The Last of Us Season 2 Episode 4 Review | HBO

0:00 Don't like looking around. I really like the vibe of this place. I like the boxes, I like the ammo, and I definitely like the intestinal chandeliers. A lot to offer here, You guys are doing a great job. Hi everyone, welcome to the design Show. I'm Derek. That's Noah. Just kidding, this is a bite up and we're talking about The Last of Us Season 2 Episode 4. Oh, it's 4/4. I don't know why I skipped ahead an Episode I. Just thought you were waving magically. No, I was going to do that, but whatever. Ignore a finger. Oh, we're in Seattle.

0:40 Fully. Ignore a finger. Ignore a finger that I've never said that to him before. This is this is rated RI, think NC 17. But somewhere in Seattle for the first time, First full day in Seattle. We have a lot to talk about before we get into it. As always, make sure you're subscribed. Following. You can see our pretty faces on Spotify or YouTube, whichever 1 you prefer. Or if you just want to listen to our sultry voices, talk about fingers and decor. Keep on doing what you're doing. I have a very sultry voice. OK, yeah, spoilers ahead. We OK?

1:20 I have officially I'm going to try to save game spoilers for the end. If it's very if I just can't, if I can't, if I just got to get it out, I will double spoil it, right? I will put sirens. I will put stuff on the screen. You will know another spoiler for the game is coming, but general blanket spoiler for the show of The Last of Us. I think that was very fair, very fair. Spoilers OK. Let us officially take a bite of The Last of Us Season 2 Episode 4, Day One, written by Neil Druckman and directed by Kate Herron. A new enemy peers in appears in the form of Isaac, the leader of the WLF. Seattle leaves Elie and Dina with a less than positive first impression as they realize they have walked into the middle of a war. Infected are woken, secrets are shared, and love is made. Woke Wow.

2:13 That's right. Woke Seattle. They have rainbows. That's the truth. That's the truth. All right, So what did you think? Oh, off the top of my noodle. I feel like it was a better episode than last week. I still like last week. I'm liking the progression we're getting. This episode very much was like, there are secrets that both of our main characters at the moment have, and it was a way for them to finally get them off of their chests in whatever way. I like that a lot, and I like that we're still getting the same beats of their relationship from the game, just kind of in a different way. Like it's just showing it and the things that are happening are just happening differently, but they're at the same point, I would say, in the game. So that does make me very happy and we got to see one of my favorite favorite like scenes from the entire game series in this episode.

3:08 So I'm, I'm, I'm quite happy with what we got all. Right, All right. Yeah. I think that this episode really did a lot to further our plot along. We are so solidly with Ellie and Dina now that I feel like this is season 2, you know, and really the, the feeling of it being like the game. I, I mean, I've watched you play the game. Just the scenes of them chatting when they're walk, when they're on shimmer. It just feels so much like you're watching a live action version of the game at this point. And I think, you know, we have a brand new enemy here. And so that leads to a lot of nervous feelings going forward. Yeah, I think a good place to start for this episode is maybe to talk about Isaac, just because there's a lot of Isaac in this episode that I don't think I was expecting this. They do a really good job with dialogue in literal dialogue, and also just how a conversation plays out with the camera. When we see Isaac in the past for the first time, they purposely don't show him, which I really like. So we get to see inside this federal truck, right? And there's Josh Peck, of all people. Hi, obviously seems like the the popular guy in this group or whatever.

4:19 And then we have the the green person that's just trying to fit along and kind of just be with the banter. And when it finally reveals Isaac in that I was like, oh, that was excellent story to telling one hiding him because people fans of the game know who he is, but also just Jeffrey Wright just seeing him show up in another HBO show. But we can. We love to see him. But just that deafening silence whenever they asked, like, what voter means? Like, why do we call him voter? And then Jeffrey Wright telling him it's because we took away their right to vote. Chilling, chilling stuff. Yeah, it's interesting. As far as this character of Isaac, well, first of all, like you said, I mean, Jeffrey Wright is just an incredible actor. He can kind of do anything.

5:00 And so to have him appear in this is really exciting. He brings such a solidity to this character and immediately commands the attention of everyone, both the cast and the viewer of the show. He just has such presence on screen and I think the moment you hear his voice, you are listening to him. And So what he does, that's really interesting, I think really shows who this character is going to become of he's sitting with these fellow Federal soldiers, but he immediately is kind of pushing back at the banter, pushing back at what they're saying. And so I think that really sets up who this character is. And I mean, yeah, I think he does push back, but he also it also feels like he is already very sure and what he's about to do. And so he's just over it, right?

