Revisit WandaVision Before Agatha All Along | MCU

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Hello and welcome.
Don't touch that dial.

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It's Noah and the vision to my
Wanda, the Infinity stones to my

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Thanos Derek I we're back in
Westview guys, and we're also

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back.
We had a a tumultuous, you know,

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week in the in the abide of
household with like some food

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poisoning and stuff like that.
But like let's move on from

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that.
Let's go back in time to Wanda

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vision.
What an era, what an era.

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It was just a beautiful moment
in television history.

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It was a scary moment in the
world when it first came out,

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but man was it entertaining.
I'm really excited to talk about

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this show.
We have not seen it since it

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aired.
We did episodes on that.

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So if you want like our episode
by episode like deep dives

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because we were I would say a
whole nother podcast in that

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era.
This was 2021, right?

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This is it's 2024 now.
It's been a while.

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Pandemic, it's been a while.
I mean, even we weren't even

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doing video back then.
And on top of that, we had some

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sort of makeshift set up with
blankets hanging on the walls.

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So we've come a long way here at
about a podcast.

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My God, I'm excited though to
get into this before everything,

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follow us on all the socials,
Patreon, Discord, all of that

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great stuff.
We are going to be doing Agatha

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all along, hence why we're going
back to Westview.

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We thought it would be a good
idea to kind of revisit it,

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right?
We've been doing watch parties

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on our Discord.
So if you're not on our Discord,

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we have depending on when you're
listening to this or watching

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this, we have one more watch
party for the last three

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episodes of Want Division this
Sunday at 6:00 PM Eastern Time.

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So join the discord, hop in the
watch party channel chat.

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There's no mics.
We don't talk during watch

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parties, no.
We watch and we get our little

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fingies going and it's honestly
been a blast.

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I've been having a lot of fun.
So thank you to those who have

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been joining us and you should
all join us for the last.

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One so good.
OK, this is weird because like

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spoiler alert, yeah, I guess
it's been out for 3 + 3 years.

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A little over three years.
All of One Division slash the

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MCU thus far can be spoiled
going forward.

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The plot.
Is Wanda Vision the first MCU

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show?
So let us officially take

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another bite of Wanda Vision,
right?

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Nailed it.
So let's pretend, OK, we did a

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rewatch already.
We watched all nine episodes,

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which was an interesting thing
to do because we watched it as

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it was coming out so we haven't
binged it before.

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So seeing the last time I Wand
Division and not skipping any of

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that because why would you?
Let's pretend the like social

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media embargo is still
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Give me your initial reactions
to re watching Wand Division.

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Like what are your thoughts?
How do you feel about going back

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to Westview?
Oh, so like we said, we have not

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watched this since it first came
out, when it was coming out week

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by week.
And ever since then, whenever

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we've done a Marvel series,
we've always kind of done this

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thing of what are your top five
Marvel series?

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And one division always landed
in my number one spot.

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I am happy to say that after re
watching it, it is not only

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still in my number one spot, but
it is highlighted, it is bolded,

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it is glittering gold and it
just still is so good after all

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this time.
Yeah, you did have Miss Marvel,

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I think above that.
So would you, I?

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Don't think I ever did.
Or was that mean?

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That was you.
That was probably me.

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Yeah.
I mean, I I think Wanda Vision

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is my top five of like favorite
MCU Marvel things ever.

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I think it is almost a near
perfect thing that Marvel has

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ever done.
It was the beginning of phase

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four.
It was post end game.

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What was going to happen?
We had a pandemic.

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But like, I think it, it's, it's
interesting to separate.

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Like, so now we're far away from
that time, right when all the

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theories are going out.
There's the Mephisto thing,

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there's the connections with
everything.

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But like, everybody was so
together in this show, at least

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on the Internet, right in the
circles that we were doing and

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on this podcast.
And we really found a lot of the

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people, our community that way.
So it holds a very special place

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in my heart.
But watching it separated right

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from the Internet and watching
it every week, it's still so

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good.
It's still holds up perfectly.

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That's exactly it.
At at the time, there was a bit

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of a hype around it, I think,
and that kind of added to our

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excitement and watching it.
But watching it now when all

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that has faded, it's still just
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I think that there are so many
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First, I I think that there was
a lot of care given to this

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series, right?
Because this was the first

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Marvel television series, right?
So you could tell that the

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plotting was perfectly done each
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There wasn't a wasted episode,
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None of these episodes felt like
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They were all working together
to tell the story.

