'Percy Jackson' Season Finale Episode 8: The Prophecy Comes True

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Hey, I'm Derek.
And I'm Noah.

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One nibble.
The final nibble of Percy

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Jackson, because they haven't
announced the Season 2 yet as of

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when we're recording this, as
we're recording this early.

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If they've announced it already,
yay.

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If not, come on.
I don't know why they're making

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us wait so long.
No idea.

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They're sending these kids
across the country non-stop and

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they're like, still no Season 2
yet.

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Oh my God.
I was so upset when I found out

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that they had the Percy was here
and you get to be at the Empire

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State Building and take photos
at the top of it.

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And we were just there the day
before.

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Literally, we were driving and
you literally went, hey, look,

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there's the Empire State
Building.

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I have a photo.
Like, I literally took a photo

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of the Empire's.
Yeah, whatever.

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I don't know, missed
opportunities.

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It's fine.
Such is life.

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So couple announcements, some
programming reminders, if you

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will, because it's very
exciting.

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We have a very exciting thing
coming up after this.

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We had so many great
opportunities with Percy

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Jackson.
Thank you, Disney.

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Thank you everybody involved
with that.

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Sad that it's over, but we were
actually invited to go see

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Argyle early at the Universal,
Universal.

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I was going to say Studios
Universal offices this week.

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On Friday we have a review of
Argyle coming out and an

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exclusive interview with Matthew
Vaughn, the director of Argyle

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who also directed Kingsman and
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So many fun things.
So now we're in the final

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episode, Episode 8 of Percy
Jackson.

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Spoiler warning Massive spoiler
warning for the first book and

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for the first whole season.
Let us officially take a bite of

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Percy Jackson and the Olympians.
Episode 8, The Prophecy Comes

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True.
Directed by Jet Wilkinson and

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written by Craig Silverstein.
Percy sticks his toes in the

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sand and his sword in the heel
of a God to retrieve Hades Helm.

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He makes a personal delivery to
his uncle on Olympus, where his

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father appears to put a stop to
the God of Gods, making his

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nephew a dead demigod camp.
Half Blood celebrates and Percy

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discovers that all the pieces of
the prophecy were true and a

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friend is actually a foe.
Insane.

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They were all over the place in
this episode.

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It's it's a lot I think, where
the so the whole point of the

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the show was like them going
from one end of the United

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States to the other, and in this
one they're this way and they

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immediately go to the other
side.

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So it's a lot of fun, but
there's a lot to unpack here

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because it's the culmination,
right?

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It's the beginning of the story
and also the end of the first

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chapter.
Hot off the heels of last week's

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episode, we saw Percy get back
on the beach with his friends,

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but Aries was there waiting for
him.

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Adam Copeland, Edge.
He came back for one last fight

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and it was a glorious fight.
This dude was chewing the heck

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out of these lines.
They were.

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They had these close-ups of his
face and his teeth were gnashing

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the entire time.
I could feel his warlord fury as

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he was talking to Percy.
I loved it.

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It it was fun to see him because
he's funny, right?

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And his portrayal of Aries is
kind of goofy and like not what

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you would expect of the God of
War, But we got to see the

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actual God of War side and that
rage and that fury and also

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trying to strategically come out
on top.

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Adam Cloveland did a great job.
Very excited.

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He really did.
And I mean, obviously this isn't

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going to be the last that we're
going to see of him, which is

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really, really.
Great.

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Unless there was only one
season.

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Stop it.
Stop putting that out into the

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universe.
I'm I'm not putting it out

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there.
I'm trying to make him feel bad.

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It's like the secret.
It's like the more you think

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something, the more power you
give it.

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So we keep saying it.
We're we should say this is the

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last time we've seen for season
fun, season fun.

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Season one sure was fun, but
when we see him in Season 2

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again, that'll be great.
Yeah, yeah, maybe.

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He'll have his, you know, famous
skin cycle.

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You had to bring it up.
It's the final episode before we

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left.
I'm not going to become a meme

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this time again.
Do it, Do it.

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So the the fight was really
cool, right?

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And in this beginning scene, I
really like it whenever they,

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you know, go back or call back
or show us the scene that

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happened prior to the journey
starting.

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So we see Luke and Percy
training, and that's how Percy

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got good with the sword, because
Luke is really good with the

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sword.
But they talk about the laws of

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combat and how the gods have to
usually abide by those rules.

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But you can use those rules to
your advantage as a demigod.

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And so Percy challenges the God
of War to single combat.

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Go on, Percy.
Yeah, you do it.

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You can see Annabeth and
Grover's jaws just drop and

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they're like, well, he's been
doing this for maybe a month if

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we're being generous.
OK, OK.

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I mean, this is just what we're
doing.

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It's fine.
How many camp beads do you have?

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None.
OK.

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None.
You're great.

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Yeah, just a mysterious empty
string around your neck.

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Cool, cool, cool.
Yeah, this is this is going to

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go really well.
The fight itself was really

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cool, right?
They they start the fight and I

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love it.
Whenever they use a camera that

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is moving with them, it was it
was relatively short.

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I wanted a little more because
this is the finale, right?

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And like I was hoping for just a
little more visually amazing.

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And I loved the part where he
picks up Percy and just slams

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him down.
I was like, oh, that's his

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wrestling game.
Totally.

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I mean, there's even a part
where he just knocks Percy clear

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across the beach and I couldn't
help but audibly go whoa, he

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just because he went flying and
it was like, Oh yeah, this is a

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God battling a 12 year old
child.

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Of course he would send him
flying like a mile down the

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beach.
The part where they're fighting

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and Aries is able to disarm
Percy and Riptide goes away.

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There's a point where, like,
Percy's face is like, wait, what

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do I do with that white sword?
Because that's terrifying,

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right?
When he has this, like, giant

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broadsword, he's towering over
you.

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And it's like, OK, I have my
sword, I'm comfortable with it

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now.
I don't have that.

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But as these journeys usually
go, the child coming into their

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power, the sea will always be
there for him.

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And I love how usually, like,
when these fights happen, right?

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I love it that the sea is always
there or a body of water,

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because that's what he needs.
He needs to use it.

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But to see him rising up when he
was knocked down and that wave

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building up only behind him, not
like a full wave, it was so

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cool, so smart.
Yeah, when he went rolling into

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sort of the, the shallow end of
the water there, I felt like,

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OK, well, he'll, he's going to
be OK.

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He's going to get his power.
He's going to heal.

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And seeing that wave come up,
you know, it just really showed

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him in this final leg of his
journey, becoming who we all

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knew he was going to be.
Yeah, he, he said to Aries,

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which was a very bad ass line
for him.

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He was like, I warned you, if
you're not careful, you find out

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who I am.
My God, like what a line?

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Where does this kid get the
hutspot?

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What a line to say right before
you.

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The wave comes in, It goes
around Percy, which is just like

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so cool.
It didn't need to, but it did

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and just washes him away.
He was like, literally and

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figuratively just like jumbled.
He was like thrown out and then

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he was like, OK, great, sword
gone.

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And then Percy comes in, running
slices, his ankle just so good.

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I loved.
It was a quick fight, but it was

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really excellently done.
Yeah, it was definitely

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effective.
And I love seeing the golden

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blood coming out of his heel.
It's what I expected.

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It's what they gave us.
And then, of course, you know,

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at the end of everything, him
going into his real form.

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His true form his.
True form, which I really wanted

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to see, even though it would
make my brain explode.

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Also, they had to tell Percy.
Again, don't look at it.

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It's like same thing with
Medusa.

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They're like turn, Percy, stop
looking.

