'Percy Jackson' Episode 4: I Plunge to My Death

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Hey, I'm Derek.
And I'm Noah, and you're

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listening to A Bite of.
Where we take our current

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favorite pop culture obsession
and enjoy it 1 Nibble at a time.

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One nibble, 4 nibbles of Percy
Jackson.

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Halfway through the pie of Percy
Jackson.

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Oh my God.
Halfway through, we still have

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four more.
Right.

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Yeah, we still have four more.
That's insane.

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Well, I hope you've been
enjoying this as much as we

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have.
I feel like our last couple

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months have just been Percy
Jackson because we did a bunch

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of, like all that press and
we've seen it before everybody

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else.
So it's just like nothing but

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Percy Jackson.
And you know what?

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I think it's a fantastic world
to live in.

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It's heroes you can believe in,
gods that you question, and

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villains that are just
delightfully evil.

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That's the real world, pretty
much.

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Most of our villains aren't
delightfully.

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That's very true.
I mean, talk about current

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favorite obsession.
Like, I feel like I'm just

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obsessed with it.
Well.

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Yeah, you've really gone into
the deep end.

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Yeah, I'm just like, I couldn't
stop rereading the books.

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He's rereading all of the books.
Now, so OK, I just want to put

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this out there because I know,
especially people on YouTube,

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because we do put these up on
YouTube so you can watch our

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faces talk and listen at the
same time.

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We both have beards, yeah.
Surprise.

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But so a lot of people are like,
I can't wait until your next

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thoughts in the next book.
So what we're I'm going to do is

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when when the next season is
announced and it comes out

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before that we'll do the book.
So sorry to make you wait, but I

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couldn't wait to reread them.
So I'm like almost done or?

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You know who should apologize?
Who is Disney Plus for making

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everyone wait?
Yeah, I mean, they still haven't

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announced this season 2 I'm sure
we're going to get.

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It that's cuckoo crazy bananas,
Yeah.

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Speaking of more Percy Jackson
stuff, so on Patreon, we

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recently released a kind of like
hang out, just like a hang out

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with us.
But we do the cabin quiz that

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Disney put out and I really am
OK.

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I'm I'm starting to like, be
fine with my cabin.

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I think you should be.
You have no choice.

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Yeah.
Myself, on the other hand, I

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still feel like my results are
inconclusive.

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Yeah, I mean to find out what
they are just, you know, join

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Patreon, support the show and
you can find out what our cabins

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were in the journey for us to
get them.

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What our quest will be still is
remaining.

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But make sure you are subscribed
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because after this week, so
we're recording this before this

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episode drops because we are
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This is the last time we get to
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So to get alerts when we
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subscribed and then also just do
a little rating.

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We're still on our way to 200
reviews, so that'd be great if

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2024 we could finally reach that
goal.

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We always forget to ask.
I feel like we've been doing

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good and asking and it's been
working, so you know.

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I almost feel like if we ever
talk to anybody about our

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podcast, we always should say,
by the way, we're looking to get

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200.
No, just steal their phone and

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just do it.
That's actually easier.

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Let me do it for you and just.
Can I see your phone for a

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second?
Hang out.

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All right, so getting into the
episode, spoilers ahead.

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Anything from the last couple
episodes in the Percy Jackson

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book itself?
It could be spoiled so tread

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lately.
Yes, so let us officially take a

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bite of Percy Jackson and the
Olympians episode 4I plunge to

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my death.
In this episode, directed by

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Anders Angstrom and written by
Jonathan East Steinberg and Joe

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Trax, the trio travels by train
and tells tales of their

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family's pasts.
Danger in the dining car has

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Percy, Annabeth and Grover
escaping to a sanctuary where

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Percy has no other choice but to
go skydiving.

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You know, kid of a water God in
the sky, what could go wrong?

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Quite dangerous and in a very
precarious, you know, tall

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structure.
Yeah, it's not even just like a

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regular building.
And one that doesn't seem like

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it should work.
But Annabeth tells us it works.

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So this episode is the first
time where I was watching it and

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I was like a little longer, like
1015 minutes longer.

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Because it it did feel like it
just abruptly ended and the

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whole Saint Louis stuff just
happened so quickly.

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I was like just just a tiny bit
longer, right?

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Am I the only one feeling that?
Here, and I think in this

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episode in particular, there was
a lot of learning about our

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three characters, and so we were
listening very intently and the

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action didn't come until the
very end, but it almost felt

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like maybe that action could
have been a little longer.

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Well, and I also really liked
the action.

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And I really liked Echidna and
her son.

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And it's like I wanted more of
it.

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And I'm curious if in this
season we'll get more.

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I mean, I know Echidna, you
know, Percy Jacks and the

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Monsters don't really actually
die.

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It could be a month, a week,
years until they come back.

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But like, I want it a little bit
more.

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But that's like my only
grievance so far.

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This was the first episode where
I was like, that was quick.

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It was really quick little
snippet.

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Much like our friend Dionysus,
we always want more, more wine.

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We can't have it though, more
partying.

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So the opening of this episode,
I loved it.

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I love these little flashbacks
because we don't get this in the

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books and having these moments
where one getting to see

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Virginia play Sally more
fantastic.

