‘Loki’ Season 2 Episode 6 Glorious Purpose | Marvel

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Hey, I'm Derek.
And I'm Noah, and you're

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listening to A Bite Of where we
take our current favorite pop

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culture obsession and we enjoy
it. 1 nibble at a time 1 nibble.

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This is the final nibble.
It's the last nibble of Loki

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forever.
No, I can't.

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I won't accept it.
You may live in denial if it

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helps you get through the day.
You're back.

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I'm back.
Yeah, you weren't on the last

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episode.
I wasn't the amazing Ron was on

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the last episode.
I listened to it on the ride

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back from my conference and I
was very impressed.

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Oh, you because of me.
Yeah, because of the both of

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you.
You guys are both very smart.

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And also you said my name three
times, so I felt famous.

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I like how that's what you
counted as you're driving.

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You're like, Yep, one I was
driving and I was like, oh,

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that's me.
They know who I am.

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So I'll ask you if you have
anything to add about Episode 5

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when we, like, do the spoiler
warning and everything, just in

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case there's some people you
know two episodes behind.

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Yeah, that way, you know, our
listeners can just, I guess if

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you have anything to say about
Episode 5 before leading, I have

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so much to say about Episode 5.
Surprise.

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This is episode five.
You didn't.

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couple days after this episode
drops you.

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Every time you're miming it
throws me off.

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Only the people who are watching
it know what I'm doing.

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I'm just adding emphasis to
everything what you're saying.

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That way you're not just staring
right at me, all the

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announcements.
OK, OK, OK, OK, lots to talk

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about.
It's the finale.

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Let's take a look back.
Yes, all right, so taking a look

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back at Loki Season 2, Episode 5
Science Fiction, after the loom

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goes boom, Loki finds himself
Slippity sliding from branch to

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branch, catching up.
Dang it.

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I did this myself.
Loki finds himself Slippity

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sliding from branch to branch,
catching up with his old buddies

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in their new ish lives.
Casey escapes the Clink B-15 is

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the dock on the scene.
Mobius calls for his kid, Kevin,

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and OBAD writes less famous.
To be or not to be, sort of.

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Sylvie gives Loki the brush off
until her favorite record shop

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spins into spaghetti.
Obad builds a keyboard size 10

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pad, and the gang reunites.
Just as they once again find

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themselves turning to
Tagliatelli.

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Loki gets a hold on his time
slipping and knows he has a

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chance to go back and try try
again.

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Bravo, that was.
This is that's the last summary

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that you're going to do for
Loki, because we don't have a

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confirmation of a Season 3 ever
again.

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Ever.
Again.

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Bravo, Tagatelli.
Oh my God, Tagliatelli.

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One is hard to say, but also
great reference in that you

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know, when I heard you read my
synopsis from last week, I

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realized that I missed the
opportunity to use Tagliatelli,

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so I had to take it now and do
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You did.
You did it.

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So spoiler warning for Loki as a
series, MCU comic.

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Cannon all that stuff.
So you've been warned.

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We don't want to officially
prune you from the timeline for

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spoiling.
All right, Let us officially

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take a Bite of Loki Season 2
Episode 6.

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Glorious purpose.
Sounds familiar?

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Very familiar.
Season one, episode one.

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Glorious purpose.
I'm also calling this episode

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Loom, Doom Destiny and the
after.

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Real fun, yeah.
I like that you just wanted to

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do loom and doom together and
then the D from doom goes to

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destiny and then the after just
sounds like, Oh my gosh, which

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it was.
So what are your initial

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thoughts of the assumingly
series finale of Loki?

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OK, so I have, I don't want to
say a problem, but these last

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two episodes, I feel like in
both episodes the same thing

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just kept happening over and
over again.

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To be fair, I think this one it
should have agreed.

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But just coming from the episode
before this where it just felt

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like more spaghetti, more time
slipping, and then we get

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another one where it is supposed
to happen, it felt like, oh,

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we're just doing the same thing
over and over again.

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However, I think the payoff in
this one was well worth it.

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OK, what do you think?
I loved it.

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I, you know, I I mean, I could
literally just watch them talk

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in a room, which is most of this
season.

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I loved it.
I think this is.

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Should I say it now?
Yeah, whatever.

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It is my all time favorite
series for the MCU.

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It's just beat out all the other
ones, but you're putting the two

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seasons together, yes, as a
series.

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Yes, I mean that's right.
We don't have any other second

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season, so I kind of have to put
them together, rub it in, Noah,

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take that, she Hulk.
Well, you know, I'm wearing my

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spirit tea of Loki.
So you did wait on line for

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almost an hour at Comic Con to
get that spirit?

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Tea.
I really did.

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Well deserved, yeah.
I think Loki would appreciate

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it.
He would, but he would also just

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slip to the front of the line
and just take someone else's

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spot.
We don't all have time slipping

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abilities so I had to literally
wait in line for over an hour

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for it but it was well worth it.
Favorite series that the MC us.

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But I think as a whole, it just
thinking back on the first

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season and how they wrote a
second season to almost

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literally mirror the first
season to this one and then the

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pay off of the entire story, I
mean.

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I'm not.
I I put this on social media.

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But I'm like, not exaggerating.
This was years of character

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development.
And I mean, it just paid off in

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the most glorious way.
I loved it.

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I I think Loki is the best
character in the MCU as far as

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character development and where
that character started and where

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it's gone.
I just, you know, I loved it.

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He's he's definitely had a
journey.

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An interesting thing that I
thought of for some reason was

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when Captain America went back
in time and just lived his life

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with Peggy and like.
And I felt like when that

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happened, everybody was like,
oh, he's all, that's ridiculous.

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But it was like, no, it made
sense.

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That's what how he wanted to
live his life.

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And that was like the first time
we saw someone like travel

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through time and stay traveling
through time.

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And so now we're here with Loki
and the entire thing is about

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time travel.
So it was like we got that

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little seed with Captain America
and obviously that entire arc

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where they were going back and
getting all the stones to this

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whole series.
And really in this last episode,

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how many times did he travel
back in time?

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I mean, we we may never know.
Thousands.

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Hundreds of thousands.
And even spent centuries in one

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part of time to learn all of, I
don't know, science.

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And theoretical physics, by the
way.

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There you go.
But I mean it even with that.

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How many times did he have to
travel back to then learn stuff?

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Because, I mean, how is he going
to sit there for 100 years with

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somebody when the TVA is about
to explode, so like.

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How did that even work?
Like, did he just keep going

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back to Obi or did he go further
back and he's like, can you just

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sit with me for 400 years?
In my mind, he, like, found this

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is the wrong name.
But like, he found like,

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Aristotle.
And he was like, hey, Aristotle,

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I'm Loki.
Can you teach me everything you

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know?
Definitely the wrong name.

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Hey Pluto philosopher, Hello
Machiavelli.

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No, Casey Casey and Obie Casey.
Yeah, I, Casey and Obie

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definitely are the ones that
taught him that.

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But I don't think so.
He literally asked him to teach

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him.
What do you mean?

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In my mind he was sitting with
old men with long.

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Beards.
Absolutely not.

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It's definitely them.
So this episode I think.

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Initially, like, when you're
experiencing it, it's kind of

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jarring, right?
Because he's going back in time,

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he's time slipping.
He's going to events and doing

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them multiple times.
And we're seeing scenes that we

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literally just saw either in
episode 4 or episode 5.

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And it's wild and frantic.
And there's there's some scenes

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where I was like, OK, we've seen
this one like a little too many

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times.
I guess he's going to turn into

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the pocket.
It's not going to work.

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But I didn't like as it went on
with his time slipping.