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He's like, it's like it's like
looking at an eclipse.

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They're like, no stop.
Yeah, there aren't even special

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glasses for this.
Why do you think that Aries, So

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he calls Percy, calls Aries out
for being manipulated by Kronos

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and using, you know, it's not
his plan, it's Kronos his plan,

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and he's following through with
that.

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Why do you think Aries said we
don't Gods don't dream?

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Is it because he was embarrassed
or like, why do you think he

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said that?
Because later on, Poseidon tells

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LIKE, obviously they do dream.
I think it's, I think it's an

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embarrassment thing.
And I also think maybe part of

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Aries did think that he was in
control and so having Percy,

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this child, be able to figure
everything out and say to his

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face made him feel like a fool.
Yeah, you should.

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Stupid.
My granddad is the worst.

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We don't dream.
He doesn't talk to me.

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Yeah, I I thought I I loved the
acting in that part too, because

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you can see his face falter,
because he thought he had the

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upper hand.
And he was just like, I don't

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Gods Don't Dream And it, you
know, it was a sad line.

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But it was also like, I do feel
like there's a lot of

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embarrassment there, yeah.
You know, one of the interesting

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things in watching Percy Jackson
is seeing how demigods can

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affect gods.
You think of gods as the

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almighty, you know, and the
omnipotent.

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And and yet they can be
deceived.

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They can be told off, They can
be outsmarted, and so and

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defeated and defeated.
And so it seems almost like a

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imbalance of power.
But in reality, the gods are

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not.
All no.

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And I think it goes back to the
conversation that Luke and Percy

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have.
And we finally know that

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Annabeth does have the fear of
spiders, because he tells them

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that.
But it was such a smart way to

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deliver this line because he
said, you know, the spider is

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tiny, but Annabeth will run
away.

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And why is that?
You're you're but you're so

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powerful.
That big powerful thing fears

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that thing.
You can't be powerful and also

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be like feared of the thing, you
know.

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It's just yeah, it doesn't work.
And the other aspect of that

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same.
Or does work but.

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Metaphor that Luke was giving
him was that you also need to

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know what to go into the fight
with, because what will Annabeth

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do to the spider?
She might smash it.

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So it's like you have to be the
small thing and you have to be

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intimidating, but you can't
cross the line.

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Well, you can't.
Scare the thing, right?

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Right.
You can't be small and scary,

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right?
It's like what he told him.

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Yeah, it it's.
I think it's a really fun way to

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look at this, right?
Because it's like, don't you

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know, be on the bad side of the
demigods because look, what?

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Even just Percy, A baby demigod,
was able to do.

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Granted, he was part of the big
three, but as a series goes on

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you really get you get the
picture of the demigods can be

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the best part of what these gods
are and that scares them.

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Yeah, well, and and you figure
the demigods have something that

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the gods don't, and that is
humanity.

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And so there is power in that.
Exactly.

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The beads a collection of beads
and crystals camping.

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I really liked how they designed
Haiti's helm, because as soon as

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Aries goes disappears, we get
the helm.

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And I remember in the books that
the helm, what it looks like

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before it's in its form, is a
ski mask.

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And I liked that the helm had
like those cross lines on the

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eyes, because it's like it could
resemble a ski mask in a way,

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you know, I like that.
I like the little tiny detail.

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I also liked the the actors
handling the helm, where it

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seemed heavy.
It seemed heavy, right?

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And so I thought that was a
really great detail of showing

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how, you know, if you think
about it, Hades wears this on

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his head, probably with ease,
whereas you know other monsters

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and and mortals it it takes some
strength to lift it up.

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You know, I just.
I want to.

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I would love a visual of J
Duplass wearing it, but still in

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his smoker's jacket and just
this, like, giant thing.

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You know this Hades that we've
been given in the last episode?

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I feel like that is a very real
thing that could happen.

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Oh yeah, Just sitting in his
little living room looking at

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his golden Sally wearing his
helmet like, OK, we're back in

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business, people.
The set is complete.

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Exactly, exactly, we match.
So they deliver the helm to

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Electo herself.
Mega mullally Fantastic as this

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character.
I love how she just shows up,

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plays this like cool,
mysterious, powerful fury and

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then disappears.
She's done it a few times in

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this and she's just a delight
every single time I see.

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OK, so one thing I had a
question about or or I'm trying

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to piece it together.
So in the book might be the last

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time I say that this season,
probably not.

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In the book, when they smash
their pearls down, it brings

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them back into California and
then they have to take a plane

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across the way to New York.
What I'm putting together is, is

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that when they smash the Pearl,
even though they're on the other

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side of the country, it actually
brings them on a beach in

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Montauk.
Yeah, back to the parents,

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right?
Or his mother's Montauk house,

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Yeah.
Which I think is a really good

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way to not have to create that
point of we got to go on a

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plane.
How are we going to get on a

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planes?
This is Lord of Disguise.

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Just like no.
Just make them appear.

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Yeah, it's also, but I even
think the underlining meaning of

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that, right.
And it's like, that's where it

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was going to bring them, like
back to his safe space, back to

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something that means so
important to his family.

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It's kind of nice.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
I liked seeing that Montauk

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house.
I don't know where that is, but

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I'd love to have that where.
Montauk is this gorgeous stained

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glass home.
Just hidden, yeah.

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We also hear on the radio when
they come in and it's talking

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about the solar flares and
everything.

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It's the real world consequences
of the gods fighting because

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again, we know that Zeus and
Poseidon are getting ready for

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war and how he battled the sky
was he created earthquakes and

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that's why Electo had said that.
It's really interesting to hear

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again from the mortal side
because we didn't get too much

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mortal stuff these last couple
episodes, so it's interesting to

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kind of just get a little little
check up on all of them.

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The after she leaves Electo, the
jury has to split up and Percy

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is going to go to Mount Olympus
to deliver the bolt to talk to

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Zeus and say your dad is doing
stuff.

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It's not great, but this goodbye
that the trio does?

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Very sweet.
You know this goodbye because

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who knows if Percy's even going
to make it back?

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And just to see this really
mature growth from Annabeth that

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she gives him?
Probably like her most prized

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possession, aside from her hat
and her dagger, is her beads

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with.
The ring.

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Yeah, her father's ring on it
because he'll need all the luck

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he can get.
It's just really sweet.

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It's just like one of those
moments where it's like they are

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1000% friends.
Yes, absolutely.

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They are definitely solidified
as friends now.

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There's no questioning it and
there's no questioning each

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other.
And I think, I think for

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Annabeth, always as the daughter
of Athena, it's about wisdom.

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It's about battling.
It's about kind of looking at

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something and seeing the best
way to solve the problem.

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And she's seen Percy throughout
his entire journey figure out

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really wonderful ways to solve
problems.

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So just in that respect, he's
gotten her respect.

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And so I think that she can see
him not only as a friend, but

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really as a companion and
someone she would travel with on

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another quest.
Yeah, and I love Grover's only

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contribution to this episode.
Essentially is not anything

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against them.
It's Grover, right?

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We love him, is his amazing one
liner.

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And he says, how sure are we
that we can't just explain this

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in an e-mail to them like?
Zeus at Mount olympus.com.

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I wonder if it is zeus@gods.com
or gods?

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Yeah.
Or is it Zeus at Olympus dot

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gods?
That's.

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That's it.
You know, That's because it's

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not an org.
It's the God godly dormane their

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domain.
They're definitely not non

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profit for sure.
No, no.

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And is it?
It's not Gov either.

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So I think you nailed it.
OK, we get to Olympus.

