
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,320
I mean, it does very much seem
like if we're, if we're going

460
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,720
with the whole like the reason
why she was dressed up as a

461
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,440
wicked witch, not only because
she was amazing and gorgeous in

462
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,040
it, but again, it's that
misunderstanding everything that

463
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,880
we were kind of theorizing with
when he was researching her and

464
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,200
it was like she was on the
Titanic.

465
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,080
She was all of this.
And it's like, I think people

466
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,560
are just assuming she's bad
because of one mistake.

467
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,760
So it's going to be interesting
to see is she going to finally

468
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,520
become more than what people
assume?

469
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,320
And she's going to break out of
that, like, oh, this is what

470
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,240
people think I am, so I'm going
to act that way.

471
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,320
It's going to be interesting to
see where she grows.

472
00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:54,560
Yeah.
Is she going to let others

473
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,640
narrative of her drive her
actions?

474
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,520
But it's weird because she is so
supportive of Billy.

475
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:06,400
She does care for the coven
other than killing Alice, but

476
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,360
you know.
Right, right.

477
00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:12,520
She goes in and out though, so I
think that it's that inner

478
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,640
struggle.
You know, I feel like this this

479
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,600
show doesn't really have a
villain, right?

480
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,800
I mean, we don't I could eat my
words and who knows with Rio at

481
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,760
the end.
But it definitely seems like

482
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:27,120
what this story is trying to
tell us is the the like the

483
00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:30,160
journey of the heart, right?
It's the the inner stuff, the

484
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,440
the villain is yourself.
And to fulfill that journey, you

485
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,040
have to overcome that work.
Absolutely.

486
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,480
So we'll see.
And I think that's mirrored in

487
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,960
Lilia's story here, right?
Is that, you know, we've heard

488
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:49,280
little snippets of her life and
how she was cast out so often,

489
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,480
but it almost seems like it was
all for a reason.

490
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:57,520
I mean, imagine though, like
your power is not only are you

491
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,120
kind of slipping in and out,
right, but your power.

492
00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:03,120
And I think she specifically
said in that art where she talks

493
00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:07,160
about, you know, I protected all
these deaths, but it's all death

494
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,280
like any village that she was in
any town.

495
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,960
And it's like, oh, I'm used to
just tell them their loved ones

496
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,160
are dying or their subjects are
dying or whatever.

497
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,600
So it's like, imagine that as
your existence.

498
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,440
It's like I am the bearer of bad
news.

499
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,280
I'm literally the messenger of
death.

500
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,640
Yeah, it's awful.
It is really awful.

501
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,840
She deserves better.
She she does, but it you know,

502
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:32,240
this was an interesting episode.
And so, you know, throughout the

503
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,240
six episodes that came prior to
this, we we had bread crumbs the

504
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,400
whole time.
The connecting, the connecting,

505
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,760
right?
So we were always trying to

506
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,480
track her outbursts that didn't
fit into the scene.

507
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,000
We were always trying to track
the tarot cards that she just

508
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,800
yelled out.
And, and now we see how it all

509
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,560
fits together.
What did you think of how it all

510
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,360
came together in this episode?
You know, I think it was one of

511
00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:59,600
those things where we knew,
right, because we kind of got

512
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,720
snippets of like when Alice
died, we were like, oh, that's

513
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,320
that makes sense.
And why she was like, don't save

514
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,160
Agra, the Harkness.
We put that together.

515
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:13,560
But I think finally seeing it
all come together was one of the

516
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,880
best payouts for the MCU or even
just kind of shows right.

517
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,520
It just was so well done.
I loved it.

518
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,360
I think it was a perfect way to
send off this character of like,

519
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,840
she isn't wispy or kooky.
It was all for a reason.

520
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,000
But what a way for your powers
to work.

521
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,920
Oh, so confusing.
So disorienting.

522
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,880
Absolutely.
And, And how could you know when

523
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,400
she's going into these villages?
How could they not see her as

524
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,600
off her rocker when she might be
having a conversation with you

525
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,520
and then blurts out something
random or has a convulsion

526
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,440
because she's having a vision
and she's like.

527
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,400
Centuries ahead or centuries
behind, but.