5:47 This episode does a good job and also worries me. There's there's two things that are happening in this episode that like I like, but also are worrying is we see, we see Isaac, the whole point of this flashback is to show Isaac leaving Phedra because he's fed up with Phedra and to join the wolves, right? And then then later lead the wolves and everything. But so he he left that because he felt like Phedra was being oppressive to the people, but now and being violent and everything to the people. And now we see the wolves doing the same thing to what they call the Seraphytes, the Scars, but also the Seraphytes are doing the same thing to them. So as we've talked about in this, this journey now for season 2 is very much about the cycle of violence. We have Abby and Ellie.

6:34 Joel's cycle of violence led to his ultimate demise. But being in this, so we're getting like a secondary cycle of violence almost and had it only worries me that like, is it going to be played out a little too much because we're seeing the same cycle happen And I don't like I want them to whenever they get to the Abbey stuff in the alley, stuff forward to feel a little fresher, more gut punchy then like, OK, we've been kind of like seeing this. So that that does worry me. I have high hopes. It's a theme, but like we're sitting with it in the show. So when we have like a whole nother season that's planned. So how long is this going to be stretched out? Yes, we as humans are very flawed and continue to do the same things over and over again. Well, it's all about tribalism, right? Yeah, that's what this entire like that's the infected aren't the worst thing.

7:23 It's the tribalism that humans do. And, you know, there's part of me that thinks about this is just one city, right? So it's like things like this could be playing out all over the country. And so instead of coming together in times of scarcity, of course we're going to be fighting and pushing our own beliefs on to other groups of people. But you know, I do wonder, you know, in the fact that this is going to be, there is another season, there is going to be a season 3 and yet we only have the two games to pull from. It does seem like they are going to need to flesh out some of these things a little more. So, you know, having this introduction of this Hanrahan character who is played by Ilana Yubach, who if you don't know, it's just like an incredible actor. Oh my gosh. Like, I've loved Ilana Yubach since she was on Beekman's World, which was like ages and ages and ages ago.

8:08 But and she's just done stellar work throughout her whole career, popping up all over the place. But, you know, I feel like we're going to have to dig into that, right? So it feels like he's joining forces with this person. But then when we meet him sort of in the present timeline, he's the leader. What happened to Hanrahan? Is she gone? You know, did he kill her? Did he double cross her? Like he double crossed the federal agents? So, you know, I just think that this kind of secondary cycle of violence is really to pad the season to fulfill, you know, extra plot points. Yeah, yeah. I mean, we, we have gotten, I would say like the first couple episodes, we've gotten like the whole first episode and then like really the episode after Joel's death, like those don't exist in the games. So as long as they keep doing that, we'll be fine. Just see these similar themes that are going on because we also, we got it in the town hall as well. We got, you know, just seeing how, like, communities and things are structured around what it means to go after justice, what it means to get revenge and everything. So it's like, I don't know, it just seemed a little heavy-handed on that.

9:12 So I wish we would just have a little more like, I don't know, like, let's just see how it plays out instead of being like, guys, by the way, like we're on this path of revenge. Yeah. We all want to freaking get justice for Pietro Pascal not being in the show. Totally. Yeah, I mean it. Maybe it's just to show how evil and despicable he is, right? Yeah, yeah. But we see it on both sides, right? And I think this episode did a good job of showing Isaac being absolutely terrifying when we finally see who he's talking to in that kitchen and it's a Seraphight member, just completely nude, obviously been tortured and beat up. And the conversations that they have is is showing that, right? They say the same exact things to each other. They one says you kill kids, one says you harm kids. It's the same thing, but they're saying it to each other on just different sides of the fence.

10:03 And it, I think it is frustrating for us as, as as a viewer, it's just being like, stop it. Like just get along. I know, but it it almost seems like we want that, but Dang, that's not reality, is it? And so it's just this horrible conversation. You're right again, it's another cycle. It's saying the same thing back and forth. I guess the question is, how long are we going to have to sit in all this? Like, are we going to have to keep watching this back and forth and back and forth between the wolves and the Seraphytes and then just just throw Ellie and Dina in there just for fun? Yes, yeah.