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This is one of the things that I
was really excited to see

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because you know you, you have
all these images in your head

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and from past media and what you
just expect or reading the books

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or anything.
I was so excited to see what

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this Olympus look like.
And I was again brought to the

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realization that like, I don't
know, I think like the Hercules

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Disney really like, muddled my
mind with with Olympus because

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it was beautiful, it was
amazing.

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It was empty.
There was nobody there.

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And it's gigantic.
Like even if there was people

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there, you would think that you
would hear something or like see

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people in the background, but
like there was nothing.

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Yeah, I I was blown away because
I'm thinking, oh, he's in a

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building, It's going to open up
and it's going to be a corridor,

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but the elevator doors open and
it's an entire land.

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It's a place.
So that idea kind of blew my

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mind a little bit.
But yeah, I agree.

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Even when he finally gets to
Zeus, you know Zeus is

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completely by himself.
I guess that's what happens when

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you create a war.
Yeah, and and then I guess your

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your fellow gods are choosing
sides and getting their own

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followers together and it's
mayhem.

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But just seeing Zeus, you know
who is the God of gods just

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forlornly sitting in this
throne.

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It was really just such an
interesting scene, I think, for

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Percy to walk on also like.
You would think that.

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I mean, I guess they're gods,
right?

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And like, we see Zeus teleport,
But I just love the thing of

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like, Percy having to literally
walk 10 miles out.

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Oh, yeah, You know, Zeus.
Zeus knew he was there.

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He's like, I'm not moving.
Zeus is literally sitting there

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like, OK child, like, I'm going
to go eat I'll.

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I'll be back.
Percy's just like I haven't.

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You're in the basketball.
Realistically, it was like 4

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days had passed.
Exactly.

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Like camp?
Everyone's at camp is just like

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is Percy OK?
I.

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Think he's dead?
Oh my God, They ate him on the

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Olympus.
They ate him.

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They ate him.
But I I loved the look of

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Olympus, and I liked it whenever
they got to the top, right?

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And it's like you see the
Thrones, all the Thrones of the

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other gods that are supposed to
be there.

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It's very dark and gloomy and
because obviously Zeus is like

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brewing in something and he's
preparing for war.

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But the image of Lance rhetoric
sitting on that throne last

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performance, by the amazing, I
mean he just look up his history

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of everything he's been in.
You have seen him before this or

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you have heard his voice.
Video games, anime stuff,

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movies, everything.
Very missed, but holy shit,

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knocked it out of the park.
Yeah, as Zeus.

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I was terrified.
I felt humbled because I was

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just like, he seems like a good
guy.

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No?
Yes, and just scary.

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Man looks good in the suit.
The power, his tie.

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Did you notice that?
It was like a Paisley pattern,

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but it wasn't a traditional
Paisley pattern.

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It was just like, kind of
however it wanted to be.

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Oh, just so good.
Yeah man, amazing.

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Yeah, it was awesome.
You know this looking at the

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background, especially when you
were looking behind Percy when

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he is at the top of the
mountain, it actually reminded

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me a lot of the underworld.
It felt very much the same of

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this vast land where there was
just like clouds and and mist,

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and it seems like maybe there
isn't such a difference between

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being up in the sky and being
below.

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I mean, I think that's what
Hades wants people to think, but

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they want him to think
otherwise, right?

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It's like Hades is always seen
as the person that got the short

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end of the stick, even though
like he's one of the only ones

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of the God that literally has a
whole domain that he governs.

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It's it's such an interesting
like once you get really look

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into it and then Zeus is there
but also nobody is there.

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Well, right.
And and that's another thing is

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that like we again see that how
these gods are they, they don't

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see Percy as a 12 year old, they
see him as a demigod.

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And also as a nuisance.
Right.

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And so, you know, watching this,
you know, I mean ancient being

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scream at a child.
The the conversation that they

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have I think is really
interesting.

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It it drives the theme of the
series, or at least the first

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one.
Really.

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Oh, right.
Because Percy him delivering the

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bolt, right?
And when he delivered it to him,

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just hearing that crack of
Thunder or hearing the rumbles

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of Thunder, depending on his
emotion, amazing.

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I wish I could do that.
Like people could know, like

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what's happening.
It's amazing.

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But he tries to talk to him and
he tells him he's like, you

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failed, and he just flat out
tells him you failed, is one of

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the first things that Zeus tells
him.

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And what does Percy do?
I know.

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But I had to come here and talk
to you and tell you this.

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It's such a an amazing thing for
a character like this, right?

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This is the the growth in like
what we want these characters to

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do.
And for him to try to tell him,

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like, Kronos is doing this, he's
potting, he's coming back and

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he's like, yeah, I know he did
look scared.

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I feel like it's almost like a
front because maybe, just maybe,

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you're wasting your time with
Poseidon.

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We should really be looking at
what is actually happening.

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Like, why would Percy be lying
to you?

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You know, like he's a baby.
Exactly.

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And I think there is sort of a
piece of Percy here that doesn't

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necessarily know what's going to
happen in this moment.

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Is Zeus going to fry him?
Is Zeus going to let him go?

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And we almost get that right.
Yeah, I love the line that he

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says when he's like We do this,
guns do this, we snap, we plot,

450
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:08,360
we strive.
So good, so, so good, he tells

451
00:24:08,360 --> 00:24:11,280
him.
Boy, when he yells Boy at him, I

452
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,280
was just like, yeah.
You're right.

453
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,960
Yeah, I'm sorry.
I'm a boy.

454
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,680
We're all boys.
I'm just going to go and make my

455
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,080
10 day journey back down.
I'm good.

456
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:21,920
I'm going.
To leave this here, but I'm

457
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,320
going to.
Go.

458
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,160
You can have this.
You can have this back.

459
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,160
But see, Daddy does come to the
rest.

460
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:29,800
It's such an important moment,
right?

461
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,880
It's like, this is Percy's never
met his father that he knows of,

462
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,440
right?
He's been in the vicinity of

463
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,160
him, but he's never met him.
And it's like, this is the thing

464
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,000
that like he was on this quest
to prove himself to save his

465
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,280
mother.
And you you have to know that

466
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,680
like he wanted to make his dad
proud or meet his dad in some

467
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,880
capacity for him to save him and
then immediately surrender.

468
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,080
Well, I was going to ask what do
you think the significance?

469
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,360
So because in the book, I guess
that wasn't the last time I was

470
00:24:57,360 --> 00:25:01,200
going to say it in, in the book,
this ward hasn't started right

471
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,520
between Zeus and Poseidon.
It's it's brewing.

472
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,040
Right.
But here it has happened.

473
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,600
The solstice has passed.
It has happened.

474
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,960
So what do you think the
significance of having Poseidon

475
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,440
look at his brother and say I
surrender?

476
00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:16,920
I it's huge, right?
Because, I mean these two

477
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,720
particularly Hades included or
excluded, however you want to

478
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,960
think about it, are always vying
for power, right?

479
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,400
It's like Poseidon could be in
Zeus's place, but Zeus is the

480
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,440
one that defeated Kronos and put
him in his place, so he's there.

481
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,800
I think it's good for Percy to
see that and it's good for

482
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,000
Poseidon and it's good for us to
understand that he has a

483
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,800
complicated relationship with
like fathering demigods and like

484
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,120
what that exactly means.
It's good, right?

485
00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:49,600
Because then it also like kind
of stops the war, right?

486
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,280
So we are at the place in the
book.

487
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:52,560
We.
Needed that to happen, right?

