'Doctor Who' The Well Review | Season 2 Episode 3
Suit up, troopers! It’s time to review Doctor Who season 2, episode 3: The Well! On the menu: The Doctor’s return to Midnight, assistive technology & inclusivity, space paranoia, Earth’s fate, that booty poppin’ costume, and more!
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(00:00) - Intro
(02:02) - General Thoughts On Episode 3
(07:51) - Each Episode Is Back To Back
(09:14) - The Well Vs Midnight Comparisons
(15:58) - Alyss & Assistive Technology
(20:31) - Stand Out Scenes & Ending
(26:47) - Mrs. Flood & Final Thoughts
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I got to be honest, I thought
this episode was going to take
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place in a bakery.
The doctor's got cakes, baby
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cake, cake, cake, cake, cake,
cake.
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Hello everyone, and welcome to
another episode of A Bite of I'm
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Derek.
That's Noah, and we're talking
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about Doctor Who Season 2,
Episode 3.
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We're saying it too much at the
top of an episode.
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So you're saying it, but then
you say it, and then I say it
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again.
I just seen it.
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You don't know what I'm going to
say.
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Oh, I know what you're going to
say.
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We're talking about Doctor Who
Season 2, Episode 3.
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Yeah, the.
Well, this one highly
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anticipated just because of
rumors, you know, So we got a
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lot to talk about with this one.
Were the rumors right?
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Is it true?
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In this climate, you better.
OK, spoilers ahead for Doctor
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Who the Well go watch it please
and maybe watch an episode from
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season 4, episode 10 My Help.
Just look at that tight
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costuming in this episode, So
tight.
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Let us officially take a bite of
Doctor Who Season 2 Episode 3
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the well written by Russell T
Davies and Sharma Angel Walfall
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and directed by Amanda Brocchi.
The Doctor and Belinda suit up
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and skydive with a team of
troopers, landing on a deserted
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planet.
The heartbeat of a Soul Survivor
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is discovered, but something
lurks just behind their back.
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When the clock strikes midnight,
something seems all too
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familiar.
Familiar.
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Can you believe it?
So what are your general
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thoughts, Mr. Noah?
I dare to say it's probably one
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of my favorite episodes of
Doctor Who in a long time.
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I think it actually has knocked
out some of my favourites from
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Anshuti's first season being the
Devil's Cord and 73 Yards.
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I was trying to think of what
the unit of measurement was.
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I would say it's like now on top
of my favorite Fern Chuti.
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And that's mostly because I just
think the acting and the
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building of paranoia and fear,
it's like a pressure cooker of
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all of that was so well done.
Coupled with the music, the
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costuming, which we already
mentioned, which is dangerous
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and sexy and probably the best
space suits in recent memory.
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I think it's a very good episode
of Doctor Who.
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And it sometimes whenever I see
episodes like this, I'm like,
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you know, if we could just
always be running on all of
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these cylinders all the time.
I know it's impossible, right?
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But like, it would just make
Doctor Who like just so much
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better.
Does that make sense?
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Yeah, I understand.
I mean, at first I want to say
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I'm sorry for putting my male
gaze on Inchuti, but but they
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were like doing back shots of
him, like even some of his
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reactions, like nobody was
turning.
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Like everybody was fully turning
around except for him.
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Can you rephrase that 'cause I
think using back shots is even
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worse?
I think that was perfect, no?
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Made it 10 times worse.
What?
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He looked great.
You know, I mean, there's no
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apology.
There's whoever I, I meant to
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look up the costume designer.
I didn't.
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Whoever the costume designer was
was like, you know what, let's
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make sure everybody looks hot.
This entire cast, even that's a
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little small.
Everybody was very attractive.
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This was a sexy group of
troopers, that's for sure.
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But all together, back to the
actual episode, I agree with
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you.
You know, I think some of my
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kind of issues with some of the
latest episodes, this diminished
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all that.
This took those things and
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corrected it.
This felt like a very sorry to
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use this word again tight
episode, right?
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Everything.
There was a linear plot point.
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There were some mysteries
dropped in there.
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I think that the emotional beats
were we, we, we got them on a
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fairway.
It felt natural.
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Whereas sometimes it feels a
little forced to me.
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Sometimes the storyline feels a
little muddled.
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This one was super tight, super
to the point, and I felt like we
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could follow it the whole time.