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But I really liked it because it
showed a little bit of Sally's

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struggle with her kid.
Because her kid, Percy doesn't

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really seem like he he's very
strong willed, right?

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He's impertinent and she's
trying to teach him how to swim,

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which should come naturally.
And she knows it does.

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But like, he's very defiant of
it.

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And there's a a part where she
looks at the other parents and

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the parent is kind of 1, giving
him a side eye, which, come on,

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they're all kids.
But I felt bad for her because

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she's kind of like, I just want
like this normal thing.

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And it's also very important for
you to know.

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Right.
You know, and I think that's

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part of Sally's whole journey in
raising Percy is that it'll

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never be normal, you know?
And so she always needs to be

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looking out for him and thinking
about how she can prepare him

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for the future and the things
that might come into his life

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that could be dangerous.
Now, I do think it's interesting

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that Percy does have this
aversion to water in this scene,

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and I and I was just trying to
think of why I.

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I couldn't tell if it was to the
water or to, I don't know, fully

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trusting it.
You know what I mean?

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Like they did seem a little odd
that like he didn't want to do

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it, but I mean, did he really
have powers back then?

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Like, was he Would he have been
saved?

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Right?
I mean, I guess in my mind at

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the child of Poseidon would walk
on water always and just be

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surrounded by a bubble and have,
you know, powers.

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But you know, maybe for a kid,
water is just scary, you know?

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And just because, I mean, when
he's that young, the only thing

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that really happens for him in
regards to him being a demigod

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is that he sees things that
aren't there.

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So that's not like he always had
an affinity for water control.

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It's like not part of the
package deal.

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No, not yet.
I love what his mother tell, or

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actually what he tells his
mother reminds his mother is to

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just breathe, which as soon as I
heard that, I was like, OK, it's

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going to come in later.
Like just breathe underwater,

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Percy.
But like it was very sweet.

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I I'm loving these like, very
uplifting things that Sally

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keeps telling him.
Like, you know, brave brace,

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brace yourself, Brave the storm.
And now like, just breathe.

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It's like she's very
motivational.

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Yeah.
And I think that that, again, is

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her just planting these little
seeds of like, things are going

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to get hotter than this child.
Well, she tells him outright,

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Like this is important for you
to know how to do this.

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Really.
You will die?

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Yeah.
What I was going to say, really

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what this scene is showing us is
how to be a very patient parent

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rather than just lifting him up
and throwing him in the water.

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That's how I learned my
grandfather literally just like,

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threw me into the pool and.
I I I'm here so And you can

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swim.
It works, We think.

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Sure I can swim.
Were you not on the swimming

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team?
I feel like you did everything

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in high school.
No, I did not join the swimming

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team.
I refused.

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I was like, no, not for me, not
for you, No.

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I I I can't breathe underwater
like I don't want to do.

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That much like Percy's fears, it
seems.

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I did, however, have the early
2000s Michelle Branch hit in my

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head.
Breathe.

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I won't sing it because you're
rolling your eyes and obviously

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you don't want to hear it.
I'm not rolling my eyes in that

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you were going to sing.
I'm rolling my eyes that it took

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like less than 10 minutes for.
Well, I let the conversation

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flow a little bit, but I had to
bring it up because I love

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Michelle Branch.
But I won't sing it because I

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cannot hit those notes because
it is out of my range.

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No.
Your strengths.

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Those notes are not one.
Before we leave this flashback

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slash, I guess, dream sequence
with Percy, we get Kronos again

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saying she is coming, which we
know later on is, I'm assuming

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talking about echidna, but why
is he warning her?

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Or is it more of just like
playing with his food, You know,

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it's like she's coming.
Yeah, and so the The Furies are

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from Hades, yeah.
Is a kidnap not.

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All monsters are kind of from
the underworld.

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Like that's where they go and
then reform and then like come

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back.
I just know.

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I don't know.
But like, I just am assuming

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that Hades does have dominion
over all of that, but I don't

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think he's necessarily in
control of every single.

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He's not like the ruler.
Right.

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Exactly.
But he can.

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I don't know.
He can send them.

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I don't know.
I have no idea.

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If you know let me know.
Maybe he could just call up

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whoever he wants.
So this a big chunk of this

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episode takes place in the
train, which I really liked

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because I know from what I
remember in the book, the train

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did not take long.
It was more of like they got on

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the train, they're off nothing.
Happens, they go sightseeing.

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Right.
And I actually really liked how

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they structured this episode
because when we were rereading

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it in our episode, we were like,
why did they go to the arch?

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Like, OK, yes, Annabeth loves
architecture and she wants to go

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see it.
But like you have, you have a

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timeline, a deadline, and also
you're just on a layover, you

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can't do that.
So I liked in this before we get

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to the thing, it made sense,
like everything starts on the

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train.
What the show is doing is it's

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giving more of a driving force
behind the decisions that they

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make and the actions that they
take.

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Also, for adults to be like that
doesn't make any sense.

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Right, right.
Because it would be kind of,

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especially with Lea Savage,
Jeffrey's depiction of Annabeth,

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for her to kind of just be
carefree being like, hey guys,

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let's just go to the yard
because it's fun.

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Yeah, you know, I mean, they
could have had an excuse because

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in this they talk about how the
arch is Athena's temple.

