July 11, 2025

SUPERMAN Movie Review

SUPERMAN Movie Review
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SUPERMAN Movie Review

Look up! It's our review of James Gunn's SUPERMAN! On the menu: James Gunn’s first chapter for DC Studio Movies, Superman’s humor & heart, David Corenswet’s Clark Kent/Superman, Rachel Brosnahan’s Lois, why Lex Luthor is so evil, the best dog Krypto, who will the Justice Gang become, and more!

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(00:00) - Intro & Update

(02:18) - General Thoughts

(05:08) - Superman & David Corenswet

(08:18) - Rachel Brosnahan & Lois Lane

(11:03) - Guy Gardner, Mr. Terrific & Hawkgirl

(16:01) - Lex Luthor & Nicholas Hoult(23:29) - Krypto & Final Thoughts

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I know he's a Superman, but you
know who's a good boy?

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Oh no.
Crypto, OH.

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Yeah, I didn't know where that
was going.

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It's just a pop.
He's.

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Always listening and thank you
for listening to this episode of

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A Bite of I'm Derek.
That's Noah.

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And today we are talking about
James Gunn's Superman.

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Yes, Superman DCU has officially
started.

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We have lots of thoughts.
We are literally fresh from

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seeing the movie.
We saw a mirror like hour ago.

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We have lots of thoughts.
Before we get into it, make sure

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you're following comments.
Are you excited for James Gunn

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Superman?
If you've seen it, what do you

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think?
Let us know down below in the

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comments.
If you're listening to this,

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follow us leave a review.
There's many ways that you can

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consume this media here, so
spoilers ahead for Superman as a

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character and definitely James
Gunn Superman.

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Absolutely.
All right, so let us officially

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take a bite of Superman.
Written and directed by James

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Gunn.
Superman's place in the world is

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questioned after he stops a war
between two foreign nations.

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Using these rising tensions and
many under the table deals, Lex

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Luthor attacks Superman in as
many ways as he can.

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His envy drives him to not only
put Superman's existence in

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jeopardy, but the Earth's as
well.

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Earth's.
Earth's that Lex with her, He's

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got a chip on his shoulder.
Let me tell you something.

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He.
Really does.

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So angry, So angry.
OK, So what did you think of the

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first starting off point for the
DCU let?

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Me tell you a little something
about this movie right here, OK?

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It had action.
It had heart.

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It had laughs.
That I think was my favorite

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part about it was that it didn't
take itself too seriously.

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That's really general thoughts.
OK, How about you?

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What'd you?
Think we'll leave it there.

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Yeah, I think there's this word
that's been going around with

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the the early reviews and stuff.
It's like the most comic booky

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comic book movie.
And I didn't know what that

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meant going into it, but I
agree.

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Like, I think I finally
understand there's a lot of not

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really caring to hold people's
hands into the weird, wacky

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world of comic books when it
comes to this movie.

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And I really enjoyed the
silliness that Superman can be.

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One of my favorite things about
reading Superman comics is yes,

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there is serious moments and
there's big world ending things

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that happened, but this just
James Gunn gets the character.

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So my general thoughts is James
Gunn gets it.

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And I left that movie with a
huge smile on my face.

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Yeah, absolutely.
And you know, the thing with

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James Gunn is that, as we know,
I mean, he did the right MCU and

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now he's doing, are they calling
it the DCU?

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Is that what they're calling it?
And I think that it had a

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different feel from the MCU.
And I think that was smart,

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right?
He wasn't just replicating what

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he's already done.
He's taking these this other

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universe and giving it a
different kind of spin.

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Now, do I think that it, as it
goes on, needs to be slapsticky

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or anything like that?
No, absolutely not.

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But I do like these little nods
to things that happened

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throughout the film that make
you laugh a little.

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You know, one of the things that
I thought was so nicely

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downplayed is Superman and Lois
are having a conversation.

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She hands him Coco.
They're kind of just talking

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about their next steps, what's
going on?

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And there's, like, a galactic
fight happening in the

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background.
And it wasn't over the top.

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No one came flying through the
window.

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It's just like, this is their
life, and that's how it's

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happening.
Yeah.

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That was a lot of fun.
One thing that I really liked

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about this movie and what James
Gunn I think did with it is it

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didn't give us Krypton
exploding.

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We don't need that.
I think us as just general

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audiences, right?
We've seen that many times.