It wasn't really muddled by any
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side stories or anything that we
were kind of introduced to
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things last minute.
Like this was a really great,
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intense episode.
I think this is a good example
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of even though it is essentially
a sequel to an episode that
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happened years prior with
another face and everything,
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sometimes with Doctor Who, they
like to introduce this sci-fi
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concept, this alien concept and
then over explain it almost or
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be like, just so you know, like
this is how it works.
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Where it's like, I think we need
to give some grace to the
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audience that we're a little
smarter.
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Like if we're this deep into
Doctor Who, I think we can
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figure it out, right.
And what this episode did was
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show that you don't need to
handhold and you just need to
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tell the story.
And I'm not saying Doctor Who
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does that a lot.
I'm just more, I guess I should
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broadly say sci-fi can tend to
do that.
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Or it's like, we got it, like
just just show us the story and
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then we'll figure it out, right?
And this one did a good job of
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like just we're figuring it out
as our characters are figuring
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it out, but we're in the dark
just as much as they are.
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And with an episode like this,
like this sci-fi horror, it
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works so well.
Yeah, and it's funny because
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when this episode started, I I
was nervous because I thought
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that they were going to do that
hand holding thing because
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there's kind of the over
explanation of how they can't
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get back to Earth 2025.
And, you know, Belinda being
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like, are we going to change
clothes?
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And it's like, oh, we're doing
this again.
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You know, we're we're we're
doing the same beat from the
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last episode.
But then when we get into it, it
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really kind of lost that.
And I also liked that we got
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those very classic who things,
right of him showing his blank
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badge, you know, of him using
the Sonic screwdriver.
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Psychic Paper.
Psychic paper.
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Sorry everyone.
Sorry, sorry, the comments are
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going wild.
But you know, and there was no
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explanation of it.
It just happened.
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Everybody kind of saw what they
needed to see and it just
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worked.
Their choice of using toxic in
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an unironic way was a choice
that was This is my biggest
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critique of this episode because
toxic has been played before but
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more of like mocking.
So in this way I was like I
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don't weird weird choice and.
Again, it yeah, it was something
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about that first scene right out
of this whole episode, which was
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really great.
That first scene was the only
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kind of hiccup for me.
And what?
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I liked, I liked the first
scene.
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It did feel a little like, OK,
we got to get the episode
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started right because we pick up
right from the last episode and
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Belinda and the doctor are
talking and she's like, are my
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parents there?
Like if Earth doesn't exit, like
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what are we talking about?
Like, and he comforts her and is
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like, I'm going to make your dad
laugh.
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You know, we're I'm going to
meet your parents.
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It's going to be fine.
So we have that moment of like,
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OK, like, let's just try to
figure it out.
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I know it's scary, but let's
figure it out.
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And then it does kind of get to
that.
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Can't be.
It'll be that.
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I don't know if it hit well, but
I do like them changing it to
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different outfits.
And I like that the TARDIS was
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like, I know exactly the space
outfits that these troopers
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have, so here you go. 100% the
TARDIS always knows what it's
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doing, you know?
But I do.
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And another point that's kind of
interesting about this season is
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that these first 3 episodes are
back-to-back to back, right?
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There's no adventure in between.
It's literally picking up where
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the last one left off.
I like how there's two things so
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far and this is on us or mostly
on me.
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And I was saying, you know,
there's episodes in between,
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there's journeys in between
these things.
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We don't see them this we're
seeing the relationship in real
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time.
Another thing that I, when you
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said what do you think about the
Vindicator, I was like, it's
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fine.
It's one of those things that's
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just going to go away, not going
to come back.
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It seems like it's going to be a
big part.
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It's the major pop point of the
season.
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And, you know, something that I
noticed in this episode was that
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kind of looks like a guitar.
Yeah, right.
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So there's still that music
thing.
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And even, again, Belinda brings
up that my parents, it's Friday
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night.
My parents are at the pub.
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My dad is going to sing.
So, you know, we still have that
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theme of music running through
this season.
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Well, it's entertainment, you
know.
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And then Toxic by Britney
Spears, Yeah.
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Yeah, I think we're still.
Yeah, as the season goes on, I
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think we'll start getting a
clearer picture of what's going
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on right now.
I think the mystery of Earth not
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existing and we find out that
these people that are on this
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mission as well have never heard
of Earth or humans.