528
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,680
This is all her strength,
actually, and so it's so sad to

529
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,360
think that her strength is
actually what ended up casting

530
00:27:58,360 --> 00:28:01,840
her out and making her sort of a
loner in her life until she

531
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:07,960
found this final coven.
I really appreciate Jen and hers

532
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,600
relationship in this because I
feel like, you know, we we see

533
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:16,600
them bond almost throughout this
show, but not enough, right?

534
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,400
And it is very much the Agatha
and Billy show.

535
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,560
But it's it was nice to have an
episode that felt like an

536
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:28,920
anthology but very centered
around Lilia, but still played a

537
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,520
bigger part in this whole series
and just having their

538
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,640
relationship and seeing like how
much she is the mother of the

539
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:41,040
coven, especially with Jen.
Beautiful I I saw a few clips

540
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,880
Patty appeared on Sasheer and
Nicole Byer's podcast and you

541
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,360
know, Nicole Byer acts, you
know, what is what was it like

542
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,280
working with my best friend on
the show?

543
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:55,440
And Patty gave this just really
beautiful answer of they had

544
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,880
such a connection the two of
them and looking into her eyes

545
00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,760
and everything that she was
willing to give to her in the

546
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,680
scene as a partner.
I think that connection in real

547
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:07,280
life played off on screen.
And, you know, it was funny for

548
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,600
us to see her saying things to
Jen and Jen saying, you just

549
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,640
told me that, you know, But what
we see is when they first fall

550
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,400
under the mud, under the ground,
we see it later in the episode.

551
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,920
But they actually have a choice,
which is interesting, right?

552
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,880
They can either continue on the
road to the trial or we see that

553
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,560
underground system that Missus
Hart spoke about that they were

554
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,400
saying is the exit.
So it's like, can you, will you

555
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,560
abandon your coven to save
yourself or will you continue

556
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,680
onward?
So it, it it's like this episode

557
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,600
was just so good with the
choices, with the ticking clock,

558
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,880
with the, the pushing the
characters to make these

559
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,360
decisions.
And I think those two witches

560
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,840
particularly was really
interesting to see make those

561
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,640
choices.
Now, of course, Lilia is like, I

562
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,920
have to go to my trial.
I have to help my coven and Jen

563
00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:04,480
has been this character that is
very self preservation is very

564
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,520
looking, making sure that she's
safe and Alice's trial.

565
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,240
She's like I'm going to need a
circle around me and didn't

566
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,240
leave when Billy got hurt.
She still stayed in that circle.

567
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,160
So it it is very much like Jen
to be like I'm is that the exit?

568
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,880
Oh, I'm OK, I'm bye like I'm
going to I'm going to go.

569
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,440
But it wasn't until Lilia was
like, I would love for you to

570
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,320
come with me like you are my
sister in this craft.

571
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,120
Let's we can do this together.
But it's your decision, right?

572
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:33,440
I mean, how are you going to say
no?

573
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,640
Pena Lepone is like we're, we're
like sisters.

574
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,240
Yeah, yeah, Let's go.
You're right.

575
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:45,760
I'll go with you. 100% I also
thought it was beautiful to see

576
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:51,320
her as a young girl with her
Maestra with, with her teacher,

577
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,720
you know, the maybe the even the
leader of her coven.

578
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,040
And it's so interesting that you
know, from what we know is that

579
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,280
when we're seeing her as a young
girl, she's actually living that

580
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,360
in that moment.
But.

581
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,160
All out of sync.
Yes, but her Maestra is aware of

582
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,480
that, and she asks her these
questions to dig deeper into

583
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,520
herself, to realize what's going
on and so.

584
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,960
And for her, like, teacher to
sit there and be like, oh, this

585
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,000
is fine.
Like, this is your first lesson,

586
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,760
like reading tea leaves.
And it's like, oh, are you from?

587
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,440
OK?
Like what's going on?

588
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,160
Yeah.
And even that thing of, you

589
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,840
know, she says, I was always
terrible at reading tea leaves.

590
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,440
And she says something along the
lines of, no, that's just what

591
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,680
you told yourself.
Look at it.

592
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,280
You know, there's such a lesson
to be learned there.

593
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,880
And it almost felt like, you
know, and, and now knowing in

594
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,400
retrospect that this is the
final, these are the final

595
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,040
moments of her life.
It's that thing of when you're

596
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:53,680
given so much incredible advice,
but you almost don't realize it

597
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,680
until it's too late.
And in this, in this moment, it

598
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,280
wasn't necessarily too late.
It came at the right time.

