'Percy Jackson and the Olympians' Episode 3: We Visit the Garden Gnome Emporium

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Hey, I'm Derek.
And I'm Noah, and you're

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and enjoy it 1 Nibble at a time.

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One nibble, third nibble of
Percy Jackson.

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Technically our second nibble
because we did a two and one the

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last episode.
That is true third episode.

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Talking about it, we visit the
Nome Emporium, one of my

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favorite titles of the first
book.

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So good.
Yay.

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So we're three episodes, and we
have how many more 5.

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We're almost halfway.
Five episodes left.

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Oh, but I'm very excited.
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it down.
Analysis is talking about funny

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moments, our favorite moments,
how much we like it, how much we

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don't.
That's not going to happen.

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Interesting new revelations.
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After that might be a little bit
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Yay.
I want to say something on a

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personal note.
I am battling some sort of food

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poisoning right now, so please
bear with me if my energy is not

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top tier.
Oh my God.

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I'm going to try and get there
though, you guys, so spoiler

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alert.
Listen, they've changed a couple

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of little things up from the
books to this adaptation, so if

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you don't want to be spoiled
about those changes or what

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happens in episode 3, feel free
to shut us off and come back

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later.
No, don't shut us off.

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Keep listening and be spoiled
sorry.

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Yeah, so there's tons of
spoilers for the books and also

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new stuff.
So yeah, so let us officially

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take a bite of Percy Jackson and
the Olympians.

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Episode three, we visit the
garden Gnome emporium.

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In this Bite, directed by Anders
Angstrom and written by Jonathan

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E Steinberg and Monica Oso,
Breen Percy picks his prophecy,

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pals, a bus ride goes from
stinky to fury, and the kids say

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no to getting stoned.
Wow.

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Say no dare.
Was that your dare announcement?

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Is that what?
It should have been and I should

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have based it all on Medusa.
I would have won.

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OK, I do want to say though that
like on the the first two

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episodes, I still can't get over
like the end of the second

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episode when Grover went to Mr.
D and Kyron and Percy and was

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like they're lying to you, your
mom's still alive.

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I just love that.
I just wanted to re say that

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because Grover to me is like the
MVP of this episode.

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So I just wanted to mention
that, yeah.

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Grover has a lot to deal with,
OK?

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He's trying to keep the peace
between the cloven elders and

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the people who run the camp, who
also happen to be gods.

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He's also trying to keep the
peace between his two prophecy

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mates here, quest mates, and
it's just a lot for one Seder to

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handle, but he's doing a
fantastic job of.

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It he has quite a few songs to
handle the situations.

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Which I think we should all
learn and use in our grown up

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lives at work.
I agree, just starts singing.

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Yeah, it starts with that slow
clap and then everyone knows

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what's going on.
So the beginning of this episode

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picks up with Percy going into
the attic of the big house and

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getting the prophecy from the
Oracle.

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Because it's not a quest unless
the Oracle pretty much says so

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and gives you a prophecy.
I love that they still kept it

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as smelly, Gabe being the one
that delivers this information

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and Percy being like, oh, come
on, are you serious?

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Like.
And I I think, like, having him

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in that green mist just kind of
really shows the smelliness too.

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They haven't called him Smelly
Gabe in the show, have they?

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No, I don't feel like they did.
And I think he could look

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smellier.
He could.

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I mean, he was sitting in that
recliner that looks like he's

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been sitting there.
There's like a depression in it.

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But like he could smell a little
more, just like, But I loved, I

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feel like in this episode we're
really seeing Walker Scoville

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really be Percy because the
first two episodes of setting up

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a lot of the groundwork.
And in this one we really could

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see his humor and his him being
a kid, right?

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I think one of the things that
he says to the Oracle is like,

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you're a Halloween decoration,
OK?

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And and then the Oracle opens
its mouth as like.

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Yeah.
It's like, oh, scarier than a

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Halloween decoration, OK?
Yeah, and I I really like.

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I remember when we did a read
through of the book Delphi the

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Oracle, we we noticed that the
the prophecy rhymed, which is

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really cool.
I loved that the prophecy

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rhymed, but they changed it for
the show.

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In the book, we know all the
lines.

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Percy just omits the last two
from Chiron, but in the show

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they omit the last two from the
audience.

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I remember whenever he was, they
were first saying it and they

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only said the 1st 2:00.
And I was like, wait, yeah,

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there's no way they're not doing
it.

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And then they showed us later.
I was like, OK.

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Fine, yeah, I got it.
I I really was kind of surprised

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about that as well.
And I thought they're really

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plotting some points here for us
as audience members to not

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really know it's coming up.
Yeah, I liked.

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I liked the attic.
I thought it was creepy enough.

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But I just love how Delphi was
just sitting in that chair and

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just the one stream of light on
them.

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It's like that's pretty
terrifying for a kid to go to.

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Now, is that just some sort of
vessel that Delphi comes into

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every so often, or is Delphi
just always petrified in that

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chair?
Let's just say there's something

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with the Oracle later on in the
books.

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OK, we'll leave it at that.
There's some things that I

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remember, and I definitely
remember Delphi and Oracle stuff

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and.
OK, just because I felt bad,

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that was my my main thing.
Right.

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It's like, why would the Oracle
just be sitting?

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There, yeah, in the in a dirty
old attic and can't have blood.

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Remember, not all gods are good.
I think that's really the the

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main message of the entire
series.

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Yeah, and I know that you have
the Oracle's prophecy.

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I do to recite that.
Should I just do the 1st 2 lines

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and leave everything else?
Do it because I know that you

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like to do the rhyme, so it's
fun.

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You shall go West and face the
God who has turned.

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You shall find what was stolen
and see it safely returned.

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You shall be betrayed by one who
calls you a friend, and you

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shall fail to save what matters
most.

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In the end, oh, but I mean, you
could have done it like smell

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like Gabe though.
No, please.

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Don't listen.
Born and raised in Queens, NY, I

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could do that.
That heavy New York accent he

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was doing.
You shall go West and face the

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God who was turned.
You shall find what was stolen,

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see it safely returned.
You shall be betrayed by one who

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calls you a friend, and you
shall fail to save what matters

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most in the end.
There you go.

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That was better.
Thank you.

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Thank you.
I'll be playing Smelly Gabe in

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Season 2.
So one of the things that I know

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that we are really enjoying
about the show is that they

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don't need to show us and tell
us everything.

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They can all just do it with a
line or just going there, right?

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Yeah, and that was one of the
things that I appreciated about

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this opening scene was that we
didn't need Chiron sitting down

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standing.
I don't know if he ever sits

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with him standing.
Yeah, he's a horse.

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And he being like, Percy, you
now must go to the attic and

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talk to the Oracle.
It was kind of like, oh, we're

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there, cool.
We don't need any of that filler

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stuff.
We get it right.

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I like that a lot.
And he also said, I think Percy

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said in the attic, he was like,
he was like, oh, it's not a true

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quest unless you say so.
That's all we needed.