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So it's just adding to that
mystery.
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But I like that that was really
the only thing outside of this
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episode that we got.
Everything was self-contained
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into this.
And that brings me to the
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comparisons with Midnight,
right?
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So this is very much a sequel.
And I put like sequel only in
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that it takes place in the same
literally the same planet
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hundreds of thousands of years
in the future.
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Midnight is considered and is
one of my favorite top five
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episodes of Doctor Whoever.
It's just so well done.
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It's one of those like, I
believe it was like almost a
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last minute addition to David
Tennant's last season on Doctor
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Who, and it turned out to be one
of the best ones.
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That episode did a really good
job of showing how much paranoia
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and fear a group of people can
have and how that changes
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humans, how the best types of
humans, that assistant in
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midnight turned even on the
Doctor and was like, let's get
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rid of them.
So that's what that episode did
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really well.
And I think this episode did the
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same thing while there was, I
would say these are like
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military people, right?
So they're a little more
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hardened and they're a little
more like, I will do what you
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tell me to do.
I still think showing that fear
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and not really knowing what's
happening can change people.
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Yeah, I thought that that that
sense of paranoia was definitely
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palpable in both of these
episodes.
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And, you know, as I was watching
Midnight, I'd seen it for the
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first time.
One of the things that really
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stuck out to me was how, you
know, first of all, it all takes
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place in just this one vehicle,
right?
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Which that's great writing when
you can make that much paranoia.
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And that much happened for 40
something minutes in one set
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piece.
And non-stop.
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Right.
And so that's really fantastic.
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So that was written by Russell T
Davies.
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This is also written as a Co
writer by Russell T Davies.
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But something that struck stuck
out to me at Midnight was that
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there was this kind of power
play that I saw it towards the
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end of the episode where it felt
very much like how angry white
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people can stir an entire
movement of paranoia towards
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against one person.
And the people of color need to
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struggle to try and regain
control and stop them from doing
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that.
And in this one, it felt a
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little more like that paranoia
again, but there was that power
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dynamic.
It felt more like between almost
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like men and women, right?
Of like when we have this kind
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of second in command character,
Cassio, who automatically keeps
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pushing against their captain,
who was really fantastic.
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You know what I mean?
They were incredible.
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Shia, I believe, is the name of
the character.
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And so again, we see this power
struggle, we see this dynamic,
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we see this reflection of of
kind of what we see in society.
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And I think both episodes did
that well, but in different
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ways.
In this one, it's a definitely a
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little more intense.
The set is a lot bigger.
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There's a lot more people at
play here and there's a bigger
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mystery.
I feel we're we're walking into
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the mystery, whereas the other
one, the mystery, we kind of are
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along for the ride with the
characters.
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Yeah, Missus Sylvester and
Midnight was very much the
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subject of paranoia and the
person that was repeating, and I
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love the whole sequence.
And then the repeating caught
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up, and then it was taking the
voice in this one, it was we got
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to see a different side of the
entity, if that even is the same
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entity, right?
We don't necessarily know.
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It could be, it could not be.
It's been hundreds of years.
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Are we supposed to assume it's
the same entity?
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Probably.
But this one more played on.
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I can't really see what's there.
I know there's something there
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behind you.
And then as soon as you go to
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try to perceive it, it kills you
automatically.
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I don't know how it kills you.
It just like crushes you and
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throws you in the air.
Terrifying, but you know, if
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this is a clock face, you die at
midnight.
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I think that was just such
clever writing to be like just
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calling back to the name of the
planet.
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If we're going to say like if
you ever try to perceive
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somebody from behind, I mean,
and shoot you with that booty,
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it's like Killa all right,
enough within shooty's booty.
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All right, but I.
Couldn't stop staring at it.
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There.
I said it.
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I couldn't stop staring at it.
It was beautiful.
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It was glorious.
You know, he's just he's just
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working it.
Anyway, sorry, I think this
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there's also a comparison for
these two episodes of kind of
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like childhood games, right?
It feels like in in, in the in
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midnight, it feels very much
like when someone's parroting
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you.
Whereas in this one, it's almost
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like a red light, green light
thing.
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Like if you get caught at the
wrong time then you're out,
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you're going to die.
One of the things I also liked.
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So I actually watched the well
before I watched Midnight As.
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Soon as we saw, I said, Derek,
you need to watch Midnight.