599
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,560
But, you know, if these lessons,
she had learned them earlier on

600
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,040
in her existence, you know,
maybe her path could have been a

601
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,440
little different.
And there is some comfort

602
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,360
though, that she when she was
talking to Jen, she said, when I

603
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,080
was younger, this happened a
lot, but it's happening now,

604
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,840
which is funny to think about
because it's like it, it didn't

605
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,480
stop happening.
You just got to the point in

606
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,280
your older self where then it
was happening, you know, so that

607
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,960
timey wimey thing, right?
It was always going to happen.

608
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,360
Just unfortunately it was at the
end.

609
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:35,440
But there is some comfort in her
coming to those realizations of

610
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,080
like, oh shit, I was a bad ass
witch.

611
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,120
I did everything that I could
have done, and I was a mother of

612
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,520
a coven.
There's.

613
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,120
Also like in that.
Yeah, and like her final words

614
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,040
being like I loved being a
witch.

615
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,320
Oh, tears my.
Gosh, and, and even in that

616
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,760
moment when she's talking to
Jen, you know, she's like, but

617
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,440
it's happening a lot more now
and she goes, I think it's

618
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,680
coming to the end and Jen thinks
she's talking about the road.

619
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,880
The trial, yeah.
But she's actually talking about

620
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:08,280
her life.
I again, this show, these

621
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,520
writers, Jack Shaffer, all of
these people, it's just so good.

622
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,200
It's so good.
I there was a moment after we

623
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:22,000
were done watching this where
like we were like, oh, like this

624
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,960
was that episode of this series.
And granted, the next two

625
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,760
episodes can be even better, but
like, there was just something

626
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,920
special about.
It yeah, because there was just

627
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,120
there was, I don't know, there
was just such depth to this

628
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,640
episode that they they anchored
everything.

629
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,560
Even though we're talking about
a witch who slips through time,

630
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:46,200
they anchored it in true emotion
and just being a human and how

631
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:52,560
difficult that can be.
And so, you know, much like much

632
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,320
like her teacher says of like,
you know, I'm not afraid of

633
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:56,560
death or death comes for
everyone.

634
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,480
It's the one thing we all have
in common, you know, but I think

635
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,160
that also in life, we all go
through difficult times, right.

636
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,480
And so seeing this on the play
out, even though it's with a

637
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,199
witch, even though it's, you
know, during a trial where

638
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:12,320
swords are falling from the
ceiling, we can go, damn, life

639
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,280
is really fucking tough
sometimes.

640
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,320
But it's getting through it and
knowing your value that matters

641
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,120
and.
With your coven, yeah, even if

642
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,480
it's like.
Your chosen family.

643
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,960
Yeah, even if it's with ones
that you didn't necessarily

644
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,040
choose.
And it's like just look around

645
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,719
you have you have a coven.
Even if you don't think you do,

646
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,480
you have one with us.
You're part of our coven.

647
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,080
OK, let's talk about.
So when Lilia and Jen finally

648
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:41,080
get there, I do have to say,
probably personally, one of the

649
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:46,320
best burns that Agatha did in
the show so far, she calls Lilia

650
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,520
Dory, like from Finding Nemo.
She's like, OK, Dory.

651
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,960
And it's like, I do it.
Yo, Agatha, stop.

652
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,120
It's not a memory issue, she's
actually living her life sliding

653
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,880
through time like.
Can you just be serious for one

654
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,400
second?
Like like the scene where she

655
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,240
was putting down the cards,
laughing and cackling like I

656
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,120
can't.
So anyway, let's go over the

657
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,480
cards that Lilia, the person
that should have been doing it

658
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:22,200
in the first place, does.
I do also really like that At

659
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,480
first she thought it was
supposed to be Billy that was

660
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,000
doing it, but the cards were all
about her because so many times

661
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,160
I would assume that these, these
people, these palm readers, the

662
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,400
the divination and everything
are doing it for other people

663
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,040
and not doing it for yourself.
So it was beautiful for her to

664
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,840
do the final reading for
herself.

665
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,120
So we have the Traveler, the
Queen of Cups, Lilia,

666
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,320
empathetic, intuitive, inner
voice to be trusted.