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And really, in an ingenious way,
right?

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To tell the same one linear
story through different

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nostalgic sitcom eras.
Through decades.

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Through decades.
And So what a feat to have to

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over to take.
And I think that in looking at

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the work that was done,
obviously with the sets and the

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costuming and how they were
still themselves through all

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these different decades, even
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or they were dressing
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house, even though the house
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episode, there was still the
staircase, there was still the

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fireplace.
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were a nod to the one that came
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So I think in watching this,
just seeing how meticulously it

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was planned and how well it was
done, it still holds up three

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years later.
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think like our like initial
reactions rewatching it still

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loved it still holds up.
Go rewatch it if you haven't

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join us this Sunday to watch the
last three episodes into Agatha

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all along.
But it was fun rewatching this

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with the eye of looking for
things that we might have missed

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last time, which there was a
few, but also realizing what the

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story was trying to tell us in
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Because I think the thing that
we missed watching it for the

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first time and not going back
and watching it is that we know

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what the story was, right?
We know that it was about her

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grief.
We know that it was she was

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trying to get all the things
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And we know that Agatha was
pulling a lot of strings.

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So watching it again from the
beginning and knowing that it's

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like, oh, that's why that
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happened.
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happening at the ticking time
bomb type ad and it was the bomb

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that her and her brother were
staring at for two days, you

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know.
So it's interesting re watching

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it and knowing what happens in
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But also like just like in awe
of the cast, Paul Bettany,

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Elizabeth Olsen, Kathryn Hahn,
everybody, Tiana Paris.

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So good.
Not only playing the comedy, but

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the drama.
Oh my God, just flip flopping

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between the both of them.
So fantastic.

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Yeah, absolutely.
And you know, to go back to one

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of the points that you were just
making about knowing the things

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that are going to happen and
kind of following along with it

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as it's being revealed, it was
nice not having the static of

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the questions, right?
Isn't Mephisto, who is this?

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You know, what does this mean as
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Quicksilver being here, you
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that and really just watch it
and see how, you know, these

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actors obviously knew the the
trajectory, right, right, of

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what was happening.
But to see them play it out and

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know what they were playing out,
you could see the little minute

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details that they were working
in there and just really how

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impressive that is.
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right, who was kind of the
breakout star of the series, but

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even taking into account Paul
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Vision existing in this world,
being so happy across from the

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love of his life.
But slowly realizing that things

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aren't right and and looking at
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but by destroying other people's
lives and and giving up that

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happiness to make the world
quote right again.

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Yeah, I, it is interesting,
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Even after, I mean, I have my
feelings, especially if you're

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watching this.
I have my feelings.

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I feel, God, I said feelings how
many times a month?

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I feel like now I'm trying not
to say that word and now it's

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really hard.
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My thoughts are thinking about
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It is a very interesting
contrast with rewatching One

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Division, because I think
watching One Division One, then

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watching Multiverse of Madness
and being like, OK, I can kind

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of see like why Wanda would go
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Like there's the dark hold.
It's infecting her, right?

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But watching again it, it does
kind of irk me a bit what they

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did with her in multiverse of
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And that's like a whole nother
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But in what I'm really excited
for is that not only are we

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getting an Agatha spin off and
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but Wonder Man, which we talked
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throughs with this because we
see the Grim Reaper mask in one

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of the the opening credits and
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This show alone is getting like
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That just shows you like how
much story there is, but how

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much these characters mean to
people.

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And I'm very excited to see what
they do with Agatha in this.

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So Speaking of Agatha, watching
it again and seeing how in the

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first pilot episode, how she
kept trying to like be there, be

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the nosy neighbor, but be in
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help but not hinder at the same
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We know that she wants her
powers.

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We know that she wants that
autopilot magic that she talks

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about South.
Seeing her like put Wanda in

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these situations of let's see,
let me test her abilities.

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Let me see how far she can go.
Was cool to see because I didn't

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realize that even watching it
the first time through knowing

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what happened.
And I also think there's a piece

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of what Agatha is doing when
you're watching it the second

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time around that you could
really see where she's trying to

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gain Wanda's trust, right?
To ultimately basically hold her

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children captive so that she can
then get Wanda in her lair, you

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know, in the basement of her
house.