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That like there was like a scene
where he's, it's one of the

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final ones where it works with
Victor Timely and he's putting

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stuff together and he's like
putting stuff in the computer

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and he's kind of saying Mobius's
sentence before he said he's

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like, haha, yeah, real funny
guy.

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And it's like, it's so funny.
I like how they still slipped in

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some of those little quips in
there.

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I liked in that scene in
particular, how he was at the

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computer and he was the one
typing things into the keyboard.

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That's how much he knew.
Now that's how many times he's

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practiced.
Yeah, he like pushed.

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OB out of the out of the Way.
I also liked in the scene with

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The Loom, kind of seeing as it
went further.

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Oh, it almost worked this time.
Oh, timely, got a little further

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out this time.
Oh, like that was kind of

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exciting to see in The pace was
really picking up.

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But then when he spent the
century learning everything and

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then coming back, he was just a
know it all.

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Yeah, he just put everything
together real quick.

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I loved, I loved the whole
concept of this episode, right

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In this whole series, it all
plays with time.

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The logo in the beginning was
all reversed.

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It was fantastic.
I love how they play with those

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little elements in here.
Noah was fully panicked when the

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Loki O was just left standing.
He was just like, oh, at the

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end.
At the end, yeah, he's just

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like, why?
Why?

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Yeah, I sat through the entire
credits, 'cause I'm like, I'm

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waiting for them to confirm
season three.

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They did not and they still have
not.

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Eric Martin, the writer and
producer for the show, has said

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that he there's like, no plans
for season three.

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OK, fine.
It was funny.

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At the end of the first season,
we weren't looking to have a

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Season 2, not in a bad way.
We're just like, oh, that was so

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much fun.
And then it was like, Loki

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season 2, we were like, yay.
And then this one we're like,

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oh, there's got to be a season
three.

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And it was like no.
Yeah, I mean, well, we also

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waited two years for like a time
means nothing, especially in the

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MCU.
I mean, we've covered so many

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properties since the first
season of Loki and this just

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seems like yesterday.
We've covered every single MCU

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show so far.
It's like, what, 9 Beat that?

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I don't know, someone else every
single one at length, episode to

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episode of coverage.
You might even say we're taking

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a bite of each Series A week.
I thought it was really

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interesting that he gained the
ability to because what was it

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in the end of or the beginning
of the 5th episode when

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everything exploded and he was
time slipping but seeing

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himself?
Then he found a way to time slip

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back into himself.
Right, the body that's there.

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It's so cool.
He also knows how to like, bring

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himself and someone else, in
this case Sylvie, outside of

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time.
Yeah, you can stop it while

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something is happening.
Yeah, he's very powerful.

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It's insane.
So I loved.

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I loved the montage of him
trying to figure it out.

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You know, how many times did
Victor time like it turned into

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spaghetti?
A lot of times.

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But at the end of that after.
Spending centuries learning

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theoretical physics, trying it.
How many times Speeding through

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Obi's mock up design where he
couldn't even say that he didn't

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put a coat of paint on it?
It was never going to work.

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The loom can't expand fast
enough for the infinite amount

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of timelines that are being
made.

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That's why they got a prunem.
It's insane, yeah, Victor.

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Was Victor Teimler was like,
it's like dividing by zero.

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Just it can't work, Victor.
Timely.

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This would have helped if you
explained it 485,000 times ago.

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Thanks for telling us now when
it's too late.

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Well, the interesting thing
about Victor is when Loki

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eventually goes to he who
remains, he who remains talks

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about Victor timely.
And he's like, oh, is that what

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he told you So, I mean.
Does he know something that we

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don't or like?
Does he just not like Victor

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timely because he was one of the
only good ones that we've seen

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so far of Kang.
It's an interesting thing for

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him to say, but I'm like, was
did he know this whole time?

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Or like was he conning them?
He 40, does he not like it

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almost feels like he was making
fun of him in that moment

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because he does sort of mimic
the way that Victor timely talks

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and maybe because he is sort of
a not a mild mannered, but he's

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he's more of an earthling, you
know what I mean?

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He's more of a human than a lot
of the other Kang.

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So he might see him as weak,
even though he's sort of the the

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thought behind everything that
he who remains created.

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Right.
Anything else you want to

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mention with the time slipping
stuff before we get into like

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him trying to figure out
everything else?

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I just, I did think it was also
fun that we got a scene from the

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first episode ever where he's
sitting with Mobius, right?

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You know, so that was also
really cool as well.

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So he really does slip all
around the series as a whole.

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Yeah, the so when he goes to, I
like that he went to Mobius and

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he goes to Sylvia, he goes to
the two people that are like his

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confidants.
So he he goes to Mobius and he's

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pretty much asking him like how
do you make a hard decision.

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And I mean, I was expecting
Mobius because I'm so used to

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the Mobius now.
I I expected him to kind of be

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like, well, trust your instincts
and you got it, kid.

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You know, like, I don't.
I don't know why.

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I think that's why he talks.
Just trying to be good in this

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world.
Love B.

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Wow, wow.
But so this is season one Mobius

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before he knows that they're all
variants and everything like

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that.
So he tells him the story of,

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you know, during the the battle,
what was it, the Black Sea or or

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something like that.
I can't remember the actual

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battle, but.
He we can infer that it was him

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that he was talking about.
Not like a time a Minuteman was

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supposed to prune an 8 year old
that was going to kill a lot of

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people.
Thousands of people.

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He hesitated.
So then Renslayer stepped in and

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did it.
Now we know kind of why they're

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like butting heads.
He couldn't do what needed to be

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done.
But also, like, damn Renslayer,

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you just killed a child.
And that's how she has always

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seen him as the person who
paused and caused mayhem, you

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know?
So I think that she's always

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held that against him.
Poor Mobius.

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What a jerk.
And he's just like.

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But like, she's a teacher and
she had no problem pruning an 8

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year old in front of her, but
she didn't know that she was a

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teacher.
She just knows that she's there

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to prune the shit out of people.
Maybe that's why she hesitated

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with Sylvie, because if I'm not
mistaken, she hesitated with

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Sylvie and that's how Sylvie
escaped.

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Because she brought her in and
then she, like you know, took

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her temp out and then she could
have ruined her.

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She could have done something.
But then she escaped.

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So maybe there was some of that
teacher slipping through

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finally, and maybe Mobius being
mad at her at some point made

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her like this is a child.
Or maybe she just had missed

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minutes whispering in her ears.
Just let her go, darling.

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We'll see what happens.
So the after Loki's trying to

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figure everything out, right, he
goes to Mobius.

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He's like, what do I do?
How do you make a hard choice?

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The choice is right back to the
first season, the finale of the

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first season, Essentially, take
his spot or kill Sylvie or just

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let it go.
He's at this point he's like on

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the way to kill Sylvie, like
he's coming to terms with it.

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That's why he asked Mobius,
like, how do you make a really

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hard decision?
And then he talks to Sylvie

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about it.
He goes in the last episode,

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right before everybody's turning
into spaghetti.

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And he stops time and he talks
to her.

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And I loved this conversation
because it was like, it was very

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human of her because he's
telling her like, this is kind

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of what has to be done.
Tell me what to do.

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And she's like, I'm not going to
tell you to kill me, right?

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I'm not going to give you my
blessing.

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Yeah, I'm I I want to survive.
I want to live.

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So don't come to me with that.
You have to make the decision,

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so don't include me in that.
I think this is another, you

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know, this is something else to
say about a character's growth,

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right?
Where at the end of last season,

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Sylvie was so hot headed, she
knew exactly what she wanted to

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do.
She had her dagger out and she

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knew she wanted to kill he who
remains.