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Everybody knows Superman.
I think Superman, Spider Man and

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Batman, we get it like we know
their origin story.

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So starting this of three years,
he's already Superman.

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We're getting that.
He's at the lowest point.

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He lost his battle.
That's where the movie starts,

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right?
I liked it because it felt like

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you picked up an issue of a
comic book and you're just

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thrown into it.
So the comic, comic book Ness of

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it and what James Gunn sought
out to do, I think he nailed.

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I think he nailed the feeling of
that because a lot of the action

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fights and just that moment that
you're talking about where

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they're talking and you see that
fight in the background, it just

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looks like a splash page.
So he did a good job with that

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and it does feel different from
Guardians and you still get the

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James gunness of it.
So he carried that over.

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But I think it's a a little bit
more polished.

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James Gunn, yeah.
Yeah, I like that feeling too.

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You know, it, it's it's the Star
Wars thing, right?

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Of we're reading the kind of
prologue of what happened.

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And so we're already put into
all of the action.

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We don't have to figure out how
the character was created, where

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it came from.
Like you said, we know.

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And so just by what were there
like maybe 456 lines, it was

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like, all right, we're good.
We know what we're doing.

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Yeah, at the beginning it
explains.

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Yeah.
And of course, we see Superman

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crash into the ice of
Antarctica, and we see our first

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moment of David Korzwith as
Superman.

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What did you feel about his
betrayal of Superman?

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We've gotten a few and some have
been casted but never got to see

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the light of day.
True.

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I mean, I think what David did
is that he got what James Gunn

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was trying to do with the
Superman, right?

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The thing that I love most that
he he brought to it was really

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this sort of wholesome, almost,
Gee Williker's Superman, which I

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really appreciated, right?
There's that goodness and that

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kindness.
And really, that's at least from

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this film, what Superman is all
about.

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Well, I think that's what
Superman is about.

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And a lot of times when they're
creating these big movies and

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supposed to be blockbuster
moments that they tried to make

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them a little more serious than
they should be or they lose some

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of those core things that make
that character.

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And I think DC prior to this, it
lost Superman.

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It lost to Superman is supposed
to be in what he means.

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And I like that they just
brought it back.

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You know, he didn't really curse
at all in this movie and he did

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I think maybe once, but it was
those G Williker moments where

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it's like, yes, that's Superman,
but it's like the kindness of

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him, him saving everything from
a a squirrel and a dog to a

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little girl and everybody
holding a building up so it

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doesn't crush them on a bridge.
You know, it's like him looking

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after from the smallest to the
biggest things.

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That's what makes Superman
Superman, and I think they

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nailed that.
And especially David.

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David just has this, like I
laughed, I was with him when he

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was serious.
I those conversations, there's

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only one really slow moment and
it's with Lois and Superman when

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she's interviewing him and I
just just hearing him do those

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levels.
He's a fully formed figure and

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not just starting out.
Yeah.

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And an interesting thing that I
thought is that we really got to

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see him become super, even
though it wasn't an origin

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story, right?
Because when we're first meeting

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him, he's injured.
He just lost his fight.

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So we see him in that respect,
and then we see him having this

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kind of intense conversation
with Lois.

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But then as it goes on, we're
building his heart, we're

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building his character.
And then we see those really

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great fight sets, you know,
towards the end of the film.

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And I liked that at first
because I actually thought it

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gave the other characters a
chance to shine, and I thought

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that was really important in
building out this world.

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Yeah, there was a lot of
characters in this movie too.

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I I was really worried when I
saw the Castless and I saw

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everything from like a Green
Lantern to Mr. Terrific.

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I was like, Oh no, like the
first movie for this, this is

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going to be too much.
But I, I think it was handled

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well.
I I think they were able to

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balance everybody, but I like
that the core always came back

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to Lois and Superman.
Absolutely, and I think it also

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was a fun thing for to be three.
What was it 3 dates into their

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relationship, however long that
is.

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And so she knows who he is
already.

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There isn't this big.
Oh gosh, you're Superman.

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It's like she knows what she's
dealing with.

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And I thought that Rachel
Brosnahan did a fantastic job.

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You know, Lois was so headstrong
and intelligent and, you know,

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could fly Mr. Terrific's ship
with without any lessons, which

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I thought is just like.
Yeah, Mr. Terrific thinks that

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the hardest things are simple.
So when he tells somebody it's

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intuitive, it's not very
intuitive.