10:44 I mean, well, because this is, we're seeing what Ellie and Dina are walking into. They have their own mission. Abby set out on her own mission, but there's communities and there is unfortunately also just war happening between these two. And that's what they're walking into, yeah. I think that was a question I had at the beginning of the season is like, you know, the first season really felt geared towards bringing this young person who is immune to this to find a cure. But now that seems like that's not an option anymore. So what is this world? Guess it's just. Well, now we're seeing strife, right? But I, I think now we're seeing the world and I think what they did originally in the game and in the show, and it was just the story in general, what the beautiful thing that they did was that they showed the beginning of it and they showed you, oh, there's hope, like somebody's immune. And then when we don't get to get that, then what does this story hold?

11:37 That's like, oh, now we actually get to know about the world, the greater world, because we didn't really get to see too much of it in the first game and in the first season. So now that we're seeing it, it's, it sucks, no. Yeah, but incredibly brutal. But I really liked the scene in this kitchen. You know, we have Isaac's character talking about the the pans that he wanted, but you know, he finally got them just and not the way he probably wanted. But then to see the Seraphight person just completely be overly like, Nope, I'm ride or die with my cause and with the prophet and everything that they say, like you were not going to be able to get this out of me. You can burn me. And then when he turned around, he already had his hand up. I was like, oh, shit, yeah, OK.

12:20 Like, that was badass. It was hard as fuck, but it was awesome. Yeah, and and that scene, it really feels like you're more on the Seraphytes side, right? And and kind of they seem like they have kind of taken a step back from what's normal in society in the sense of like they're just using bows and bows and arrows and simple things like that. Whereas like this is just AWLF is just a military. Yeah, I'm excited for you to see more of these two groups. I I will not talk about them outside of what we see in the show because I think it's a disservice to even tell you because you haven't seen it. I'm not going to spoil it for you and I'm not going to spoil it for you, but I like how they're interpreting these characters on TV and what we're seeing.

13:07 But Speaking of, I guess the threats, you're right. So we have Isaac we saw in the past in the present. I love when the show does that, when it shows like kind of rewinds a little bit to then show you how it is in the present or like what led to that moment. I think they do a very strong past and present in this series. But so we're in Seattle, right? And we get the title card, Seattle day one, which is very much it's literally from the game. Like you go into Seattle, it's Seattle day one and every day it shows that title card. So I'm curious if in the next couple episodes if it's going to say day 2, day three. So what do you think about Seattle and how how it looks and how it feels and the dangers that they walk into? Yeah, well, Seattle is a mess for sure. And I think that, I mean, that's obviously an understatement. And one of the interesting things is that these two groups are existing in this city but are on polar opposite ends of everything.

14:01 And, you know, when Ellie and Dina are kind of running through the city, it, it's so interesting to me that WLF has this whole place mapped out, right? They know where each crack and crevice leads to. And while it looks so lush and green and beautiful on the outside, it seems like really on the inside it's a hell hole and a trap. Yeah, I liked there's specific moments in this episode that are pulled verbatim from the game when they go and see that tank and the whole conversation with the astronauts and everything and seeing the pride flags and all of that. That's literally from the game. And I love that they kept the small little moments in there because those in between moments in the game of those action sequences or when you learn more about those characters, when you actually get to feel for those characters and that playing, that's playing the same, I guess role and specific need in the show as well. And so we get to see like, oh, when did Ellie learn about space?

14:58 Like when did she learn about that? Maybe we'll find out, but it's showing that like, they are very much invested in each other and learning about it. You can kind of see the scars, not just from the bombing from when the infection started, but just with the wolves and Federer. And then we got to see the scars and wolves. So it's like there's a lot, a lot of history here. And again, these girls are just, they're not, they're in over their heads, I think. And it's only going to get worse from here. I mean, they're two people, right? And they're young, and although they have spirit, that can only get you so far. And I really am worried for them here. But along the lines of what you were saying about kind of like when they learned about certain things, I was actually surprised that they didn't realize what the rainbow flags were for. Especially when you have Seth, you know, using hate language, you would wish that there was like, someone teaching them about pride and about coming together. But I guess in the apocalypse you can only focus on so much. Yeah, this, this series has an interesting relationship with queerness.