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Damn, that's it.
That one line told us what was

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going on.
I'm curious, any of our

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listeners that are haven't read
the book and are watching this

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for the first time, is it making
sense to you?

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Because I know I did get a
message.

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I think it was last week and
somebody had asked was like what

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was with the the cut to black,
like as if there was supposed to

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be an ad or a commercial.
And like I explained, it was

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like they just, there's nothing,
they just go to the next scene.

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Like I just think it's an
editing choice.

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So I'm curious if it is working
with some people or not, Yeah.

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Just kind of curious.
There is something later on in

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this episode where I kind of
felt that way.

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I mean, as far as the fading to
black, I almost think a lot of

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times when things were on live
TV, commercials were used as a

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break to get us to the next
scene.

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But now we don't have that.
So what do we do?

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Yeah, now just.
Go to blank, yeah.

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Just go to the next thing.
Yep, the next scene is one of my

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favorite from this episode.
So we have Chiron and Mr. D and

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Percy in front and then they
have the best of the best

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tributes.
That's what it felt like.

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From the cabins there, yes.
And this is a little different,

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right?
So like in the book, they're

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just talking and he's like, OK,
who you want to take on a quest.

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And also I think somebody had
already volunteered like

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Annabeth had already, just like
Annabeth is going.

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She's been waiting.
Right.

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And in this one, it seems like
the person that gets the quest

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gets to choose, which makes a
little more sense, right?

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It's like, yeah, I want to
choose who is going to go on

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this particular quest with me.
And as Kyron's talking, he's

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just like Annabeth and I'm like,
but like his reasoning.

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But not really.
Yeah, no, not really.

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The reasoning later on when he
was like, hey, I picked her

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because I we would never be
friends and it's like and he

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didn't pick Luke with Annabeth
because he felt like that might

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get in the way of like what
needs to be done.

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And it's like I get your
reasoning, but like the things

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you're saying are mean.
I think as a 12 year old there's

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a lack of social filter and so
Percy's just saying what's on

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his mind, just like people
don't.

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Although, you know, it is kind
of funny because it it did feel

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very much like The Hunger Games.
Only these people want to be

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tributes, right?
They want to go on it.

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But like I would feel pressure
to pick Clarice because she is

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already mad at me.
I don't want to make her even

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more angry by not picking her,
but that's not Percy.

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Percy's just he knows what needs
to be done and he's not going

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on, you know, bullies versus
feelings versus what.

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This person is going to act
towards me at the end.

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He's just like, no, I need
certain parts of the prophecy to

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not come true and therefore I'm
picking these other people.

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Right.
But he like, so he doesn't pick

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Luke and then he picks Grover.
And it's like in the prophecy,

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it literally says somebody that
calls you friend is going to

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betray you.
And it's like, OK, let me bring

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my best friend with me.
It's like.

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He's like Percy.
The power of friendship will

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beat this prophecy, and you will
never do that.

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I'm not complaining because I
love these three.

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The trio's amazing.
I just love his reasoning for

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picking them.
It's like, of course he's going

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to pick Grover because it's
Grover, and then he picks

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Annabeth because he's like,
she's great, but like, we're not

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going to be friends.
So, like, I'm safe there.

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He just needs Grover to be that
buffer between him and Annabeth,

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and he knows that no one else
could do it like Grover could do

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it.
The way that Annabeth looked at

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Percy, as soon as he said her
name, she was just like,

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finally, because she's been
waiting.

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Part of her prophecy is that
somebody's going to come to camp

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that's going to get a quest that
nobody can deny, even the quest

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receiver, and that something's
going to happen with her.

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So it's happening for her too,
right?

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And it's very important.
I'm sorry.

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You're just like singing every
line of the song.

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Finally, finally it's happened
to me right in front of my face.

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That's Anna Bethan.
That's what she was saying,

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yeah.
Finally you came along.

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The way I feel about you, it
just can't be that's that gets

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into person, Beth.
But anyway, yeah, you're just

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saying all the words and you
were like finally it's happened

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to me.
I was like, yeah, keep.

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Going No, I'm not the singer.
You know that.

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But I do love, you know, him
going out of his way.

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I I I can't imagine Percy
standing in that circle of all

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these heroes and being like, OK,
I'm done picking out of these

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people.
I got to go to the Pegasus

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pasture.
I wanted to know what that was

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like.
Right?

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Because we don't see.
It just cuts to Grover shoveling

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Pegasus poo and like, is he just
like, OK, I'm not going to pick

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any of you.
I'm going to, I'm going to go to

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the fields.
I have somebody that I want to

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pick.
I just like, I wanted to see

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Clarice's face be like or are
you talking like she's?

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Just staying there with her
broken staff going, will

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anything go right for me again?
I'm curious if like if there's

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any stipulations?
Like are they usually supposed

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to pick other people from
cabins?

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Like can you just pick a Pegasus
instead of somebody else?

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You know what I mean?
Like who can you pick?

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I guess it's up to the West.
Person, right.

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I guess it was kind of like,
Karen is like, look, I've gotten

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you the pick of the litter here.
Do what you want?

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And he's like, no thanks.
He said.

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I'll take one.
Thanks for.

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This I got other plans.
But it was really sweet.

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I like how he was like, who'd
you pick?

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And he's like you and he's like,
no, seriously, who'd you pick?

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And he's like you.
Of course you.

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I love them so much.
We also guessing before they

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officially go on their quest of
Luke giving Percy the shoes, the

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shoes from Hermes, which was
very nice.

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And he lets him know he's like,
I don't want to, like, pick you,

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because then like, what if it
couldn't be done?

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What needs to be done?
And I'm like, is that a friend?

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Somebody that calls you friend
is going to betray you and

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you're talking to Luke?
I mean, it would have been extra

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bad.
Let's just say that.

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But these shoes, holy shit, even
better than just like, converse

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with wings on them, right?
It's like when he says Maya, The

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shoelaces turn into wings.
Yeah.

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Beautiful.
There are just some things that

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when you see them, it's just
like, oh, This is why people

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have those jobs, because that's
just so smart and so clever.

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And in my head, it was always
just wings.

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Well, that's what it was.
And it's like, duh.

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That is so cool.
Of course shoelaces would form

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the wings.
Hello.

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It's just so cool.
Just such a good smart design

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idea.
Not me.

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I mean like they look like
paper.

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So it's so cool.
I love that design.

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There is a like a high
definition screenshot of it and

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it's just like, I don't know,
it's amazing.

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It does look a little
terrifying, but also really cool

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at the same.
Time.

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It's mummification.
A little bit bandagi.

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So they're going to start on
their quest, right?

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And Annabeth is with Thalia, the
tree form of Thalia and saying

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goodbye.
And we get a little bit of the

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back story, right?
I liked in this episode that,

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like, I believe in the book, it
took a little longer.

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Like we we did hear bits and
pieces and then it was like put

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together later on.
I feel like in this episode it

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like hints at it and then it
does tell you the full thing by

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the end of it, which I greatly
appreciated.