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Absolutely.
And so there was that point in
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this episode where the doctor is
talking.
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He's he's very close to Alice
and Alice and he, there's a
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close up of his face and his
eyes are really wide and he
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starts to cry.
It's when he realizes who he's
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dealing with.
And that is such a callback to
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Midnight, where the doctor is
stuck in that Crouch.
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He's absolutely frozen, and his
eyes are so wide.
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It's like you can see that he's
losing control of who he is.
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But on the inside, he knows
what's going on.
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What's so terrifying about this
specific entity with Midnight is
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that it was one of the few
Preachers entities whatever to
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defeat the Doctor.
The Doctor didn't even beat this
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entity twice.
Both times people had to
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sacrifice themselves and the
Doctor got out of it.
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And so that's what is so scary
about this.
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And that's why when the Doctor
found out that this, wait, this
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had the surface was made out of
diamonds, what was this planet
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called?
Midnight.
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That's why he got so scared and
ran back to where Alice was.
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And I think very few creatures
or entities have the honor, I
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guess, of saying I could be the
Doctor and I know the Doctor's
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name.
So This is why it's so scary
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because we also know nothing
about this entity.
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And I was really worried.
I, I did hear rumors that this
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was going to be a Midnight
sequel.
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There was rumors that it might
be a Waters and Mars sequel.
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And I was like, OK, those are
some big episodes to fill.
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And that worried me because I
don't think Midnight needed a
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sequel.
This is the best we can come to
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for a sequel for something like
that because we still don't know
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anything and I'm very happy
about.
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That and it feels like more of a
companion episode rather than a
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sequel, right?
It's not the same storyline.
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It's just taking place on the
same planet.
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And I think, like you're saying
that was a good choice, right?
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Especially if an episode is so
beloved, you know, let's not
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marred up by trying to change
the storyline or continue it.
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Yeah, and that episode was so
well perceived that I believe it
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was made into a limited stage
run.
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So it's cool all people just in
the same thing because it's such
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a small cast and it's really
just the people that are driving
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the pot and the paranoia.
OK, on the subject of Alice,
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which I think absolutely
breakout performance, an all
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timer for a guest appearance
performance by this actor, the
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use of assistive technology.
So freaking cool.
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Leave it to Doctor Who,
especially in this new revival
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run with Russell D Davies, to
like have more, I guess,
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assistive technology, but also
like including people with with
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impairments or disabilities.
I really loved the use of just
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like a real time caption device.
Why don't we have that now?
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I know well there are, there is
some technology being developed
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more like glasses and things
that can do that, which is just
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incredible.
And I mean, just think of how
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communication can change and how
travel can change and how
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inclusive we could be if
something like that did exist
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and if we were all willing to
have something like that, which
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whatever anyway.
And, and I think that there's
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also a point being made here
where they turn it off when they
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don't want Alice to know what
they're saying.
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And so they are choosing to
exclude her from the
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conversation.
And granted, it happens because
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they're trying to figure out
what's going on.
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They don't know if she's truly
trustworthy.
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But in reality, there is just
something being said here about
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how we are include and exclude
people with disabilities in our
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lives and society and
conversations.
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And on purpose.
And on purpose, exactly because
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it's too much trouble, quote UN
quote, you know, to to wear
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something on you that could
help.
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You know, I also like that in
this episode we see someone with
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a limb difference.
One of our troopers has a limb
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difference, which is really
incredible.
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I mean, just all around this
episode just shows how well
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Doctor Who is included, like
just how good it is at
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inclusivity.
Yeah, yeah, I loved.
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I don't know why this is like
such a funny coincidence, but
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the actor that played Alice's
name Rose, their real name is
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Rose, which just goes back to
this is David Tennant's like era
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the sequel which also had to do
with Rose and she doesn't make
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an appearance on ATV screen
behind him.
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And I don't know, it's just like
such a weird coincidence that
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only Doctor Who could have.
Absolutely.
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What did you think of?
So I'm kind of going back and
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forth on this, right.
One of the reasons that it seems
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that Alice has survived is
because of her her deafness.
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And so it's like, oh, well, you
can't hear it.
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But I was kind of hoping that in
a way, it wasn't going to be the
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thing that saved her.
It was just going to be a part
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of her.
But then it became part of the
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plot.
What did you think of that?