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So it could have made sense for
her to be like, yeah, let's,

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let's go ask my mom for help.
So they could have done that,

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but I liked the extra step of
like they had to get off the

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train because they're like,
wanted.

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Yeah, and maybe cross country
trains going from New Jersey to

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LA don't actually stop in Saint.
Louis, I also would not want to

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do that.
Just saying no way.

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So the one of the first things
that we get from our trio in the

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car, which I loved, how they
were kind of just set up like a

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sleepover, like Grover's Up top
and a Best This way and Percy's

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this way.
But Percy asks about Thalia.

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It's actually really hard for me
to, like, remember how to say

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her name Thalia like that,
because I always thought it was

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just Thalia.
I don't know.

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Whatever.
It's that TH.

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Yeah.
We got to stick to it.

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So there's a there's a
conversation, right?

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So there's the three, the big
three, Hades, Zeus, and

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Poseidon.
And they were forbidden to have

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kids, and he asks about her
because she was the forbidden

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kid before him and she just
didn't care.

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So it's kind of like a jab that
Annabeth is like kind of not.

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I would OK, I shouldn't say jab,
but more of like trying to tell

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him like she didn't care that
she was like a big three kid or

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a forbidden kid.
She was just who she was and she

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was good at what she did.
Percy doesn't really understand

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that yet, and I feel like she
Annabeth is still making him

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work to let her in.
And she does say that she like,

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clearly she's he's like, is that
what you're doing to me?

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And she's like, yeah, maybe.
And you know, it's for for

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Percy.
He's just learned all of this

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stuff about himself and and he's
right away been told, well,

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actually you're a forbidden kid
and it's really bad.

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So that's really how he's seeing
everything of I'm not supposed

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to be here.
Everyone's mad at me.

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And then when he hears about
Thalia, who just was a bad ass,

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you know, and didn't let those
things hold her back, and so

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he's been told this whole time
that you should not exist.

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And also that, like Annabeth
holds her up here and it's like,

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OK, so if I am like her, why am
I not up here with her with how

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you feel?
And you know, I I am in Team

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Annabeth here, where it's like
you, like you said, you don't

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know anything yet.
You don't understand like your

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role in this, and you should,
but you should be more willing

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to like, understand.
It feels like she wants him to

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earn his stripes, which are
unfair.

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You know, prove yourself to me
because literally you're just

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some kid I met about a week ago
and now I'm supposed to be

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taking care of you on this
quest?

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Granted, it's a prophecy which
she truly believes in, but she

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still doesn't know him.
Well, and I think this is where,

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like there's a a side where
Annabeth is correct and there's

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a side where Percy is correct.
Because in the same conversation

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he talks about, like, how the
gods talk to them.

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And he talks.
He he says, you know people that

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you care about.
You don't talk to people that

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way.
You don't treat them this way.

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He's right.
But also he doesn't understand

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that culture.
And I there's a a shot with it

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shows Annabeth's face.
And she kind of is like, I mean,

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yeah, but like, what are you
going to do?

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Yeah, I think there's nothing
you can do.

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This is just how it is.
Yeah, these are the two sides of

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the coin that I think that we
saw in the last episode where

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Medusa is saying to her, no, but
you don't understand this is

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what really happened and Percy
is is sees that perspective as

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well.
Whereas again, Annabeth is very,

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very loyal to her mother and
very loyal to the gods.

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And so it's interesting because
they are the same coin.

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It's just seeing it in a
different perspective, you know?

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And basically for Percy, he's
like, well, the example I've had

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of a parent.
Is abandonment.

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No.
Well meaning is.

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Sally oh is amazing.
Is amazing.

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Exactly Who is always been there
for me?

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Who is taking care of me?
Who has done whatever she can as

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a single parent to make sure I'm
OK?

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And then you're telling me that
I'm supposed to worship the

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person that has literally done
nothing for me, right?

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And so he's seen that other side
where Annabeth hasn't had that

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other perspective.
Well, she kind of has, though

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only in her story, in that in
the abandonment part, because.

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Oh, I I meant of the good human
parent.

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Oh, to compare to.
So all she knows is well up.

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My good parent is the parent
that I make offerings to.

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That's the one that's saying
care of me because my human

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parent left me.
And that abandons her, Yeah, in

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like 10 minutes.
What a guy.

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No, her mother.
Oh, oh, oh.

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That's true.
Athena But Speaking of her back

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story, we do learn a little bit
and she she kind of talks how

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like she was the thought from
the head and the blah blah and

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was given to the dad and like it
was too much for them.

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Dad met the stepmom.
They have kids.

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It's too much.
Why would you want somebody that

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has monsters attracted to them?
And so she left.

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And I thought the way they
delivered this, you know, her

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delivery's great.
I did think it was quick, right?

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Because this is a big thing for
Annabeth 1 to talk about her,

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her back story.
And also it's kind of one of the

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more tragic ones, at least
initially, that it's like, sure,

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mother can't do anything right.
She's not even part of the big

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three, right?
So it's like her mother could be

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more involved, but she's a God
and her dad just didn't really

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fight for her.
So she had to fight her way to

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somebody or something, camp half
blood that would accept her.

