WONDER MAN Episodes 1 - 4 Review

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Hey friends, today on a bite of
we're talking about Wonder Man

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episodes one through 4.
I know that's Derek.

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Very excited to get into a new
MCU television show.

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All dropped 8 episodes.
So we're going to split it into

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two parts.
One, because we want to, you

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know, have the conversation go
on a little longer.

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And also so we can nibble on it,
savor it.

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Let's live in the world a little
bit.

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Really taste it.
It's.

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Getting weird.
Yeah, but I'm very excited about

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it.
Let us know in the comments

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below what you think of the
series so far.

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Have you watched the whole
thing?

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Did you do it all in one
sitting, or are you sparsing it

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out?
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All right, we got to get into

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it.
Spoilers ahead for MCU Wonderan.

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Brand new series.
Iron Man 3.

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Let's do it.
All right, Let us officially

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take a bite of Wonder Man
episodes one through 4, created

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by Destin, Daniel Cretton and
Andrew Guest.

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Simon Williams is a struggling
actor in LA whose dream is to

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get his big break.
However, he constantly turns

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opportunities into nightmares,
blowing things up for himself

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both on set and in his life.
Trevor Slattery is a disgraced

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actor turned criminal turned
actor looking to turn the page

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on his past.
While trying to rewrite a new

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chapter of the Department of
Damage Control tasks him with

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entrapping Simon in order to
uncover his hidden power.

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What starts as a mission of
strangers may just end up in A1

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under old friendship.
I I'm just OK, can I just like

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toot your horn for you?
I love it when you do these

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because they're so clever.
That's.

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Very kind I.
Can never do that.

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I can speak out the.
Cuff, but like writing

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beforehand anyway.
Give him some love.

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Come on.
Hearts, hearts, heart emojis,

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all that stuff.
But Speaking of writing and I

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don't know, thinking ahead, how
did you feel about these first 4

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episodes?
Half of the series like Wonder

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Man as a show.
So it's really interesting.

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It's, it feels like a very meta
take on things because right,

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it's a story about an actor who
in a show called in, in a

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literal show called Wonder Man,
an actor is trying to get the

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role of Wonder Man while not
really showing Wonder Man

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powers, just having them lightly
appear from time to time.

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So it's, I think wrapping your
head around the idea of when

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Marvel is releasing a property
that it's not always going to be

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Avengers style action
constantly.

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Which I will say I appreciate
because I I, I don't think that

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we need The Avengers, these big
spectacles all the time.

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Shows like Miss Marvel, Moon
night.

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Now, Wonder Man is showing us
that some of the quieter ones

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and the street ground level
stories are, I don't know, more

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relatable more, I don't know,
something that I gravitate

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towards.
Daredevil is a huge example of

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something that just like beloved
all around, but I get what you

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mean.
Well, you know, it's, it's

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interesting because, you know,
as you were saying that it made

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me kind of, I think it makes it
rounds out the world a little

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more in the sense that not
everyone who has powers is a

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superhero or not everybody who
has powers wants to be a

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superhero.
Well, and I think it's it's a

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good idea to round it out, but I
don't know, tell the stories of

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people living in a world with
people with superpowers.

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I think that's compelling.
That's interesting.

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And I'm glad that we're getting
that specifically with the

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Spotlight series.
I think so Marvel Spotlight

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definitely is more grounded than
the other ones.

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We've only gotten 2 so far Echo
in this one, but just between

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those two, I think it's it's
clear of what they're trying to

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do with these.
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And I have a quote here from
Brad Winterbaum, who is the head

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of like TV and streaming for
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And he said that he wants Marvel
Spotlight to be a platform to

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bring more grounded, character
driven stories to the screen.

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And I think if that's what
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that Wonder Man is a really
great example of that.

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You know, one of the things that
I think is interesting about

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Wonder Man is that it is this
more grounded thing.

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But I think that you'd still
need to have a good amount of

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knowledge about some things that
happened prior in the MCU.

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Yeah, I, I guess, you know,
before we get into like

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Wonderland himself and everybody
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we have Trevor Slattery in this
specifically.

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Ben Kingsley plays Trevor
Slattery, and I think him in the

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MCU going back all the way to
being introduced in Ironman 3 as

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the Mandarin, playing a
terrorist leader, acting, he

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just took a job for that.
So that was kind of the twist of

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that.
Then we saw him later in Shang

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Chi with the movie that actually
had the Mandarin in it, which I

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thought was clever.
And Morris, if you remember

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Morris, his little tiny,
faceless winged creature.

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And then now to this.
I think it's a fun arc and I

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have my feelings about Iron Man
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It's not my favorite, but I
think this is one of the

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coolest.
I want to say redemption arcs

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but just character arcs in the
MCU.