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But here we are.
Who knows how many months years

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later, and she could look at
Loki and have this very grown up

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conversation not fly by the seat
of her pants and say I see what

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you're saying, the only way to
stop it is to kill me.

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That's up to you.
Yeah, I'm not going to.

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I I agree with her.
Right?

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It's like I you you want to do
this, but then you want to

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replace one bad with a nut.
Like you're just not doing it.

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Like, I don't know what you want
me to tell you.

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I feel like old Silvie would
have been like, you want to try

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and take my life?
Well, I'm going to take your

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life.
And, you know, so this was just

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her standing there going, like,
cool, OK, you learned some new

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tricks.
All right, I hear what you're

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saying.
Well, if that's the way it has

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to be, that's the way it has to
be.

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But I'm not going to give you my
consent to kill me.

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So good, I agree.
Also killing yourself, Sort of.

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The person that you love
yourself, yeah.

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But I mean it.
I think it's not.

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You know, it's it's a crazy
thing to think about what Loki's

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going through right now, right?
It's like he, he spent all those

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centuries learning all this
stuff.

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It's not working.
He spent how many times trying

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to get it to work?
He went back to Mobius and

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talked to him.
He went to Sylvie and talked to

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her.
And he's like, OK, this is the

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point.
It's not making Timely go faster

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to get to it.
And he can't put as that much

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pep in his step.
He has to go back further.

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And he's like, oh, OK, maybe
it's when she killed he who

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remains.
And that's when the branches

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started.
This, like rehash of the finale

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of the last season, is insane.
So one thing that I noticed

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about this is that I'm trying to
figure out how to say this.

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The way that they shot this
scene last season, it felt like

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it was very much from the right
side of the room.

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This episode, whenever he's
talking to Kang, it's from the

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left side of the room.
Everything shot from the left

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side of the room, so it's so
weird to see that shift.

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Right.
Like inverted.

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Exactly.
And but that's the whole point,

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is that this is how we saw it
last year, but now this is how

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we see it at the end of this
finale.

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So I thought that was really
smart.

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And it was jarring to see
because we've seen that scene a

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couple of times, even in this
season, when when she pushes

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Loki up against the desk with
the knife and she's getting

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ready to kill he who remains.
We've only seen it from that

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angle, but all these new
conversations are happening from

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the other side.
That's so good.

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I I think, like, it was so
seamless too, right?

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It's like, you know, they it it
seemed like it was just a

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continuation of that season
finale because I still felt the

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same things and I remember those
conversations, right?

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It was just an insane
conversation that we were

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having.
And then what was we were left

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with?
Was the multiverse essentially

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opening up.
And in this one, Loki's trying

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to figure out a way to stop it.
And what's the best way to do

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that?
But like, having the way it was

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shot, right?
It's like you're close up on his

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face, constantly trying to get
the upper hand on Sylvie, which,

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I mean, he, like, tried to kill
her.

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How many?
How many times?

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We don't know.
But like, every single time you

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hear her saying the same thing.
You're going to have to kill me.

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You're going to have to kill me.
And she does it over and over

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again, and you hear Kang doing
nothing.

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Eating his apple.
Just sitting there watching the

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whole thing.
When it finally stops, oh, I do

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want to bring it.
So you remember in the season

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finale, the first one where he
was like, we just crossed the

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threshold and there were so many
people that were like theorizing

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like, oh, that's when like Wanda
did this thing or whatever.

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Do you think it's possible that
that threshold, because Kang

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knows or he remains knows that
this was the path that Loki was

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supposed to be on the entire
time?

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That's when he goes back like
Loki.

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Time slips to that moment.
So that was like the threshold

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of like, this is where Loki's
going to decide what he's going

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to do.
That's what I think that that

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threshold actually was.
It wasn't like Wanda or anybody

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else.
I think it was.

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That was the moment that Loki's
going to time slip back and he

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can't see what's going to
happen.

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I think that sounds definitely
more plausible.

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You know, just as a note,
overall, I feel like these

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Marvel TV shows don't really
take from, I don't know, like

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they don't take from the movies.
You know what I mean?

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It's like, yeah, we'll meet a
character after a movie, but

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like something in the movie
happening.

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I don't, I don't hasn't shown up
in a series while the series is

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happening.
Like something when Wanda

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switched the multi, you know
what I mean?

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So it just seems like it seems
more plausible that it's

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something that's just existing
in this story in this world.

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Yeah, I mean, well, it's it's
one of those things where it's

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like, there's so many theories
about what that could have been.

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But I think now we have like a
more definitive answer of like,

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it was probably when Loki was
going to create how many

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different branches from the
thousands of times he's trying

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to kill Sylvie.
And then when that finally

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breaks and he's talking to he
who remains and he's like, this

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was all supposed to happen.
Like, you know, I can stop time.

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I can do all this stuff.
And then the switch of Loki

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stopping time as well.
And it's like, oh, you you think

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this was the first time we had
this conversation, DAV?

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That, that's what got me is that
even as an as an audience

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member, we're not even aware of
everything that's happened.

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So when he said that I was like,
oh snap, he's been here before,

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that was really like as an
audience member watching that

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and be like, oh, so you're
playing tricks on us now, You're

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leaving us in the dark.
And Loki knows more than we do.

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So good, Yeah.
And you have to think about it

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too, because at first I was
like, how was he able to?

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Well, how does he have all these
temporal powers?

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It's like, oh, because he's been
using them for hundreds of

447
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,320
years.
Of course, he's going to figure

448
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,400
out how to use them more than
what he thought he could do.

449
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:00,480
He's very.
Strong.

450
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:01,720
He's very strong.
He's very strong.

451
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,840
He's very small.
He's not just a trick to God

452
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,840
anymore.
We know what the fail safe was,

453
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:12,680
it was the loom the whole time.
So literally, the loom exploding

454
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,760
and deleting all the branches is
what it's meant to do.

455
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,800
Oh my God, thanks for nothing
timely.

456
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,240
I know, I think on the last
episode Ron and I were

457
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,560
theorizing about what the fail
safe is and everything.

458
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,400
And Ron had said, what if Loki
himself was the fail safe.

459
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,000
So I think Ron had the correct
idea of thinking that the fail

460
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,440
safe wasn't actually what was
saying was being done.

461
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,200
But thinking now that we know
the loom is the fail safe.

462
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,560
And then on the monitor it's
like thank you for your service.

463
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,480
It's because they're telling him
like it's going to be reset.

464
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,760
Like bye.
It's so crazy.

465
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,480
It was so crazy.
I I just feel like this one got

466
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,520
so twisty, timey, wimey and
everything.

467
00:23:55,560 --> 00:24:00,080
The way it kind of culminated
was like, oh, OK, so I feel like

468
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,560
we were all almost there, but we
didn't get it.

469
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,040
I right.
And I think that Loki had to go

470
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:11,080
on that journey to like, finally
figure out like, oh, like.

471
00:24:12,360 --> 00:24:16,840
It is always my destiny to fail.
It is my destiny to do this type

472
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,160
of thing.
Him coming to like that

473
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:24,440
conclusion of, oh, I can't kill
Sylvie to save everything.

474
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,720
I have to take on the burden of
that purpose and and like that

475
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,280
really, Harkins back to the
conversation that he has with

476
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,840
Mobius, because the burden isn't
killing Sophie.

477
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,960
The burden is almost in a way,
sacrificing yourself.

478
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,600
Sophie, what did I say?
You said her real name.

479
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,160
I was like.
Who's oh, Sophie?

480
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,280
Sylvie.
Sylvie.