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And it's.
I don't know, it's just really

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heartbreaking because she was 7
and she did that, I mean.

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And they say that Luke and
Thalia found her.

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So it wasn't even like they came
to pick her up.

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It was like she was trying to
find a place and they got her.

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And so this little 7 year old
was trying to figure out and at

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7 years old to to realize that
you've been abandoned and you've

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someone else has been chosen
over you.

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I mean and that's something
that's interesting is that I

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think a lot.
I I say a lot.

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Oh well, they're only 12 years
old.

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And it's like, yes, for the
situations that they're in,

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they're only 12 years old.
But in a theory that I have is

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because they are demigods, they
see things a little differently,

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right.
They might be actually a little

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more mature than the other kids
around them because they're half

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God.
Or at least taking a few more

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seconds to like look at
something or like understand

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something, yeah.
It's like what?

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7 year old, yeah, what?
7 year old would do that, you

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know.
Peace by Dad.

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And actually leave, not just get
down the driveway.

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Exactly not hide in the
basement.

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One of my favorite moments of
this episode is when they talk

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about Grover being Frufy.
I love it.

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Sleepy baby Grover.
He's like, I'm not frufy, you're

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frufy.
He's a little.

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Frufy and it's moments like that
though, because it's like we

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have these conversations that
they're having about gods and

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letting people in and blah blah
blah.

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But they they can still talk
like that to each other.

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And I just love how Grover's
just like sleeping up there.

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He's thinking or whatever.
The one of the more important

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things that we do find out is,
you know, his Uncle Ferdinand

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was a searcher, was a seeker
looking for pan, and that's kind

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of what Grover wants to do.
But he hasn't been able to do

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that.
And you know it it really kind

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of begs the question of all of
these satyrs who have gone out

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to look for Pan, who haven't
returned it.

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I always sort of thought like,
what happened, right?

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They oh, they failed.
But in reality, is Pan really

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out there and these monsters are
just stopping them?

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Yeah, I mean it.
It's it's a this Grover becoming

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somebody that searches for Pan
is like his series purpose.

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Once we get past this, if you
read the books, you'll know

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that, like, it goes beyond that.
So it takes a little bit for us

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to really get anything with
that.

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But I do think it's interesting,
right?

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It's like these satyrs work for
this thing to hopefully find a

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thing that they said was dead,
but like they know isn't dead

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but they have no idea where it
is.

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But they just know that humans
are destroying the Earth.

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Like once Pan disappeared.
Humans are like, I'm going to

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kill the Earth now.
Well, there was nothing to

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protect it, right?
There was no barrier between

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humanity and the natural world.
And you really get to see that

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in this episode with Grover.
How the way humans have treated

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the world is very upsetting to
him and to Seders alike.

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It is no, absolutely.
And and I really agree with it,

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even you know the way that we.
They are seeing these centaurs

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running freely and how they used
to be everywhere because of

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humans.
They aren't anymore.

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And there's only three.
Yeah.

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And so I was like wondering
like, what do maybe those are

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Buffalo that humans see horses
or horses and they kill them and

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you know, it's pretty horrific.
Oh.

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My God.
All right, Well, on a less sad

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note, a kidna.
Yeah, things get real cheery

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after this.
I love it so far.

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Whenever they like, show a
monster coming into the scene.

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So with the Minotaur and now
Echidna, it's like it showed

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outside the train and then just
like flying and then going

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straight into the train.
That was pretty baller.

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So Cool wrecked their cabin,
though.

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She did that on purpose.
Well, she did, and she blames it

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on them.
So I was really wondering like,

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OK, a big or like a subplot
actually throughout some of the

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books is like Percy trying to
evade the law because he blows

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stuff up and things happen and
like mortals don't see what he's

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saying.
They just see like a kid with a

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a bat and like making things
blow up.

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And so I was wondering, are they
going to like have the

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authorities after him?
Because it's like it is a fun

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thing, right.
And that's why they also have to

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stay more in hiding.
Yes.

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Now we know.
So the cop comes to them and

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he's like, you know, let me see
your tickets or whatever.

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And it's like, is this your
cabin?

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And it's completely destroyed.
And they're like, did you do

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this?
And he's like, how?

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Yeah, how would I have blown a
hole through the train?

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12 year old do.
You see us?

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Do you think we have explosives
on us?

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What is happening, Sir?
But let me tell you, when a very

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intense white lady in a tweed
jacket tells the Authority

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something, apparently they
listen.

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She is so menacing.
I literally.

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OK, let me see if I have it in
my notes.

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So Susan Crier, who plays
Echidna, the mother of monsters,

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love this character in Greek
mythology and love her in this

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book or in the series.
But I took.

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But she's terrifying, sickly,
sweet because she's like, just

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so like, you can't tell at
first.

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Like, are you helping me?
Like, why do you want to talk to

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me?
And she's just.

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Everything she's saying is just
with like kind eyes but not

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quite a smile.
It's so menacing.

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It's and and Suzanne Crier does
this so well where she just like

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you are expecting her to be kind
and helpful, but she's so

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venomous in everything that
she's saying and she's getting

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such joy out of, like, putting
them in this situation.

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And she's like, oh, these poor
little babies don't.

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Worry.
But then she blames it on them.