16:05 You know, in the first season we got the Bill and Frank episode. We got to see these two men that are very much men and probably weren't able to show who they really loved or act on that. And they found each other and we're able to live this long, beautiful life. And then we also find out in this episode that like Dina had talked to her mother, I believe she said, and she's like, I like girls and boys. And her mother was very much like you like boys. So it's very much like her bisexuality was being erased from her and that's what she saw. And we have Seth, we have bigotry and we have homophobia in here. But like, there's no gay person like having pride anywhere. That's what I'm saying. Like there's no pride month in like in Jackson, there's.

16:48 Got to be an LGBT center at least. Something. Yeah. So it is sad in thinking that maybe they just haven't had time. Maybe, like, there is hardly any queer people. It's nice that these two queer people have found each other. But you know, what does that say? Maybe a society isn't at the moment of like, let's celebrate things yet or let's talk about these things. Who knows what else? They're not being told. But I don't know. It is. It is kind of sad when they're like, oh, oh, there goes happy rainbow town. Like now we're in the shed. Like, no, that's for you. You should know about that. Yeah. But I mean, as we've been saying, looking at society as a whole, what what The Last of Us is showing us is that we just go down to primal nonsense. Yeah, and Speaking of both of them having each other, both of them have secrets that they're keeping from each other. That thing that I was talking about, my favorite scene from the entire series, there's two, and they both just happen to have a guitar in them.

17:47 We still haven't seen one of them, but Ellie playing take on me for Dina pulled directly from the game. I love that we got to sit with this moment. We got to hear Bella Ramsey sing the entire song. I think it was just absolutely beautiful. I would be lying if I didn't say I was teary and I was on the verge of crying just because it's just so beautiful that you have, again, all this terribleness. But then we're sitting with these two characters and Oh my God. Like Dina, the Izzy's acting in this particular scene is telling so much without literally saying anything. We know after watching it, she had the secret, but also we can see that this is the moment that she's like, this is my person, like this is the person I want to be with. But she's also able to just be in this moment, you know, and and so is Ellie.

18:39 Ellie's being able to express herself in this way that she's very visibly not just going into the square in Jackson and playing with the guitar. So like, how often is she playing this? And then, sorry, layer on the cake, right? This is just such a beautiful way to remind us and have a memory of Joel in this. And she even asked, did Joel teach you that? And he's like, yeah, yeah, it's he's a pretty good teacher. It's just, oh, it's there's so much, there's so many layers and it's so emotional. And I think they just nailed it in the scene. It honestly looked a much more beautiful in the show than it did in the game. And they both look great. The flowers just just amazing. Yeah, it's a it's it's an absolutely beautiful scene.

19:19 And I think that it allows us all to kind of collectively take a breath and enjoy the relationship before Mayhem begins. And so having this moment of connection between the two of them where they've kind of been go, go, go the entire time, allowing them to kind of just sit in this moment and be with each other. And like you said, Izzy's acting, I thought in this entire episode was really phenomenal. She is just so emotional. And with just the way she is able to communicate those emotions sets with her with just with her eyes, you know, there's such power in that. And the scene is just really gorgeous. And I love that, you know, Bella is truly playing the guitar and singing and really bringing just that vulnerability to this moment, Especially for Ellie, who is so guarded and so forceful.

20:10 It's it's really a nice scene. And also just to see like a guitar that was shielded from the bombing and from the elements and but still perfectly preserved just for her in this moment is I hope she goes back for it. I I will say my 1 hiccup for this episode was that there were way too many guitars still in that place. They're all. Shit though, what about the looting? You know what I mean? People would have grabbed all that stuff in the end. Absolutely. I would have bought just the one kind of in the in the case still, but you know, that's just a minor Derek thing that I see. I don't care. We got the scene because of it, so.

20:51 No, the one guitar could have still been there. It was just all the other guitars were. Yeah, it's fine. All right. So kind of going to the end of this episode, we get a they did really did not lie about there's just more infected in this season. Even though we're not getting them, I think a lot throughout these episodes, we're getting a lot of them in like big sequences. So this whole scene where they're running from the wolves, we get to see, as you mentioned at the top of this episode, the intestinal chandelier of these wolf people that the Seraphites have put up there. This entire episode did such a good job of like, oh, what did Dina see in the pharmacy that like we didn't get to see? So there's just this like mystery building. And then on top of that, this tension just builds and builds and builds of them fighting these both people getting out and trying to escape from them, hiding constantly for a good chunk of this episode.