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Well, I even think though, that
this character is a redemption

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arc for the MCU itself, right?
To be said of, you know, casting

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Ben Kingsley in a character that
isn't a white character

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originally, right?
And so that was really bad.

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And so they're, it almost feels
like they're through these

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different properties making up
for that awful mistake that they

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made.
It's always fun when they're

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like, oh, but this was like, you
know, if you look at as a whole,

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it's like, fine, but it's like,
but that's what wasn't going on

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exactly.
Yeah, when Iron Man 3 came out,

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they were like, well, the
trajectory through the years,

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it's like, no, they just made a
really shitty decision, I feel

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like.
That choice, and also Tilda

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Swinton as the Ancient One are,
are just like, not needed.

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But I will say now that we do
have Wonder Man and Ben Kingsley

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in this role.
I love it.

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Yeah.
Like I think now we can be like,

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OK, yeah, maybe not the best
choice in the beginning, but it

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pays off in that when you find
out that twist and how where

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we're at.
Now, sure.

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And I think that also it is Ben
Kingsley.

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So we have like a master craft
and crafter in this.

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And continues in this series.
Phenomenal monologue calling

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back to plays.
Just fantastic.

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And I think that he and Yaya
Abdul Mateen the second are

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really playoff each other
really, really well.

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Yeah, so I I really, really,
really, really love Yaya Abdul

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Mateen.
I think he's a fantastic actor.

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I love the Black Mirror episode
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And in the third episode when
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it's just funny to think of them
kissing in that episode.

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But now they're like in the same
cinematic universe together.

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I love that.
I also want to say I'm not.

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I mean, I he's doing a, he's
really phenomenal in this.

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I think he's playing this role
really well, which I think has a

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lot of layers to it, but damn
this man makes a crop denim

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jacket look so fucking good.
The, I mean, just the show in

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general, we have to give all the
flowers to everybody that's

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involved in this, from
everything from the

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cinematography to the costume
designers and to Yaya being able

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to pull off the crop.
Denim jacket.

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Florida State.
And they're just, like, giving

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us the moments to just, like,
really take it in.

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Like, he just has, like, these
big broad shoulders.

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And he, I, I, I can't.
I can't.

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It's just too sexy.
And he's like, he's in jeans AT

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shirt and a denim jacket.
But the man is just oozing sex

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appeal.
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Yeah.
You know.

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I will say so like as a broader,
broader sense of the show, I

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really I'm liking how they're
introducing this world and where

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the MCU is at outside of The
Avengers and the big threats,

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but also how they're introducing
the origin of this Wonder Man

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character.
Wonder Man and the comic book

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readers know Wonder Man.
He's involved in some high level

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stuff.
He's very, he's not niche, but

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he kind of is now.
He was, I think he first

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appeared in Avengers #9 way back
in the day.

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He's one of the founding members
of The Avengers.

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His history is weird with Baron
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That's how he got his powers.
Ironic energy, whatever you want

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to think that means.
He's been dead, he's been alive,

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he's immortal, he's not.
And it's just it's wild, right?

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So I'm liking this take on
Wonder Man being a struggling

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actor, not already at the top,
not already at a movie star

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status.
So I'm liking seeing this, but

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having not only LA and Hollywood
be a character in this, but

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showing how somebody with
superpowers that really comes to

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fruition with his emotions, how
that affects A struggling actor.

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Yeah, not getting callbacks,
being frustrated, having to deal

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with the stress of auditions.
I think it's just really smart

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to do.
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And, and as the character that
is his main goal, his main thing

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is to have his big break.
And so what's interesting about

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this character of Simon Williams
is he tends to stand in his own

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way a lot, right?
We see our first opening scene

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is him on the set.
He's a a day guest actor.

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So meaning like he really just
has like 1 scenes in in an

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American Horror Story.
Which I do want to just say that

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this man thought more about some
of the stories in American

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Horror Story than Ryan Murphy.
Absolutely, 100% he's, he's

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trying to connect the web of the
mayhem, right?

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And, and but that actually ends
up being to his detriment.

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And so I've been trying to think
a lot about what this is about

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with Simon.
I understand he takes his craft

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very seriously, but what is this
saying about his character that

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it's right?
He, what we, what we learned

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through these episodes is that
he's hiding his powers for a

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very specific reason because
he's afraid that it's going to,

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well, it will hurt his career as
an actor.

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So he's hiding his own back
story, but then he's spending so

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much time building the
backstories of these characters

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that are literally just like 2
or 3 pages of dialogue.

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I think it's the case of he is
great.

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I think he knows that he's great
and he has the potential to be

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great or thinks that he's great
and he's not sure how to get

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from this point to that point
before.

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I don't know, Maybe you're just
a guest star and one episode of

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the series, which is a big break
sometimes for actors.