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So Grover tells Thalia's back
story while Anabetha's over

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there, and essentially Thalia's
father Zeus wished to preserve

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her life because she sacrificed
her life to get Luke and

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Annabeth to camp half blood
safely by turning her into a

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tree, which also created the
magical barrier around camp half

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blood protecting everybody.
So that's the daughter of Zeus

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in the tree form.
Yeah, and and we do still have

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Grover omitting a piece of it
here about who their guide is.

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Yeah.
And later on, we do find out

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that it's Grover, which I love.
How Percy at the end he's like,

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wait, you were the one.
It's like, yes, Percy, dear God

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of.
Course pieces together more

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quickly, Percy Jeez.
But I think it's I don't blame

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Grover for omitting that part,
because why would he want his

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best friend to see his greatest
failure?

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Oh, absolutely.
There's there's guilt, there's

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shame, There's fear.
And also now I'm going on a

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quest as your guide in essence,
so I don't want to repeat what I

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did the last.
Time and also when he got him to

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camp, his mom poofed, so like
he's not doing too great.

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Yeah, not isn't have the best
track record.

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I will say in the like the next
couple stories, like outside of

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this one, Grover does like go
through some shit and it's just

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like leave him alone, leave this
little Go Goat boy alone, let

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him do what he wants like.
Does he have to grow?

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But so I'd really do, like, this
conversation.

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And when Annabeth finally comes
to them and they're like,

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talking about it and Annabeth is
like, this is how it's going to

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go.
This is what we're doing.

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And Percy's like, wait, so she
thinks she's in charge?

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Grover's like, yeah, who did you
think would be in charge?

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Would you?
Yeah.

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You're a demigod for like, a
week.

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He's like, I thought we would
vote, no, no, not not going to

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vote.
I I need to say one more thing

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about Grover before they even
set off, he just goes, I'm going

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to pack the best snacks and this
is another reason why you want

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Grover on your team.
He's just always.

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Thinking he has music, he has
snacks, he's thinking about the

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well-being.
Absolutely.

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Yeah, of course I but I cannot
mention that when Percy says I

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believe to Grover that he said
that Thalia met a Pine Cone's

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fate and it's like dude, like he
just told you that she

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sacrificed.
Herself.

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Maybe.
Don't make jokes about their

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friend who sacrificed
themselves.

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This is why though Annabeth can
put him in his place like you

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need to put him in his place
like he just found out about

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everything.
He shouldn't be talking like.

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Yeah.
And and right, there's there's

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also the their entire trajectory
as little 12 year old people of

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that.
You know Percy's LED this life

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outside all of this stuff where
she has been completely steeped

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in this her and I mean since she
was 7, right.

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So this is all she?
Even before that, yeah.

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Yeah, so she's been training for
years and Percy gets a Trident

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on his head and immediately gets
to go out into the world again.

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Oh, because he's a Big Three.
Oh, for a forbidden child, he

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should not be given this much
leeway.

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So for Annabeth, she knows
everything, so he really should

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be listening to her.
Yeah, he should 100%.

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Shut up.
And he does.

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Later.
So they finally head out in a

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very like Hobbit, The Unexpected
Journey, where they just go into

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the field.
I love that shot.

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I love these little kids so
much.

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So they're going to take a bus,
right?

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And we they finally tell us that
they can't take a plane because

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that's Zeus's domain.
And your favorite and child,

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Master Bolt is stolen, Do not go
up in the air.

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So they're going to take more,
slower modes of transportation

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to get to where they need to go.
This is where when they get to

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their first stop, not even to
Trenton yet, not hardly into New

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Jersey.
And they do their first stop.

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And now that's like, I'm going
to go in and get snacks.

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You have to stay by the toilet
because it smells and they can't

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smell you.
And this is where we get the

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first consensus song because
like, they just got or Grover.

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It's like the first day that
he's with like his two friends

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on a quest.
It's supposed to be fun and they

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won't stop bickering.
And by the end of this day, one

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Grover's like, I'm done.
I'm done, done with this.

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But the consensus song was so
cute.

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I love it.
The actor was on Broadway,

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right?
So it makes sense that he got.

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Yeah, he should be able to sing
as much as possible.

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But I do love Percy's
underhanded comment, where he's

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like the voting system is
broken.

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The voting system is my
Collapsing Song, and that's it.

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Deal with it.
That's oh, these scenes with

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Annabeth out in the real world
after five years from when she

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was 7, not being out there and
seeing these shots of like her

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in New York and like just in
wonder, and then going into the

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gas station and not really
knowing what to get.

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So she just gets like, all the
candy.

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It's just really sweet, but also
kind of heartbreaking.

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It is, but I did enjoy.
I think she made the right

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choice.
When in doubt, get all the

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flavours.
But were those gumballs what

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were?
I think they were gumballs.

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What if they were jawbreakers?
That's even worse.

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Last longer, at least as that.
Did they pack toothbrushes?

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That I don't know.
And you know, I was very

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concerned because when they
leave camp, they all have their

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own little backpacks and
everything, and by the end of

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this the backpacks are gone.
So any toothbrushes or dental

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floss does not exist.
But Annabeth is very keen,

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right?
She she can see things that

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aren't really how they're
supposed to be.

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I believe there's a voice over
when they were talking and you

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know the biggest thing is to
spot the monsters before they

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spot you.
And she is starting to spot some

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people that don't look very nice
and who's on the bus misses

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Dodds.
Electo.

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She is sitting there reading the
paper.

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Yeah, she's sitting there
reading the paper.

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And I really like this
interaction because Annabeth is

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like, you know what?
I'm going to tell her that?

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I know that she's here.
She puts on the invisible cap

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and she's like, you didn't think
I'd know that you were here and.

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I love that Electo.
Who is this immortal monster?

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Fury is like, hello 12 year old
girl.

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Let's have a very nice
conversation about what's going

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on today.
I'd like Electo is trying to

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make an offer with her, and at
this point, Percy isn't really

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like, they're not super close,
right?

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So it's like, what is Annabeth
going to do, 'cause she says

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that we're sent here from Hades.
Give us Percy.

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We don't want to kill him, we
just want to take him and then

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we'll help you with your quest,
like you can keep doing your

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quest.
It's not her quest anyway.

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It's not how it works, I think,
But so this is where we get the

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second fight with the Furies,
right?

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There's more than one Fury.
There's supposed to be 3.

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I wasn't sure if there was
three.

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I know there was 2.
Yeah, I think there were only

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two.
There was some mayhem going on

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here.
Very hectic busting into that

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bust.
That was pretty baller.

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There's some really cool, like
short, massive action scenes,

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right?
It's like things getting

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destroyed really quick and then
done and then on to the next

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scene.
But it was really cool and

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Annabeth just throwing her
dagger straight into that fury.

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00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,160
Done bye bye.
Loved it.

449
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,200
Yeah, so good.
Then they're on the run, and

450
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,320
they find themselves in the
treacherous wilderness of New

451
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:19,520
Jersey, where they're barely out
of the city but have ended up in

452
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,720
the forest.
We literally said, yeah, when we

453
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,000
were covering this book, when
they're in the forests of New

454
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,480
Jersey, it was like, does New
Jersey have forests?