667
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:51,680
Missing 3 of Pentacles, her
coven, collaboration, community,

668
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,320
singular voices waiting to
harmonize.

669
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,640
Path behind the Knight of Swords
or the Knight of Wands.

670
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,320
Alice, full of fire, fights
briefly.

671
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,400
Path ahead.
The High priestess Jen, immense

672
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,600
spiritual power, unable or
unwilling to use it.

673
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:15,880
The obstacle 3 of Swords, Agatha
heartbreak, sorrow, grief, damn

674
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,080
the windfall.
The tower reversed.

675
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:23,480
William slash Billy disaster
destruction, sudden upheaval,

676
00:36:23,720 --> 00:36:28,840
but reversed miraculous
transformation destination death

677
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:34,200
Rio and I do want to say so the
person that put this together is

678
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:40,040
again on Twitter and it's at
FZZT Sylvie.

679
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:41,880
So I just want to give them a
shout out.

680
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,440
Thank you for the Internet and
people compiling that.

681
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,760
This coupled with every single
time she did a card and who it

682
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:53,720
was about showing the card.
The scene, I think the one that

683
00:36:53,720 --> 00:36:59,360
got me Agatha, me too.
Agatha's I was just like, OK,

684
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,720
one was that there was that in
the actual scene.

685
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,720
Good question.
I don't care.

686
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,360
So I don't know why, but it was
just like, oh fuck, like that.

687
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,560
This is who Agatha is.
I mean, it's funny, right,

688
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,560
'cause it's like the production
company designed these cards,

689
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,640
you know what I mean?
Like they designed these cards,

690
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,360
they set these scenes up.
But when you when you look at

691
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,760
them side by side when you were
in those scenes, you weren't

692
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,320
going well, that looks like kind
of staged, that looks kind of

693
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,440
whatever.
Like it was just their

694
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:29,640
character.
Entrances, right?

695
00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:31,120
Yeah.
Especially when she first meets

696
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,240
Jen right in in Agatha's house.
We were just like.

697
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,920
Yeah, but it's like it matches
the card.

698
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,360
Well, you know, I I did have a
moment and I was like, wow, you

699
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,360
know, that was such a powerful
pose for Alice to go into.

700
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,920
But that's how the knight is
holding his weapon.

701
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,160
It's just.
Agatha's with the broomsticks.

702
00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:50,520
Oh my gosh.
Doing the swords and also it's

703
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,320
just like I didn't realize how
much grief and sorrow was in

704
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,760
Agatha's face at that moment
with teen like that.

705
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:02,320
It's just it kind of made you
realize that like, Oh my God,

706
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,800
the the teaser posters that they
did months ahead of time or I, I

707
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:12,160
would say maybe a couple months
was crazy to see play out in

708
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,840
real time.
You know, they don't really do

709
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,400
that ever.
So it's just like a meta waiting

710
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,080
for it to happen and it finally
did.

711
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,440
And it's just Lily is the one
driving who is Patti Lupone, And

712
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,120
it's just like, what is
happening?

713
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,960
We just have to be grateful.
For it at this point in time,

714
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,080
Jeez Louise.
I mean any, any like I guess

715
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,680
final thoughts on like the trial
itself before we go to the

716
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,840
upheaval of it.
I think they did, you know, for

717
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,720
a very short episode, there were
a lot of beats in this trial.

718
00:38:43,720 --> 00:38:46,520
You know, first Agatha, then
Billy, then finally Lilia.

719
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,920
Lilia coming to the realization
of what was going on.

720
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,720
Like they packed so much into
this short episode.

721
00:38:51,720 --> 00:38:54,680
And the Salem 7.
Oh yeah, you know, RIP.

722
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,120
They did they I feel like this.
If you're going to make the

723
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,040
episode under 40 minutes, this
is how you do it.

724
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,600
And I, I'm not sure if it was
just like the payoff and like

725
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,080
the literal like on the edge of
your seat, just like, Oh my God,

726
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,400
like just watching everything,
complete silence, get gasped

727
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,680
here and there.
But this is how you do it.

728
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,960
This was such an effective way
to do a short episode.

729
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,960
I didn't feel like it was.
Short no, not at all.