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I don't know if that's
necessarily true though, because
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I mean, OK, if it's behind you,
right, it latches on.
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This is a little different than
what we saw in midnight and
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Midnight kind of just possessed
and this one, it just more
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latched on.
I don't know if that's evolution
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or just what it really does, but
I think the doctor had said, and
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I could be wrong, he said that's
might that might be how you
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survived because you're just not
hearing it.
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But I don't know if just hearing
it really does anything to you,
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you know what I mean?
Because like regardless, if you
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go behind and you try to
perceive the monster, you're
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dead anyway.
So I think that's just like
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added to like, maybe that's why
she didn't lose her mind almost
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because it was whispering to
her.
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I I hope, right, that that's how
I read it because I was like,
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oh, I don't think they really
made it like her deafness saved
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her.
But that's also not a bad thing.
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I guess in that light, you know,
it's like, oh, yeah.
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Because because she happened to
be deaf, it did end up helping
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her.
I did like the added effect of,
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you know, this the reflection,
right?
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It didn't want to see its own
reflection because I would
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defeat itself using the mercury
waterfall.
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Oh, that just looks so cool.
This whole set, just everything,
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the visual effects really just
like peak.
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And I think when you have like
this big budget like this and
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you have performance like this.
Oh, the performance is just
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shine so much.
But yeah, I think her sorry, I
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didn't mean to like segue from
that, but I I think her deafness
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was I don't think it was used as
like a plot device.
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I think it just added to the
story.
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All right, that's fair.
I appreciate that.
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But yeah, I agree that mercury
waterfall was so cool.
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And again, this is something
that they did with a lighter
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hand than they do sometimes.
Learning that Shia is an amazing
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shot, right?
It kind of just happened in the
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scene before and then the doctor
realized it.
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It wasn't like, you know, oh,
you were an incredible Marx
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person.
You know, it wasn't like over
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explained in any way.
It was something that happened
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and then it was used to, you
know, defeat the monster.
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Yeah, I so before we get to like
kind of like the end of the
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episode of wrapping up a review,
there's two scenes in particular
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that I really want to talk about
that I think really stand out.
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While I like the clock facing
scene, which I'm going to say is
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when everybody was in that room
in a circle and I loved, loved
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when the entity was killing
them, that they're replacing
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them as numbers on the clock,
which just, you know, it's just
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so cool.
But there's two scenes that I
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think we're so, so, so good is
when they're going to the escape
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pods or going to the things that
get them back up there and the
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entity possesses them again,
right?
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So you have Alice and the two
other troopers that go, right?
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And then you have the doctor,
you have MO, you have Belinda,
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and you have Shia, and the
entity comes back and possesses
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one of them.
The amount of fear and trying to
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figure out who is possessed in
that scene.
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And then it ended up being
Belinda.
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Then Shia had to use her shots
to shoot Belinda, and then they
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had to revive her.
And then Shia sacrifices herself
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in this scene.
Do you think because we find out
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that MO, possibly, I don't know
if it's just because they're
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paranoid, actually was the one
possessed?
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Do you think that Belinda was
shot for no reason and Shia
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sacrificed herself for no
reason?
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Absolutely, 100%.
I do.
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Absolutely, I do.
Yeah.
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That was definitely a bummer
because Shia was I, I really
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warmed up to Shia.
I really liked them.
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I thought they were a fantastic
leader.
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I thought that they were smart,
level headed and to see them
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sacrifice themselves, it felt
like, OK, it's a poetic way to
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go out, but for it to be for
naughty, that was a bummer.
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You know, I think Belinda had to
be shot in order for Shia to
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then be, what are we saying
inhabited, latched on by, you
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know, grabbed on by the by the
entity.
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So that made sense.
But I think that Shia definitely
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sacrifice himself in vain.
Unfortunately, I'm curious if I,
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I I want to believe that Belinda
was was latched onto possessed
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in the beginning, but I think
when it when it showed the wind
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go across Shia's face, I think
then it went to MO just to mess
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with them.
Like I I'm not sure that Shia
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ever was actually possessed.
I think it just went straight to
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MO and that I just think that
might be this entity is smarter
443
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,320
than we believe.
I mean, it knows the doctor's
444
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,160
name, you know, it's been inside
the doctor's head.
445
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,800
So I don't think it's dumb.