488
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,920
We need to stop the war.
And I also think it shows Percy

489
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:01,440
that, wow, he this is my father.
Yes, he's been absent, but he

490
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,360
does actually care about me
because he's willing to kowtow

491
00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:08,760
to his brother and like you
said, who have always been at a

492
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,400
head to head battle.
Yeah, And he told Sally in that

493
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,560
flashback that we saw, he was
like, when the time comes, I

494
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,800
will be by his side.
You did it.

495
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,160
Yeah, I mean the the master bolt
was charged up.

496
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,360
It was glowing blue.
That master bolt, like I know

497
00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:25,800
we've seen it on the promotional
stuff, but to see it in like

498
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,120
action until like really get a
close up look especially like

499
00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:33,600
where the hilt is and you can
see those like small arcing of

500
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:38,760
electricity, it looks so cool.
It is such a good job with the

501
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,200
design of this.
If, like in the last episode

502
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,840
we've been talking, we were
talking about if they do make a

503
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,080
Percy Jackson land or something
like that, there has to be like

504
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,000
a giant master bolt that you can
hold and when you hold it like

505
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,200
lights up, that'd be cool,
right?

506
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,840
Get on at Disney.
We're Imagineers now.

507
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,720
We imagine everything at Disney.
Blue food, lightning bolts.

508
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,760
We got it.
Make your own necklace Station.

509
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,040
Oh, come on.
I would love that.

510
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:06,920
Yeah, me too.
Yeah.

511
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,400
Oh, it's probably going to be
the same, like same ones.

512
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:11,800
But, you know, I'm.
I'm fine with that.

513
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,520
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm on
it.

514
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:14,840
I'm on it.
Beaded necklace.

515
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,200
That's cool.
I'm sure you could buy them,

516
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,600
Etsy.
Get on it.

517
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,200
So I'm making those clay beads
right now.

518
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,560
For like 10 years, probably,
yeah.

519
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,640
That's true.
OK, so Percy and his dad would

520
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,640
finally get to meet and have a
conversation.

521
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,600
I love that he the first thing
he says to him is like, you

522
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,760
know, the the seed does not like
to be restrained.

523
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,120
He's like, you're stubborn,
aren't you?

524
00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:41,840
And he's like, I'm like you, you
know, it's such a brief and

525
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,760
short meeting and when he
finally, like, makes Percy go

526
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,720
away, right, you can see in his
face that when he's going to

527
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,520
make him leave, Percy is like
devastated.

528
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,160
So he's like.
How is this it?

529
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,440
Did all of this.
Also, I'm asking you if you care

530
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,960
about my mother and you're
avoiding the question and you're

531
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,800
sending me away.
What is it?

532
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:08,560
Why can't Poseidon admit that he
loves them and that he cares for

533
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,680
them?
I think it's too much, right?

534
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:15,800
It's like, yeah, you made the
decision to be with somebody and

535
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,360
you had a child and there was a
pact that was made to where you

536
00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:21,320
couldn't have any children.
You did anyway.

537
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,480
You obviously loved this.
Woman.

538
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,920
Maybe it's a weakness.
Maybe it's just he has other

539
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:32,600
priorities.
I I'm not sure how this serious

540
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,840
version feels about it, right?
I wonder if it's even something

541
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,200
to say of if he shows that he
loves them and that he cares for

542
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,040
them, he's putting a target on
their backs.

543
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,240
That's also a huge thing that's
probably happening because he.

544
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:45,960
He asks.
He's like, do you ever, Do you

545
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,440
dream?
Yes, God's dream.

546
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,520
Do you ever dream of Mom?
OK, Bye.

547
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:52,840
Bye.
She sits in the rain for you,

548
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,160
yeah.
Go pee.

549
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,160
Pee.
You need to go away.

550
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,400
You just need.
To you know, there was that

551
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,560
moment when he calls him
Perseus, right?

552
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:08,440
It it felt very Dad, dad.
Like, you know, Perseus Jackson.

553
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,680
Also fair, though, like you
don't know him.

554
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,840
You can't call it by Percy.
You call me by my government

555
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,720
name, right?
You have now gotten to know me,

556
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,680
right?
Totally, totally.

557
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:24,200
It's it's a very sweet it
satisfied what I wanted them to

558
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,080
meet, right?
Because it it still has some

559
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,040
mystery.
It still has that like feeling

560
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,280
of longing.
Almost like I want them to like

561
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,880
talk more and like, stop being
idiots, just like talk.

562
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,680
But you know there's going to be
more seasons, so it's there

563
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,720
makes them go away.
I think that we got that moment.

564
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:54,320
It, I think, gave Percy a little
more closure and knowing who his

565
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,000
father is and knowing that his
father does care.

566
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,920
At least enough to, like, end a
war, yeah, and have Zeus throw a

567
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,160
party and gloat it in his face.
Yeah, Yeah.

568
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,560
So I I I don't think that any of
that is lost on Percy.

569
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:13,040
No, I think he wanted more time.
But you know, I guess out of 12

570
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,200
years of being on the earth, if
these 2 1/2 minutes is all he

571
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,360
gets, then maybe that's enough
for.

572
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,920
Now No, I'm fine.
Excuse, OK.

573
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,600
No.
No, I'm not saying like, I mean,

574
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,560
he's just dead, be dead.
We've been saying that all

575
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:26,360
season.
Yeah, yeah.

576
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,720
I mean, well, I wouldn't say I
wouldn't go that far, right?

577
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,920
I think ever since the
flashback, I've given him a

578
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,560
little more leniency because you
could tell that he wants to be

579
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,120
involved.
He just can't.

580
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,280
Now, who's on whose side, I
mean?

581
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,160
You know, on everybody's side, I
can make an argument for

582
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:43,480
everybody.
That is very true.

583
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,880
I live with you.
I understand that very well.

584
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,440
I mean, my favorite character is
like Hades, so, like playing

585
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,400
devil's advocate here.
Yeah.

586
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,000
So before we get into like the
camp and the betrayal and

587
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:03,720
everything, how did you feel
about this finale from the

588
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,200
series?
You know what it like as a

589
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,680
finale?
How did you feel about it?

590
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,600
I think it did the job of what a
finale is supposed to do.

591
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,120
I think that we got some really
good fights.

592
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,640
I think that it brought some
closure to our parental

593
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,120
relationship and I think it also
left us with a big question mark

594
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,560
for next season and there was a
twist.

595
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,720
Right.
You you can never deny A twist.

596
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,400
No you can.
I think we love A twist.

597
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,680
Oh yeah, no, We love A twist.
World love A twist?

598
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,760
Yeah, we love A twist.
I I really liked it.

599
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:39,720
I I felt like it was brisk and
there was a lot to unpack for

600
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,920
the season, to get it ready for
the next stuff.

601
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:47,160
I do feel like knowing the next
books, I feel like it's going to

602
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,720
be able to breathe and play a
little more, right?

603
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,920
Because the the first season's
really setting up the entire

604
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,200
world and the mythos of
everything.

605
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,840
And so now that we're there, we
have that base.

606
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,840
I feel like they can play a
little more.

607
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:05,560
I really hope that we get longer
episodes next season because

608
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,400
they're very short.
Granted, we got eight.

609
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,600
They just did feel a little
short because it was like, OK,

610
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,960
the Aries fight was like 5
minutes and then this thing and

611
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,040
it was like a lot happens, but I
wanted to breathe a little more

612
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,680
in the well.
We did talk about that.

613
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,920
We were like, how are they going
to fit all of this into the

614
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,040
final episode?
They did.

615
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,800
They fitted in there.
But it did have to be quick,

616
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,440
sort of, you know, chapters,
right?