730
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:27,160
And especially in, in, you know,
you, you know what's coming,

731
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,160
right?
You know what's going to happen,

732
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,400
but waiting for it and and
looking to see how it's going to

733
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:37,120
happen and and knowing that it
was her choice in that moment.

734
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:44,560
I love to think so when Lilia
finally does it right, she read

735
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,800
for herself.
She read for the coven, which is

736
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,240
a beautiful thought.
The Salem 7 are there and it's

737
00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:51,960
like, how are they going to get
out of it?

738
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:56,000
It's like swords on the ceiling.
But I just love the last scene

739
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,120
that Lilia is with her coven and
she's ushering them through the

740
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:03,320
Iron Maiden and out.
And I thought in my head, and I

741
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,200
don't know if it's because of
all of the Wizard of Oz imagery,

742
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,360
and she's literally Glenda.
But it's like Lilia gave Agatha

743
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,320
courage, she gave Tina Brain and
Jenna Hart.

744
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,120
She literally it was literally
just Wizard of Oz because she

745
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:22,040
talked to each one of them as
she was like taking them out.

746
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,960
It was just beautiful.
And then the final thing of I

747
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,160
love being a witch.
What a bad ass way to kill the

748
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,720
Salem 7.
I hope they are done because 1.

749
00:40:32,720 --> 00:40:34,400
I don't want her death to be in
vain.

750
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,480
I don't care that they were
after Agatha this whole time.

751
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,520
Let the Mother of the Coven flip
that tower upside down.

752
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,760
Yeah, and just that slow motion
fall, especially when we see it

753
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,160
through the tower window.
Dang, it's so good.

754
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,720
And then of course, like what?
All of them getting impaled.

755
00:40:51,720 --> 00:40:55,200
I wanted to re watch that scene
to like listen for the

756
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,680
impalements to be like was it
all 7?

757
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,520
Did all 7 get on there?
I mean I could see maybe one of

758
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,880
them escaping but like what a
fucking bad ass way that final

759
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:12,080
shot of her just like kind of
being content yes with like this

760
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,480
is the choice.
This is where my path LED to

761
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,600
death.
Absolutely, absolutely.

762
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:21,640
And I was very relieved that we
although we got to see the Salem

763
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,920
7 get impaled, we didn't have to
watch Lilia get impaled.

764
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,640
We don't watch Patti.
Lupone get impaled?

765
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:32,240
No, but we have that beautiful
scene of her as a young girl

766
00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:35,200
again sitting down at the table.
So I'm curious.

767
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:39,000
I want to, I want to say my
thought on that scene, but I'm

768
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,040
curious if you felt similar or
different in that.

769
00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:46,400
So I'm curious if like after she
fell and she woke up, that her

770
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:50,880
younger self, she gets to live
the parts of her childhood that

771
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,200
she wasn't able to because she
was like time slipping and

772
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,480
stuff.
Because that look that she gave

773
00:41:55,480 --> 00:42:01,360
was very much like this is Lilia
then being able to get to redo

774
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,720
it in a way, that's how I took
it.

775
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,240
Yeah, I, I took it that way as
well.

776
00:42:07,240 --> 00:42:10,880
I mean, I'm also a person that
like, I want the best for the

777
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,720
characters that I love.
So I think that she now has all

778
00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:17,800
of the wisdom of her life, but
now in the body of a young girl,

779
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:22,160
I think that she's very much
aware that she's back at this

780
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:23,960
point in time.
'Cause that was that look,

781
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,680
right?
And it's like, I feel like she's

782
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:30,240
finally like, like, OK with her
abilities and proud to be a

783
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:31,880
witch.
And it's like, that's the

784
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,560
feeling that I got.
I don't know, obviously that's

785
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,640
going to change the course of
her path or how that exactly

786
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,320
works, but like that look just
made me think that.

787
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,400
Yeah, It really felt content.
It felt like she was home.

788
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:46,760
Accomplished.
Accomplished.

789
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,160
Yeah.
Bad ass.

790
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,880
And of course, we cannot,
obviously cannot end this

791
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,000
episode without talking about
the reveal we all knew was

792
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,080
coming.
We theorized.

793
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:02,520
But Oh my God, what a reveal the
having and Lilia and Jen dropped

794
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,360
through that hole and then Lilia
waking up and seeing this figure

795
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,880
come towards her and when she's
like Rio is death again.