21:49 And then a swarm of infected going through the train that sideways on top of it in through it, through the windows. It's just, it's so good. It's so freaking fantastic that they were able to just build this massive set piece for this, Yeah. These infected roots that are now running through the country are really just messing things up for everyone. And so it's almost like this carelessness of just moving through your environment, they're not even aware of it. And that's what happened in Jackson, and now that's what's happening here in Seattle. And so to see the wolf's kind of set this off. I did feel happy that, you know, Dina and and Ellie had the upper hand in this moment. You know, where they stopped, They listened. And you know, Dina's counting, but it goes up from more than just the five on her hand.

22:41 This is all I have. Yeah, she's like, that's it. And so this scene, it's like I felt like I needed this scene, especially between last episode and this episode. It's like while I'm here for the human drama, at the end of it, you know, it's a zombie story in a way, right? So I want the infected. I want that mindless hunger. That's where it gets scary. And that tension of them going through the cars of the train. I was on the edge of my seat and I really loved it. I loved feeling that again. Yeah, they did a really good job of just building and building and building on top of that. Even just with, you know, you think they escaped the infected and then it's like the wolves are there or or vice versa. And it's just it's just such a good showcase of again, what the show has to offer.

23:25 I love that shot of when Ellie closes the car door and the clicker is right there. Just just great. Just fantastic work all around for everybody. And then we get to kind of the ending of this episode and Ellie gets bit. She will literally, you know, sacrifice her arm for Dina. That turnstile scene that I did not like that. I, I don't like, I don't like going to those turnstiles outside of the apocalypse. I always think that, you know, in the city where you see that, like, there's that bar that will stop it from going the other way. I'm like, I'm going to die. Like, there's no way I would possibly die. But like, if I don't get out of this, somebody's just going to keep pushing me. Oh. Yeah, you never know. You get turned into spaghetti.

24:06 During rush hour. Oh yeah, it's brutal. You got to be quick. Yeah, you got to be quick. Yeah. So seeing Dina, like, not being able to push it in that that runner coming right up to her. And then Ellie put in her arm, which good job, Ellie was just fantastic. And then I'm getting smushed. That's me. That's me. Smooshed. Yeah, smooshed. But then we have this, like, really heightened moment of Dina having to do the thing, the worst thing that I think she would ever have to do in this moment, right? Like, oh, I joked about shooting you in the face, but now I am actually going to have to do this. Like I'm pregnant one. I'm way far away from home and now I have to kill the person that I love.

24:49 So having that parallel, if having such a beautiful moment would take on me to then having to shoot her in the face is just awful. But I liked that they kind of peppered in some humor with it with her waking up going like with the water. I'm like, really no sudden movements, but they both lay it out there, right? Ellie finally can tell her that she's immune. Dina finally says that she's pregnant. And then they bump. They've they finally get to bump. What did you think about like this kind of high tension then ending in them having sex? I mean, I love the poetry of it, of this high tension of them running away, almost dying, Dina thinking she's losing her only ally in this moment to then being OK.

25:37 All the secrets are out. I did not see Dina being pregnant coming at all. That completely got me. I was like, you know, sexually active. What's happening? What else are they going to do? True, not learn about pride, but I I I like this crescendo moment of them finally being able to release all the tension drop, you know, all of the can I finish drop all these pretenses that they've had up and just finally just lay it all out there. Yeah, it all sounded very sexual, but I'm all made sense. It's called metaphors.

26:23 No, but I, I, I appreciated that, but I just was like so confused with like how it kind of became insta love in a way. And they're like, well, we're getting married and we're raising the baby together and that's just the end of the story. Like that felt a little fast to me. Well. Yeah, You know how I had mentioned I think in the last episode, I'm like, oh, by this moment, they're kind of like already a thing. They've already bumped, which is why I said that again, they they go to the library in the the episode or the part where Joel does die, it's Dina and Ellie that are traveling instead of Jesse and they go to the library and then that's where they hook up, right? And they kind of become a thing there.

27:04 So they're at the same point now, but it's like it was just shifted around a little differently. I don't know if it was as effective. Again, I liked it. I'm fully invested in their relationship. I think they both have done a great job of carrying this show so far. It was just a little jarring with like how high tension it was just building and building. And I'm not too sure like personally, them hooking up was like the release of that tension that I was expecting or wanted. But then again, I don't know where they could have went because what happened in the last episode, it almost ends the same way of just both of them staring off into the distance, which I'm like, OK, it's like it's ending the same way the last one did.