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Maybe you shouldn't try to
change the entire script because

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that's really not your position.
So I think that when we do find

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out in the third episode from
his mother on how he just didn't

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have any friends.
So I think there is some aspect

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of like maybe he just doesn't
know not socially, but like he

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has some struggles with
communication.

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He has like relationship issues.
He just recently broke up with

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his girlfriend.
So I think that there's just a

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lot of layers going on with that
and IA big reason maybe because

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he's hiding such a big piece of
himself.

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That, you know, and I'm not
jumping to, I'm not trying to

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speculate here, but as we're
talking about this, it almost

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feels like there might be some
quality of him being on the

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spectrum in some way.
Not being able to see the Gray

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areas, not being able to see the
new ones.

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It's like this is the work you
have to do in order to be an

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actor and not being able to see
those little things of like, you

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know, in this moment, maybe it's
not the time for that.

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I do think we have a lot of
questions about this Simon

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Williams, about Yaya's portrayal
of him and I, I'm very

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interested and we've only seen
the 1st 4 episodes.

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We're not going ahead.
So we're we'll figure out.

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So if some of this stuff gets
answered later on, that's

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probably why.
But I am interested to see

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because even his powers alone,
we find out that, you know,

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there was a fire and the Doctor
was very much like it was the

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stove, right?
So it's interesting to see the

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Doctor almost save face for him
a little bit.

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But is he a mutant?
We know that he wasn't exposed

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to goo like Doorman was, right?
We know that Baron Zemo in the

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comics didn't do experiments on
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So I think they're very much
setting him up to be some type

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of mutant or enhanced human.
Like he has a mutate of some

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sort because he's always had it.
So I think that does play a lot

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into how he presents himself and
how he either tapers or shares

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those emotions because he knows
that they're very highly

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connected to them, right?
And maybe there is that that

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story of him as a child, right?
And it's almost like feeling

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shameful for what he did, and
feeling that his powers can only

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bring shame and strife and harm
to his family.

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Well, look at what they've done.
He he broke his mother's island,

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which she was so proud and happy
about, and had a wine cooler and

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had a cutting board that came
out which I never understood

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those like they're very low
compared.

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To also how do you like?
You can't change it.

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Yeah, it's gonna get.
Gross.

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But like, but so he like,
destroyed that which she loved,

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right.
And so I think, you know, there

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is some, like it's only
associated with bad things.

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The porta potty incident, we
don't know what that's about,

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but that porta potty was
destroyed, yeah.

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Yeah, it took a giant dump, a
giant seismic dump.

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But from what we've seen of his
powers, it's some sort of like

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he can emit this powerful wave
of energy that can destroy the

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things.
Around him I'm very interested

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to see how they're going to
propel those powers or see what

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by the end of the season where
he stands because this character

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I mean is so incredibly strong
in the comics and it seems like

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even in this in the short bursts
of energy, he's extremely

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powerful and it.
And it and it is linked to his

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emotions and not being able to
control his emotions in certain

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ways.
Which makes me think that he

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might be a mutant.
And also with the Department of

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Damage Control being involved in
this, the last time we saw them

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aside from like Spider Man and
the in the Spider Man movie was

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with Miss Marvel, right?
And she's a mutant.

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So the only times we've really
seen them is typically with

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mutants, but with enhanced
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That just gave me a flashback to
in Miss Marvel when every once

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in a while they would drop in
the X-Men guitar riff.

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I'm.
Going to keep my ears off in

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here I.
Feel like we have to.

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I feel like we have to, but I
think that this character is

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just an interesting take on a
Marvel character and I'm really

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enjoying it.
Like I said, I think once you

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wrap around your mind around the
fact that just because Marvel is

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producing something doesn't mean
that someone going to be flying

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off and shooting laser beams,
you know, at an alien or

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something like that, you can
really sit and enjoy it.

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Yeah, I do think that we we are
in a place with Marvel, like

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they're scaling back a little
bit now with how much they're

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releasing, which is a very good
thing.

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But I think that shows like this
are very much needed.

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I think we do need to have a
variety of different things.

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I'm very much more looking
forward to more of the

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supernatural side.
Like I want more of like even

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the Doorman episode.
I felt like that was very like

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Supernatural, which we will talk
about the Dorman episode, but

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you know, like werewolf by
night, moon night.

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I'm like waiting for those types
of things.

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Midnight Suns, like I'm I'm
wanting that and those are more

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grounded.
I feel like then like the

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grander, like cosmic threats and
stuff.

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But it does make me wonder, like
just talking about the Grander

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MCUI, think I did read somewhere
that canonically this is the

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most recent time period in the
MCU timeline.

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So like we're currently in
current time for the MCU.

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Yeah, and every time we do come
back to Simon as an adult, if we

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do have a flashback, it says
present day.