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And so it's so fun watching this
character that's supposed to be

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kind of like the wild next door
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But in reality, there's a deeper
and darker truth to it, which I

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love.
And I think that Katherine Hahn

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does that so well.
And you can see in all those

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moments how she's playing it up,
how she's leaning into it.

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And even when you think of that,
the episode, I think it's on a

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on a very special episode when
the boys grow up in an instant,

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when that happens, she goes
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And when she comes in first and
she says to Wanda, did you want

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me to take that again?
You know, she's pushing her

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buttons.
She's trying to get her to react

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in a certain way.
And I just think the diabolical

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nature of who Agatha at that
time known as Agnes, is, it's

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more fun to watch the second
time around because you know

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what she's truly doing.
Yeah, I think she does.

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And she also was trying to
encourage her to go as far as

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she can, right?
Because she calls her chaos

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magic.
She's the reason why we know why

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she's now called the Scarlet
Witch.

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We we have that like actual
magic part of the MCU aside from

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Doctor Strange being ushered in
because she's old, right?

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What I have loved about Agatha
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Catherine Hahn, is that they
made like second sexy Agatha

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Harkness a thing because in the
comics she's an old woman.

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She's like a governess, right?
She's a nanny.

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But ever since Catherine Hahn,
they're like, oh, we should make

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her look sexy.
So they've done that in the

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comics where now she's also
sexy.

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So she's not an old woman
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So that is the effect that
Catherine Hahn has on the MCU.

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Yes, the the the Yesification of
Agatha, Agatha Harkness.

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One question I do have though,

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that I was wondering, and maybe
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missed it.
So in watching it the first

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time, you think that Agatha, I
keep wanting to call her Agnes

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because that's what she called
for most of this Agatha.

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Agatha, you think that she lived
in Westview and she's just kind

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of put under this trance that
Wanda has put them all under.

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So my question is, when did
Agatha actually get to Westview?

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I don't think they answered.
That they don't, right?

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I think there was a part in the
episode where she takes her down

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to the basement and she's she's
talking about it like she's

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revealing herself, right?
Her hair is all like tussled up

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and she's not the put together
nosy neighbor anymore.

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She let her hair down, if you
will.

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She says something about like
she felt it or she knew like how

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much magic was here and she was
drawn to it.

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So I I actually like thinking
back, I'm like, were you drawn

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to it while Wanda was there or
were you already there?

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Like there was something about
that place in general.

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So I'm not too sure.
Maybe in Agatha all along or

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listener, if you know, just let
us know.

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The moment that vision signed
the deed, now she could feel the

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magic and she moved there.
She's watching that again.

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It is really interesting just
thinking about the show, how

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they did it right.
Because I think all of us in the

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first episode, we do get that
dinner with the hearts where you

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know that Deborah Joe Rep where
she was like, stop it, stop it.

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Not only is it like stop, you
know, taking over all of us, but

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also like stop him from choking
where the entire episode

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flipped, right?
The first 3 episodes are so kind

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of just fun and airy.
And then as it gets on, it gets

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dark and it gets serious.
It still has that funny nature,

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right?
Because they are sitcoms and

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they're still doing that
throughout the decades.

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But it's interesting to see how
even the sitcoms through the

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decades, how they changed with
that story.

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So I like that watching it again
and watching it an all one big

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spurt almost that it just not
only did the story change with

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what they were doing, but it was
just cool to see in real time.

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Yeah.
And I I have to admit that those

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first 3 episodes are really my
favorite part of this series,

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the 1st.
Episode the pilot is so good, so

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good.
I love living just in Westview,

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right, because once we get past
those three, right in the third

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one now in color, we meet Monica
Tiona Paris and then we see her

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get thrown outside of the heck.
So we know what's going on out

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there.
But really just living in

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Westview with Wanda and Vision
in that sort of fake happy

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place.
But yet we have those weird

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occurrences, right?
We have this sort of drone

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helicopter come in.
We have the thing with the

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radio.
The beekeeper.

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The beekeeper.
All those little creepy

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mysteries, I loved living in
that Westview with them.

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Before we get into all the sword
conspiracy stuff, yeah, I

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appreciate it it.
Was a lot of fun because it's

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like once you get toward to the
end, it's like, oh, the

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beekeeper wasn't Mephisto, it
was just the worker from Sword

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and it just changed him as he
went into the sitcom, right?