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It's really funny to see that
happen even with somebody as

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smart as Lois, right.
Rachel Brosnahan I the second I

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heard that they were casted as
Lois, absolutely perfect.

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She she had the look, she had
the wit, she had the the

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brazenness of Lois and also just
the braveness of her and not

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afraid like even though she's
dating this man, right?

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Get back to that interview that
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She's like, Oh no, I'm a
journalist first and foremost,

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and I'm just going to ask you
these hard hitting questions.

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Sorry.
Like, yeah, we can still date

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after this, but this is my job,
right?

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I absolutely amazing.
And I like how much they

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involved her in the movie.
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It started with them seeing this
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love that final moment with them
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floating up.
I was so happy.

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Right.
I, that is like the ultimate

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Superman lowest thing, right, is
the kissing and kind of

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revolving into the air.
I was really happy that we got

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them moving, too.
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And I really did enjoy her
pushing, you know, into Clark

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pushing against Superman and
asking him these really

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important questions.
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he's in this bubble of kindness,
he almost can't understand how

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people can see what he's doing
as challenging, right?

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And so she, in a way, is trying
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you're being perceived.
And even in this world, you

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know, we see a lot of stuff
about social media as well and

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how much it upsets him.
Did you like the the

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introduction of social media and
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this?
It's fine.

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I mean, we're not going to get
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booths because they don't exist
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So I think it's just the natural
evolution of the character that

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you have this billionaire
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of course he's going to use
monkeys as his bots to, to farm

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hatred towards his character
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I, I liked it and I didn't.
It's one of those things where

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it's like when we get some of
that really real world stuff in,

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in our media, it's like God, of
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But I think it was fine.
I, I don't think it was played

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too much.
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I didn't, but I did like the
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I thought it was funny.
We're all just the monkeys

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typing away.
I was kind of curious of what

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your thoughts were about the the
game the Justice Gang.

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The Justice Gang, Oh man, I I
liked them there.

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I mean, I think Mr. Terrific was
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of them.
Nathan Fillion as Guy Gardner

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was fine.
I liked him a lot more than I

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thought I would.
I'm interested to see him in

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Lanterns and then just that
whole Green Lantern side get

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flushed out.
Isabel Merced as hot girl.

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Fantastic, yeah, I thought they
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I think they all kind of got
moments to shine and it wasn't

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too overstuffed with them.
But I think Mr. Terrific kind of

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comes up on top for me at as far
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But I did like we're getting the
seeds planted of the Justice

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League because that's obviously
what it is, or the Justice

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Society, who knows what it's
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definitely not Justice Gang.
But I I liked the the nods to

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that and then seeing the
building that Maxwell Lord is

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obviously paying for.
That's going to be the Hall of

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Justice.
So it's very exciting.

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It's like, oh, this is like the
building blocks to stuff that is

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just going to be great to see
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I thought it was so funny.
Another kind of sight gag was

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them in this Hall of Justice.
Like it's not fully furnished

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yet, like they're still working
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And then Lois leaves, and, like,
her car is just parked right

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outside.
It's like the grandeur of the

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Hall of Justice.
Exactly what happens.

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Like, she's like, OK, be beep.
All right, I got to go.

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I got to go.
What did you think of them?

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I really like them.
You know, I have to admit that

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the the Guy Gardner character
was interesting, right?

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He was kind of giving me almost
like a peacemaker, which who

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makes a cameo and this, but like
that kind of bravado that I know

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best thing.
And it was just kind of the

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styling of him felt almost the
least new IT was.

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It must have been that haircut.
I don't know what it was, but he

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has.
That haircut, unfortunately,

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there's been instances where he
has a fresher cut, but he just

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always has the bowl cut.
He's he is that guy that's like

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the one Green Lantern that is in
your face kind of, you know,

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well, not too great to be around
all the time, but he's a good

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guy at the end of the day.
Yeah, yeah, that's true.

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And you know, you could see that
they're out in the end where

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there's the big battle as his
Green Lantern powers are

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flipping the tanks, they're also
flipping them off, which I

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thought was really funny with
Hawk Girl.

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I'm so happy to see Isabella
Merced, you know, again.

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We're getting so much of her
lately.

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We heart her, we're just all
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And one of the things that I
liked really was like her

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fierceness, you know, and how
she's not afraid to really fight

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back.
And kill and kill political

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leaders.
That should be.

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Yeah, So I thought that was, you
want to let that settle?

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Yeah, I thought that was really
cool.