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Which I do like that they never
make sure to tell you what year

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or time it technically is.
Which I think is very smart for

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an MCU property because you
never know when it's actually

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going to be released or
canonically when it falls into

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the timeline.
But so I think it's interesting

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to think of like these
characters that are introduced

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in these like spotlight episodes
or have miniseries or whatever

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of like, what does this mean
generally though, of like, when

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are we going to see them again?
Again, we haven't seen the rest

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of the series.
So it could answer that.

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But like I'm always curious of
like, I'm happy I'm here.

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I'm happy we're getting this.
But like, will I see them again?

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Right.
Because like she Hulk, Moon

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Knight, Miss Marvel, she did.
She did get.

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But yeah, those are, I think,
prime examples of like, will we

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see them again?
But that's what kind of makes me

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a little nervous about this
Marvel Spotlight thing is

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because it almost seems like
we're going to tell you this

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almost stand alone story and we
don't necessarily know if these

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characters are going to be
coming back.

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I guess in the grander schemer
things, though, for like Marvel

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and Disney, and that's kind of
smart in that like they get to

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see if it's popular.
Yeah.

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And if it's not, it's like,
well, it was a miniseries on

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Marvel Spotlight.
Right.

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And then in Avengers Doomsday,
we'll see like a movie poster

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with Simon on it or something
like that.

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I can't wait.
I can't wait when they sneak

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those little things.
Powerful enough.

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I mean, depending on how
powerful they make him in this,

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he is powerful enough to be with
The Avengers.

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I mean, he's a founding member
of two Avengers teams, the Main

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Avengers and West Coast
Avengers.

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Like he's there.
But will his official Avenger

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costume have a denim jacket?
That's the question.

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I don't think so, but I want it
to.

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Absolutely.
So I, I want to kind of now talk

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about Simon and Trevor coming
together, right?

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So Trevor is tasked with this.
So basically we learned that the

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Department of Damage Control is
kind of just like this.

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They've built a giant prison,
but there aren't enough people

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in it.
So now they have to fill a quota

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because the government thinks
that they're wasting money.

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OK, they're broke.
Like, let's just put it out

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there and they're broke.
So they're sort of a corrupt

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government agency.
I don't know if that rings any

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bells for anyone, right?
So basically he's, he's kind of

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being blackmailed, right?
And saying like, if you don't

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get this information on this
person that we think could

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possibly be, you know, like a
dangerous, powerful person, then

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we're going to throw you in jail
for all of your past crimes.

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And so, but for him, as he's
getting to know Simon, they

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really bond because again, they
have that love of the of acting.

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They have that love of the
craft.

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And he's real.
He's seeing a kinship between

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them.
Simon being such a fan and

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passionate and in the industry,
he understands that like, oh,

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this is somebody that like can
mentor me in some way, like not

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just eventually become a friend,
but I think you disrespect him

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in some type of way.
I love this, this, I don't know,

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buddy duo that's going on.
I just, I find it so fascinating

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when there's just so polar
opposites like culturally, age,

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experience and everything, but
they can come together and be, I

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don't know, just the chemistry.
It really reads well.

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I love it.
I I just love both of them

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together.
I think it's really funny

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anytime that somebody starts and
I don't know, kind of placing

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Trevor Slattery, like, why do
you look so familiar?

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It's not because of the movies
that Simon knows him from, but

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it's because he was the
Mandarin.

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And so he's always trying to get
past that part of himself of

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like, yes, I was this, but I've
done other things like I'm doing

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this now, you know.
But I do think it is a key point

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to point out the damage
department of damage control and

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how they don't necessarily know,
but they think.

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So they're using these sneaky
tactics of hiring somebody like

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Trevor Slattery to get close to
Simon to find out some

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information.
I think it's a really

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interesting twist.
Or how you tell the story of

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like how you introduce Trevor
into Simon's life.

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Yeah, it feels like the
Department of Damage Control.

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They're just so desperate now
that they're looking for any

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little trail that they can
follow.

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And you can see from Agent
Cleary like how desperate he is,

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like, no, do this now, do this
now.

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We need to do this.
We'll go ahead and do this.

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Like, it's almost like verging
on you're being reckless, right?

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You're gonna get found out,
right?

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And he doesn't care what happens
to Trevor at.

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All no, not at all.
And you have to even wonder.

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It's like, is the threat even
real of putting him back in jail

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and charging him for these
crimes or are they just using it

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as a way to get what they want?
Oh, I think for sure they don't

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care they'll easily throw them
in jail.

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I think added these 4 episodes
with them together.

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I love the third episode because
just seeing Simon's family and

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seeing a Haitian American
family, which was awesome First

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Haitian American hero, a
superhero in the MCU because we

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haven't gotten like doctor
voodoo yet technically.