455
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,280
And Percy said I didn't know New
Jersey even had forests.

456
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:34,200
Yes, I don't think they do they.
I mean, New Jersey has forests,

457
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,440
but I don't think right outside
of Manhattan.

458
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,440
Right.
They're not at Trenton yet.

459
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,200
So where is that?
I don't know.

460
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,480
My father was born in Trenton,
so maybe he'll know.

461
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,800
That doesn't help us, doesn't
help us at all.

462
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,840
So in the forest we Grover is
like talking about that There's

463
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,240
a Seder path and everything.
But we do have a interesting

464
00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:00,760
again, bickering between
Annabeth and Percy, where she

465
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,080
keeps talking about why are you
so afraid of who you are?

466
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:07,440
You're part of something bigger,
like, and I feel like she thinks

467
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,240
that he's not taking it serious,
but also not leaning into, like

468
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,760
you are the son of a God.
Like, you need to understand

469
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,320
what's happening here.
And I don't think you're

470
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,080
understanding this like there's
a huge thing happening, like war

471
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,040
could happen if we don't
succeed.

472
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,480
Yeah, but I think for Percy,
it's really about his mom.

473
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,360
Yeah, well, he needs to, like,
set two priorities, right?

474
00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:32,080
He needs a multitask.
Brought in your horizons, Percy

475
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,280
not just thought about you and
mom, OK?

476
00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:36,960
God.
Well, he does bring up Athena,

477
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,960
right?
He brings up Athena in this, and

478
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,800
it's just like he's jabbing at
Annabeth.

479
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:46,360
This is Percy, right?
He he acts a lot right without

480
00:23:46,360 --> 00:23:49,520
not necessarily thinking, but
he's like kind of jabs a little

481
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:50,880
bit.
It's like a leap before he

482
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,200
looks.
Exactly.

483
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,280
Exactly.
And this is where we find out

484
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,920
about the Thalia stuff.
So let's get to Medusa.

485
00:23:57,120 --> 00:24:00,760
On to Auntie Em and her gnome
garden gnome emporium.

486
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,520
Love the way it looked at first.
I was like, is that a gas

487
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,240
station?
It did kind of look that way.

488
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,760
Electo is here, Medusa is here,
our trio is here.

489
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,200
And I love this change from the
book because in the book it was

490
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,200
like, oh, we smell food, we need
food, let's go get some food.

491
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,280
And this one, with Electo being
there, she kind of forces them

492
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,360
to go into.
It's like picking which one are

493
00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:27,400
you going to do?
Yeah, the flexor of two evils.

494
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,640
Yeah, and I love that they
immediately knew it was Medusa

495
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,080
because in the book it was like,
oh, she's Medusa, we need to

496
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,360
run.
And this one, it's like, no,

497
00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:37,800
she's she's Medusa.
They're just like monster

498
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,520
statues.
This woman is hiding her face

499
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,120
and Electo is hiding.
Which again, I think makes more

500
00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:46,560
sense, right?
And because at least for Grover

501
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,520
and Annabeth, they know all this
stuff.

502
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,480
So walking into Anti M's and
seeing all these stone statues,

503
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,360
I don't think it would be going
like, what's going on here?

504
00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:57,120
They're like, oh.
Gosh.

505
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,640
OK, everybody look away.
Look away.

506
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,200
My favorite part about that,
though, is that like Grover,

507
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,640
Annabeth, and Electo all look
away and then Percy's like, oh

508
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,080
oh oh, I'll do that too, like he
has no idea what's going.

509
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,080
It's like emergency dabbing in
the moment.

510
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,200
No idea what's happening.
No.

511
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:14,920
But I love this conversation,
right?

512
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:21,560
Because it's like, she plays to
like their sympathies in a way,

513
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,000
of like, oh, I know what's going
on.

514
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,880
We've heard about this.
Like, I'm just going to get you

515
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,000
food.
Like, come in, Like, I

516
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,680
understand what's going on.
The gods suck.

517
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,680
Like, come on, don't go with
her.

518
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,320
She's you could either stay with
her and she'll kill you or

519
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,440
whatever, or I can feed you, you
know, I really liked her house.

520
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,200
It was dark because she had all
the blinds and curtains and

521
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,240
everything drawn, and I think
that's really interesting,

522
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,160
especially for Medusa, right?
Maybe she doesn't want people to

523
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,440
see her before she sees them
that way.

524
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,080
In case she does need to turn
them, she can.

525
00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:55,720
She needs everything to be a
surprise.

526
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,120
Right.
And that's what it very much

527
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,120
feels like.
I love Grover and Percy

528
00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:02,240
immediately eating in the
kitchen.

529
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,120
There's three milkshakes.
So it's like she's really going

530
00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:06,960
all out.
Like, regardless of what happens

531
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,760
in this episode, she really goes
it's like feed them, which is

532
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,640
kind of nice.
It feel to me the entire scene

533
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,960
felt very Hansel and Gretel.
It was like, yeah, children,

534
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,880
come inside, enjoy yourselves,
there's no danger at all.

535
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:25,720
Well, OK, so no, not at all.
And the way that they did this

536
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,880
conversation was so good.
This is probably my favorite

537
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,880
writing so far than the show
because they changed Medusa for

538
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:37,400
the show and you sympathize with
her, terrified of her.

539
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,960
And also it was just like, yeah,
the gods are also monsters.

540
00:26:42,360 --> 00:26:46,360
Because she tells Annabeth and I
love that there's like this

541
00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:51,760
counterculture happening almost.
Or like Annabeth is very much

542
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,280
into pleasing her mother very
much in that culture, praying to

543
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,640
her everything.
And Medusa, who is Medusa

544
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,400
because of her mother, tells her
her story.

545
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,320
And it's really upsetting
because she prayed to her, she

546
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,920
worshipped her.
She was devoted to Athena.

547
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:13,560
And she tells Annabeth, I was
you like I was you.

548
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,160
I wasn't like something else.
And they're like, was you?

549
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,200
And this is what happened to me.
She was.

550
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,400
She's like in her temple,
worshipping her.

551
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:26,120
Poseidon romances her Athena is
embarrassed, so she punishes

552
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,640
Medusa.
Right, and not Poseidon.

553
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,480
It's victim blaming.
And that line where she says not

554
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:37,800
him, me and I was like OK and
you know Medusa apologist, I

555
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,320
don't.
She could do no wrong.

556
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,720
The the character of Medusa in
this instance is really

557
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,120
interesting because I'm trying
to figure out what her ultimate

558
00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:51,800
end goal is here.
And you know, as she's telling

559
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,760
the story of what happened to
her, it feels very much like her

560
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,440
saying to these kids, we're all
just pawns of the gods.

561
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,320
You can send as much food up to
them as you want, but they're

562
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,680
going to do whatever they want
to you and look at you right

563
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,800
now, because someone else stole
something, you are now in

564
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,640
trouble and you are now risking
your life.