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I really.
Well, it's so funny, right?

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Because we, you know, they're
doing this huge press tour,

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obviously, and we've watched a
couple of interviews with them

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and they were taking a BuzzFeed
quiz.

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And Rachel Brosnahan, he was
like, oh, they were like, oh,

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who did you want?
You want to be Hawker?

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She's like, I don't want to be
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And I was like, oh, man, what is
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But, you know, I guess she just
kind of, she stays back and

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maybe doesn't fight for justice
as often as maybe Lois Lane

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would like her to.
She does.

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They just, I think what I like
that they showed was that even

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though this Justice gang has
different characters, they're

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not all Superman.
Like, they're all going to not

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not kill, right.
And I think the that particular

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scene with Hot Girl, he's like,
you're not going to kill me.

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She's like, I'm not Superman.
You don't know.

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Bye.
Bye.

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Yeah.
And I really like that because I

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think it does give us some
different varyings of what each

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character means to be here and
what their moral code is.

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Superman shouldn't kill.
I think that's just kind of been

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a thing, right?
And it's like we hold the the

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highest members up to the
highest level, but it's like,

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hot girl, yeah, go, go do it
felt right.

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It's so silly.
A little slip through the

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fingers.
And as far as Mr. Terrific is

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concerned, I really loved that
he had a big part in this entire

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thing.
His technology, really, if it

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wasn't for his technology, they
wouldn't have been able to do

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much of anything at all.
Yeah, I think they used him

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really well.
I was so excited that this

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character was going to be in
something because they're just

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so interesting and they're so
cool.

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And Eddie Gothiggi, so good.
I am glad that he finally got

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justice as a good comic book
character because when he was in

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X-Men First Class, he played
Darwin.

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Darwin is a character that has
reactive evolution, meaning he

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cannot die.
He can't die.

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They killed him in that movie in
the dumbest way possible and he

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even agrees that it was like
really bad.

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So I'm glad he has redemption in
the comic book world.

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I absolutely think he does.
And you know, whatever this kind

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of DC Universe becomes, I think
Mr. Terrific is going to be a

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solid.
Yeah, what did you think about

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Nicholas Holt as Lex Luthor?
Well, I think Nicholas Halt is

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less Luther.
I mean, he really did it right.

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He he played the part really
well.

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That is the one character,
though, that I almost felt like

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I needed a little back story on.
So yes, because yes, I know he

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is Superman's adversary, but my
whole thing, I'm going why?

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Why not?
But why?

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He, he, I think he says it
perfectly and towards the end of

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the climax and like he's
admitting he's like, I know my

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ego is so big.
I know these things about

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myself.
I'm going to do those things

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because I know who I am.
Like this is like, that's

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something I can't change about
myself.

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And he, he sees Superman as the
next step of evolution that they

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will never be able to get to so
that he is better than the human

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race.
And Lex Luthor cannot deal with

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it as far as this is what this
interpretation of that

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characters is talking about.
And that's just who he is.

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He, his ego is so conflated and
so huge that he can't stand

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somebody being the perfect
being.

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How dare, how dare somebody the
perfect being.

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And that's Lex's deal.
He just can't.

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He can't understand why somebody
is that good when he has all the

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resources and he can help
everybody.

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But yet Superman is the one
that's praised and lauded

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around, right?
All right, I appreciate.

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Thank you for explaining that to
me.

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But I was just for a lot of it,
I was going like what what is

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the deal?
Like what is the deal?

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And then he.
Just hates him man.

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He's obsessed with him.
He's like and, and I love that

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he Superman says that to him.
He's like, your obsession with

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me is just.
Too much I mean that's that's

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LAX like that's that sums him up
man, I love it.

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I love it because the.
Hair.

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The hair.
You're jealous.

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Well, he's jealous of the hair,
Yeah.

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You would know, no, you can
relate.

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I was outright attacked on this
podcast.

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You all just heard it or saw it.
Facts are facts, Lois Lane.

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What did you think of Nicholas?
I know him, so I call him

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Nicholas.
Wow first name basis.

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I thought he was good.
I I do think he's one of the

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best Lex movie movie Lexus.
I think that there is not

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disparaging the classics.
I think they're great, but I

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just think he kind of brought
multiple levels to this

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character, levels that I've
wanted to see like, oh, he could

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get away with things.
Oh, he it it would make sense on

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how he could become president,
right, But also be the villain

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to Superman.
Do these all these like kind of

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in the shadows, working things
and creating these conflicts to

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get his way.
I really, really liked I think

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that.
And again, that's writing and

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that's plot and that's what they
did.