617
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:33,320
Very much like in a book.
But I think that this first

618
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:38,360
season does what exactly what
the first book did in that it

619
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,440
made you get to know these
characters, you fall in love

620
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:46,040
with them, you want to see more.
And we had to build up those

621
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,960
first foundational things of
getting to know them, seeing

622
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,760
what they're capable of and now
wanting more for them, right.

623
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,560
So I think it does achieve that
and and I think a lot has to

624
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,360
happen in order for that to
happen though.

625
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,240
And so maybe that's why a lot of
the things seemed a little quick

626
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,400
is because we had to get it all
in there in order for us to

627
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,240
believe it and and want better
for them.

628
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,200
Yeah, I mean, I agree.
I I agree.

629
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,280
I I just felt like it was brisk,
right?

630
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,680
It's like 30 minute episodes and
like it's very short.

631
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,760
We're like 7 minute credits.
Not that extreme, but you know

632
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,760
what I mean.
But I do have to say in thinking

633
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,240
of the Aries fight, it's like, I
don't know if that fight went on

634
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,400
any longer.
I don't think Percy would have

635
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,040
won, you know?
Do you know what I.

636
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,000
Mean he could have just dragged
Aries into the ocean and then

637
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,080
like, you know, I agree.
And like, I feel like that's

638
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,640
probably why it is the way it
is, especially in like the first

639
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,080
book and in this first season
that, like, we have to remember

640
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,920
they're kids.
And I know one of the I saw some

641
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,320
critiques, which I don't agree
with is like, it's easy.

642
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,280
Like this is like, it's the kids
are solving all the stuff.

643
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,040
It's easy.
It's like, well, they're kids,

644
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,520
right?
It's like not until they get

645
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,800
older do the problems get more
intricate.

646
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,080
Because I think you had said
this when we were talking about

647
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,320
it, but it's like it wouldn't be
believable if it was like

648
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,800
problems or things that like
adults, you know what I mean?

649
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,679
It's like it has to be
believable to your.

650
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,199
Extent.
Yeah, exactly.

651
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:16,440
I I think that is what I said.
And it's just like, I don't know

652
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,159
if they had to solve like giant
equations or crazy puzzles.

653
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:21,239
It was like.
In a Beth can.

654
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:27,080
Sure, but you know, when they
were down in the underworld, she

655
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,560
was back up already, so she
wouldn't have been there to help

656
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,520
him.
I just think that things Do you

657
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,440
see how he played both sides?
He said.

658
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,520
He agreed with me and then I was
bringing up an example.

659
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,960
I told you I can make an
argument for all sides,

660
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,000
including all sides of myself.
Yes, exactly what.

661
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,120
Are you?
I was agreeing with you.

662
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,880
But yeah, that that's The thing
is that I think the the, the

663
00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:51,400
size of the problems or the
right size for 12 year.

664
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,239
Olds.
As they get taller, the problems

665
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:54,360
get taller.
Yes, yeah.

666
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:55,400
Yeah.
I agree.

667
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,280
OK to camp like nice little
hero's welcome.

668
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,440
It was interesting at first when
you didn't hear anything, you

669
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,960
didn't hear the cheering, but
you saw it and it was kind of,

670
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:09,040
it's felt somber at 1st and then
it seemed like he was like

671
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:10,800
enjoying it.
And I don't know if that was

672
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:15,000
like he didn't expect it, but it
was really sweet to see him get

673
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,720
this like hero's welcome and
everything.

674
00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:20,080
And then Annabeth coming and
hugging him was very sweet and

675
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:24,440
something that I think all of us
that love this series wanted and

676
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,280
needed.
We needed to see that hug the

677
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,440
tiny little flames of Persabeth
are.

678
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,880
Still there.
But then Clarice.

679
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,720
Yes.
So this hug was really felt more

680
00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:38,480
like an espionage move of like
everyone thinks I'm hugging to

681
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,920
congratulate you, but don't look
over there, because she's still

682
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,320
there.
We're all very confused,

683
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,040
whispering in his ear about
Clarice.

684
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,640
So at this point, do you think
that Clarice knows anything?

685
00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:55,320
No, but Aries said that you've
made it enemy for life.

686
00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:00,520
And Aries happen, being the
descendants of Aries, clearly

687
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,960
are on his side, right?
They want to appease the dad and

688
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,880
everything because you could see
all the other kids cracking

689
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,000
their little tiny knuckles next
to Clarice.

690
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,200
They are angry.
I I can't wait to get more of

691
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:12,240
Clarice.
Shame.

692
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,760
She has a bigger part in the
next book, and I'm very excited

693
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:17,960
to see that character get more
time to shine.

694
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,840
There's a lot of characters that
I just kind of want more of, but

695
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,080
I love that we got to sit with
these three to love them more

696
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,760
and to get to know them.
But Clarice, man, I want more of

697
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:28,720
her.
I agree.

698
00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:30,120
She's so fierce.
She's so.

699
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,800
Cool.
I, Luke.

700
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,840
OK, let's get into the betrayal
of it all.

701
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,480
Luke.
Planning with Annabeth to

702
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,200
separate Percy away from
everybody.

703
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:51,280
Talk to Kyron.
Just this dude is sneaky.

704
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,160
So sneaky and so smooth.
Because Annabeth, and I think

705
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,520
it's just because of her
relationship with Luke.

706
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:02,560
She didn't see anything but very
smart on this part.

707
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:04,760
Yeah.
And well, you know, when we're

708
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,800
thinking about those flashbacks
at the beginning of the episode

709
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:12,480
and we're watching it and going,
oh wow, he was training him for

710
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:17,760
this quest, but in reality, he
was training him to be on his

711
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:18,840
side.
Yeah.

712
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,520
And giving him the tools so that
he would hopefully join him.

713
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,840
That's the thing that I really
like and I think is smart about

714
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,240
this because it's not just, you
know, somebody that you call

715
00:37:29,240 --> 00:37:30,720
French.
I'll betray you in the end and

716
00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:33,880
stuff like that.
It it's more than that.

717
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,280
Like, yes, he did betray him
because he's working with

718
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:41,120
Kronos, but it's like he sees
him as somebody that can help

719
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,320
him in what he's trying to do.
So he, like, wants him to be an

720
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:49,000
ally for the wrong reasons.
But like, it's almost like a I'd

721
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,080
be flattered almost.
You know what I mean?

722
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,440
It's like, oh, it sucks that my
friend try to like, kill me kind

723
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,080
of or betray me.
But like, as we hear from Kyron,

724
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,280
he's like he sees you as
somebody that could be his ally,

725
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,240
not necessarily wanting to kill
you yet.

726
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,560
Thank you for the offer.
I'm not going to take you off on

727
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,320
it.
I'm not going to take Kronos

728
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,040
aside, thank you.
But I loved the setting of this

729
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,040
betrayal.
So cool, visually amazing.

730
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,400
In the woods.
There could be monsters around,

731
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,320
but just all these fireworks and
everything.

732
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,440
So you got that light.
It's just, it looked amazing.

733
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,040
And then Percy breaking down the
prophecy line by line.

734
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,800
And then he's like, everything's
come true except for one thing

735
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:39,120
And he's like, oh wait.
Yeah, he got there.

736
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:40,640
Poor person.
Yeah, he got there.

737
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,240
You know, one thing that I do
wish that they explained was the

738
00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:46,440
double edge of backbiter.
They.

739
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,200
Didn't explain it.
They do in the books.

740
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,120
Right, they do.
But also like the ability to

741
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:52,880
create a portal.
Freaking amazing.