481
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,480
The Burden isn't killing.
Well, no, the Burden isn't

482
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,720
killing Sylvie.
The Burden is taking it all on

483
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,720
to himself.
And even Kang says something

484
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,240
that is alluding to what we see
later on.

485
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,920
He says something like the
person in the big chair is the

486
00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:04,400
one that holds all the power and
it's just like, oh.

487
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,080
I just like.
I hate.

488
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,640
I love it.
I hate that.

489
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,320
Like in the first season, Loki's
like, I don't want a throne.

490
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,160
I don't want all this and his
whole way back to the beginning

491
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,760
when he's he was coming up.
He's talking about how it's his

492
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,200
birthright and everything.
He was right the entire time.

493
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,120
It's just not the throne he
thought it would be.

494
00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:26,960
Well, it's very much Alanis
Morissette's definition of

495
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:32,680
ironic in the sense that all he
wanted to do was save his

496
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,800
friends, right.
And so at for a moment, he

497
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,920
thinks I actually have to kill
one of my friends to save the

498
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,360
rest of my friends.
But what ends up happening is

499
00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:44,080
that, yes, it's it's like the
Twilight Zone.

500
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,640
It's like, yeah, you can save
all your friends, but you can't

501
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:48,680
be with them.
Right.

502
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,680
I mean, there's like I guess
some satisfaction in knowing

503
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,520
that like you did it, but like
you don't actually get to have

504
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:03,480
any of the funk like.
Outcome of that him coming to

505
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,520
the conclusion of everything, he
who remains still being like,

506
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,200
you know, you'll see me again
and blah blah.

507
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,600
And he was right.
We're going to actually see him

508
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,720
again because we did in the
season finale of this one.

509
00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:17,880
I was like thinking back and I'm
like, they really did.

510
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,800
It was a loop regardless,
because somebody got pruned in

511
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,440
the same episode, that episode
in the first season.

512
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,000
They went to here.
It was all just replaying what

513
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,760
was happening, especially after
thing reset.

514
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,360
And I love that Loki came to the
conclusion, one that like, I

515
00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:38,720
have to be the one to do this,
but the only way to stop you is

516
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,520
to break the equation all
together.

517
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,160
And what a glorious breaking as
well as I like.

518
00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:52,000
This is why this whole scene of
him becoming Loki, who is always

519
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,920
supposed to be the God of
stories, whatever you want to

520
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,280
call him.
This is that moment that I was

521
00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:02,720
like, this is so worth it.
They did give us one final

522
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:07,360
glorious hair flip before he
goes out onto that gangway.

523
00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:12,760
When he lands down there he goes
full plie all the way down.

524
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,320
He freaking rockets that hair
back.

525
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,440
And he said this is my glorious
purpose.

526
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,640
And we said yes.
Loki, you stupid bitch.

527
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:25,000
And then he gets in high drag.
Oh my God, what a bisexual

528
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,280
bitch.
I understand him.

529
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,880
Also, the moment then he's going
down there, right?

530
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,200
He goes down there.
Everybody's like, what are you

531
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,480
doing?
I'm very confused.

532
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,720
He locks the doors and then
Mobius and Sylvia are both at

533
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,960
the doors.
And he's like, I'm doing this

534
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,720
for you.
I'm doing this for all of you.

535
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,400
This is what I'm doing it for.
But we don't know who he's

536
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,880
saying that to.
His Both of his loves are right

537
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,600
there.
All right, this is one of my

538
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:57,760
major bones I have to pick.
OK, how dare you give us a

539
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,080
canonically bisexual Loki and
the MCU.

540
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:06,440
We see him kiss his sister self,
but we see the actual love of

541
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,280
his life.
He gives a gentleman's handshake

542
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,600
to.
Are you fucking kidding me?

543
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,480
They're like, yeah, he's
bisexual.

544
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:19,080
Wink, give me a kiss now we'll
never see it 'cause he's sitting

545
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:24,200
on his gold throne.
That's it's MCUBS.

546
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,400
We'll never get Lokias.
And you know what?

547
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:33,920
That hashtag was trending OK.
I think there's a lot of people

548
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,000
right.
There's a lot of people that

549
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,760
like didn't want it.
People were fine with like

550
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,520
Sylvie and Mobius.
You know triples exist.

551
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,440
They can do that.
I mean he literally will get a

552
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,800
little bit of both.
It is sad.

553
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,440
But I didn't like I am a sucker
for like the Ambuke.

554
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,240
Oh my God.
I knew I was going to mess up.

555
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,000
I'm figuiously gay duo.
Yeah, you're right.

556
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,560
They'll return in tights.
Both of them together.

557
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,240
But I did like that you didn't
know who he was talking to.

558
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,680
I mean, I think in general he's
talking to all of them because

559
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,320
they're all his friends, but
those two are really like, those

560
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:08,840
are the people that he was doing
it for.

561
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,920
He always wanted a family.
He got a family, but he had to

562
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:18,600
sacrifice himself for them.
Yeah, the luck.

563
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,840
Oh, the luck.
The moment at first when it was

564
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,480
all going off, I thought he was
D aging.

565
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:25,600
I thought we were getting like
a.

566
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,840
We're getting a Benjamin Biddo,
not Benjamin Biddo.

567
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,440
That's our friend Benjamin
Button.

568
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,960
He was, yes.
He was our best friend's son.

569
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,400
Oh my gosh.
But yeah, I I thought that's

570
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,120
what was happening.
And I was like, oh, are we

571
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,160
getting kid Loki is Young
Avengers happening?

572
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,360
But we didn't.
And we got a costume.

573
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,000
We got a costume review for
Loki.

574
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,120
Those horns.
Just kept going, Oh my God, they

575
00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:00,520
weren't going in, he said.
I got a Cape too, bitch.

576
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,960
Derek.
When we first watched this,

577
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,880
Derek fell asleep, was tired,
fell asleep.

578
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:11,440
I was freaking the fuck out on
the couch and I was like, what

579
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,200
horns.
Oh my God, the Cape.

580
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,600
What is happening?
And I looked over it and I'm

581
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:22,000
like, I I do wish I was awake,
because there's nothing like

582
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,560
experiencing something glorious
with someone so you could both

583
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,560
feed off of each other's energy.
Because when I re watched it

584
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:34,440
today, I was like, but I was by
myself and it was sad.

585
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,000
So I was too.
So I guess we both watched it.

586
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,400
Byers, that's karma, Derek.
Deal with it.

587
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:47,400
It's so good, Loki taking, He
explodes everything, expands all

588
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:52,040
the time.
Things with the timelines and

589
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,840
grabs all of them.
Walks up invisible steps, takes

590
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,760
them somewhere else.
Sits on his golden throne that

591
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,600
is made of the decaying body of
He who remains.

592
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,560
Well, that's where he's sitting.
No, it literally the gold went

593
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,080
over him.
Did it?

594
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,240
Yes.
I didn't see that he sat on the

595
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,320
bones of the deceased.
That's fine.

596
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,560
He won.
Yeah, it was pretty glorious.

597
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,520
What a freaking way to go out
and then.

598
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:23,000
He makes the timelines look like
Idris El.

599
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,960
Well, the the world Tree, the
respect he has for his people.

600
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,560
It's just so freaking cool.
He did all of this to give his

601
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:37,880
friends time to figure shit out,
but he gave them a lifeboat.

602
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:43,560
And I mean, what a fantastic arc
for this character, but so sad

603
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,320
because he's so afraid of being
alone.

604
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,440
And he's not alone.
He's surrounded by infinite

605
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,000
possibilities, but he's by
himself.

606
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,520
So I was thinking about this
today, and it's such a bit

607
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,840
bittersweet ending for this
character.