27:50 So I guess what I'm saying is like, where are the emotional, I guess, consequences of like, the stuff that happened in the episode leading up to that moment? I get that they get to release that, but I don't know, it's like, OK, now they're at the same place. They just, like, love each other openly. Yeah. Does that make sense? Like, I'm. I don't hate it. I'm just more of like, OK, like, sure. But was that OK? I guess? Where else would they put? It I just think we needed more time. They needed more time, you know, not even necessarily the the sex, having sex with each other, but just like how we told each other our secrets, we had sex and that means we're in love and spending the rest of our lives together. Well, I think they were already like that. They were already ride and die obviously, but I think with them openly being that way.

28:38 Ride or die, Yeah, yeah, you're like, they're riding and dying. Well, well, yes, but yeah, I guess that's the right way to say that. Oh my God, I've been saying that wrong this my whole life. They're writing and dying. The more you know. But they will. I think they've always been that way. Maybe it just was in the show's detriment that it didn't show it that well or wasn't that apparent. But that's the feeling I got because I believe they did say even just going to Seattle, like both of them were like, yeah, I'm, I'm in this with you. And I think that they both don't care how far they're going to go as long as they do it together. Because Ellie is worried. She's like, you're pregnant now with Jesse's kid, Like you got to go back and she's like, no, I'm I'm going to do this with you.

29:22 And they're. OK, Yeah, Yeah. And there was a moment in this episode where they have kind of like, have a mini conversation of like, you know, if something happens, they kind of look at each other and they're like, you know, what to do. Yeah, right. And so there is that mentality. Again, it's the world that they live in, so I guess it would it be safer for Dina just to turn around. Also, by the way, Shimmer, I hope they go back and get Shimmer because he's just hanging out in that music store. There is a lot of grass there for shimmer so. Well, how are they going to get back? I don't know. They went down through a subway and came back up. Where's Shimmer? I don't know. They're just so shimmer's in the music store.

30:04 They the the the intestinal chandelier was at ATV station and they are now in like a giant theater. So I don't know the map. I don't know Seattle. We need Dina's map, Yeah, and then we can figure it out. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I guess, yeah, I guess we'll see if shimmer, it just finds their way. Because in the game, what's funny about the game is that if you get off a shimmer to go like explore a building or something, shimmer just kind of like Mosey's kind of where you are. So if you come out a different way, Shimmer's just like hi guys. So if they do that in the next episode, I'd be very happy because that's really funny. Personally, I'm happy that Shimmer is in a shelter with plenty of grass and is safe for the moment so that I like.

30:49 Right. That I like. Well, they wouldn't go out of the way to kill a horse, you know what I mean? Infected would. OK, so yeah, never mind. Yeah, I'm glad that Shimmer is in safety. I'm like, the humans would just steal Shimmer. They're like a cool horse. But yeah, I guess infected would eat them if there's no they. Sure would. Humans. OK. Yeah. So yeah. I think so. I think as far as plot is concerned, this move things along, but I think with some of the relationship stuff, it moves it along too quickly. That's just my own personal thing, but I'm scared of Isaac and let's leave it. At that, yeah, I think they had to I agree with you. I think that there was some moments, again, I, I don't mean to harp on the the library thing when I just kind of said they cut out the library, but I guess they had to move their relationship up and this was the best time to do it, Honestly, sooner better than later, you know?

31:42 But yeah, I'm very excited. I again, this whole cast, I think Oscar Isaac, Oscar Isaac, Oh my God, Jeffrey Wright. His name's Isaac. So I don't know. Jeffrey Wright is the only voice actor from the show to come in and play the character that they voiced because he voiced Isaac in the game. We have other people like Astley Johnson and Troy Baker and stuff. They came back as other characters. Same thing with the the woman that voiced Abby. So I think he's the only one that came back. Very cool. Also HBO loves him so makes sense. And I love him, yeah. We do. OK, so see you very soon for Doctor Who. If you've been following us with that, that's episode 5 or just next week.

32:26 If you're just following our Last of Us episodes, Episode 5 next week. All right, let us know what you thought of episode 4 and we'll see you on the next one. Almost done. Goodbye.