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And it's like, OK, like you're
you're crazy and terrifying, but

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I really like you.
I I like your look and I like

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the way you're you're delivering
these lines.

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And also the way she was talking
to her Chimera in the the dog

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carrier.
I just that's exactly what you

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kind of want from this
character, right?

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And it's like they're talking to
her and she like kind of ignores

448
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,600
them to like tend to her child.
It's just so good.

449
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,680
I like that she the Chimera.
She's training the Chimera with

450
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,240
what she thinks is going to be
like an easy kill of three child

451
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,360
demigods.
She's like, don't worry baby,

452
00:23:39,360 --> 00:23:42,360
it's it'll be easy, They'll
you'll track them.

453
00:23:42,360 --> 00:23:45,360
It'll be fine.
They're like, see, this is prey.

454
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,000
Yeah.
Are you hungry?

455
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,040
It's so good.
I really like the scene of,

456
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,280
like, them trying to get away
from them, right?

457
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,080
And they're going between cars.
And also the police are after

458
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,920
them.
But the first scene that we get

459
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:06,160
with the Chimera, I guess,
Stinger coming out and hitting

460
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,880
Percy immediately, and then you
hear Echidna be like you.

461
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,240
You went a little too fast
there.

462
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,000
You you got ahead of yourself
now, like you're killing him.

463
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,360
Yeah, when that happened, I I I
audibly was like, whoa, I was

464
00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:21,640
not expecting that at.
All good.

465
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,480
And I love that we get these
little shots of what mortals

466
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,720
see, of what's happening.
So like they're on one side of

467
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,360
the door.
Cops are in another and

468
00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:34,280
something's coming down the
thing and you see this family

469
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,680
look out their car door, which,
by the way, where are all these

470
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:42,240
trains that have that where
they're like private rooms with

471
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,280
it's like the Harry Potter.
Tricks and The dining car had

472
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,080
like a full wall and ceiling of
windows.

473
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,520
Where is it Georgina?
But so, like, they just see a

474
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,080
little Chihuahua.
Yeah, it's like a little

475
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,440
Chihuahua.
And it's like, OK, so they're

476
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,920
just this, this Chihuahua and
everything else around it is

477
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,360
breaking.
It's just hilarious.

478
00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:02,120
I love it.
I love, like, seeing what the

479
00:25:02,120 --> 00:25:05,240
mortals actually see.
But this brings us to Saint

480
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,120
Louis, right?
And so Percy is now poisoned,

481
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,920
which it gets progressively
worse through this episode.

482
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,840
And Annabeth comes up with the
idea of, OK, well, we have

483
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,680
Echidna chasing us with her
Chimera.

484
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,480
We're in Saint Louis.
We'll go to my mother's temple,

485
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,400
which is Saint Louis Arch.
Yeah, I love.

486
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,280
A feat of architecture.
Yeah, and I love her just

487
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,440
geeking out about the
architecture.

488
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,120
I love that they kept that with
the character because she in the

489
00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:34,480
book, she wants to be an
architect.

490
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,600
She has this affinity for it.
And she explains that, you know,

491
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,720
her God, her parent, isn't just
about like strategy and war.

492
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,600
It's also about building and
rebuilding, so I like that

493
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,920
aspect of her.
I think in this scene, well,

494
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:53,840
these scenes at the Arch, we we
get to see a little more of them

495
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,960
develop right where we see
Annabeth really kind of looking

496
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,320
at this place as representing
her mother and how much she does

497
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,120
love her and she, you know,
really looks up to her.

498
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,840
We see Percy silly side a little
bit here, and then his heroic

499
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,520
side later on.
And with Grover again we see

500
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:15,440
that that affinity for the
natural world and looking around

501
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,120
at all of the stuffed dead
taxidermy creatures, how upset

502
00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:21,600
he gets.
So we're digging a little bit

503
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,480
more into who they are and what
makes them who they are.

504
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,600
It's it's a really interesting
episode, even though it's so

505
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,400
short.
We do get those moments right.

506
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,800
There's actually some of the
conversation before we got here,

507
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,400
which I thought was interesting
because you brought up the

508
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,880
perspective of like what what is
Percy's perspective going into

509
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,240
this and what is Annabeth's?
And I liked what Echidna was

510
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,880
doing and when she was talking
to them and her Chimera and she

511
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,840
was talking, she was pretty much
saying like, oh, you think we're

512
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,200
the monsters.
You don't think you're the

513
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,160
monster here.
You don't think that you're the

514
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:55,640
burden of your parents?
Mistake.

515
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,080
Like who's going to be killing
who here?

516
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,080
First of all, how dare you Well.
I just, I I like that thought,

517
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,920
even though like, I don't.
I think she's wrong.

518
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,840
Mostly right, but I do think
it's interesting because they

519
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:14,160
didn't choose to be demigods.
Most of the monsters didn't

520
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,440
choose to be monsters.
I think it's an interesting

521
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,400
thought and I'm curious if it's
going to actually be explored

522
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,120
later.
Well, I think, you know, there's

523
00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:27,600
always that thought of when
you're looking at it from a

524
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,520
particular perspective.
They're the main character of

525
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,880
their story.
They're the one that is doing

526
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,280
right.
The Echidna story.