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Having Darcy in there, having
Jimmy Woo.

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I mean, the show just introduced
so many good characters and what

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I'm loving.
So Jack Schaefer was kind of a

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Co creator for the show with
Matt Shackman, definitely a

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writer for Wanda Vision.
And they're the ones that took

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on doing Agatha, which is really
exciting because you have

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somebody that was there for the
creation of Wanda Vision

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carrying on that feel.
And with Agatha, we're still

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getting that formula of, you
know, each episode is like a

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different thing, but it's a
horror genre, right?

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That's what they said at least.
And I'm, I'm not sure it's going

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to be like exactly like Wanda
Vision where it's like a

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televised thing.
But just even looking at the

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trailers, it's like, oh, there's
like Wizard of Oz.

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There's like you party with the
Ouija board.

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It's it looks very like, OK,
these are horror movies or

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elements.
One of the things that I noticed

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in their ad campaign is I think
a week or two ago they released

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new posters for the show.
And what was interesting is that

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on my, My, My feed, there was
different outlets saying, oh, a

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new poster just dropped.
But they were different posters

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each time, and each one was
emulating a different horror

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genre.
Sort of like the haunted house,

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The woods.
And then also some that were out

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of left field.
So it was like True Detective

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was one of them that they were
emulating.

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I believe the first trailer we
got for Agatha was mayor of East

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Town.
So it does very much seem like

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they're going for the gritty
mystery but also horror side of

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that.
That makes me so happy.

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I think one of the posters was
Monster House which was.

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Like, yeah.
Somebody is a fan of Monster.

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House, they're like, Oh my God,
we have to do it to Monster

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House.
What was Do you have a favorite

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episode?
If you could pick one episode

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above all of them, out of these
9 episodes, which one would be

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your favorite?
It's oh, yeah, yeah, it's, oh,

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that's a really good question.
I either want to say episode one

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film before a live studio
audience or episode 3 now in

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color.
Very good.

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You got either like the Dick Van
Dyke Show or the Brady Bunch.

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Exactly.
And I'm thinking about kind of

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really what they're setting up,
right.

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So the first one is all those
initial mysteries of what the

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heck is going on here, because
they don't even know what's

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going on here.
They don't know why there's a

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heart on their calendar.
But then now in color is when we

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start to see the darker side of
Wanda in this, especially in

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that conversation with Monica
Rambo.

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Literally trying to like, Nope,
you're not going to like, take

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my fantasy away.
You're supposed to be in

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character.
Yeah.

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And of course, the camp of the
stork coming off the painting in

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the room.
And so just like that can't be

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70s hijinks as well.
How about you?

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I love the first episode as
well.

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I think it's it's so so good.
But an all new Halloween

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spectacular is probably my
favorite, not only for like it's

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in Halloween, but like that's
when it like all this stuff

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starts coming together.
Everything starts melting

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together.
And then you really have Vision

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going off on his own.
So you get to see Wanda spiral a

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little bit trying to come to
terms with, oh, this is what

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I've been doing, even if it was
on purpose or not.

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Also, how do I control it with
having the person that I love

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still love me willingly?
So it's like, where does that

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free will and control come from?
Where does the healing and

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trauma stop?
So it was.

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It's an amazing episode.
I just love that you also still

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get that family aspect of it
before it all falls apart.

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And not to mention the classic
costumes.

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Exactly right.
She's like Scarlet Witch from

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back in the day.
He's Vision from back in the

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day.
It's just perfection.

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Or a fortune teller, as she
says.

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Right.
Exactly.

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And he's a luchador.
Yeah, Yeah, OK.

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And I love that the look they
give each other is very much

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emulating like that that Scarlet
Witch envisioned comic of them

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looking at each.
Other totally and and in that

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episode is when you really see
it the the cracks in the

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relationship because he comes
down, he says something along

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the lines of well, this is the
only thing in my closet.

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Right, because you didn't give
me anything else.

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Yeah, it's, it's such a good
show.

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I'm very excited to see what
they do with Agatha.

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Right.
We have the mystery upon mystery

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just in the trailers and stuff
alone.

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It seems very much like, oh,
something interesting is

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happening.
We have Joe Locke playing the

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teen.
That's what they're calling him.