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So I'm I'm we can give that
title to wonder man, but I.

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I think the second episode, Self
Tape was really fun to see

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because they're going to
different locations.

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It's almost like a montage
comedy of like we need to get

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this one thing done, but the
entire episode is going to be

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trying to get this one thing
done.

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I I really love that episode and
that really clicked for me with

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both of them.
And and I think that it that

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episode really kind of
solidified this Hollywood world

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that they're living in and kind
of things that get you ahead are

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the people that, you know, this
is kind of where we see the

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first of our sort almost random
guest stars, right?

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We have Joe Pantoliano.
Pants, yeah.

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And here and so like he's a good
friend of Trevor's and but he's

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Joey Pants playing Joey Pants.
I OK, I love the studio.

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I think most people should love
the studio, right?

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It's just things that we all
love.

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We all love entertainment.
I love that the show is like

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kind of satiating that like
hunger for a show like that in

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that like, we're getting actors
playing themselves and it's so

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much fun.
And just like this overall look

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and satire of the industry.
But I just love Joey Pants and

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so like seeing Joey Pants play
himself was so much fun.

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Yeah, it was, it was, it was
like, and you're just like,

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wait, wait, what's happening?
And it's so fun.

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I love when you're getting to
the point where you're realizing

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they're just playing themselves.
Yes.

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And I think the other notable 1
is Josh Gad, absolutely, which

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we'll talk about in the Doorman.
Don't.

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Forget about Mary Lopez.
Oh yes.

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Well, which was really funny.
Can I just for like a second

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talk about like the show as a
whole, right.

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So there's there was so much
conversation online of like it's

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not being promoted, blah, blah,
blah.

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I think like if you're going to
be on social media and say like

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this isn't being promoted and
you haven't promoted it at all

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by talking about it, I think
you're part of the problem with

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that.
But if you weren't paying

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attention, I do think that this
series had such smart marketing

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in that marketing marketing that
that they played into the tropes

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and the industry themselves.
They really thought meta and

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like big high up and overall
picture.

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But I think that like to have
the conversation more about the

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marketing and not about the
substance of the show is just

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kind of silly.
So I just wanted to like, I feel

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like we can't talk about this
without talking about just how

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the general world is talking
about the series.

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I thought they did a really good
job with it, but I loved how

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they use the real life people to
also market it on their real

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life social.
Channels, yeah, that's, I think

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that's really fun and really
clever.

449
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,960
It's just whether or not it's
like, so there's that it's the

450
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,720
marketing, it's marketing it,
but are you marketing the

451
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,360
marketing that you're doing?
You know, so that's that's kind

452
00:22:39,360 --> 00:22:40,680
of the disappointment I think
there.

453
00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:45,040
Let's get into Episode 4.
Yeah, I think we probably should

454
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:50,680
because it, I mean, fantastic.
So episode 4 is giving me heated

455
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:55,480
rivalry Scott and Kipp vibes
where there's just an episode

456
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,000
not with our main characters,
but this thing that happens is

457
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,160
going to is affecting our main
characters in some way.

458
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:03,480
It's like it's own little stand
alone.

459
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,040
Story I had no idea where you're
going with the heated rivalry,

460
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,680
but I was here for it.
It's when people are going into

461
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,720
each.
Other, I mean true, right?

462
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:17,000
I again, I'm loving that we have
a show for Wonder Man, We have

463
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:21,560
Doorman in an MCU property.
I I just love it so much.

464
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,280
Just the concept of that.
But having this entire episode

465
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,440
in black and white was such a
clever thing to do because one,

466
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,240
his powers come from the dark
force dimension.

467
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,160
So having it in black and white
just has another layer to it

468
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:37,160
contextually.
But it being kind of a nod to

469
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,440
old Hollywood Noor films, I
think it's really smart because

470
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:46,720
it gives us the context of the
doorman cause on why people with

471
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,120
superpowers and enhanced
abilities can't be actors and be

472
00:23:50,120 --> 00:23:51,560
in things.
Yeah, so I thought it was a

473
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,040
really smart thing to look back
to then understand the present.

474
00:23:55,240 --> 00:24:00,120
I I'm still personally wrapping
my head around the black and

475
00:24:00,120 --> 00:24:03,680
white thing and whether or not I
thought it was necessary.

476
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,760
I don't think it was
unnecessary, you know what I

477
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,200
mean?
Like it didn't take away from

478
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,240
it.
I think it only added

479
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,240
personally, yeah.
I, I, I'm, I'm not there yet.

480
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:16,040
I'm kind of still wondering why.
I guess again, I'm just trying

481
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,680
to, I have to change my
perspectives that just because

482
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,200
something is black and white, it
doesn't necessarily mean it's

483
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,080
supposed to be in the time of
yore, you know what I mean?