527
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,320
Exactly.
That is the that is the spin off

528
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,160
series that we need.
I'd read it, but it's a it's a

529
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,760
it's a sitcom about a mom who
has too many babies.

530
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:43,400
Oh.
My God.

531
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,520
Go get your little sister Poison
Thoughts are running out.

532
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,200
But.
But the then, to your point, we

533
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,440
do get to see all three of them
kind of play to their strengths

534
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,240
or act kind of how they're going
to act as a unit, right?

535
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,360
It's like Grover is very
sensitive to the natural world

536
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,400
and end of us trying to think
with her head and be smart about

537
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,160
it.
And Percy is doing

538
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,600
impersonations of his of her
mother I.

539
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,480
Really.
Do hope that she's British,

540
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,680
because Percy gave her a little
British accent and I really

541
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:15,920
love.
Her.

542
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,560
What did he say?
He said something of like, I'll

543
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,520
be down in a second.
I'm just in the potty.

544
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,080
I'm just.
In the potty, Yeah, that's

545
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,440
exactly what it was.
It was like.

546
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,760
Stupid.
So funny.

547
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,920
But I love he.
He drops, right?

548
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,680
So the poison is finally gone
from him System.

549
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,280
He's dropped.
So then what do they do?

550
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,000
They drag him outside, They put
him in a fountain and they're

551
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,200
just like splashing him.
Like he's a beach whale is.

552
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,240
That like, people are walking by
and it's like, oh boy.

553
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:43,640
I It's one of the funniest
scenes so far, but I also like

554
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,080
Annabeth being Annabeth and she
was like it's not working.

555
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,040
Does it have to be running
water?

556
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,720
Like what?
Dunk his head, Moss.

557
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,400
And I probably right because
that fountain water is just

558
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,920
recycled so.
Like it must be natural.

559
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,440
Lake, Sea.
The ocean.

560
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,040
But I do think it was smart on
their part, you know?

561
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,760
OK, so now we're getting to
again, their godly parents being

562
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,400
assholes.
Echidna is able to come into the

563
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,000
supposed temple of Athena.
Why?

564
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,720
Because Percy, being
impertinent, sent Medusa's head

565
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:27,840
to Olympus, and now Athena is
embarrassed, just like she made

566
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,560
Medusa Medusa because she
embarrassed her in her temple.

567
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,120
So she's like, I don't care if
my daughter dies.

568
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,400
I'm embarrassed.
I mean like.

569
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,200
They need to get over
themselves.

570
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,440
Yeah, I don't.
It's rude, right?

571
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,600
It's like, so you're going to
let all of them die?

572
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,880
Like what do you what is your
plan here?

573
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,760
Yeah, maybe for Athena, because
babies just pop out of her face

574
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,640
or whatever.
Like it's not that big of a

575
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,360
deal.
She's like, I can replace her.

576
00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,040
It doesn't matter.
I mean true right?

577
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,640
It is really messed up though
and it like it makes me think

578
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:08,800
like, how so?
Like Aries gave Clarice the

579
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,640
spear, Annabeth has the
invisible cap from her mother.

580
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,280
It's like, how did she get that
from her mother?

581
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,040
Was it like because she got to
camp and she approved of her or

582
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,040
whatever?
And it's like, but now you're

583
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,640
just going to, like, cut her
off, which is I'm very

584
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,120
interested to see, like, how far
this is going to go, right?

585
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,240
It's like, how much is she not
going to be able to rely on her

586
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,240
mother?
And is she going to have to do

587
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,400
something to get back into her
good graces?

588
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,720
Yeah.
I mean, the package didn't say.

589
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,760
Best wishes Percy, Annabeth and
Grover.

590
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,520
They all know they're with them,
though.

591
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,360
I you know what though, these
they're so sensitive.

592
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,560
It's the best wishes.
Percy Jackson.

593
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:53,760
Also, Annabeth is right here.
And my two best friends who also

594
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,800
made this decision, Annabeth and
Grover.

595
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:02,080
So Percy fully poisoned.
Percy's very, very poisoned here

596
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,480
to get to the top of the arch,
which I've been there.

597
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,000
I don't remember those
elevators.

598
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,480
Pods of some sort.
Don't remember them at all.

599
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,840
Those child size elevators could
be there.

600
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:21,800
Don't remember those.
I wanted there to be almost a

601
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,440
bigger fight.
Like I know that like some of

602
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,480
the bigger stuff happens later
on, but I the chimera.

603
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,520
The entrance of this chimera is
so cool.

604
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,880
I love the design of it because
you can tell it's just like

605
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,920
young but also like ancient at
the same time.

606
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,160
And I just love like the scales
going into the fur and then

607
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,200
going into the IT is incredible.
So, so cool.

608
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,520
I wish there was a little more,
right?

609
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,280
So it's like he doesn't do much.
He kind of gets like one or two

610
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,280
slashes in him, I guess.
To be fair, he's been at camp

611
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,720
for like 2 days.
Yeah, it's interesting because

612
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,720
the the fantastical part of me
is like, this should have been a

613
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,840
really fun battle.
The, the, the very real part of

614
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:13,960
me is like, well he if if we
remember at camp, he sucked so.