565
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,280
And that's what happened to me.
But at the end of it, she's

566
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,280
still luring them in here,
right?

567
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:20,240
And like you said, Athena is
Annabeth's mother, Poseidon, who

568
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,240
romanced her or raped her
basically, as they're getting to

569
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,200
here is Percy's father, right?
So wouldn't that be the ultimate

570
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,440
revenge, to change them into
stone?

571
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,600
Yeah, I mean it, it's
interesting, right?

572
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,000
Because she but she does say
lines like, you know, we are our

573
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,480
parents.
So like I'm curious how far she

574
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,320
was going to go because she also
does talk about how like I can't

575
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:46,520
be bullied anymore, like I got a
gift from the gods and it's to

576
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,160
not be bullied anymore and she
can turn people to stone that

577
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,640
she wants to, right.
So I think there is some

578
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:56,080
conflict going on with herself
and I don't know if she really

579
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,720
knows what she's supposed to be
doing, but she's doing what

580
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,640
she's doing right?
Because up top in her garden is

581
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,160
monsters.
Down below in her basement seem

582
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,480
like regular people holding a
cake.

583
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,240
Uncle Ferdinand kids, just
people, right?

584
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,040
I keep hitting my water bottle.
I'm going to move it.

585
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,120
So it's interesting.
I I'm not.

586
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,760
I'm not sure.
But I think that ultimately

587
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,600
people that may have seen her as
a monster, she has turned to

588
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,200
stone, right?
And she might have given them

589
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,520
the chance but they didn't take
it.

590
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,440
I I think it's really
interesting because we have

591
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,880
Percy who like doesn't have a
relationship with his father,

592
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,800
isn't too sure if he wants one,
right?

593
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,600
And it's like him waiting the
wreckage of his father this

594
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,480
whole time.
So it's like does he really

595
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:44,560
care?
He does.

596
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,320
But not like Annabeth sees her
mother.

597
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,320
And so for her to get that
perspective, I think is

598
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,840
tremendous growth for these
characters, especially 12 year

599
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,920
olds, right?
It's like she loves her mother

600
00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:00,000
and it's like, oh, my mother did
this, She thinks she's lying.

601
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,960
She's not lying.
Why would reduce a lie in this

602
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,320
aspect?
But it's it's interesting,

603
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,960
right?
Being in front of this person

604
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,680
who you've always seen as a
monster, telling you the truth

605
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,240
of what happened to them, or at
least their side of their

606
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,720
perspective of it, and you
going, oh gosh, but that goes

607
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,880
against everything I've been
taught my entire life.

608
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,400
So how does Annabeth deal with
that, right?

609
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,080
You know, and I think that is
part of her growth of, you know,

610
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,080
her maybe wondering that, oh,
maybe my mom isn't so perfect.

611
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,520
Yeah, I hope she does.
I mean, she, you know, we in

612
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,120
this scene or in this, this
episode, you know, we still

613
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,360
still see that, you know, the
cap that her mother gave her is

614
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,440
very important to her.
And like, Percy doesn't really

615
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,800
see it at first, but it is
important to Annabeth.

616
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,080
Even if Annabeth isn't going to
outright say it, Grover has to

617
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,720
say it.
So I think there is that thing

618
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,840
that both these demigods are
going through of I want my

619
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,640
parents approval, but maybe
they're not the best people to

620
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,720
get approval from, so maybe I
should look elsewhere.

621
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,280
That's I mean, it's honestly,
it's a very real problem, I

622
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,400
think.
I think that's a human problem

623
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:05,960
to go through.
Even when your parents aren't

624
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,560
Greek gods.
I think you for a long time can

625
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,640
put your parents on a pedestal,
but then at some point you might

626
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,360
realize that they're not perfect
after all.

627
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,200
Agreed.
And So what does that mean for

628
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:21,520
you when it kind of breaks the
image you've always had of them?

629
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,240
The and we just want to talk
about Jessica Parker Kennedy for

630
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,600
a second.
When we got to talk to the

631
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,520
costume designer Tish Monahan
about this particular thing,

632
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,080
also the production designer,
they both really talked about

633
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,680
the Medusa stuff and I feel like
they had so much fun with it,

634
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,400
right?
I love that Tish was talking

635
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,280
about one the veil, right?
They wanted something that was

636
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,440
like classic, but also fit with
the character.

637
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,200
Make sure you listen to our
behind the scenes episode

638
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,640
because she also talks about how
she had to like move the veil

639
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:51,240
last.
Minute.

640
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,520
The veil panic.
Yeah, but she talks about how

641
00:31:54,520 --> 00:32:00,320
like she wanted her outfit, like
her gown, to resemble like that

642
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,800
traditional Greek look of like a
statue.

643
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,840
And I think they nailed it.
I love that colour because it's

644
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,400
not grey, it's not like off
white or pink.

645
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:14,800
Yeah, it's like stone.
It's well, it's like Stone just

646
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,360
looks fantastic.
And she was so good as Auntie

647
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,760
Em.
Like you don't see her face at

648
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,120
all until the end, and only for
like maybe a minute.

649
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,800
But the way that she was able to
get you to care for her, get

650
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,320
terrified of her, sympathize
with her and everything without

651
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,520
even seeing her face?
Fantastic.

652
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,040
Yeah, Stinks look great and Oh
yeah, they did.

653
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,000
They're very cool.
I liked and a couple of the

654
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,440
close up shots that she still
had the head on, they weren't

655
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,080
like going crazy snaky, you
know?

656
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,720
They were just like lightly
coiling with themselves.

657
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:47,800
I.
Think they had said something

658
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,320
about that, right?
They said that like, they

659
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,720
didn't, they wanted it to act
like hair or like an extension

660
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,120
of her and not like, I mean,
let's face it, like the movie,

661
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,440
right?
It's just they're just like,

662
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,240
yeah, just crazy.
And also, I'm so glad there was

663
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,680
no iPod involved in this because
in the movie they use an iPod to

664
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,200
defeat Medusa is just so.
Bad.

665
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,520
Well, that's that's one of the
things that I loved about it.

666
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,360
I mean if you think about the
the look of the Emporium, right,

667
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:18,760
it is sort of like a a fifties
60s rest stop and I think she

668
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,080
even encompasses that.
Even take thinking of the name

669
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,920
Auntie M, like the Wizard of Oz
Auntie M.

670
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,280
It's all sepia tone.
It's all you know, classic

671
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,800
looking.
There is no technology in this

672
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,280
place except for maybe the neon
anti M sign.

673
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,360
Everything is just a classic
home.

674
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,560
She's dressed classically and I
think she's sort of living in

675
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:45,480
this moment of the past and even
when she takes the hat off,

676
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,240
she's still beautiful.
Yeah.

677
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,840
And and I think that's yeah, her
eyes and and she's not this

678
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,720
monster, right.
She's someone who's been cursed.

679
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:57,520
And so the beauty is still
there.