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That's everything I'm, I'm
curious to see, like is it going

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to be Wiccan?
If so, why?

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How, what?
But I'm so excited for us to get

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more witches, more magic.
That is one of my favorite

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aspects of Marvel Comics.
So I'm glad that we're getting

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more of it.
And it's not like Doctor

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Strange, right?
Because I feel like Doctor

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Strange now is like multiversal
and it's like.

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It's a different type of magic.
It feels more like practiced,

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where Agatha feels more like
witches, right?

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It feels like cauldrony.
It feels like it could be

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anything and you don't know.
There's runes.

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I don't know.
It's it's like a different vibe.

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Yeah, One of the things I'm most
interested in is that how Missus

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Hart or whatever her real name
is, Deborah Joe Rupp, is now one

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of the witches in the coven.
Yeah.

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What?
So I I.

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Wanted to know she is a witch.
Well, right, So I'm curious to

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know how, because I mean, I love
Deborah, Joe, Rob, you know what

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I mean?
I mean, she's Kitty, the amazing

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Kitty from that 70s.
Show what a perfect person to

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include in one division because
like she is one of the faces for

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a lot of us for sitcoms right
because of that 70s Show and so

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to include her in it was just
it's very.

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Special And of course the fact
that That 70s Show is a a sitcom

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based in another decade and that
came out.

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And not filmed right in that
decade.

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Exactly.
So that was really just great

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casting.
And so I'm interested to see how

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we see Missus Hart's evolution
into becoming a part of this

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coven.
I don't cover coven I I don't

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think this is my theory, right?
OK, if you don't want this to be

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spoiled, I don't know for sure,
but like if you don't want

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anything like Skip.
Maybe.

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Spoiler alert, yeah.
So there's a part where it looks

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like she gets to the witch's
road by going through some type

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of like cellar door situation.
I'm thinking it's in her

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basement and she just happens to
be along for the ride.

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So I don't know if she's a witch
necessarily, but she kind of

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it's in her basement and then so
she's like going along with it,

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right?
And then she just goes along for

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the ride.
So that's my theory.

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Like, I think it would be funny
to have this group of witches,

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mysterious teen Agatha, leading
it and then like a normal

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civilian tagging along.
Yeah, she could do it.

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Yeah, it is interesting though,
because I think in one of the

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one of the clips though, she
says she's something like an

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earthen witch or something like
that.

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So she does give herself a title
of witch.

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I don't know, really.
Yeah, I didn't see that.

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I I it's when well.
Erase everything I just said.

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Well, yeah, it's like, but who
knows though, maybe it is in her

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basement and Agatha just makes
her a witch.

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Who says that she's a witch and
gives her that that title?

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That's interesting because I
know Rio is the green witch.

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Yeah, it's something like that.
Potions, protection.

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I'm very excited.
That cast is stacked and it

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loves that they're going to be
singing.

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You can't have Patti Lupone.
I was going to say, I mean Tony

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multiple Tony award-winning
Patti Lupone is in this.

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I mean, that's like mind, mind
flowing.

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I mean, the fact that like I
never in a million years would

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you have like would I have
thought like Joe Locke from

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heart Stopper, Patti Lupone,
Aubrey Plaza, Zasheer Zamata,

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Like it's it's like the wildest
bunch of people, but I think

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it's going to make so much
sense.

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And what a like a fun time, not
only for this podcast, because

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we're going Agatha along
directly into Heart Stopper,

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which we are doing.
So we're getting like double

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doses of Joe Locke.
It's just a fun time for

449
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,360
everybody.
I'm very excited for this.

450
00:23:32,360 --> 00:23:34,960
And it, and I mean, to speak
outside of this, it feels like

451
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,600
we've been in a little bit of a
drought over the summer of

452
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,200
things to watch.
And so it's kind of going full

453
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,960
force into fall, which is.
Exciting.

454
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,600
Yeah.
And this is one of the very few

455
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,840
Marvel properties that are
coming out this year.

456
00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:49,120
So it's exciting.
You know, I'm glad that they

457
00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:51,760
scaled back a bit because
watching something that was

458
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:56,440
their very first TV go and how
much care and attention and just

459
00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:01,000
so well done.
And then some of the stuff we

460
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:05,600
got, Secret Invasion, I'm sorry.
Don't be sorry, it's the truth.