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But I think he delivered those
so well.

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In particular, I think the one
that scared me in the most is

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when they're in that prison and
he does like the the Russian

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roulette with the guy and he's
like, oh, I didn't think that

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would end so quickly.
I was like Yikes this guy is

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messed.
Up.

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Yeah, he has.
No, he doesn't really have

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regret in anything.
He's just willing to do whatever

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he has to do to get his way.
Yeah.

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He has the resources and money
and he can.

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It's going to be interesting to
see what happens next.

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Like he's obviously going to get
out of Belle Reeves, we know

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that, but how and when is going
to be very interesting to see

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that.
Yeah, I think, you know, as a

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whole, this character of Lex
Luthor, one of the things that I

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remember way, way, way back when
we covered The Mandalorian

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season 2, we we would have
conversations about like, OK,

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but how do you become a
stormtrooper?

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Like, why do you, why do you
want to be a stormtrooper?

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And we see in this that Lex has
this like, very eager, very

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loyal following in a number of
different ways.

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And, you know, I think the paint
the picture that it's painting

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that if someone has enough
resources and some bit of

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charisma, people are willing to
follow them, right?

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And so there was one point you
and I had kind of leaned over to

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each other when we're looking at
the gate in the desert.

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And all those people wearing
their Hawaiian shirts and I had

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said something like they're like
a cult.

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And then later on they are
described as his cult.

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And so it really does have that
cult like following.

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Where are these people who are
just like, blindly following

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this person because they've fed
into whatever megalomania they

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have about them?
Yeah, he has the resources and

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he can let them kind of explore
things that maybe other jobs

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won't let them, you know?
So why not?

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I'll wear that Hawaiian shirt if
I want to fiddle with pocket

404
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,280
dimensions and.
You know, I mean, I guess it is

405
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,080
exciting.
So with any good villain and his

406
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,800
hench men, there's always lots
of fights, which is duh.

407
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,000
And you know, one of the things
that was like kind of crazy was

408
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:47,880
that again with his obsession,
Lex has studied Superman so much

409
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,000
that he's coded every single one
of his moves.

410
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,160
And so those fight scenes are
really interesting, right?

411
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:58,960
He's kind of talking to, I mean,
spoiler alert, super clone

412
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,760
Ultraman.
Ultraman Cloner, man.

413
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,520
Yeah, yeah.
But the the interesting thing,

414
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,800
like kind of like what I was
saying earlier was that I felt

415
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,960
like there the action Superman's
action sequences weren't very

416
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,360
action Y in the beginning.
It was a lot of him just like

417
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,000
saving squirrels, which save the
squirrels and, you know,

418
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,560
stopping buildings from falling
on people.

419
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:25,560
But like he wasn't doing a lot
of the destroying or or beating

420
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,040
up.
Well, I don't think he should be

421
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,360
destroying I I well, and I the
only reason why I say that is

422
00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:32,640
because I do think there were
some digs at the Man of Steel a

423
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,440
little bit because one of the
big critiques of the Man of

424
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,840
Steel was the final fart fart.
The final fight with General Zod

425
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,560
and Superman.
They'd like destroyed Metropolis

426
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,400
and everybody was like, oh,
geez, like in a Superman film.

427
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,280
It's like how many people died
in that?

428
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,960
A lot.
And granted, it did play into

429
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,320
future movies, but they had kind
of said something.

430
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,600
And one of the things that
Superman kept doing in a lot of

431
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,160
these fights was trying to save
people and lessen the damage,

432
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,560
which I appreciate.
And I think that a hero at the

433
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,840
caliber that Superman is has to
be wary of those types of

434
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,000
things.
And so for him to punch and

435
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,920
fight, he has to have enemies
that he can punch and fight.

436
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,800
So having the Engineer and
having Ultraman, I think was a

437
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:18,440
good choice because he can do
things physically that he might

438
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,720
not be able to do with like
regular robbers, right?

439
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,680
The action sequences were
interesting though, because I

440
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,400
felt like they were too close
up.

441
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:31,200
Like it was a very interesting
way to shoot the action.