742
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,400
Also very cool.
So just to explain it from what

743
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,320
I'm assuming is still going to
be the thing.

744
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,680
I don't know if they're just
making it to where it can do

745
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,800
portals and not the other thing,
and maybe that's why they didn't

746
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,520
explain it.
But in the books, the reason why

747
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,720
it's two different colors is
because one color kills

748
00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:15,480
monsters, so the celestial
bronze that these demigods have

749
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,880
can't hurt mortals.
Which is riptide, like riptide

750
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,640
is a celestial.
If you try to hit a mortal,

751
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,440
it'll go right through them.
It can only damage monsters and

752
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:27,160
other godly beings.
The other color, the other blade

753
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:32,280
or metal that's on Luke's sword
can kill and hurt mortals.

754
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,800
So that just kind of adds a
little more to the Oh no and.

755
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:39,760
It and it because it always felt
like what is going on with the

756
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,720
gods and the demigods is outside
the realm of the mortals, so the

757
00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:48,280
fact that he has something that
can kill anyone that can get in

758
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,120
his way makes him feel more
dangerous.

759
00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:52,880
I'm really, I'm really
interesting to see because I

760
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,720
know there's there's a couple
things that where mortals get

761
00:39:55,720 --> 00:39:58,600
involved later on in the series.
Not going to spoil anything.

762
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,280
And it evolves some of the stuff
that's happening, and it's kind

763
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:08,520
of like awful stuff.
So I'm curious if they're going

764
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,240
to pull back on that for
whatever reason.

765
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:17,440
But it's kind of not great that
he's like, oh, let me make a

766
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,880
sword that could kill mortals.
Yeah, that reading that in the

767
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,120
book scared me.
Yeah yeah it it painted Luke in

768
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:28,840
a a sadder and also scarier
light at the same time the

769
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:33,800
adding the layer of Annabeth
saving him coming out of there.

770
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:38,520
So you kind of may maybe this is
what I'm thinking like at first

771
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,280
I was like why did she follow
them?

772
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,280
Like she seemed like she was
like, so in on the swing.

773
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:48,400
Maybe she saw Kyron right at
camp and was like, are you going

774
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,040
to, are you like, on your way to
talk to Luke And he's like, what

775
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:52,960
are you talking about?
And she's like, Oh no.

776
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,840
You know, and this, this mirrors
the capture the flag scene where

777
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,320
she's standing there watching.
And you know, I had a thought

778
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,880
and this might be out of, you
know, a little reaching, but

779
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,040
when you and I were watching the
fight between Luke and Percy, we

780
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,800
were said someone's in the
background, someone's in the

781
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,640
background.
But then we thought, oh, it's

782
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,560
just a statue.
I was actually thinking maybe

783
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,720
it's a statue of Athena and the
thought that Athena is always

784
00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:18,520
watching.
And that's Annabeth.

785
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,200
Oh, that is true.
Because like, I think at first I

786
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,400
was like, oh, like they're in
the woods and they kind of like

787
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,360
filled the woods with monsters
and stuff so they can practice.

788
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,000
But like when we saw it was
like, what is it like?

789
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,000
It is a statue.
Because it felt like they were,

790
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,400
they were surrounded by, you
know, like columns.

791
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:39,480
And, you know, it felt very,
very like, you know, ancient

792
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,960
Greek ruins.
And so I was like, oh, that

793
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,720
statue was so prominent between
them.

794
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,200
And then I was thinking, you
know, maybe there's some poetry

795
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,640
in there, that it's a statue of
Athena, and Annabeth is there to

796
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,120
protect it.
That would be cool.

797
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:52,240
Why?
I like that.

798
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,640
All right, if it's not.
A bite of.

799
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,360
Approved.
I hope it is, but I do like the

800
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,800
the callback to the capture the
flag where like when he defeated

801
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,640
Clarice and she was there,
invisible all the time.

802
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,280
He's like, you just stood there
and did nothing.

803
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,600
This time she did do something
and it saved his life.

804
00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:11,800
Just really cool.
But I also like that layer

805
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:16,280
because it it doesn't have like
their relationship isn't going

806
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,480
to be strained or she's not
going to second guess him

807
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,640
because he's the only one that,
you know, Luke betrayed him and

808
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,560
like he was the only one that
was there, so now she can back

809
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,960
him up.
And also their relationship is

810
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,640
fine because she doesn't have to
second guess that right, Which I

811
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:31,920
like.
I like that change.

812
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:36,840
Yeah.
And so Luke cuts a portal, and

813
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,880
he goes he.
Looks so cool.

814
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,840
I wonder if like he had he has
to do that motion every time or

815
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:46,480
if like is he going to Hades he
made an H or it's like that's

816
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,920
how he opens the portal.
I was curious by the the

817
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,960
markings that he did.
That's a good question.

818
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,240
Because it was an H unless it's
like.

819
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,720
It's a portal.
Give me the hell out of here.

820
00:42:56,720 --> 00:43:00,280
There you go.
Or H for Hades because he's like

821
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,520
he's throwing a potty.
Come on.

822
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,240
Yeah.
So Luke, unfortunately turns

823
00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:09,560
out, although he was quite
wonderful throughout, really had

824
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,680
his own agenda.
I want to know, so if anybody's

825
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,600
listening to this and had never
read the book and this is the

826
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,160
first experience you're having
with Percy Jackson, did you have

827
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,680
a feeling that Luke was bad or
was going to betray him?

828
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,520
Like, I'm curious because we
knew already, so like, we could

829
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,680
see that it was happening.
I did feel like they did a good

830
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,840
job of hiding it, yes, But I'm
curious if you didn't know, did

831
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,760
you have an inkling or did they
hide it well?

832
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,760
So let us know.
I just had an idea.

833
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:41,240
Yeah, H is for Hermes because he
is the child of Hermes who can

834
00:43:41,240 --> 00:43:43,200
travel.
I'm.

835
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,560
Can you travel by portal?
Hermes travels like that.

836
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:48,200
He's fast.
Yeah.

837
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,720
Yeah.
Well, maybe that makes sense.

838
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:56,280
I guess Hades isn't the only God
with H in his name.

839
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:02,680
It's a man when, oh God, there's
another one with H I think

840
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,960
there's another one too.
Who's the Goddess of the Hearse?

841
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:13,000
She's pretty big.
In the books, yeah, guys.

842
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,920
Like, sometimes some details
just escape me.

843
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:22,120
Yeah, it's a lot of God with
ages when he mentioned, when

844
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,200
Percy mentioned to Luke and what
set him off in fighting was when

845
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,760
he was like, I talked to your
dad and he was like, oh, no, no,

846
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,320
no, no.
You don't mention my dad.

847
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,600
I like that detail.
But it's also very sad.

848
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:36,240
And he's like, they Hermes and
both Luke feel that way about

849
00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:38,200
each other, that they just don't
like to talk about it.

850
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,680
And it's like, just talk about
it.

851
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,640
Like talk to each other.
Talk to your father, which

852
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,600
obviously son.
Very hard for all of them to do.

853
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,840
A lot of parental issues in this
series.

854
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:56,160
I'm stalling so that way the end
We've been doing Percy Jackson

855
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:00,800
since November.
Yeah, we figure, I think we did

856
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,800
the book in four episodes then.
Like all of November.

857
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,680
And then we did like sort of a
before you watch episode with

858
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,600
all the great interviews that we
got to be a part of.

859
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,480
It's.
Been a couple months since a

860
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,080
long journey.
And this is.

861
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,720
February coming?
8 episodes of just the show.

862
00:45:17,720 --> 00:45:19,760
Yeah.
So yeah, 13 weeks.