680
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,520
But if you look at the beauty
you will be punished.

681
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,920
So again, it's it's keeping her
in this cage.

682
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:06,560
How do you feel about, do you
think that she loved Athena like

683
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,560
more than like a deity?
Because I got kind of like

684
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,719
sapphic vibes a little bit, just
the way she was talking about.

685
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,760
And I think that's where it gets
a little like when you read

686
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,560
Greek mythology, it's like
everything seems gay because of

687
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,840
like, how much they, like,
devote themselves to things.

688
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,560
I was just curious about that.
I'm like, did she, like, love

689
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:25,920
her that way?
Like, I wouldn't.

690
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,159
I wouldn't mind.
I'm just saying.

691
00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:29,960
I'm just curious.
Well, you know, look, I think as

692
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,520
far as the gods and the monsters
are concerned, as we, I think

693
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,600
we've spoken about this before.
Sexuality is just not a thing.

694
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,400
Oh, I think it came up when we
were talking about Thor,

695
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,840
actually.
Oh, yeah, our bisexual God.

696
00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:43,880
And and maybe it's been more of
a look, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,

697
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,520
maybe.
Runs on the family.

698
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,679
But I think that that it kind of
runs through mythology in that

699
00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:57,240
there is love and there is
devotion and it doesn't have to

700
00:34:57,240 --> 00:35:01,360
be defined by man, woman, God,
human, monster, whatever.

701
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,320
It just is.
Gorgon.

702
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,200
Golgon.
That's true.

703
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,360
OK, that's beautiful.
I like that.

704
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,120
Yeah.
I just.

705
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,760
I kind of, I like.
I'm always curious about that.

706
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,880
Like how far they tip their toes
that way.

707
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,920
Like, especially with retellings
of Greek mythology.

708
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,080
It's like, are they going to do
it more of like a devotion, like

709
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,800
a life thing or love thing?
And I think it's hard to tell.

710
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:26,000
But I think either way, it's
kind of beautiful to like, I

711
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,160
don't know, just devote yourself
that way, especially when you're

712
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,240
not getting anything.
It's just like how how?

713
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,240
How does that work?
Well, I mean, if I need

714
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,800
something, if you think of
people who devote their lives to

715
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,920
modern religions, a lot of the
leaders like priests and nuns,

716
00:35:41,240 --> 00:35:44,880
that's the whole thing, that
they're so in love with God that

717
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,280
they can't love anyone else and
that's why they have to remain

718
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,800
single and celibate.
I mean teach their own but like.

719
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:54,640
I need something, but it's an
interest.

720
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,560
That's that's exactly it, right?
It's this ultimate faith, and I

721
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,640
think that that's what Medusa
had.

722
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,400
And to be scorned by the person
that you have the ultimate faith

723
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,400
towards and devoted yourself to
is what makes it even harder.

724
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:11,560
And especially the wrong person.
It's like, why would you think

725
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:16,440
that Medusa, the person that is
so devoted to you and is doing

726
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:21,000
offerings and worshipping you,
would embarrass you also

727
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,680
embarrass, You know what I mean?
It's just like the use of that

728
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,120
word, too.
It's like, why would you think

729
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,840
she would do that?
Like, why wouldn't you look at

730
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,560
Poseidon?
Well, like Poseidon is the

731
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,120
monster.
Here 100%, and I mean that's the

732
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,840
thing with these gods, is that
they're always self-serving.

733
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,920
So even if you look at Zeus and
Hera, Zeus continually cheated

734
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,600
on Hera.
And what did she do?

735
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:46,080
She would punish the women that
he was adulterous with.

736
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,200
So I.
Think they need to do some

737
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,040
critical thinking.
Yeah, and I don't think they're

738
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,800
very good at that.
They're very selfish and it's

739
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,920
all about them.
I mean, it does kind of go to

740
00:36:54,920 --> 00:37:00,640
like, not to bring up Talia the
tree, but like Talia is like the

741
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,320
daughter of Zeus.
And I like how Percy was like,

742
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:08,280
OK, so he turned his daughter
into a tree, like he couldn't do

743
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,000
anything else since, like fair.
But also, she's right there.

744
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,160
He couldn't lightening her back
to life.

745
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:20,720
Or, I don't know, intervene?
Yeah, and it's, you know, let's

746
00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:23,920
get into it.
So these these people, these

747
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:28,760
children, spend their lives
offering things and devoting

748
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:34,040
quests to their parents who
never show up and then can't

749
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,240
even help them when they're
about to die.

750
00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:41,120
They can only inadvertently help
them, which is very frustrating.

751
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,600
How about instead of changing
her into a tree, you make a tree

752
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,720
fall and block the monster's
path?

753
00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:48,800
There you go.
Is that too much to ask Zeus?

754
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,720
Your lightning?
What's that, Master Bolt?

755
00:37:51,720 --> 00:37:54,680
For you had it at that time.
I mean that this is, this is a

756
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,400
theme, right?
This is like one of the major

757
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,400
themes throughout this entire
series.

758
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,960
And there is a character that
that's like their whole

759
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,040
motivation.
It's misunderstood and

760
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,360
misguided, but that's their
whole motivation.

761
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,560
And I'm really excited to get to
that because I feel like these

762
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,320
characters, especially Annabeth
now meeting that or somebody

763
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,920
telling them, right, like your
mother did this to me, like your

764
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,600
mother's not all powerful and
all great, like she makes

765
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,880
mistakes.
I'm very excited for them to

766
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,760
come into contact with that
because I think Percy is like,

767
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,160
not totally sold on his dad.
Like he wants his approval and

768
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,040
he like, wants him to recognize
him, but like, also is kind of

769
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,000
like my mom better.
I'm going to, like, go do that.

770
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,360
So I'm very excited to get to
that stuff.

771
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,000
But they're still little tiny
children, so they need to kill

772
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:43,960
more monsters.
Yeah.

773
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,960
And and I think you're right and
and the fact that they're 12,

774
00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:50,680
whereas I think if they were a
little older and a little more

775
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,880
hormonal and a little more
angsty teenagers, there might be

776
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,200
a different reaction.
Yes, a little more stabby and

777
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,440
not listening than like.
A little more like I'm going to

778
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,560
turn on my rock music and be
angry in my room.

779
00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:04,360
They're not there yet.
Yeah.

780
00:39:04,720 --> 00:39:06,400
No, they're they're doing the
clapping consensus.

781
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:11,240
Yeah, so the fight with Medusa,
or should I say just kind of

782
00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:15,200
like handling her thing.
I loved it.

783
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,800
I loved them being down in the
basement with all those statues

784
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:22,080
of, like people and just normal
people and having to figure out

785
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,320
how we're going to do this
right.

786
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,400
I loved the use of the invisible
cap.

787
00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:30,520
It was so good because I can't
see her, so she can't turn me

788
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,200
into stone.
Annabeth so quick.

789
00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:36,960
She's just, she just stands
there, invisible and she's like,

790
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,440
peep.
It's so good.