608
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,040
We've grown to love Loki and we
want the best for him, but there

609
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:07,880
is some sort of cosmic karma
here because Loki, before coming

610
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,160
to the TVA, was kind of
horrible.

611
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,400
Yeah, he was literally mind
controlling.

612
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,840
Yeah, so the fact that he
doesn't ultimately get his way,

613
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,360
although it's horrible for us
now that we love him, when you

614
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,080
think back to it, you're like,
well, he accomplished his

615
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,680
mission, but he did some shitty
stuff.

616
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,440
Yeah, but I think he was on
Redemption Arc.

617
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,000
He did good things, but I think
this shows him being fully

618
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,480
selfless, right?
Whereas for so long, he was

619
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,520
selfish.
And I think he was a fish.

620
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,560
What's a fish?
I think the.

621
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,720
You know what?
What makes a God a God, right?

622
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,120
And I mean, in the MCU, I think
it gets a little weird because

623
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,920
it's like, are they actually
gods?

624
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,160
I mean, technically, but like,
aren't they just aliens on

625
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:57,600
another planet, essentially.
But like, he, he did the thing

626
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,120
that actually, like, makes a
God.

627
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,920
He did.
He didn't do something for

628
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,200
himself.
He did something for other

629
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,160
people.
And the other people just have

630
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,400
to be realities, the the whole
bunch of the multiverse.

631
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,760
And he's a God.
I mean, he's just.

632
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,880
He's cemented himself as not
only becoming one of the most

633
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:21,280
powerful entities in all of
existence, but saved a lot of

634
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,080
people.
Like billions of people, I just.

635
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,680
One I liked his Toms, or
whatever you want to call them.

636
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,120
He did have delightful little
ballet flats.

637
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,160
Surely he did.
But like.

638
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,320
His costume, the horns made from
like it looked like the material

639
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,720
from the Citadel, but with like
his like hooded sashy thing.

640
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,040
His costume really looked like
it was past, present and future

641
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,600
Loki just mixed into one.
I am here for that look.

642
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,520
I need like a action figure or
something of that.

643
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,600
I need it.
They need to make one of him

644
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,120
sitting on that golden throne,
holding all the timelines.

645
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,040
How glorious would that be?
Hot Toys?

646
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,760
Good on it, yeah.
But make the timelines like see

647
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,560
through and there's a little
light at the bottom so that when

648
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,920
you click it, they glow right?
I think I'm going to think about

649
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,960
the images, especially that
whole scene, for a long time.

650
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:22,920
It's just I don't think that
like an MCU show or property has

651
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,840
like resonated with me as much
as this.

652
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,560
Episode or series has, it's just
there's something special about

653
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,199
it there.
There was a quiet devastation to

654
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:36,280
the end of this.
Whereas when I think of Wanda

655
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,760
Vision that felt like a little
more loud and brash, whereas

656
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:47,719
this was just so simple and so
heartbreaking at the same time.

657
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,520
They really achieved something
special in that, in that final

658
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,040
in that scene.
The final scenes with, you know,

659
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,600
we we see Mobius.
Mobius and Silvia a little

660
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,920
later.
And Mobius is they all have free

661
00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:01,520
will now, right?
And I think there is something

662
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,440
like kind of poetic about like
Loki starting out with taking

663
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,400
away free will and then Loki
literally giving everybody free

664
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,800
will.
But like the moment in

665
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,040
particular with, you know,
Mobius quits the TVA.

666
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,120
He's able to go back if he wants
to, but he's going to go see his

667
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,400
life, you know, if you don't
ever look, how will you know?

668
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,280
So he's actually looking right
and.

669
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:29,080
We have to remember that this
Mobius didn't experience things

670
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,680
that themselves when they went
back on their time length

671
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,280
experience.
So this is the first time he's

672
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,640
seeing it, but from like his
perspective, not living in that

673
00:35:39,240 --> 00:35:42,320
and there's something really sad
about it, but also beautiful

674
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,000
that he's able to see that and
still knows what he has.

675
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,480
But like him saying, you know,
I'm just going to let time pass.

676
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,520
And it gets that close up of his
face and we don't know where

677
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,320
Sylvie's going.
We'll we'll talk about like the

678
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,840
characters at the end, but like
it's up, it's up close on his

679
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,520
face saying time will pass And
then it goes to Loki and like

680
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,640
Loki's final shot with him, with
all the timelines around him.

681
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:09,600
And it's like he's not happy.
And I don't know if the right

682
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,880
word is like content, but like,
I think he knows.

683
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,520
Like, this fucking sucks, but
I'm.

684
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,880
Glad that they're able to be OK.
I kept waiting on that close up

685
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,720
of Loki's face.
I kept waiting for that.

686
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,360
Just hint of a smile and we
never really get it.

687
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,960
He kind of just like, yeah, it
it seems.

688
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,200
I feel like content isn't even
the right word.

689
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:34,680
I feel like it's just
acceptance.

690
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:39,920
I think that's the right word.
I accept this existence right

691
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:45,160
now and I can't think about it
too much.

692
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:52,280
It's because it's so sad and I'm
just like, what do you do for

693
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,720
all of eternity?
He's holding it all together.

694
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,680
That's it.
You sit by yourself.

695
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,520
What if he has to use the
restroom?

696
00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:03,200
I don't know.
Do Gods poop and pee?

697
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,200
I've never seen it, so probably
not, unless that's what Ambrosia

698
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,280
is.
Oh, OK.

699
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,160
Delicious.
So sweet.

700
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,640
But fucking like that, that
scene in particular, I did start

701
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:19,200
like I was getting real teary.
I think a tear did fall in that

702
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,440
particular moment.
It's just so it's beautiful, but

703
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,320
it's it is devastating, right?
And they did such a good job.

704
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,560
Like I just everybody involved
in the show from start to finish

705
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,040
and the fact that they were able
to.

706
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:36,520
Complete This story arc of Loki
is incredible.

707
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,720
And if thinking back like we
didn't really have a villain

708
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,000
this season, there was like
antagonists and like obstacles

709
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,560
in the way.
And now like sitting with him

710
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:50,000
being like, OK, looking at these
two seasons, we just focused on

711
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,040
Loki, like it wasn't even really
about what was going on outside

712
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,360
of everything.
Like yes, there's big

713
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,080
implications outside of this,
but like, to Loki, that stuff

714
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,000
doesn't matter.
He's.

715
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,320
Here and now.
So like the fact that we just

716
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,920
got to sit with a low key for
the it's just it's so good.

717
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,600
Yeah, it was really well
crafted.

718
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:14,200
And I think that it is so
interesting to see a character

719
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,800
that we very much didn't like
when his first appearances of

720
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:22,560
the MCU become quite beloved and
wanting the best for him.

721
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:29,280
So I just feel for our God of
Gods, God of time, whatever he

722
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,200
is.
When they when they did the

723
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,200
title card of after it did, it
did make me sad.

724
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,600
I was just like, he's still
there.

725
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,360
I mean, at least we could say
that.

726
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,760
I mean, we know that he saved
everyone and now the TVA is a

727
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,040
better place.
They have more people on the

728
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,920
council, Casey included.
Well, the war room, yeah, it was

729
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,880
opened like you saw analysts,
you saw hunters, you saw judges,

730
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,240
everybody was in there.
We got one last glimpse of Judge

731
00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:00,080
Gamble.
So that was great.

732
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,440
And it does look like they are
building a better TVA.

733
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,920
It seems like really the purpose
of the TVA now is to.

734
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:14,720
Monitor Kang variants because
Hunter B-15 and Mobius kind of

735
00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:17,800
talk about it and they they
mentioned Ant man quantumania.