796
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,200
We knew it was coming, but the
way they did it was showing the

797
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,280
Ouija board with showing the the
iconography.

798
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,440
It was showing her come out of
that shadow and just the skull.

799
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,320
Face in her true form, almost.
Oh my God.

800
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,200
Hot, sexy.
I get it, Agatha.

801
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,960
I get it.
And everyone you looking at

802
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,120
Agatha going like really, really
you dated, you were dating

803
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,280
death.
Maybe your most substantial

804
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,640
relationship was with death.
She only likes the bad guys.

805
00:43:39,720 --> 00:43:42,800
Apparently so.
This is one of the baddest for

806
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,880
sure.
It is really interesting.

807
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,000
It's so because what does that
mean?

808
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:49,720
Right.
That's my big question.

809
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:55,120
What does it mean that death
itself death, not Hella?

810
00:43:55,200 --> 00:44:00,280
Hella is the goddess of death.
She's like, she's like a a

811
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:05,280
manager in a company and Rio is
the company if you know, she's

812
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,080
above Hella.
So it's like, what does it mean

813
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:13,800
that now the death itself is
introduced in the MCU, but also

814
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,240
what does that mean for Agatha
and for Billy?

815
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:21,840
Is this why only one which goes
through the end of the trial?

816
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,760
Because the payment is to pay
death with your coven?

817
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,280
Yeah, what I mean, I mean, if we
think of the of the scene from

818
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,400
Alice's trial, she says, you
know, I collect my bodies.

819
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:37,360
And so is it like she's
literally just on this journey

820
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,480
to be taking them as they all
die?

821
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,880
I feel like we need to revisit
the first two episodes with

822
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,880
Rio's first introduction with
Agatha because it it's very

823
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,400
interesting to think of how she
was first introducted,

824
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:55,120
introducted, introduced of
wanting to kill Agatha, going

825
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,040
after her and then Agatha being
like, no, this isn't how you

826
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,840
want to do it.
Let me get my full power and

827
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:01,960
then we can Duke it out.
But then they kind of like

828
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,040
fizzled that out in a way.
And it was like, wait, why was

829
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,840
is Rio death wanting to just
collect Agatha because she

830
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,440
should have died a long time
ago?

831
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,560
Are these witches breaking
rules?

832
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,880
Like are they not supposed to be
living this long?

833
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,400
I'm, I'm curious, I'm like, what
is that?

834
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:22,240
Because then we get the whole
scar conversation with Rio and

835
00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:26,120
she's like, Agatha is my scar
because I did something again.

836
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:30,120
I think we can theorize it's
probably she took Nicholas

837
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,400
Scratch from her, it was her
job, she didn't want to do it.

838
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,800
So why would Rio then be upset
at Agatha in the beginning?

839
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,480
Right.
Yeah, No, it's a it's a really

840
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:40,440
good question.
Like what?

841
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,680
What really brought Rio back
into Agatha's life?

842
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,520
Or sorry, I just had like a
Ding.

843
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:52,840
Or is it like she was upset that
she kind of ghosted her type of

844
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,640
thing because it's death.
She can do whatever the fuck she

845
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,120
wants.
She could be as mad or happy as

846
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:57,520
she wants.
And it's like, is that her

847
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,640
response to finally finding
Agatha again of like, you didn't

848
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,960
answer my messages?
Like I'm going to kill you now.

849
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:10,920
Or, or is it something to be?
No, I don't know because of

850
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,160
course the timing with Billy
showing up and Rio showing up at

851
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,520
the same time, like how is this
all connected?

852
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,840
That's the question.
And she did say when she first

853
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,120
saw teen at the time, she's
like, why did you bring him?

854
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:28,600
So it seems like either she's
upset that the body of something

855
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:33,640
that she claimed is still being
used or maybe she's not able to

856
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,520
fully take William.
I don't know.

857
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,240
I mean, I feel like this is the
points of like, what does this

858
00:46:39,240 --> 00:46:41,800
mean?
I am going to be curious though.

859
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,280
The biggest thing we can't
forget is Agatha, right?

860
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,880
Where is her going into the
finale?

861
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,200
Let's think of like Billy and
Agatha.

862
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,720
Where do you think this is going
for them?