461
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:11,600
We tried, but I'm glad they're
realizing something right and

462
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,320
they need to do that.
So my fingers are crossed.

463
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,760
Agatha All Along does really
well and it's a great show and

464
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,520
people receive it well.
Horror.

465
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,160
Horror.
My God.

466
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:23,480
You sound like you're from New
York.

467
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,560
Oh God, horror.
See.

468
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,120
OK, horror.
It's horror.

469
00:24:28,120 --> 00:24:31,480
It's sound.
That is one of the words that I

470
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,680
feel like if you think about too
much, you cannot say it starts

471
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,120
coming out worse and worse.
So you know what I mean?

472
00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:39,600
Spooky, spooky, spooky.
Yeah, let's stick with that.

473
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:40,520
I'm.
Not going to say.

474
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,600
It again and I, I do want to
also, one of the things that I

475
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,640
was thinking about is like you
had said, how how I feel like as

476
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,840
the series went on for Marvel,
there there were conversations

477
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,640
that we were having when we were
going, OK, but why did they do

478
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,440
that?
Why did this happen?

479
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,440
It doesn't make sense.
Whereas in one Division I never

480
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,840
felt that way.
You know, yeah, I think it was

481
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,840
like one, it was new territory,
but it was also like these

482
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:09,320
characters were familiar, right?
And we knew generally that the

483
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,080
show was going to be taking
place in something that was

484
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,240
self-contained.
So it was almost like we had the

485
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,800
freedom to just sit there and be
along for the ride as opposed to

486
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,360
some of this other stuff where
it was like, why are we doing

487
00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:24,120
this?
Like this is out in the real

488
00:25:24,120 --> 00:25:26,280
world.
Like this is interesting, you

489
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,120
know, So I feel like that that's
an aspect personally with Wanda

490
00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:32,640
Vision where it's like it's
self-contained and we could just

491
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,400
like sit there and be like, what
is going to happen?

492
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,040
Anything can happen because
Wanda is Wanda and she's doing

493
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,960
this.
But then it was devastating,

494
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,560
right?
Yeah, it really was.

495
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,880
I have to say, upon second
viewing, I understood the ship

496
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,400
of Theseus a little more.
So I was, I was happy to go back

497
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,080
and and watch that.
And I feel like the first time

498
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,240
we watched it, it was like
during that 5:00 in the morning

499
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,080
phase that we had of watching
Marvel shows.

500
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,960
So giving me deep philosophy in
the middle of a fight at 5:00 in

501
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,440
the morning, my brain could not
handle it.

502
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,520
But this time I was like, OK, I
get it.

503
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:03,600
I get what they're doing here
it.

504
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,520
Makes me excited for the Vision
show.

505
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,680
Too.
Because we're just we're, we're

506
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,920
going to be getting vision.
It's just that he's going to be

507
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,080
a different color.
Well.

508
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:13,720
Right.
It's it's going to be

509
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,760
interesting because like, what
type of vision is this?

510
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:21,240
Because that white vision left
right after he was like, oh,

511
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,760
like I can't kill you because
you're not the true vision, but

512
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,800
I'm not the true vision either.
But also, I have all of the

513
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,280
downloaded memories of the
vision, so am I the vision?

514
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,880
Yeah, so he's going to go off.
I I'm curious because I know

515
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,560
that they're taking inspiration
from Tom King's Vision series

516
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:42,320
where he has like a wife and
kids that are like androids as

517
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,880
well.
Don't tell Wanda he gets

518
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,240
remarried and has more kids.
She's going to kill them.

519
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,440
Well.
And a dog named Sparky.

520
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,560
So it's going to be interesting.
Are we going to get the same

521
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:56,840
type of like W viewing situation
where he's pretending to have a

522
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,440
family or does he make a family?
Like what's going to happen?

523
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,160
So I'm very excited for that.
Yeah, that'll be interesting.

524
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,840
But I mean, you know, I, I, we
kind of wanted to do this

525
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:10,160
episode to get us, get us back
in the mind space of Wanda

526
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,440
Vision in to Agatha, right?
Is there anything that you're

527
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,880
really looking forward to for
Agatha after watching this?