863
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:20,440
Yeah.
And a.

864
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,400
And a lot has happened in those
13.

865
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:23,680
Weeks.
A lot has happened.

866
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,840
There's quite a few things that
like we've been watching and

867
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,560
doing stuff but didn't really
talk about on here.

868
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,240
And it's just all in Percy
Jackson.

869
00:45:31,240 --> 00:45:34,960
So if you want, I'm curious,
what do you guys want us to do

870
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,200
next?
Let us know.

871
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:36,600
Yeah.
So.

872
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,480
So tell us below those all those
things, Did you think Luke was

873
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:41,720
bad?
And also, what do you want us to

874
00:45:41,720 --> 00:45:43,640
talk about?
We're putting you guys to work.

875
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,880
Damn it comment.
Below, give us the stars.

876
00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:50,240
All right, So moving on, leaving
camp, I love scenes where, like,

877
00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:53,400
it's the end of a story and, you
know, there's more than, like

878
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,600
the friends or the group or
whatever has to like, we're

879
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,760
going to meet back here this
time next year.

880
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,480
Promise each other that we'll
always be there for each other.

881
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,200
It's so good.
Percy having his first bead on

882
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,680
his necklace.
It's so good having that final

883
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,400
conversation with Kyron, kind of
looping it all back when he

884
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,880
first got there.
Mr. D making a perform or an

885
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,280
appearance, still not knowing
his name, being freaking

886
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,160
amazing.
I loved it.

887
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,920
I wanted more Mr. D.
Yeah, I wanted more Mr. D, too.

888
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:27,640
And of course we have.
We see Annabeth kind of saying

889
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:32,400
goodbye to Thalia Grover with
his beautiful flower.

890
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:33,560
He's a searcher.
He's a.

891
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,360
Searcher.
I love that, like, because I

892
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:40,760
think, like, it's just like
you're told you're a searcher,

893
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,040
right?
They could probably actually

894
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,560
have licenses or whatever.
But I remember for the first

895
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,080
time I was like, what is their
license?

896
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,800
Now we know it's an amazing,
just beautiful little flower

897
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,720
that's on there.
I Does it wilt?

898
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:53,960
Does it always stay?
Does he have to water it?

899
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,000
Do you have to keep this license
alive?

900
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,000
Well, maybe, right.
It shows that you're an

901
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:05,760
advanced, you know, searcher.
You're an advanced gardener and

902
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,160
you have to keep it going.
You're an advanced gardener.

903
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:09,800
Is.
What he is an advanced gardener.

904
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,360
Let's not forget when Percy went
to tell him that he would be on

905
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,040
the quest with him, what was he
doing?

906
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,920
What he was in the field, he was
he was farming.

907
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,560
Yeah, that's true.
I just like how it's like you're

908
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,480
a searcher, also an advanced
gardener, now you.

909
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,880
Have to show that you know all
aspects of being one with

910
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,480
nature.
Yeah, so good.

911
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,400
So they say goodbye and he's
like, let's meet here this time

912
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,280
next year.
Annabeth gets to go to Disney

913
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,840
World with his dad, her dad, and
they're going to make it work.

914
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,200
They're going to at least try,
right?

915
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,720
Which I think is a huge step for
her and her family.

916
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,640
Her freaking out about what is
Disney World and what's going to

917
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,320
happen is so good.
And he's.

918
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,000
Just sad.
He just tells her to just be a

919
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,600
kid.
Yeah, just have fun.

920
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,440
You should.
You don't know any of the Wizard

921
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,360
of Oz or movie references that
I'm saying.

922
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,240
Can you, for the love of God,
please just be a kid?

923
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,320
You need to.
I wonder how's that going to be

924
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,000
for her, though?
And she went to Disney World

925
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,080
like she's not.
She's going to be on It's a

926
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:10,160
small world, chopping the heads
off of all the puppets just

927
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,320
because she wants to see how
they work, not because she feels

928
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:16,680
that they're dangerous.
Yeah, I mean, I would gladly let

929
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,440
her do that on that ride I can't
stand.

930
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,080
I love that ride.
I know you do.

931
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:21,440
It's.
I don't like.

932
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,240
I'm glad you do.
It's just I wouldn't think that

933
00:48:24,240 --> 00:48:25,400
that would be your favorite
ride.

934
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:27,640
It's so fun.
Really.

935
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,120
Yes, I love it.
It's just so wholesome and

936
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:31,480
delightful.
It doesn't like.

937
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,160
All the different puppets,
they're so crazy.

938
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:38,120
No, I'm just always like, look
at that one, look at that one.

939
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,720
And then they sneak.
Like Lilo and stitching.

940
00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:42,840
It's so fun.
What?

941
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,840
Yeah, Lilo's in it now.
No, I never saw that.

942
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,560
Yeah, they put the some of the
characters in from the different

943
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:49,600
places.
Well, that's fun.

944
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,760
Yeah.
Well, now I'll go on it just to

945
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,400
see if I could see the other.
Otherwise it would have just

946
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:57,160
been being by myself.
I do feel like she needs the,

947
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,520
like a crash, crash course on
like the major Disney stuff.

948
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,640
So that way she'll get the
references and stuff.

949
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,360
I mean, I'm sure she'd be
amazed, right?

950
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:08,640
It's just amazing.
And like, she was, you know, doe

951
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:13,440
eyed at the rundown water park.
She's going to be amazed at

952
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,880
Disney World.
I love, also love that it was

953
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,680
Disney World.
They're like, this is a Disney

954
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,360
property.
They're going to Disney World,

955
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,920
not Busch Gardens.
No, they're not going to Six

956
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:22,480
Flags.
Great.

957
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:28,320
Adventure.
I admit I got duped when it was

958
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:32,240
like him meeting his mom back at
the Montauk house.

959
00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:35,560
I was like, oh, yay.
I'm curious because we know that

960
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,080
that's Kronos, right?
And he's like, you know, you

961
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,440
let's see if you survive, what's
going to come.

962
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,000
And like, you should have gone
away when I told you do.

963
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:47,320
It's just like the big bad
toying with the hero of the

964
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,520
story, right?
And apparently he's been

965
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:54,360
plugging his dreams for a while.
But I'm curious if, like, we

966
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:58,160
didn't actually get to see the
reunion between Sally and Percy.

967
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,000
But I wonder if that was the
reunion and he's just reliving

968
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:03,240
it.
But then it's just changed.

969
00:50:03,240 --> 00:50:06,840
Yeah, I was thinking that too,
because we deserve to see that

970
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,200
reunion.
And so if that little snippet in

971
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:13,600
the beginning before you know
she turns is is what it was, I'm

972
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,920
I'm happy with that.
Yeah, I like the line that he

973
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:17,960
says.
It's like your survival is key

974
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,440
to my return.
Like mystery.

975
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,000
Oh.
Now we're in trouble.

976
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,440
One of the coolest things to see
Percy and Sally is that they

977
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:32,640
keep like a grandpa dream dream.
What did he say now?

978
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,280
What threats did he have for my
child this time?

979
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,000
And then Percy just being like,
just tell your mom you love her

980
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,320
sometime.
I'm like you, little stinker.

981
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:42,760
Yeah.
And she's like, this is serious.

982
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,240
Yeah, because now wants to kill
you.

983
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,440
Enough of your cute games.
But it's really sweet, right?

984
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,800
It's like they they overcame a
lot of stuff.