736
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,320
They're like this one caused a
ruckus on an adjacent reality to

737
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,120
616 Ant Man in the Quantum
realm.

738
00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:27,120
And so that was cool that we got
some acknowledgement but like,

739
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,920
so Loki gave them time but
they're still the issue of the

740
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,440
Kang variants.
So it seems like very much

741
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,800
that's where it's going.
Can we also, just for a second,

742
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,880
think about how creepy it is
when they're looking at that

743
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,760
screen of the now tree timeline,
knowing that that's Loki out

744
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:46,840
there?
He's right in the middle.

745
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,200
He's just holding it all
together.

746
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,320
Couldn't he just like Tie Wonder
Magic Lasso?

747
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,640
Why didn't Wonder Woman come in?
She always comes into these into

748
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:01,520
movies and they play that.
I mean, I know that's DC, but

749
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,480
that's such a Wonder Woman thing
to do, isn't it?

750
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,240
It is shows up at the last
minute.

751
00:40:05,240 --> 00:40:06,160
Everybody's always falling off
A.

752
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,640
Cliff Near near, near near near
near.

753
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,320
Rude.
That's the truth.

754
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,000
So.
No, that is the truth.

755
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,760
Yeah.
I mean, I so do you want to

756
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,800
talk?
OK, well, well, one thing I have

757
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,720
to mention.
Well, I mean, there's a few

758
00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:29,080
other things, but my biggest
grievance with this season.

759
00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:32,920
As the treatment of Hunter B-15.
You know I have a problem with

760
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,960
that.
I was really hoping that by the

761
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:41,200
end, like, I love the character
Moussaku does an amazing job.

762
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:47,200
Like, what did they?
They didn't have her doing

763
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,880
really anything.
I'm glad that she has like a

764
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,680
position, a high position at the
TVA now that's great.

765
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:57,200
But like, it was just very odd
that Silvie and Hunter B-15 this

766
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,520
season.
Just kind of.

767
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,440
Were there.
Like, Sylvie had some things,

768
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,040
but like, she was just more of a
conversation Peach, which is

769
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:08,360
important.
Sylvie gave him that McDonald's

770
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,440
product placement.
That's what they needed her for.

771
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,440
But I completely agree.
I was super disappointed by

772
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,880
B-15's role in this entire
season.

773
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:20,280
I think that they really miss an
opportunity because this actor

774
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,080
is incredible.
If you've watched Lovecraft

775
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,040
Country, I mean, she's just
phenomenal.

776
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:31,040
And the fact that she really got
boiled down to being a guest at

777
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,920
things oh, this is exploding,
turning into spaghetti.

778
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:38,680
Yeah, she was just, that was
shit like and and and the fact

779
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,920
that I don't know, they they
brought in new characters that I

780
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,040
felt like had more of a role
than she did.

781
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,720
Yeah, Casey did.
Well, Casey, at least was in the

782
00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:49,120
first season like someone like.
Brad.

783
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,400
No, I'm saying they gave Casey.
You're such a small.

784
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:56,160
Character more of 100% and that
was wonderful.

785
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,160
I was so excited for Casey.
But why did we boil, you know,

786
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:00,720
B-15 down to this?
Nothing.

787
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,760
Yeah, I feel like the the story
that they wanted to tell was so,

788
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,880
like, intimate with like very
specific characters that like,

789
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,320
they couldn't just forget about
Hunter V-15 and they were like,

790
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:14,600
just like put her in the room
and have her react and that'd be

791
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,960
great.
She could still work that day.

792
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,720
She's just like, right now from
this angle.

793
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,040
And this is like, obviously not
against her because she didn't

794
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:28,080
make those decisions, but like.
That's like one of my biggest

795
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:32,400
grievances, and also like Sylvia
felt like could have helped a

796
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,080
little more.
But it was all about Loki

797
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,960
anyway.
Sylvia got a.

798
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,960
Haircut.
I worked at McDonald's.

799
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,120
So where do you think?
After all this?

800
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:47,520
Where do you think that leaves
our cast?

801
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,480
I mean, we know what Hunter B-15
is doing.

802
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:54,360
She's making the TVA better.
We saw OB with a new.

803
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,120
TVA Guidebook.
I loved that the colors were

804
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,040
just, like flipped because it
was like orange and yellow, and

805
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,360
now it's yellow and orange or
like whatever those colors were.

806
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,200
So I wonder what's in it.
But like, where do you think?

807
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,600
Like, this is, Sylvie?
What do you think?

808
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,800
Is Mobius just going to watch
his other life this whole time?

809
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:17,200
Like, I mean, I think that
Mobius and Sylvie now have the

810
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:18,840
free will to do whatever they
want.

811
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,480
I think that Sylvie is truly
going to just be hopping from

812
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,960
branch to branch, experiencing
different things until some evil

813
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,320
in the MCU pulls her back in.
Mobius, on the other hand, I

814
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,200
think is a is a very good
question.

815
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,880
I think that he is.
I think he'll ultimately go back

816
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,880
to the TVA.
He'll ultimately want to work

817
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,080
towards the greater good again.
But I think he kind of needs a

818
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,960
vacation.
Maybe his heart is a little

819
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,800
broken.
Yeah, that's true.

820
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:47,160
He said that his love is now a
tree, is a gardener, is the

821
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,440
eternal gardener.
It's beautiful.

822
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,360
There is rumours that apparently
the TVA, Miss Minutes and Mobius

823
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:58,480
are going to be in Deadpool 3
because like supposedly I you

824
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,440
know, Fast forward a little bit
if you don't want to hear

825
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,240
rumoured spoilers or whatever
the synopsis of Deadpool Three

826
00:44:04,240 --> 00:44:06,360
is like.
They recruit Deadpool to like

827
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,120
get a team together.
From various timelines, like the

828
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,200
TV it is, So I don't know.
We'll see if that's the actual

829
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,680
thing, but I'm hoping to see him
again.

830
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,680
Me too.
One of the biggest questions, I

831
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,840
think is what is going on with
Renslayer.

832
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:27,200
So they make it a point when
when Mobius tells B-15 that he

833
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:32,240
is leaving, they make it a point
to to take the camera down to

834
00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:34,440
his feet.
And he, like, scuffs his shoe

835
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,320
against this emblem in the floor
of the TVA.

836
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,920
Then when we see Rensselaer
laying in a field with a pyramid

837
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,000
of the background, she's laying
on top of the same emblem,

838
00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:45,920
right?
So what does that mean?

839
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,120
Is she in a different variant
TVA?

840
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,000
Why is she glowing all Purpley?
Is she just going to become the

841
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,920
next he who remains?
Like these are big questions.

842
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,600
Yeah, well, it is very.
It's ominous, right?

843
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,200
It's obviously we're not done.
With Renslayer, she's going to

844
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,280
up here in some way.
She was essentially the

845
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,760
cliffhanger for the series, I
think.

846
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,800
You know, there's multiple ways
that you can think about it,

847
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,560
right?
Like, what is the Void itself

848
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,720
like?
Is it just a dumping ground

849
00:45:15,720 --> 00:45:19,320
where this giant smoke monster
Oliath is walking around eating

850
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,440
things?
Or is it the future, where all

851
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,840
things have ended and a lot of
things have converged into one?

852
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,640
We still don't know, since the
Kings are around.

853
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,760
And they're going to happen.
The multiversal war is probably

854
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,440
still going to happen, if it
hasn't happened already or

855
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,080
something like that.
We know King Dynasty is

856
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,880
happening.
We know Secret Wars is

857
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,880
happening.
Supposedly they haven't moved

858
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:48,120
the dates yet, but we'll see.
So is it possible that that's

859
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:53,720
either the future and all of
secret wars took place in the

860
00:45:53,720 --> 00:45:57,040
TVA or around it and it's just
just destroyed?