I just, you know, that's just
446
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,960
like peak Doctor Who of just
like devastating, like, Oh no,
447
00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:12,920
like that's that sucks.
At least Shia doesn't know the
448
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,320
truth right?
And their sacrifice, they
449
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,800
believe they did it and solved
the issue and saved everyone.
450
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,600
So there's that poetic justice.
But but that scene with the
451
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:24,480
poetic.
Justice.
452
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,320
That scene it it with the four
of them in kind of like the
453
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,640
escape pod room is again, felt
like a call back to midnight,
454
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,600
right?
It's a smaller encapsulated
455
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,680
space.
Something is in there with them
456
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,520
and they're trying to figure out
what's going on.
457
00:23:38,120 --> 00:23:40,040
But yeah, that was a bummer when
Belinda got shot.
458
00:23:40,360 --> 00:23:43,680
Yeah, I mean, Yikes.
You know, having her get shot.
459
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,840
She was shot.
You know, she looked like she
460
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,760
was hurt.
I did like that in this episode,
461
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,600
we saw Belinda Belinda's a
nurse, right?
462
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,120
And loves being a nurse and
loves caring for people, and we
463
00:23:55,120 --> 00:23:59,400
saw her step into action.
I like that she's not a fearful
464
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,520
companion, that she's willing to
get in there and help people.
465
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,080
This is the second time we've
seen her do this.
466
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,120
We saw her do it in the first
episode and now in this episode
467
00:24:07,120 --> 00:24:09,600
as well.
Yeah, she, I love the just the
468
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,360
tension of the entire scene, the
doctors with the leaders and
469
00:24:12,360 --> 00:24:13,720
stuff and trying to figure out
the well.
470
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,840
And then Belinda's there trying
to care for this person while
471
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,200
also being paranoid and seeing
something, but not really seeing
472
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,560
something.
And like trying to figure out
473
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,400
this alien technology or this
alien medicine, but also being
474
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,000
confused by nobody knows what
Earth is.
475
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,720
So there's just a lot of moving
parts here.
476
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,440
And I think Varadasath, who did
such an amazing job of balancing
477
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,440
all of that.
Absolutely, I will say.
478
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,440
So there's something I went back
to look at it.
479
00:24:38,120 --> 00:24:42,240
I'm more convinced that the
entity went back up with the
480
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,880
first people because when you
look at the thing that says how
481
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,640
many people are in the thing,
because it only says 6 people
482
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,360
can be in at a time.
It says 4, but there was only
483
00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:53,840
three of them that we could see
they're staying.
484
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,880
I think it was still attached to
maybe Alyssa.
485
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,240
Wow, yeah.
And now so it's just on the
486
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,320
ship.
So that leaves it up to just,
487
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,440
it's still there.
So we either have the potential
488
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,520
for a sequel or, I don't know,
it's just out there.
489
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,560
And is there something to be
said that maybe there's more
490
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,520
than one entity?
We don't know anything about
491
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,320
this.
Is it a Pantheon member?
492
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,880
Was it trapped there in the
diamonds for a reason?
493
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,280
I don't know who.
Knows does it crawl on our all
494
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:23,760
fours?
Is it bipedal?
495
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,040
I don't know.
It's kind of like creeping
496
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,040
around the corner, you know,
just they just gave you.
497
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,440
Glimpses.
The thing about it, though, is
498
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,120
like they gave you glimpses of
something.
499
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,720
You couldn't make it out, you
know, we got that very brief
500
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,600
shadowy thing which I think is
the most we've ever seen of this
501
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,800
entity.
But like, I don't want I I it
502
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:45,040
was so frustrating because when
you saw it behind Alyssa, it was
503
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,680
like you couldn't your brain
just it was too fast.
504
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,600
Like I was like, ah, there was
something it.
505
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,480
Was kind of funny, right, That
it would kind of just be like,
506
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,720
and then it would disappear
again.
507
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,720
Like it was like, it was like
playing with everyone.
508
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:00,880
It's like I'm here.
Yeah.
509
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,920
You can't do anything.
It's just like what is
510
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,800
happening?
What is it showing itself so
511
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,080
much?
Yeah, I think I might have.
512
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,840
You said you had two scenes.
You wanted to talk.
513
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,240
About I kind of talked about
them both in the oh, OK, OK, OK.