484
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,200
Or like old, or like Casablanca,
you know?

485
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,600
But technically it was prior to
what we saw I.

486
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,280
Mean, yes, but also Josh Gad
exists as Olaf, so it wasn't

487
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:36,120
that long ago.
Well, I if I remember John James

488
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,560
Ponsold, I think that's how you
say the last name, the director

489
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:46,080
of episode 3 and four kind of
cited that it it just is for the

490
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,080
love of the genre, you know,
just the love of Hollywood.

491
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,120
So I don't think there was
necessarily any like super niche

492
00:24:52,120 --> 00:24:55,000
down reason.
I personally really liked it

493
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,920
because it did give that noir
feeling that kind of like black

494
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,920
and white but glowy almost.
Do you know what I mean?

495
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,120
It's kind of like kind of it
just looks like glamorous

496
00:25:04,120 --> 00:25:06,760
Hollywood, but from like the 30s
and 40s.

497
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:11,400
I will say that since Doorman
part of his costume is a big

498
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,880
trench coat, it does give me
detective vibes of like the 30s

499
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,400
and 40s, so I'll give you that.
Well, his costume is also just

500
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,320
black and white, which is sweet.
Yeah, yeah.

501
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,880
So this is really interesting
because I think that, again,

502
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:28,600
this is a superhuman take on
what Hollywood can do to you,

503
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,320
right?
And so if you are seen only as

504
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,440
one thing, can you break that
mold into being something

505
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,960
bigger?
And for Doorman himself, who

506
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,600
kind of touches some goo, is
transported to the door

507
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:41,520
dimension.
Roxanne.

508
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,800
Roxanne was there.
Well, I think, I mean, can we

509
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:49,560
just can we assume that he got,
I mean, it's interesting because

510
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,840
I think like Doorman in the
comics is a mutant.

511
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,800
I'm not too sure where it falls
now.

512
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,080
Like is he still technically a
mutant because he can harness

513
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,680
the ability of the Dark Force
dimension to use it.

514
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:05,320
But he did touch some goose.
So it's like like he kind of got

515
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,800
like a chemical spill on him.
But is that also from Roxanne?

516
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,200
Like why would Roxanne?
Are they investigating the Dark

517
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,600
Force Dimension and they just
put it in a dumpster outside

518
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,680
behind a bar?
But also it was a Roxanne

519
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:22,600
Dumpsters is the bar next to
Roxen headquarters or there's a.

520
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,200
Few questions I have but I was
quickly like I don't care

521
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:31,200
because just the visualization
of specifically Doorman's

522
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,240
visualization of the dark force
dimension was so cool.

523
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,840
It was very cool.
Visually stunning.

524
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,880
Ding Dong, you know, I just to
take a step back, I think that a

525
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:45,840
lot of this series so far, these
4 episodes are very visually

526
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,720
well done.
You had touched on it lightly in

527
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,280
the beginning of the
cinematography.

528
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,400
And I think that they are really
coming at it.

529
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,720
I, I really noticed it in the
first two episodes.

530
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,920
A lot of the ways that they're
shooting this show, a lot of the

531
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,840
ways that they are lighting the
show, it feels very cinematic.

532
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,000
It feels very movie like and
they're really going for these

533
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,480
kind of dramatic shots, which
I'm appreciating a lot.

534
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,320
And I think that's what made me
really like the black and white

535
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,640
episode, because we still got
that and it it did have this

536
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,160
interesting junk to junk the
position between like feeling

537
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,000
old but feeling really new at
the same time of seeing him use

538
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,880
his powers of seeing him use
this special effects, right.

539
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,920
But your mind almost when you
see black and white, you're kind

540
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,240
of like it's old because the
last time we got something like

541
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,880
this was one division.
Then it was very much playing

542
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,560
into that time, right.
So you got that same kind of

543
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,440
feel between both of them, which
I appreciate.

544
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:39,480
I.
Guess there's something to be

545
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:44,160
said of kind of this Doorman
episode being a cautionary tale.

546
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,160
0100.
Percent being from the past and

547
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,320
painting what is happening to
actors in the same situation in

548
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:51,880
the future.
And I think it's a huge

549
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,040
cautionary tale to Simon.
Absolutely.

550
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,400
At the end of the episode, we do
see him looking at the story

551
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,560
from Mario Lopez talking about
Doorman.

552
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,160
And then he gets up and walks
out and I'm, I'm assuming that's

553
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,440
like right after it all
happened.

554
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,320
So that's like kind of getting
us to present, but not like

555
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:08,400
super super.
Present.

556
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,960
Yeah, a few, like maybe a year,
a couple of years prior.

557
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,960
To or even like the month before
or something like that.