861
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,880
Or is that like a different TVA
that got pruned and put in

862
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,600
there?
It's it's very interesting.

863
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,520
Like, is the pruning not
technically putting them in a

864
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,280
different place, just putting
them at the end of time?

865
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,480
What the hell is pruning?
We'll never know.

866
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:18,880
I need to know, but so do you
think it was Elias that was

867
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,240
there, or do you think it was a
Kang?

868
00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:26,120
I think it was a Kang.
I think that the fact that it

869
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:31,080
felt so ominous and she was
like, so like struck by it, it

870
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,480
felt like she was seeing that
face again.

871
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,640
She gave like there was a split
second at the end with her where

872
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,160
she gave this look of like
determination, where like she

873
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,520
knew like I can take this on or
like I know what's going to

874
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:48,520
happen, or like whatever.
I'm very curious to see what it

875
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,080
is because we have the whole
thing.

876
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,120
The greater in real life, the
greater things with the MCU.

877
00:46:53,720 --> 00:46:57,320
We don't know what Marvel's
going to be doing with Kang,

878
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,840
that character or anything.
So like, was there a version of

879
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,920
this where, like, we saw that
that was a Kang, but like,

880
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,240
they're not sure, so they kind
of cut him out and just made it.

881
00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:09,840
Oh, maybe.
Ambiguously.

882
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,800
I think it's weird that it
didn't show, yeah.

883
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:17,920
Who that was.
So I think that I feel like this

884
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:22,680
series season finale, whatever
it is, actually answered a lot

885
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,840
less questions than we may have
had.

886
00:47:27,240 --> 00:47:31,240
And so in this instance, you
know, we have that little plot

887
00:47:31,240 --> 00:47:36,640
line where Miss Minutes shows
Ren Slayer, her creating the TVA

888
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,400
with he who remains, right?
So is this just her back at the

889
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,800
start of that, seeing him again
and they're going to rebuild it

890
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,680
and go through the loop all over
again?

891
00:47:45,720 --> 00:47:47,240
Well, I think that's the
question, right.

892
00:47:47,240 --> 00:47:51,200
It's like so.
He remains, created this loop.

893
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,520
Did Loki break it because he
broke the equation?

894
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,280
So like is the loop gone?
And does that mean that like,

895
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,240
maybe that was supposed to
happen?

896
00:48:01,240 --> 00:48:05,800
But since it's not anymore, is
the multiverse award still going

897
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,360
to happen, but in a different
way?

898
00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:11,520
Timely we We get a scene of
timely at the end of this and he

899
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,520
never got the book.
No, he doesn't get the book as a

900
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,520
kid.
So like does he not grow up to

901
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,600
then get introduced to a Kang
and he remains to then bring

902
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:27,160
RHWR to where it is.
It's it's very like this is time

903
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,440
travel, right?
This if I think if you look too

904
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,520
much into it, it just breaks
down and it's like it's

905
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,400
impossible.
Maybe the question we have to

906
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,440
ask is what color does Uwatu
glow?

907
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,400
No.
Is he purply?

908
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,480
I think he's more bluey.
Yeah, I know.

909
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,280
I'm just like, who the heck is
that purple?

910
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,680
I think a lion, I think.
Eliath was Purpley, and I think

911
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,520
that's why I first assumed it
was Eliath.

912
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,600
But then, like, thinking about
it, why wouldn't they show

913
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,440
Eliath?
That'd be weird.

914
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,560
Not to Just to make us be like
it's a cliffhanger, right?

915
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,040
Evil.
I don't know.

916
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,120
That is a big question that
we're left with.

917
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:04,800
Another big question that we're
left with.

918
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:10,280
What's with the pie?
Well, OK, this is me like being

919
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,400
sad about everything and just
thinking about it, right?

920
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,560
So Loki is now the God of
stories is whatever you want to

921
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,880
call him.
He's the most powerful being and

922
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,320
he's spread out through all this
time and everything.

923
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:27,200
Was the green Key Lime Pie just
like an essence of Loki that was

924
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:33,040
there all along?
Is the time stone green because

925
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,520
of Loki like?
I'm just like thinking of all

926
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,880
these things because he's
holding all of time and

927
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,440
timelines.
Like, it would be weird if some

928
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,440
of him wasn't bleeding through
all of that.

929
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:48,240
And then it just makes me sad
because he's just saying hi.

930
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:52,040
Do you Remember Me?
Hey, hey, you guys want to come

931
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:53,560
visit?
You guys want?

932
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,000
To bring me some pie, put on a
little suit, come out and say

933
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,000
hi.
I'll give you fancy shoes.

934
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,640
Someone go say horns.
Someone.

935
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,240
So I think that's the the bigger
question, right?

936
00:50:05,240 --> 00:50:07,440
I wanted to pose it to you and
to our listeners.

937
00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:15,320
If this is a farewell to Loki,
are you fine with that or do you

938
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,480
see him appearing in the future
in some way?

939
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,000
Both.
So yes, I am fine with this.

940
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,960
I think this is a beautiful end
to this series.

941
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:29,920
I think that it really put a cap
on who Loki has become and how

942
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,320
selfless he has become.
Do I think we're going to see

943
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:33,960
him again?
Absolutely.

944
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:38,040
He is the most powerful being in
all of existence.

945
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,720
What about Gaia from Secret
Invasion?

946
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,280
Who?
You know Daenerys?

947
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,840
Oh yeah, You know, I did like
that fight.

948
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,240
I know people had problems with
that CGI fight, but I was like

949
00:50:50,240 --> 00:50:53,600
finally a fight anyway, not to
bring up Secret Invasion.

950
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:54,840
Why does Secret Invasion come
up?

951
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,720
I feel like we bring up Midnight
Sun and Secret Invasion too

952
00:50:57,720 --> 00:50:59,720
much.
Well, we started with Midnight

953
00:50:59,720 --> 00:51:02,200
Sun and Secret Evasion Just
happened.

954
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:07,160
And Edward Cullen is watching.
But because he's so powerful, I

955
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,160
think that he will find a way to
create a little avatar of

956
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,440
himself that he can send into
other realities.

957
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:13,920
You So you think that he's going
to create?

958
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:20,800
Yeah, that's like his deal.
Yeah, I think, you know, I

959
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,720
obviously I'm selfish and it's
like I'm used to comic books

960
00:51:23,720 --> 00:51:25,920
where like characters are gone,
but then they come back or

961
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,080
whatever, like, so of course I
want Loki and Tom Hiddleston to

962
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,360
do this forever.
I don't care if he's old, he can

963
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:35,400
be like Richard E Grant from the
last season and he's just in

964
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,960
spandex and he's like fully
support.

965
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:42,640
Yeah, but I think that they
should like.

966
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,600
Let him rest for a little bit.
Like don't bring him back

967
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,960
immediately, right.
It's like we want this impact,

968
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,560
we want him to do his thing.
I do see depending on what

969
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:57,120
happens with The Avengers
movies, like give it like a like

970
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:01,400
during end game where you know
you hear in caps thing on your

971
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:02,880
left and then all the portals
open up.

972
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,760
I want that moment for Loki when
he comes in to like, save

973
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,640
everybody.
What is Loki going to say?

974
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:17,720
He's going to say, Neil, I'm hi.
He could be like what was the

975
00:52:17,720 --> 00:52:19,080
thing?
Now I'm blanking on what they

976
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:23,640
said the need help stick that
him and Thor do like where he's

977
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,000
like need help and he's like
throws.