528
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:25,600
I think that what I'm looking
forward to is the arc for Agatha

529
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,720
in the sense that, I mean, we
had to know that she wasn't

530
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,960
going to just sit quietly in
Westview and play the role.

531
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,960
Well, it seems like until
somebody wakes her up, right?

532
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,680
And.
So that's The thing is, that's

533
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,880
what I'm most curious about.
How does she get woken up?

534
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,320
What does this journey mean for
her?

535
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,680
And at the end of it, you know,
if she survives all this and she

536
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,680
does get her magic back, what
does that mean for the greater

537
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,920
narrative of the story of is she
going to try and find Wanda

538
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,480
again?
Is she going to try and enact

539
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,120
revenge?
Or will she not even make it?

540
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,840
That we don't know.
Do you think Wanda's going to

541
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,880
come back in Agatha all along?
No, really.

542
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,800
Yeah.
I think, I hope she does

543
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,760
personally.
I, I mean, I think it's one of

544
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:12,760
those things where I miss having
her in the MCU and I think she

545
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,880
is such a powerhouse and there's
so much of her left untold and

546
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,840
she deserves a better chance.
That's the thing I agree with,

547
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,600
and you had kind of touched on
it before, was that at the end

548
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,600
of this series, she understands
what she's done and she

549
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:32,360
understands why it was wrong.
So for her to completely go in

550
00:28:32,360 --> 00:28:35,680
the opposite direction in
Multiverse of Madness, it's,

551
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,960
it's confusing.
Yeah, and it's, it's one of

552
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,200
those things again, this we
could literally do a whole

553
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,840
another podcast of like
revisiting everything that

554
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,880
Wanda's ever done.
I I, I think it's one of those

555
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,200
things of two separate people
having two separate visions.

556
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,640
And it was set up to be any type
of way.

557
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,160
And unfortunately it was just
like a certain direction, right.

558
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,840
I know that recently there's
been, I don't know if this is

559
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,360
true, but like somebody had saw
like somebody revealed

560
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,760
information about like the first
kind of script for the Wanda's

561
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,600
story or whatever.
And it was going to be Wanda was

562
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,440
a protagonist and with Doctor
Strange the whole time and like

563
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,840
fighting something.
So she was supposed to be a hero

564
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,720
with Doctor Strange supposedly,
right?

565
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,200
Made her a villain.
Which I don't want to believe

566
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,800
because then that would make me
mad, you know?

567
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,120
Yeah.
And Wanda is a very complicated

568
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,040
character, right?
She has been in the in the

569
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,600
comics, so I do think it is good
to have a complicated story for

570
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,240
her, but right after one
division is odd.

571
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,880
Now it does involve her
children, so hey, no more

572
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,680
mutants.
That's where that comes from,

573
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,280
so.
I mean, I guess, I guess we

574
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:46,360
could say although we learned
that this whole Westview

575
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,320
experience happened because of
her grief, she still never came

576
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,480
to terms with.
They're all through therapy

577
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:54,520
still.
Absolutely.

578
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,760
And don't forget she she
realized what she did was wrong

579
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,080
and then at the end of it, she
was left by herself again.

580
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,560
But still, I don't want to
believe that that then means

581
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,600
that you go stealing other
versions of yourselves, kids.

582
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,720
No, no, the dark hold was there,
so that's what I'm like.

583
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,520
Elastic to her right?
Right.

584
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,640
I'm, I'm very much looking
forward to that arc for Agatha

585
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,000
as well.
And what does that look like?

586
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,280
Like what is going to be
ultimately where that series

587
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:20,400
leaves off?
Like what?

588
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,880
What is she going to be?
Is she going to be more in line

589
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,480
with the Agatha that's in the
comics?

590
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,920
Well, Agatha can be an
antagonist, but she's not like

591
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,880
world dominating, right?
So where is that going to leave?

592
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,880
Her and in the Vision series,
right, she's kind of, she helps

593
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,520
them, doesn't she?
Or is she evil in the Vision

594
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:43,960
series?
But she does.

595
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,680
Right, she helps them.
Yeah, right.

596
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,120
So she's not like a bad.
She's not talking about.

597
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:49,000
The comic.
The comic?

598
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:53,440
Yes, exactly.
So maybe that's what it is.

599
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,200
She she goes through this and
gets some sort of pay, some sort

600
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,000
of penance and comes out sort of
a better witch on the other

601
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:00,720
side.
Yeah.