863
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,960
Like is there a solution or
ending that you would be happy

864
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,840
with or not happy with?
You know, I don't know if it's a

865
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:03,480
happy or not happy thing, but
the thing that I really do

866
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:08,400
wonder is who is going to be
left at the end of this, right?

867
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:13,680
And I I keep harping on what the
title of this show means.

868
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,640
Agatha all along, right?
Other than the song, which we

869
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,520
know.
But, you know, I feel like

870
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:20,800
there's going to be some more
meaning here.

871
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,960
So is Agatha the key all along?
Was she the villain all along?

872
00:47:25,240 --> 00:47:28,880
You know what is actually going
to be happening with Agatha.

873
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:34,080
Yeah, I'm, I think my, what I'm
hoping that happens or I could

874
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:39,720
see hopefully maybe happening,
is that like she finally lets

875
00:47:39,720 --> 00:47:44,320
down the facade of being this
big bad witch and realizes that

876
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,840
with Billy being the son of the
Scarlet Witch and having this

877
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,000
immense power, that he does need
some type of teacher and that

878
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,720
she does belong in a coven.
Like don't kill your coven this

879
00:47:54,720 --> 00:47:55,920
time.
Foster your coven.

880
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,000
Yeah, that'd be nice.
Just bear, you know, just simple

881
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:58,680
things.
Learn from.

882
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,440
Lilia, right?
And she helps him.

883
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,560
That's what I hope while still
keeping a Agatha.

884
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,520
Because I mean, I feel like
Agatha isn't again, a villain or

885
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,920
a hero.
She is who she wants to be.

886
00:48:13,240 --> 00:48:18,720
And I wouldn't mind that if in
this series she learned to not

887
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:22,960
play into what everybody thinks
of her and to finally help, you

888
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:27,120
know, because imagine if she
would have mentored Wanda

889
00:48:27,240 --> 00:48:29,000
instead of trying to claim her
power.

890
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,520
What would have happened?
You know, maybe people not

891
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,080
dying.
Yeah, maybe she wouldn't have

892
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,920
gone on a crazy journey through
the multiverse and trying to

893
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,680
steal other people's kids.
Yeah, I am worried, though,

894
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,920
about Billy.
He's the one that I'm worried

895
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,840
about.
With Rio around, I'm not too

896
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,680
sure how that's going to go.
Do you think it's going to be

897
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,240
like, that's not your body, Like
you can't take that?

898
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:51,680
Right.
Maybe.

899
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,880
Or of like you're not supposed
to exist.

900
00:48:55,720 --> 00:48:57,560
I don't know.
I I again, I don't know the

901
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,120
rules of death.
I was going to say, what are the

902
00:48:59,120 --> 00:48:59,960
rules of death?
Right.

903
00:48:59,960 --> 00:49:01,240
So I guess we're going to find
out.

904
00:49:01,240 --> 00:49:05,520
But Billy being miraculously
created that way and then also

905
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,400
taking over a vessel, My hope is
that Billy and William can be

906
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,080
one.
Is Rio going to like that?

907
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,720
They could truly be bilium.
We need.

908
00:49:15,720 --> 00:49:16,920
Bilium.
We need bilium.

909
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,720
Let them exist.
What a beautiful episode.

910
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:20,920
Yeah.
Oh good.

911
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,200
So phenomenal.
So good, we have one more

912
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,280
episode left.
It's going to be a super sized

913
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,720
one, I guess because we have two
episodes and we have just the

914
00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:32,280
whole series to digest.
So that will be next week.

915
00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:33,960
But let us know what you
thought.

916
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,800
Give us your thoughts, comment
below, share your thoughts, go

917
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,800
in Discord.
I don't know, find a way to tell

918
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,560
us what you think because we
love hearing what people think

919
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,680
because a lot of times you guys
think of some crazy things that

920
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,680
we did not.
I want to know what you all

921
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,640
think is going to happen next.
What's the ending?

922
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,680
Also, what are the lyrics?
What are going to be the?

923
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,160
I know we were looking, we're
trying to track, but there's no

924
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:58,880
way of telling.
It's just going to be down,

925
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,040
down, down, down.
Keep going.

926
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:06,960
All right, so till next week at
the back of the Oh my gosh, bye

927
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:07,360
bye.