442
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,800
I almost wanted them to pull
back a little bit sometimes

443
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,480
because almost every action
sequence was like right close

444
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,520
up.
And I think if I could be wrong,

445
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,840
but I'm pretty sure the person
that did the Flash also did this

446
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,280
one and it made sense.
And my head was like 01 of the

447
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,320
things I didn't like about the
Flash was that.

448
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,320
And unfortunately that almost
carried over in this.

449
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,640
That's that.
That's like my biggest thing

450
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,800
with the fights.
I maybe we'll get more

451
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,280
superhuman fights later on, but
I think it was a good

452
00:22:59,280 --> 00:22:59,960
introduction.
Not.

453
00:23:00,120 --> 00:23:01,920
Enough hot dogs.
No.

454
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,680
There was a baby.
So there's also that similarity.

455
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,280
And in that fight scene, I
completely agree.

456
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:09,640
I was.
So they're in the pocket

457
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,520
universe and Superman is inside.
I don't know what it was some

458
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,600
sort of, I don't know, Photon
river or something like that.

459
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,840
And like I didn't really know
what was going on.

460
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,360
Like he was kind of going down
the river or into the black hole

461
00:23:21,360 --> 00:23:23,240
and then out of the black hole.
And then at some point he turned

462
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,400
around in the black hole.
So that being all super close

463
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,360
up, I felt like things got lost
in in translation there.

464
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,320
But I mean, we did get to see
the best boy.

465
00:23:34,120 --> 00:23:36,240
No Crypto.
Crypto yeah, his action

466
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,640
sequences were perfect and.
Follows.

467
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:42,760
Crypto the best devil shit of a
dog.

468
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,040
I'd die for that dog.
I hate him.

469
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,320
You know, the things that this
movie has taught me is that

470
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,720
humans can be kind and they can
be loving and that we should

471
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,280
treat animals with respect and
love.

472
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,360
OK.
Because Superman has shown me

473
00:23:58,360 --> 00:24:02,360
all those things and crypto.
Even though he might think T

474
00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:05,240
spheres are just playthings,
he's a good boy.

475
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,760
Yeah, he's great.
I love the addition of crypto in

476
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,240
this movie.
I think the changing of him was

477
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,600
fun, him being kind of
rambunctious and untrained to

478
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:18,280
make sense because he's Cara,
he's super girls dog and she's

479
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,320
very much on a Bender right now.
So I don't think she trained

480
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,960
him, but I thought that it was
great.

481
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,160
And also just the visual, like
they've never included crypto.

482
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:31,040
I was going to say super dog
crypto really in anything

483
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,440
because, you know, fear of it
being too goofy and not really

484
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,080
working.
I think it worked perfectly

485
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,360
fine.
But you know, maybe it just took

486
00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:42,440
a guy like James Gunn to come
around and just be like, like, I

487
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:43,280
can do it.
It's fine.

488
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,080
A dog?
No problem.

489
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,520
I made you guys feel for a
raccoon you.

490
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,840
Just have to go into it with
confidence and also just not be

491
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,480
afraid.
And I think that's exactly what

492
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,160
he did.
I think crypto was a really

493
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,400
great addition to this and I
think it added to that really

494
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:04,000
that comicy feeling of this
movie, you know, just really the

495
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,480
the fun that can be had.
And, and, and I again, I really,

496
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,320
really enjoy that.
I really loved that in this

497
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:10,760
movie.
I don't know, I can't explain

498
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,800
it.
Like I felt like Superman's

499
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,440
Blues were Blues.
His Reds were red, right?

500
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,520
They weren't dark and
mysterious.

501
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,920
He's a good guy, right?
He's got one single curl that

502
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,480
hangs from his head.
I mean, he is.

503
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,800
He is also the goodest guy.
It was actually really nice,

504
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,560
too, that we, I love Clark and I
love that they, you know, did

505
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,880
little Easter eggs about his
hypno glasses and stuff.

506
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,080
That's wild that we ever got
that in film.

507
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:39,480
But we didn't really see a lot
of Clark, which I feel like some

508
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,680
of the earlier adaptations, they
always try to balance it.

509
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,200
And, you know, yeah, we need the
Clark stuff.

510
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,880
But I think the Clark stuff
worked so well when we were with

511
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:52,080
Mom, Pop Kent and Lois.
And I think we didn't need more.

512
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,920
I think it showed us this.
He can be Clark, but Clark is

513
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,480
just as much a part of him as
Superman is, and it's hard to

514
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,640
tell the difference sometimes.
And I think that's the good sign

515
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:07,000
of understanding that character.
But we got so much Superman in

516
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:07,800
this.
It just felt.