602
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,760
I mean, I think that some of the
things that make Agatha, Agatha

603
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:08,480
is like she does kind of look
out for herself, but generally,

604
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,760
you know, especially for like
which kind she will, you know,

605
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,440
bat for the right team depending
so.

606
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:21,560
Homosexuals.
Yeah, I, I mean, that's what I'm

607
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,360
excited for.
I'm excited to just see Agatha

608
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,560
and I'm excited to be back in
Westview in some shape or form.

609
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,480
Adding Aubrey Plaza and the
whole cast is just going to be,

610
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,480
if you've never seen Legion,
that was on FX, Aubrey Plaza,

611
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,400
that was like her first dip into
Marvel stuff.

612
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,960
She played Lenny fantastic.
That's actually what made me

613
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:46,360
love Aubrey Plaza.
Insane acting, just bonkers out

614
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:47,960
of this world.
She's a great.

615
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,680
I'm excited to see what she.
Does I just want to completely

616
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,440
give myself over to whatever
journey this group of actors

617
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,560
wants to take me on because
they're just too powerful not to

618
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,120
do that?
So whisk me away, Catherine Hahn

619
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,560
ET al.
I am I am in for the journey.

620
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,240
Is there anything, OK, we're,
we're wrapping this up right?

621
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,960
Is there anything that you
noticed about Agatha this watch

622
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,160
through?
Because we're, you know, we're

623
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,960
tying this back into Agatha all
along.

624
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,080
Is there anything that you
noticed this watch through or

625
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:19,440
appreciated with Agatha
specifically going into?

626
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,480
Yeah, I think it was what I had
said before and the fact that

627
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,400
you really got to see the poking
and prodding she was doing the

628
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,720
entire time and how the helpful
zany neighbor was actually

629
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,680
someone that was trying to get
in there and get information.

630
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,720
And I really appreciated that.
Agreed.

631
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,440
Yeah, I love the.
I think the reveal hits just as

632
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,480
hard because like even though
you're watching it and you know

633
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,720
what's going to happen, just
watching it again, it's just

634
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:49,200
like, I'm like oddly rooting for
her and it's just so cool.

635
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,840
But then like, I don't think I
sympathized again.

636
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,720
I could be contradicting myself
because we've done episodes on

637
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,520
every single one of these
episodes before.

638
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,920
I don't think I sympathize with
her as much the first time as I

639
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,360
did this time.
Just seeing like her origin

640
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,200
story, almost like she she was
drawn to the dark forbidden

641
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,200
magic and she just couldn't help
it, right?

642
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,960
And she ended up, yes, like
killing her coven for it, But

643
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,560
like, what does that look like?
Is she going to answer for that?

644
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,640
Is there going to be some
repercussions in Agatha?

645
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,400
So I'm I'm curious to see what
that's going to be.

646
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,240
I'm very excited.
Also, what made me excited

647
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,640
watching this, Matt Shakman is
the one that creative mind

648
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,960
director for Wanda Vision.
He's doing Fantastic Four steps,

649
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,800
which is also like a period
piece that makes me so excited.

650
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,760
Well, we know he can do it well,
so.

651
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,800
He met with Dick Van Dyke to do
the show.

652
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,840
They made Vision blue because it
wouldn't show up right in black

653
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,160
and white.
I'm just, you know.

654
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,520
They know what they're doing.
They know what?

655
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,560
They're doing and I also just
want to say the missile coming

656
00:33:54,560 --> 00:34:00,600
in to the Maximoff apartment
literally made me yell out loud.

657
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,560
I completely forgot they jump
scared me and they got me good.

658
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,800
Yeah, it's so abrupt, the
editing in this show, fantastic.

659
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,719
Watching it again, some like
especially during the watch

660
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,719
party, I'm like, Oh my God, the
computer skipped or like it like

661
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:14,880
something's wrong with the
Internet.

662
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,960
It's like, no, that's just how
they edit it so good so.

663
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,760
Good.
Just so perfectly executed.

664
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,679
Well done.
Man, I'm excited.

665
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,600
Let us know what you're excited
about.

666
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,480
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667
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668
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669
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670
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,520
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671
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:44,400
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672
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Don't forget that watch party

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Sunday, 6:00 PM with Agaza.
All right, see you next time.

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Bye.