514
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,000
It was then MO up in the ship
and having that conversation
515
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,280
with the other person that was
on their team.
516
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,800
Because we didn't really see
anything behind MO.
517
00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:25,400
And I'm more convinced that
maybe it's still attached to
518
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,200
Alyssa, which is really sad
because she has a daughter and
519
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,440
she just wants to get back home.
Oh, Alice, Alice.
520
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,160
Alice, am I saying Alyssa?
Yes, yes.
521
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,680
You guys know what I'm talking
about.
522
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,520
Sorry, Alice.
And you know, I it might still
523
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,360
be attached to her, but I'm I
think the paranoia just
524
00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:45,000
continued with them and they're
just fearful of it, which is
525
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:50,040
another layer of just kind of
you know, but this episode
526
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,320
wouldn't be complete without
missus flood appearance.
527
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,640
What I just and she's after the
vindicator or she wants to know
528
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,600
more about it.
She said that's what I feared.
529
00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:04,200
So what?
And what's this felt more like
530
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:09,760
Susan Twist in the way that like
she's not just misses Flood kind
531
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,840
of appearing in places she's
taking on.
532
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,560
It's almost like she has her own
TARDIS, right, where she can
533
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,840
change her clothes and be a part
of the the group that's there.
534
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,360
Because she kind of looked like
she was from the 50s in Miami
535
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,720
and now she had a uniform on
when MO was talking to her.
536
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,360
So that's interesting.
Right.
537
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,840
I mean, yeah, I I have no idea.
She she can time travel with
538
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,040
them.
She's always there either in the
539
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,000
beginning or the end of their
episode or their story.
540
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,000
So that's weird.
And she does seem like a Susan
541
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,160
twist.
Like now that you say that, that
542
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:43,280
is kind of interesting that now
she's kind of taking the place
543
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,360
of Susan twist because do that
in the first season she didn't
544
00:27:46,360 --> 00:27:49,280
really appear in places like
that.
545
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:54,080
She was always with Ruby's
apartment around there, so she
546
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,480
wasn't necessarily anywhere else
aside from the end of the
547
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:58,880
season.
She was on the rooftop and all
548
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,640
the all white.
So this is weird.
549
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,360
It was almost like they liked
the Susan twist thing and was
550
00:28:04,360 --> 00:28:07,320
like, OK, let's make Misses
Flood kind of take that.
551
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,600
But I I.
Think the difference is that the
552
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,920
Susan Twist character was more
of like a a Belinda in the sense
553
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,560
that she just kind of existed in
these different timelines,
554
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,720
whereas this seems like Missus
Flood is following them and keep
555
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,080
track of them and knows exactly
what's going on.
556
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,240
Right?
It is Missus Flood.
557
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,280
It's not multiple different
Susan's, you know.
558
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,240
Yeah, I have no idea.
I don't.
559
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,320
I mean, there's so many theories
that it could be whoever it is.
560
00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:35,200
I don't know at this point.
I just want to wait and see.
561
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,000
Yeah.
So I mean.
562
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,320
The question is, what is Russell
T Davies saying about old women?
563
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,440
That they can.
Act and they deserve a job, you
564
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,480
know.
No, he's saying that.
565
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,760
They're going to take over the
world and bring us all down.
566
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,640
Yeah, sure.
That's if that's if Misses Flood
567
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,680
is actually bad.
We still don't know.
568
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,720
She's not really done anything
bad.
569
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,000
I don't know.
I don't trust her.
570
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,160
She's just commentating.
What she's doing all right.
571
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,520
We should Maybe.
Maybe she's a scorned companion.
572
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:04,800
Maybe.
Right.
573
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,920
She could be, Or she's the
doctor's granddaughter.
574
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,880
Oh my.
God, we still never got.
575
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,240
Anything off of that, they were
right there.
576
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,600
I don't know, It's it's too
convenient.
577
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,600
Still mysteries.
Abound.
578
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,720
Absolutely.
OK, well.
579
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:21,560
Let us know what you thought of
the well.
580
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,520
Was it everything you hoped for?
Did you like it?
581
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:25,640
Did you not like it?
Did it hit?
582
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,280
Did it not hit?
Would you wear one of those
583
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:30,840
space outfits?
I know I would.
584
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,720
Just to feel nice.
Just to feel pretty.
585
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,000
Yeah.
All right, Till next time.
586
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,360
Bye.