615
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,000
He's good at sword fighting.
Yeah, but he wouldn't be good in

616
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,680
this situation, especially if
he's poisoned as well.

617
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,000
It's like, So I guess it makes
sense that it just kind of all

618
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,360
falls apart, right?
But I agree.

619
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,280
I wish there was a little more
meat to the fight.

620
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:34,160
We also do get to see Percy's
like fatal flaw in this scene as

621
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,920
well because Annabeth is like
being the rational person and

622
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,600
saying go get him somewhere to
help because my mother can't

623
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,400
help.
I will try to do this, which she

624
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,840
survived when she was seven, got
all the way to Camp Half Blood

625
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,040
and has been training ever
since.

626
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,040
I would trust.
Her Yeah, she's fantastic with

627
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,920
the dagger and she has her
invisibility hat.

628
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,320
Yeah, she has better chances
than poison, Percy.

629
00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:00,720
And Percy doing the smoothest
transition from being helpless

630
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,160
to like.
Oh, here, take my sword.

631
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,160
Whoop switches, puts his two
friends out there, and that's

632
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,360
his fatal flaw, is just being so
loyal and doing anything,

633
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,880
especially for these two.
I thought it was real smooth and

634
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,520
I was like, that's Percy.
That is Percy.

635
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,720
You shouldn't have done it, but
that's Percy, right?

636
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,320
Definitely.
And you know, it really was a

637
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:26,080
slick moment.
And he knows that this is his

638
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,360
quest and he doesn't want anyone
else to take the fall during it

639
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,760
other than himself.
A different a difference here

640
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,360
from the book is I felt like in
the book, once there is that

641
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,160
gash in the arch.
The hole.

642
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,600
The hole, yeah, he in the book
deliberately jumps out as a way

643
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,360
of escape.
But here again, that very sort

644
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,680
of real depiction of this is a
12 year old kid who has

645
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,640
absolutely no training.
Yeah, he would get knocked out

646
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,240
of it and he would be holding on
and then fall like, yeah, yes,

647
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,840
that makes absolute sense.
I think both of them were

648
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,160
fantastic.
I I like the one in the book

649
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:09,199
because we get him kind of for
the first time reaching out to

650
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:13,120
his father and like praying to
him and being like, please like

651
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,719
don't make this suck.
Like, let me let this help you

652
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,360
know, and I also like in the
book how it's like they're

653
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,400
directly over the water somehow.
Yes, that's not how this works.

654
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:27,639
Like the arch is not over water.
I like how in the show it shows

655
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,760
it's nowhere near the water.
So when he's hanging on, I was

656
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:35,000
like, wait, like how?
How is he going to like, do

657
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,480
this?
Like, is he going to like I kept

658
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:38,440
flying?
Squirrel it.

659
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,280
Like, I was like, did he put the
Maya shoes on?

660
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:43,719
Like, did that happen?
Nope.

661
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,040
No, he didn't.
No.

662
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,920
And just like a thing of water
comes and grabs him and puts

663
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:48,880
him.
That makes sense.

664
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,440
Yep, of course it was that.
But the whole scene of him, like

665
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,639
falling how it was in like,
first person, it looks really

666
00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:57,640
intense.
I mean, from superhero movies,

667
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:58,800
right?
It's like we've seen tons of

668
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,640
people fall.
And having that point of view,

669
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,360
this was really well done.
Yeah, Like I I liked the way it

670
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,600
felt and looked it.
It seemed like they kind of just

671
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,080
dropped a GoPro, just like.
I think what?

672
00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:12,120
Also on On Walker's chest and
then they.

673
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,640
Really did that to him.
They really did to him.

674
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,520
I think what also added to the
intensity of this was the fact

675
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,920
that like, we didn't know that
the water was going to come and

676
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,080
grab him.
So there was those few seconds

677
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,800
of going, wait a minute, how is
Percy going to survive this?

678
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:28,960
How is he going to get out of
this?

679
00:35:29,240 --> 00:35:33,480
So it really did make it a very
like wild scene to watch as a

680
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,520
viewer wondering how it was
going to end up.

681
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,720
He ends up in the water.
We knew that.

682
00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:40,200
The Dirty water.
How?

683
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:41,880
We didn't know, but he got in
there.

684
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,600
He got in there.
And then we get the first look

685
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,120
at the water spirit.
Couldn't really see her.

686
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,680
No, she's in the back.
It's murky.

687
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,280
Well, it's also disgusting.
Yeah, in there.

688
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,920
It's like gross.
But the call back from the

689
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,480
beginning of the episode of Just
Breathe comes back and he's able

690
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,000
to breathe underwater.
Yay.

691
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:05,120
But I do like what she says.
And again, this is like a theme

692
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:09,000
throughout the series and it's
going to be a conflict with

693
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,200
Percy and his father of like all
of these things saying you

694
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,120
should just trust your father,
you should just pray to him, you

695
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,880
should whatever.
And he's like, how can I do that

696
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:25,040
when one my mother's gone and in
the underworld and also he's

697
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,400
never come to see me.
How am I supposed to do this?

698
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,560
Right then the spirit tells him,
your father is here.

699
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,880
He's always been here.
He's very proud.

700
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,440
Trust him.
Trust in yourself.