978
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,720
There you go.
Yeah, I'm figuring out.

979
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:30,520
Yeah.
But like I'm I'm curious if.

980
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,360
So these big event movies, they
tend to like pull from different

981
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,320
event comics and put them
together.

982
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,680
And there's a lot of talk of
like pivoting from Kang and

983
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,600
going to doom.
But I'm almost curious if like,

984
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:46,720
Loki is going to take the spot
of Doom in like The Secret War

985
00:52:46,720 --> 00:52:49,680
comics, because like he's seen
he's all powerful, he gained all

986
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,920
these omnipotent abilities and
everything very much like Doom

987
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:54,200
does.
Also, he's green.

988
00:52:55,280 --> 00:53:00,680
And so I could see kind of Loki
being a very instrumental key to

989
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,360
whatever is going to happen in
Secret Wars.

990
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,320
I mean, is there also something
to say, which I'm sure you don't

991
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:11,160
want, where Loki is, so over all
your mortal bullshot that he's

992
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,000
just going to let it happen and
be like whatever.

993
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:15,800
No, because what if Mobius is in
danger?

994
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,960
He's not going to have that.
Oh, that is true.

995
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,160
He'll be down there in a second.
He's like, let's let go of all

996
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,760
the time and he's going to just
smooch him right on the lips.

997
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:29,120
And Mobius is going to say Loki,
I've been waiting for eternity.

998
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:35,280
I'm old now.
Oh, I don't want it to end.

999
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,440
I don't want to say goodbye.
I I but I do think that if it

1000
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:43,040
was a send off for the character
beautiful, it's great.

1001
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:47,240
I mean I I don't think he
himself thought he would be in

1002
00:53:47,240 --> 00:53:48,720
this position.
Like Tom Hiddleston.

1003
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,360
No, like as the actor playing
Loki because they try to kill

1004
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,080
him like like 2 times.
Oh my God.

1005
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,760
He got freaking choked out.
He everything.

1006
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,320
Yeah.
But now he's here.

1007
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,560
Play Spice Girls.
Goodbye.

1008
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:07,760
Goodbye my friend.
So all the.

1009
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,680
Words segue right away from that
beautiful rendition.

1010
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:17,080
Anything that you want to say
about Loki before we stop?

1011
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:18,920
It was terrible.
Uh, huh.

1012
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,160
No.
I think that although this

1013
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,560
second season was much different
than the first season, I still

1014
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,440
think it was very entertaining.
I was super happy to see this

1015
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:31,320
cast back together again, and I
just think that that final

1016
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,720
moment of seeing Loki sitting
there was just like a really

1017
00:54:34,720 --> 00:54:36,960
heartbreaking button to this
character.

1018
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,760
But.
Also, just so damn cool with it.

1019
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,960
Like in his Cape.
He's pulling it.

1020
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:43,880
He's doing like a what, a
butterfly crawl.

1021
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,080
Just like, oh, his pecs.
Look at his pecs.

1022
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,640
He's going to be ripped by the
time he's always had a booty,

1023
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:55,880
but now he's going to have pecs.
But what do you rate it out of

1024
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,880
five?
The season?

1025
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,200
Oh, the season out of A5.
I'm going to give it a four.

1026
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:02,480
A four?
Yeah.

1027
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:04,600
Rude.
OK, I'm just kidding.

1028
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,200
No, like, this is like my most
controversial thing that I'll

1029
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,240
say.
I feel like you're going to hate

1030
00:55:09,240 --> 00:55:11,360
me.
I think that the second season

1031
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:15,920
could have been a movie.
No, I think that they could have

1032
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,000
just boiled it down a little
bit.

1033
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,560
I don't think that we would have
gotten the payoff that we got if

1034
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,440
we didn't sit with Loki because
there.

1035
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,720
Was no villain or anything, you
know?

1036
00:55:26,720 --> 00:55:28,960
I just feel like we wouldn't
have gotten those, like, small

1037
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,000
nuanced moments with him.
It's like even the conversation

1038
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,600
he had with Sylvie in the bar
where he finally admits, like,

1039
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,000
just like want my friends.
Like, I just don't want to be

1040
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,200
alone.
Is that too much to ask?

1041
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,640
Like, I feel like we wouldn't
have those moments, would have

1042
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,640
had as much impact.
OK, fair enough.

1043
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:46,520
It's.
Just me.

1044
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,720
You can have your That's fine.
Hey, listen, listen.

1045
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:50,480
This is a peaceful podcast
though, Hey?

1046
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,320
So.
Loved it.

1047
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:54,720
Obviously there's not much more
I can say.

1048
00:55:54,720 --> 00:55:55,440
Yeah.
What do you rate it?

1049
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:01,400
4 1/2 It's like it's so close to
perfect.

1050
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:05,560
I feel like don't include Hunter
V-15 if you're not going to

1051
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,800
actually utilize the character.
Yeah, that's like one of the

1052
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:10,320
biggest grievances I have with
this.

1053
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:13,920
We never we didn't miss mention
Miss minutes.

1054
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,400
It seems like they're not too
worried that she's going to try

1055
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:17,240
to murder them.
But also.

1056
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,280
Kobe's like, we'll see.
I don't know.

1057
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,320
He's like I I can only do so
much.

1058
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,520
She she always become sentient
at some point in time.

1059
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:28,200
The I would have given a four,
but since we got psychopathic

1060
00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:31,320
and horny miss minutes, it
bumped it up a half a star.

1061
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:35,120
I did love that part.
See, I mean the the greatness of

1062
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:39,520
getting even more Miss minutes.
In this we get many more faces

1063
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,520
of Miss minutes.
We did so good.

1064
00:56:43,240 --> 00:56:45,560
OK, well, let us know what you
thought.

1065
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:50,080
What docs?
And Brad, what was with the

1066
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,240
weird heads I was?
Trying not even to, like,

1067
00:56:52,240 --> 00:56:54,520
acknowledge it.
Because sorry, no, that just

1068
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:55,960
came back up.
I'm pissed about it.

1069
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:01,000
What the hell was that?
That was so bizarre and we're

1070
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:02,520
just supposed to be fine with
it?

1071
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,480
Yeah.
He watched his lover get

1072
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,160
squeezed like a grapefruit.
We don't know if that was the

1073
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,560
lover situation though.
Mother maybe.

1074
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,880
Bestie maybe?
I mean, I don't go up to

1075
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:17,080
strangers and do that to them.
You should try no, no no no.

1076
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,400
Not in this day, Not in this day
and age.

1077
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,040
Not as a homosexual, no.
No.

1078
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:26,680
Well, don't go out to him like,
and why not?

1079
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,240
Oh God, if I want to flounce up
to somebody I have every right

1080
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:35,680
to Oh, there's there's a there's
a thing in Will and Grace where

1081
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,560
he's doing a spelling bee and
they think the word doily means

1082
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,400
the way you walk.
Oh, he walked doily down the

1083
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,760
street.
Doily so.

1084
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:49,080
Don't doily do that to some.
Fair enough.

1085
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:50,680
Fair enough.
All right.

1086
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:54,560
Well, next week Marvels, the
Marvels.

1087
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:57,600
And then after that something
very different.

1088
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:00,680
Do you like when we do different
things?

1089
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:04,360
Book leading into a show.
I hope you'll read along with

1090
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:10,000
us, oh mysterious all.
Right.

1091
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,800
That's a wrap on Loki.
Oh my gosh, From the Tree of

1092
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,080
Time.
We bid you adieu.

1093
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,120
Goodbye.
Bye.