517
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,040
It felt right.
It felt right.

518
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,880
Yeah, I, you know, one thing I
was thinking about, I was like,

519
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,360
man, they must think he is some
great field reporter because he

520
00:26:16,360 --> 00:26:19,120
is never in that office.
He's just gone.

521
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,240
Nope.
World is ending.

522
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,480
Gone.
I like that Lois also was like,

523
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,720
even though she knew who he was
at the beginning, I was like,

524
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,240
oh, no, we're going to have to.
She's going to have to find out.

525
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,760
I was like, rolling my eyes, but
she knew.

526
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,560
And she was almost checking him
when she was saying when he

527
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:35,840
came.
And she was like, oh, you always

528
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,200
get these exclusive interviews
with Superman.

529
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,480
Weird.
It's like, yeah dude, chill out.

530
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,600
Yeah, he's like, that's what he
told me.

531
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:47,920
Yeah, very good.
Yeah, I just, I'm, I'm so

532
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,120
excited.
I think the DCU looks bright.

533
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,960
I'm very interested to see where
it goes from here.

534
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,480
The only thing that does worry
me, and I would love to be

535
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,000
proved wrong, is that like the
next stuff that's coming is

536
00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:04,600
interesting because it's not,
you would think like it's

537
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,480
starting with Superman and we're
going to get like, you know,

538
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,640
another bigger here or like
maybe Mr. Terrific, it's a movie

539
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,000
or whatever.
But like we're getting the

540
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,000
lanterns, which is fine.
It's going to be fun, but it's

541
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,440
ATV show I'm trying to piece
together, like why are we going

542
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,440
from here to here?
But I don't know.

543
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,160
I'll trust the process.
Yeah, it it is interesting,

544
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,680
right?
You would think that this, this

545
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,400
film would be the springboard
for these characters to move on.

546
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:27,680
But we're going to other
characters.

547
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:32,360
Or even like bigger ones, you
know, like Aquaman, Batman,

548
00:27:32,360 --> 00:27:35,680
Wonder Woman, Flash, like I
guess those are just going to be

549
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,600
down the line, right?
And also, do they exist already?

550
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,400
But when I get when I hear TV
series, I get nervous.

551
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,440
I get a little nervous.
All right, final thoughts.

552
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,880
Final thoughts, just I haven't
said this in a while.

553
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:55,240
What a romp I.
Haven't said it in a while. 3

554
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,680
episodes ago.
Not true, not true.

555
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,960
We were talking about The Last
of Us, not a romp, not a romp,

556
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,360
just a lot of fun.
And I felt like this, like this

557
00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:07,720
is going to sound so cheesy, but
like, this is for the whole

558
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,760
family, right?
This isn't just for dad who

559
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,120
collected superhero comics when
he was a kid.

560
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,160
This isn't just for kids.
And it's goofy.

561
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,520
Like this felt like there was
something in it for everyone and

562
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,320
I really like that.
Yeah, I agree.

563
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,760
I think it's a fantastic start
to this new endeavour.

564
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,440
I hope it takes off and I hope
we can get more of this because

565
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,120
I love these characters just as
much as I love the MCU.

566
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,600
I just, I'm excited for the
variety.

567
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:39,040
I'm excited for the difference
difference of them and seeing

568
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:43,080
how it all connects.
But yeah, I, I thought fantastic

569
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,280
cast, visually great man.
What mortgage you want?

570
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,720
Super fun Superman.
Super fun.

571
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,720
Let.
Us know what you thought of

572
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:57,800
Superman and you know, not to
like take it away from DC, but

573
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:02,040
the MCU, the next thing we're
going to be doing is Fantastic

574
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,000
Four and very excited for that
one.

575
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,160
I'm just letting you know what's
coming up.

576
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,040
It's fantastic.
Four.

577
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:15,200
Oh.
Noah has been singing Fantastic

578
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,080
Four like non-stop for no reason
always.

579
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,120
It is my it's just like the
vocal stem that is just

580
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,000
constantly in my head.
And I just found out that the

581
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,880
Herbie popcorn bucket, when you
put push the button, it sings

582
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,040
the Fantastic Four theme song.
And you know what?

583
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,880
I'm getting that Herbie bucket
so I don't have to sing it, but

584
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,680
Herbie can sing it.
We're all really excited.

585
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:37,440
Goodbye.