701
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,480
It's like, OK, get an
affirmation, water spirit.

702
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,480
We love that.
We all need that in our lives,

703
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,560
right?
We just need that little water

704
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,400
spirit come tell us to believe
in ourselves, yeah?

705
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:52,400
I couldn't tell, though.
Like, was that Virginia Kroll's

706
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,600
voice?
Oh, interesting.

707
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,880
I want to we have to wait to
watch it again.

708
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,640
But let me actually, no, you
guys let me know.

709
00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:02,040
Comment below.
Just like, was that Virginia's

710
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,320
voice?
Because I know in the book it's

711
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,880
like he thinks it is his mother,
right?

712
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,640
And I don't know if that's just
him being woozy, but I'm curious

713
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,000
if it was her voice to make it
seem like it was his mother.

714
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,880
Comforting.
And that's how the episode ends.

715
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,680
Yeah, it's it's quick.
A lot.

716
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,680
It's quick, yeah.
And so we have 4 episodes now to

717
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:28,840
get to LA and then back to New
York eventually.

718
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,760
So there's a lot of literal
ground to cover.

719
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:32,960
There's a lot of country to
cover.

720
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,160
How are they going to get there?
I don't know, but in Saint

721
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,120
Louis, the next episode is that
when we meet Aries.

722
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,760
Oh, I would think so, right.
Because like, we're still

723
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,360
waiting and this is just going
off of stuff in the trailer,

724
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:46,520
right?
So we're not going to spoil

725
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,080
anything.
Still waiting to see the Fates.

726
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,240
Maurice does show up, so they
have to get to a diner at some

727
00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:54,160
point.
I want to say the next episode

728
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,040
is that.
I want to say it's Water

729
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,600
World's, which is the tunnel of
love.

730
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:58,600
I agree.
Yeah, yeah.

731
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,240
So you figure next episode's
Colorado, the episode after that

732
00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:05,640
is Las Vegas, the episode after
that is Los Angeles, and then

733
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,000
the last episode is New York.
That's a lot.

734
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,680
I feel like, oh God man, that's
a lot.

735
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,520
Because there's like multiple,
there's there's like stuff that

736
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,360
happens in Santa Monica,
multiple things.

737
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,440
Yeah.
Oh, and then the last episode is

738
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,760
him.
Well, we won't get whatever,

739
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,440
Yeah.
I mean you listen, yeah, if you

740
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:27,560
listen to this, I'm very
excited.

741
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,720
I think the just going forward
since we haven't seen anything

742
00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:32,480
else, right.
So we're just speculating now

743
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,120
and we're just like we're we're
in it.

744
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,920
My thing I'm looking forward to
the most is Krusty's waterbed

745
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,520
Palace.
You will understand what that

746
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,120
means when we get to it if you
don't know what I'm saying.

747
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,240
I am very.
We have yet to see it even in

748
00:38:49,240 --> 00:38:50,880
the movies.
That's very true.

749
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,000
It would be a it would be a
tragedy if it was not included

750
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,760
in the series.
I think it is.

751
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,640
I feel like I saw something,
Rick or somebody that worked on

752
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,480
the show was like, it's crusty,
is there?

753
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,240
I'm like, thank God.
It's so bizarre.

754
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:05,480
It's so bizarre.
I want it.

755
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,320
I'm really looking forward to
the casino.

756
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,880
I'm really looking because I
think that that is going to look

757
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,000
amazing and I think we're going
to spend a little more time

758
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,520
there than we do in the books.
There is one thing that I'm

759
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,440
going to try to keep an ear out
and I want you guys to do this

760
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:20,800
too.
So if you find it and we don't

761
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:25,280
find it, whatever, in the
casino, if they mention two kids

762
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,560
with the last name D'Angelo, let
me know.

763
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,200
That's that's the thing I'm most
excited for in that casino,

764
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,480
right.
And also to see like, how they

765
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,120
do the games.
Yeah.

766
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,960
Will Annabeth just be playing
The Sims?

767
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,640
Basically.
Just Sin City.

768
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,040
Yes, exactly, Roller Coaster
Tycoon.

769
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,560
Oh man.
All right, well, let us know

770
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,640
what you're feeling about the
series so far.

771
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,600
We're halfway done.
We like to do these halfway

772
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,000
point check ins, right?
It's like, are we enjoying it?

773
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,440
Yes.
If not, we're still going to

774
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,400
cover it.
We.

775
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,400
Can't turn back now.
He can't turn back.

776
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,080
OK, until next week.
Yeah, see you on the road.

777
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,400
Also Happy New Year.
Well, yeah.

778
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,200
Happy 2024, friends.
Wow, here we go again.

779
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,760
I can always forget about
holidays when we do this.

780
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,160
I feel like it's an escape from
the real world.

781
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,160
So I'm like, I don't see
anything.

782
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:25,600
Time doesn't matter in here.
It just is you know thing like

783
00:40:25,720 --> 00:40:29,560
we we've talked about something
that isn't really out to the

784
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,960
world yet, which is going to be
posted, but it's it's.

785
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:33,240
Wild.
It's bananas.

786
00:40:33,240 --> 00:40:34,240
Yeah.
All right.

787
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:35,840
Well, goodbye.
Goodbye.