791
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:41,880
I mean.
She is the daughter of the

792
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,480
Goddess of Wisdom.
It just makes sense.

793
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,440
It it really does.
After they have after Percy

794
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,600
finds her head on the floor
invisible.

795
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,200
Glad the cap stayed on.
Lucky imagine it didn't he like

796
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:54,800
reaches.
Oh.

797
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,200
What you didn't see was that
Annabeth pulled the snake

798
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,600
through the back of the cap so
that it stayed on.

799
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,040
Tied a knot.
Exactly.

800
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,400
Because they're they're still
moving, I would assume, right?

801
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,600
Because the power still works?
Yes, still alive.

802
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,960
It is an interesting thing with
Medusa.

803
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,000
Well, because I think in the
book, I don't think they've said

804
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,280
it yet in the show, but like,
even though when you kill a

805
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,240
monster, they turn to golden
dust and then they can come back

806
00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:25,960
later, Some of them, you can get
trophies from them.

807
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,000
So like the Minotaur Horn
Medusa's Head.

808
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,200
So what's is?
Is Medusa just going to grow a

809
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,000
new head, or is her head just
going to roll back to her body

810
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,360
eventually?
I mean, I think you could put it

811
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,080
back together, right?
So.

812
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,080
Or if you destroy both of them,
then she could come back.

813
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,440
I don't know how it works.
Me either.

814
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:45,920
It was, yeah.
I think we're just figuring this

815
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:46,880
out together.
Rick.

816
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,800
Becky.
Oh my God, I'm sorry.

817
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,160
I wanted to like, I'm going to
go back to the bus thing for

818
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,560
like one second because I think
one of the things we were

819
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,240
curious about was like, how does
the miss look to people?

820
00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:01,360
Because we don't really get that
in the book until, like, way

821
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,960
later.
But when elected, was like going

822
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,280
back to the back of the bus to
meet them, and that guy was like

823
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:11,080
bumping into Megan Mullally.
It was like she wasn't electo,

824
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,080
but she just kept doing.
Yeah, like bumping.

825
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,840
Also, I do love that this entire
Medusa scene electo is just like

826
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,040
standing in the garden with her
wing over her face.

827
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,480
She.
Stayed there the whole time, but

828
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:23,480
also.
Waiting.

829
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:28,000
Fair She's already gotten dusted
once she got snapped.

830
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,080
Thanos.
Well, this.

831
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,640
The scary thing is, is that it's
like I'd you'd rather get dusted

832
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,320
than look into Medusa's eyes,
because then you're stuck like

833
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,000
that forever.
Stuck like that forever.

834
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,400
Yeah, When she does, she does,
but she does break.

835
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:47,840
So I'm curious, right?
It's like Electo, we know does

836
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,320
come back at some point.
So she was turned to stone at

837
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,000
the end of this.
But then she smashes.

838
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,880
But she was like flying midway,
so like half of her got smashed.

839
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,360
I'm curious if she will come
back.

840
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:58,720
I don't know how it works.
We'll find out.

841
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,520
Yeah, that's true.
We will find out.

842
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:05,880
So before they get back up from
the basement, right, Grover is

843
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,800
literally talking about Uncle
Ferdinand.

844
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,720
And he's like, he doesn't look
scared, He looks proud and brave

845
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,000
and it's a really nice moment
for Grover.

846
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:19,440
And then Percy and Annabeth
start fighting again, guys in

847
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:24,240
front of his dead uncle.
He's mourning.

848
00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:27,880
Listen, OK, So what we've
learned about these kids is that

849
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:32,480
they do not look at grief the
same way, and they don't let

850
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,640
people grieve.
There's just their own pride on

851
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,000
the line here.
Also, Percy's like kill count is

852
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,680
up to three right now.
He has thousands more to go, but

853
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,840
like I'm keeping Tally, he's up
to three at the moment, so it's

854
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,640
like I think he's disassociating
from death alone.

855
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,040
Yeah.
And I think that, you know, when

856
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,640
you know that they're just going
to come back at some point, you

857
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:52,960
don't even feel that bad about
it.

858
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:57,200
Yeah, but they finally, like,
Percy sings the consensus song

859
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,800
and they all come back together.
But it wasn't before Grover was

860
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:05,280
fed up with them, right?
I love the the exchange between

861
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,280
Annabeth and Percy.
And he's like, you wouldn't even

862
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:09,880
tell us what Alexa was talking
about.

863
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,520
Like, what does she mean the
offer and stuff?

864
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,640
And she's like, she offered it.
So I did this and she was like,

865
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:15,960
what did Medusa talk to you
about?

866
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,960
And she's like, she offered to
take you guys out.

867
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,960
So I cut off her head, you know?
So it's just really great that

868
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:25,320
they like, oh, like we didn't
trust each other, but we do

869
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,760
trust each other because we
killed for one another.

870
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,000
Friendship.
Friendship.

871
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,880
It's.
Just the little tiny sparks of

872
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,600
Persimbeth that are happening.
And I, you know, as far as

873
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:40,560
series and movies go, I love
when characters are just honest

874
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,720
with each other.
They're not like, holding

875
00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:45,240
secrets from each other and
they're going to find out later

876
00:43:45,240 --> 00:43:46,720
and be mad about it.
It's like, no, this is what

877
00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:49,120
Electo said this one would do,
said, All right, let's keep

878
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,400
going.
They have to, right?

879
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,000
It's like you're going to be on
this quest together.

880
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,920
You guys have to have some
trust.

881
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,320
The scene with Percy carrying
the invisible head of Medusa up

882
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,760
to go get Electo was really
sweet because, like, you just

883
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,720
saw, I was going to say Percy,
Beth, you just saw Annabeth.

884
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:11,240
Just kind of like, oh, like he's
capable like this.

885
00:44:11,240 --> 00:44:13,560
Maybe I was a little too hard on
him.

886
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,160
Great.
So it's just a little tiny.

887
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,520
Twinkle of like really good
friendship and like Persebeth

888
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,960
brewing.
And believing in each other.

889
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,560
But let's also talk about the
hand acting of Walker Skova.

890
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,920
This is the head.
Always here it.

891
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,320
Is.
I'm curious if you had

892
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,320
something.
Like a green screen, head right

893
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,120
to always make it the same size.
Because that would be hard.

894
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,360
Yeah.
Is this right?

895
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:37,800
Is this how big?
This big.

896
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,880
OK, we have to end this episode
on a jump scare.

897
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,600
Slash.
I love that they did it.

898
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:52,400
Jump scare.
So, Percy being impertinent.

899
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,760
I love that I am impertinent.
They're like they'll find this

900
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,200
impertinent he's like I am.
Impertinent he is.

901
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,720
That is, that is the through
line of the Percy character.

902
00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:02,120
100.
Percent I am impertinent.

903
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:07,880
So he uses Hermes Express to
ship Medusa's or ship Medusa's

904
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,840
head to Mount Olympus.
And I love that, he says.