985
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,920
She's back.
She gets to make him blue

986
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,920
pancakes before he goes off to
7th grade, so it's like starting

987
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:57,960
over again.
But he has a place that he can

988
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:03,040
go to where he can be himself.
He just has to like go to shitty

989
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,760
public school and then get to go
to do the fun stuff.

990
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,120
But it does seem like their
house is a little warmer and

991
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,640
brighter and a little more love
in there.

992
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:17,000
It's fun to see, I admit.
I admit that I was hoping that

993
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,640
there would be a character that
isn't the next story show up.

994
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,640
Because I guarantee you if when
there's a second season and they

995
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,240
go downstairs, we're going to
see that character.

996
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:31,800
But I was like Tyson.
If Tyson shows up, I'm going to

997
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,160
lose my mind.
Did not.

998
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:34,520
He did not show up.
It's fine.

999
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,320
You know, we did have that
appearance of Chronos, which

1000
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:41,080
really kind of alludes to things
to come, but it didn't give us

1001
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,240
any sort of cliffhanger thing or
introduction of someone or a

1002
00:51:44,240 --> 00:51:47,000
last minute surprise.
Because it's like the greater

1003
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,080
right mystery of it.
It's like this is like the big

1004
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,360
bad coming back.
So it's like it's not going to

1005
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,640
be immediate, right?
This is a building thing.

1006
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,240
We just want to see our
characters that we love.

1007
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:05,160
Now Speaking of characters we
love to hate, if you stayed till

1008
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:09,240
after the first round of
credits, you get to see, because

1009
00:52:09,240 --> 00:52:12,960
this is what this is a question
we had in the beginning, the

1010
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:17,600
first episode, and also when we
read the books, was they in this

1011
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,960
show?
It wasn't clear, or at least it

1012
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,640
Percy didn't put it together,
that Gabe also physically abused

1013
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,720
his mother.
And we had the question or the

1014
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:29,960
conversation of like, OK, we
know that he gets turned to

1015
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:34,080
stone at the end of this.
Is that going to happen in here?

1016
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,840
Because would they show that?
You know what I mean?

1017
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,480
Like did he do enough?
Which I think he did, right.

1018
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:43,560
He's a piece of shit.
But like, was he, did he do

1019
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,680
enough to die, essentially?
You know, I'm glad he did

1020
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,000
because I love seeing it.
In the book, the way it was

1021
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:54,960
painted is that it felt like
Sally finally fought back and

1022
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,840
turned and used the head to turn
to stone, whereas in this it it

1023
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:03,480
felt like he was it was the
consequences of his own once

1024
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,760
again annoying actions, right?
Right.

1025
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:07,920
So he kind of sealed his own
fate.

1026
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,600
Which I kind of liked, right?
It's like, I guess don't put

1027
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,240
that on Sally, right?
Like, don't make her have that

1028
00:53:14,240 --> 00:53:17,160
because like she went to school
and she tried and everything and

1029
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,520
then she finally left the head
on the the thing for him to see.

1030
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,640
And then he got turned to stone
and then she sold his statue.

1031
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:27,080
Amazing badass.
I don't know if that would

1032
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,720
translate too well, right?
It's like she's going to kill

1033
00:53:29,720 --> 00:53:33,840
him and then like, sell his body
to make money and then start

1034
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,040
writing, yeah.
I'm hoping that in the next

1035
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,280
season they just use him as a
coat rack or something in the

1036
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,400
apartment, because what are they
going to do with that?

1037
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:42,920
Nothing.
It's just going to be gone.

1038
00:53:43,240 --> 00:53:45,480
They're going to go put it in
Medusa's Garden home.

1039
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:46,360
Emporium.
That makes sense.

1040
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:47,960
It's in New Jersey.
It's not that far away.

1041
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,600
Oh.
My God.

1042
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,400
Hey, before you go, you go.
You.

1043
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:55,360
You're.
Bye.

1044
00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:00,160
Before we go, we like to kind of
say some of our favorite things

1045
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:04,360
right from the season.
I have to ask you, I have one

1046
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:09,760
thing that I really want to ask
Who's your favorite monster this

1047
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,080
whole season?
OK, so it's it's a bit of a toss

1048
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:16,640
up.
OK, so my favorite monster

1049
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:22,480
parentheses comedy category is
the Minotaur because tighty

1050
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,880
whiteys.
Obviously my favorite monster

1051
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,280
parentheses back story category
is Medusa.

1052
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,960
Yeah, she was the most fleshed
out of all of the monsters, the

1053
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,120
one that we got to really know,
and I thought that it was

1054
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,120
really, really done well.
Is she a monster though?

1055
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,120
Some might say she is, some
might say she is.

1056
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,680
I think we're going to share
that with a lot of people,

1057
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,280
right?
I think Medusa was just

1058
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,880
beautifully done.
The actor, the story, everything

1059
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,680
was fantastic.
I think the chimera is my

1060
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,480
favorite, like monster.
I think that Chimera is

1061
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,200
beautiful.
I just loved how terrifying it

1062
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,320
was.
I loved the, like, juxtaposition

1063
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,640
between like this, like,
amalgamation of terrifying

1064
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:10,760
creatures and then echidna, who
look like could be like a school

1065
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,080
counselor right next to it.
I just love that, right?

1066
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,680
And it's like it like that image
alone is like, that's why I like

1067
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,560
Percy Jackson.
It's like putting these two

1068
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,600
things together.
Just my favorite.

1069
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,320
I think that's also one of my
favorite episodes.

1070
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:28,240
So the chimera, I hope you're
OK.

1071
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,360
The whole, the whole, like,
kidney chase scene was pretty

1072
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,720
fantastic.
And watching her, you know,

1073
00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:37,400
blast into the train and then
blame it on them, it was a very

1074
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,800
strong episode for sure.
We also found out about those

1075
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,920
elevator capsules that go up in
the Ark.

1076
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:47,400
We had thank you for the people
that told me, like those

1077
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,800
capsules have always been there
and actually showed me pictures.

1078
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:54,600
Thank you for that because I do
not remember that at all, which

1079
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:58,200
I think we have to go back and
do it to actually see them.

1080
00:55:58,720 --> 00:56:02,160
Yeah, like, let's go to Saint
Louis, just to go on there and

1081
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:03,880
be like the capsules are real
just.

1082
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,640
Being Percy Jackson going way
up.

1083
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,800
But thank you for.
Yeah.

1084
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,800
Thank you to our listeners for
always doing the research for

1085
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,280
us.
OK, that's it.

1086
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,920
That's Percy Jackson.
So much fun.

1087
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,560
Highly recommend.
I feel a little, I feel like for

1088
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,560
Lauren, I feel sad.
We've been living in this really

1089
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,000
wonderful, magical world.
We've gotten some.

1090
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,720
We've had some wonderful
conversations with people,

1091
00:56:29,720 --> 00:56:32,080
including our listeners.
So it feels a.

1092
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,960
Little made, few friends, yeah.
We've got some great

1093
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,120
experiences.
Wonderful show.

1094
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,400
You know.
One door closes, another one

1095
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:46,640
opens into Argon.
Yes, with more mayhem an

1096
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:50,040
adventure.
The absurd world of Argyle.

1097
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:51,640
Oh my gosh.
I'm obsessed with that cat.

1098
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,440
I'm obsessed with that cat.
I can't wait for you guys to see

1099
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,400
that movie.
If you like Matthew Vaughn,

1100
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,440
you're going to really enjoy
that movie.

1101
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,000
Absolutely.
So much fun.

1102
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:04,200
Oh, OK Well, until when this
comes out, there's like 2 days

1103
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:05,560
and then you guys get to see us
again.

1104
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,320
So see you in a couple of days.
See you folks.