558
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,720
And you know, I think that
obviously there's like an actual

559
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,760
clause that's been created, but
I think that there's also

560
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,600
something to be said of the
metaphor of all of Wonder Man,

561
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,800
right?
And So what it is to keep pieces

562
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,840
of yourself secret to in order
to help your career?

563
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,720
That's why I'm really thinking
that there there's so many

564
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:42,040
themes that are similar in this
show to mutants and how like the

565
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,000
the superhuman registry and
stuff like that.

566
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,160
And it seems like very much the
department of damage control is

567
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:52,520
pseudo kind of being the in the
comics with the mutants of like

568
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:57,160
starting that what is a bigotry
towards them starting that, you

569
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,240
know, separating between mutant
and non mutant.

570
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,000
So it seems like that's the way
we're going because like, what

571
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,080
do they have a list in a
registry of people that

572
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,880
potentially could be mutants or
whatever?

573
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,000
And we're going into the mutant
saga right after Doomsday and

574
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,640
Secret War.
So 100% I think they're setting

575
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,160
the groundwork for that because
I think we are very much getting

576
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:20,080
like he's feeling other not
because he's a black man, just

577
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,760
because he's a black man, but
also now he has to in his

578
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,160
industry be discriminated
against because he has

579
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,120
superpowers.
Absolutely.

580
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,880
And, you know, and I think it
mirroring the real world, I

581
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:33,080
think that there's something to
be said of how black character

582
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,280
actors are treated and how they
are painted into a corner, into

583
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,720
one specific type of role, and
they're not allowed to branch

584
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,600
out from that.
I think there's also something

585
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,760
to be said of queer actors
having to hide their queerness

586
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,960
for fear of discrimination or
again, being pigeonholed into

587
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,120
one type of role.
And so, and that's kind of that,

588
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,640
that's kind of that's what the
X-Men has always.

589
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,720
Done right.
And I do think it's interesting

590
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,200
that you said like being
pigeonholed or being put into

591
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,120
typecast essentially or putting
these specific roles is that was

592
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,640
very much with Doorman, happened
to Doorman.

593
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,840
Absolutely.
We did say, and he said himself,

594
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,440
I'm not an actor and like he's
not super great at acting,

595
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:08,760
right?
He does have these abilities

596
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,000
that help him.
But we saw like everything he

597
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,480
was doing was just not based on
him, but on his abilities,

598
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,440
right?
And so he's very much being put

599
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,120
into this box, the Ding Dong.
Ding Dong.

600
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,920
Catch phrase was wild, but I
think what did he call like his

601
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:24,840
fans?
Doorknobs.

602
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,880
Knobs.
I'm probably not knobbers.

603
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,920
That's good.
But that's what our fans are

604
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,480
called.
But I think I, I kind of just

605
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,360
loved all that.
Like he, you saw him kind of

606
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:38,880
backpedaling.
I'm like, oh, this is all I'm

607
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,640
being known for, but he's still
going to kind of play into.

608
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,640
It and then I think that that,
you know, again, this cautionary

609
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,920
tale of sometimes leaning to
into something of being like,

610
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,960
no, that's not for me.
But then seeing the fame, seeing

611
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,600
the money, seeing the notoriety
and then letting it kind of take

612
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:58,480
over your life.
And so really Doorman is that

613
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:03,440
cautionary tale for for Simon.
And so, you know, going into the

614
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:08,680
rest of these 4 episodes, I'm
really curious to see what Simon

615
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,680
is going to become as he's
trying to hide this huge piece

616
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,720
of himself and where this will
lead him in kind of the greater

617
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,960
scheme of things.
Well, also don't forget too, we

618
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,320
have this whole like subplot
with Trevor, right?

619
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,920
And him being this this mole or
this double agent or secret

620
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,760
agent for them undercover to
find out more about Simon, I was

621
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,040
very worried.
It was very funny to see him at

622
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,040
his fan, his mother's party,
interviewing his family and

623
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,000
stuff like that.
And then just being like, I

624
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,240
don't know him.
Like he's quiet.

625
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,600
But then getting that scene
where he's breaking the island

626
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,480
and him understanding that,
like, this is a person, you

627
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:51,400
know, and how Cleary talks about
Simon and how that does mirror

628
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,800
how they profile people is I
think Trevor starting to see

629
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,000
like, OK, I might have done some
fishy things and I might be

630
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,120
blackmailed into doing this, but
I don't have to do this.

631
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,880
Like, maybe I can do good as
well.

632
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,280
And I did like that he destroyed
that choir at the end.

633
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,040
His moral compass.
Yeah.

634
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,840
So I think it's it's going to be
really interesting to see Simon

635
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,520
come into his own as Wonder Man.
They got a call back.