905
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,360
Best wishes.
Percy Jackson Heart stars and

906
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:18,840
horseshoes, yeah.
And we get to see Hermes, Lynn

907
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:23,760
Manwell, Miranda.
I was not expecting that Hermes

908
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,720
of the Hermes Express was the
one that was delivering the

909
00:45:27,720 --> 00:45:30,000
packages.
Yeah, of course it would.

910
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,240
I thought he had like a.
This package he probably would.

911
00:45:33,240 --> 00:45:35,480
That makes sense.
Like if it was anything else, he

912
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,320
was like, I can't wait.
I got to do this one.

913
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,440
They're going to love this.
But like his first lines are

914
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,720
singing, which it's like, we we
get it, he did.

915
00:45:44,720 --> 00:45:46,640
Hamilton he.
Should have been rapping.

916
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,840
But did not expect him.
As soon as I saw him, I was like

917
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,840
Lynn, OK Lynn.
And in the books, we actually

918
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,360
don't meet Hermes until the
second one.

919
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,920
Yeah.
So I like that they included him

920
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,240
here, but I know there is a
picture that was released with

921
00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:05,800
their like character
announcements that he's in the

922
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,320
casino.
So I'm curious if he's going to

923
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,120
kind of weave in a little bit
more in the first one.

924
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:12,240
I don't mind it.
Right, Yeah.

925
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,880
I don't mind it either.
And I think that, you know, when

926
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,560
we had spoken about the book, we
said that the chapters were very

927
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,960
episodic, right?
But I think what they're doing

928
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,800
here is that they're weaving
those chapters together a little

929
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,200
more, having people talk to each
other like Electo and Annabeth.

930
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,920
And I think him appearing later
is just kind of taking the

931
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,280
threads of certain characters
and really stitching them

932
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,320
throughout.
One of the things that we got to

933
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:39,680
ask the creators and showrunners
and directors was like, how did

934
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:48,000
you take a 5 Plus spin off
series book and like just do it

935
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,520
season by season, right?
It's like were you pulling

936
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:54,880
things from like the future to
like make it make more sense for

937
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,800
whatever?
And they said they didn't

938
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,440
really, right.
It's like they kind of just

939
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,360
stuck with it.
But there are some characters

940
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:05,680
that like it doesn't change much
when you see them here for their

941
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,480
impact later on.
But I think it's just more for

942
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,480
us to be familiar with them,
right?

943
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,080
It's like they already casted
Lin Manuel Miranda, so you've

944
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,080
got to use them at some point.
But I don't think they casted

945
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,000
Thalia yet.
So it's interesting, right?

946
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,120
It's like who are they going to
make come in a little earlier

947
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:22,240
and who are they going to do
later?

948
00:47:22,240 --> 00:47:24,600
But so Hermes is one of them.
I just loved it.

949
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,800
I love that the he put the key
in the 600 button came up.

950
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,320
There's no other buttons, just
600.

951
00:47:30,240 --> 00:47:31,720
And he was like, guys, you got
to see it.

952
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:37,880
I it also reminded me of when we
were able to interview the cast

953
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,760
and it was asked, you know what
God's would you be if you could

954
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,840
be any Greek God.
And I think Walter Walker

955
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,760
Scobell said I would be Hermes
just so I could be Lin Manuel

956
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,320
Miranda.
Fair.

957
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,000
I am a little disappointed
though.

958
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,200
So in in the second book, when
you first meet Hermes, he's like

959
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,880
in a jogging outfit.
Someone, I mean, I would have

960
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,880
loved to see him, but him in his
work outfit going up to the

961
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:06,840
Olympus just as great Yeah does.
It it was a great little Stinger

962
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:08,640
for sure.
This episode was probably my

963
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,760
favorite so far of the three.
I'd loved it.

964
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,480
I think there's so much
character development and back

965
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,440
story and building with these
characters.

966
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,400
It's like the first two is
introduction and like laying the

967
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,160
groundwork for the general
world.

968
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,600
This one was like, OK, we need
to get them to like hate each

969
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,280
other that like each other.
And it's all about building

970
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,040
trust from there.
Yeah, it's like we have to

971
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,280
believe this trio of friends.
And I think the exciting thing

972
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,720
about this is that it is really
a road trip adventure.

973
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,440
So every episode we're going to
be in a new place, seeing

974
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,760
something new and exciting.
So I think that's really

975
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,920
something to look forward to,
which I think makes every

976
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,960
episode feel like its own thing
rather than them just at camp

977
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,480
half pled for eight episodes.
Well, that's the thing, right?

978
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:51,200
It's like how?
Because in the book they're not

979
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,360
really there that much.
And Cam Hafler, but how do you

980
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:59,280
show enough of it to make an
impact to where you can then get

981
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,320
to the main part of the story,
right, is the quest.

982
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:03,840
That's where most of the stuff
happens.

983
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:08,400
So I think having it in like 1
full episode was enough.

984
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,400
Like, I think you got enough of
it and you understood it and

985
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,280
we're going to go back there at
some point.

986
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,240
If it gets a second season,
hopefully.

987
00:49:15,240 --> 00:49:19,360
I bet it should it.
Didn't have like 13.3 million

988
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,920
viewers or something like that.
It's going to get a second

989
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,160
season for sure.
Just do season three while

990
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,560
you're at it.
Disney get on it right now.

991
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,960
We all know these kid actors.
They they change real quick.

992
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,880
Yeah, so this is my favorite
episode.

993
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,640
So far so good.
I'm very excited for the next

994
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,480
episode.
These next couple episodes are

995
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:40,320
going to be insane.
But the Saint Louis Arch seems

996
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,800
to be one that's going to be
very fun.

997
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,240
Very excited for that.
Yeah, and I'm actually hoping,

998
00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:48,400
well, I'm, I'm looking forward
to seeing if they're going to do

999
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:52,440
that whole polluted water scene
where the water nymphs is trying

1000
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:53,800
to talk to him.
Water spirit.

1001
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,000
I think they are because on the
soundtrack they did say water

1002
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,040
spirit.
There you go.

1003
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,400
So we're going to get it.
So spoilers.

1004
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,480
The Chimera and Echidna are
next.

1005
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,320
Angry little poodles or
Chihuahuas or.

1006
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:07,440
Whatever.
Sunny.

1007
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,720
Sunny the Chihuahua, here we go,
destroying national monuments.

1008
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,360
That's what Percy Jackson does.
We also need to see if there's

1009
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,680
going to be that whole through
line of Gabe being on the news

1010
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,560
and everything.
I think this is what?

1011
00:50:20,720 --> 00:50:23,720
Well, yeah, I think this would
probably be when they start.

1012
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,680
Because it starts with the bus,
yeah.

1013
00:50:25,720 --> 00:50:28,200
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, we stopped to see the fates.

1014
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,320
Oh yeah, Fates.
I thought that was going to

1015
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,400
happen on this bus ride.
Oh, interesting.

1016
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,880
Very interesting.
What's on next?

1017
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,560
Week.
Lots of surprises.

1018
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:38,800
Goodbye.