636
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,080
I'm so excited about that and to
see where Trevor kind of goes,

637
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,400
where his trajectory goes.
So now he's going to have to, I

638
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,040
don't know, sneak about with
Department of Damage Control

639
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:26,720
now.
Right.

640
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,560
And is he going to sort of
sacrifice himself in some sense

641
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,160
for Simon?
Where do you think?

642
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,120
Yes, so as we're wrapping up
one, I need that remix of Olaf

643
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:39,920
in the club.
That was amazing.

644
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,200
Having Doorman have his like
superhero moment of everybody

645
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,080
going through him was fantastic.
But where do you think Josh Gad

646
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,680
is?
He's in his stomach.

647
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,680
But like, it's so terrifying.
I'm assuming that he went to

648
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,080
look for him because he can go
into the dark Dimension, Dark

649
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,520
Force dimension, and so it's so
terrifying to think that he put

650
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,240
him somewhere in there.
Well, you know that when he

651
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,360
first gets those powers, when
he's in the Dark Dimension,

652
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,160
there's kind of endless amounts
of doors.

653
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,640
Yeah.
So Josh Gad could be in any of

654
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,160
those.
I'm I'm very curious to see like

655
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,560
how the dark force dimension
works in this, which is the same

656
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,200
powers of cloak, cloak and
dagger.

657
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,760
Cloak gets his powers from the
Dark force dimension as well, so

658
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,320
it's cool to see a connection
between those two.

659
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:27,440
Also bring cloak and dagger back
but I worry if it functions like

660
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,440
how it does in the comics cuz
life can't sustain there.

661
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,880
So if they don't find Josh CAD,
I think he's going to be he.

662
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,080
Will have melted like a snowman
in summer.

663
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,120
Frozen 3 is coming out and we
need Olaf.

664
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:44,760
And it's called.
Where's Olaf?

665
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,720
Nobody knows.
Oh my God, imagine the synergy

666
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,120
between all of Disney.
But I mean, to wrap things up,

667
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,800
I'm absolutely loving that they
made Hollywood, LA, just the

668
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,560
film industry, a character in
itself.

669
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:02,520
I think Yaya Abdul Mateen is
doing a fantastic job as Simon

670
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,760
Williams.
I, I, I honestly think it just

671
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,199
breathes a new life into this
character where before it was

672
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:10,920
just like, eh, it's like some
wealthy actor that like has

673
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:15,360
these amazing powers.
But I'm more excited to see this

674
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,480
version of Wonderful.
This struggle is real, yeah.

675
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,480
And yeah, I, I'm really excited
to see where this character ends

676
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,040
up.
I so I want him to get the role.

677
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,639
I want him to come into his
powers.

678
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:29,920
I want him to rewrite the rules
of Hollywood.

679
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,679
Maybe he'll find Josh Gad and
save the day.

680
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,880
Yeah, I do have to ask, like as
we're wrapping this up, am I

681
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:40,280
going to ask the listeners this?
Do you feel like it's the

682
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,280
doorman clause?
Something like that is a good

683
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,760
idea if you think about it.
Like should super powered people

684
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,120
be able to use their powers on
an acting set?

685
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,040
We're really going to get some
answers here.

686
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,679
We're going to know who you
people are by what you did.

687
00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:58,040
No, I'm just curious because I
think it is an interesting thing

688
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,640
of like should, because I think
that also brings it to question

689
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,760
of like, well then these studios
don't hire graphic artists, they

690
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,160
don't hire visual effects
artists because these people are

691
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,680
essentially going to be doing
their job for them, so.

692
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,160
He's like they're AI.
I think it's an interesting

693
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,600
thing to think.
About well, I think that a part

694
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,720
of it is is that the clause is
against them using their powers

695
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:21,600
on set, but it also feels
discriminatory and just hiring

696
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,880
them in general well it.
OK, so I will preface, yes,

697
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,160
because it is very much if you
have powers, you cannot do it

698
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,040
baseline.
It's not just about using.

699
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,360
Powers.
So I will kind of amend that and

700
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:36,080
say, do you think it's a good
idea for people to be able to do

701
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,560
something like that?
Because I think it is an

702
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,640
interesting thing of, I don't
know, to think about and what

703
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,000
this is trying to say, I'll
show.

704
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,000
I'll show also the movie that
they were doing called Cash

705
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,720
Grab.
So funny.

706
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,520
And then?
Look at the MCU.

707
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,560
Madam.
I'm just kidding.

708
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:59,840
Cash grab 2 Cash grab doomsday.
All right, I can't wait for the

709
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,240
next 4 episodes.
We will be back next week to

710
00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:05,280
talk about the last four
episodes of Wonder Man to round

711
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,680
out the first series.
But yeah, we will see you guys.

712
00:36:08,720 --> 00:36:10,040
Next time, have a wonderful day.