Jan. 18, 2025

'Babygirl' Movie Review | Nicole Kidman | Harris Dickinson | A24

'Babygirl' Movie Review | Nicole Kidman | Harris Dickinson | A24
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'Babygirl' Movie Review | Nicole Kidman | Harris Dickinson | A24

Grab a glass of milk and a strawberry hard candy to fully enjoy A Bite Of’s review & discussion of Babygirl. On the menu: Nicole Kidman’s vulnerable performance, the importance of communication & consent, Antonio Banderas’ salt and pepper beard, George Michael’s Father Figure, and more!

Writer / Director: Halina Reijn

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Hi I'm Noah and fun fact I also
was up for baby girl but I'm

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lactose intolerant.
What a sin I know, and I'm

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joined here with Derek Ogori.
Who is also lactose intolerant?

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Oh, that's right.
Yeah.

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Lactate Household.
That's right, lactate, almond

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milk, oat milk, Creamer, We got
it all.

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We're talking baby girl today.
Oh yeah.

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All right, first official
episode of A Bite of this Year

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of a First Movie.
Right.

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Yeah, like a first official
review, I would say.

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And it's baby girl Time, Nicole
Kidman's newest movie.

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Baby girl feeling sexy baby
girl.

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This had come on my radar, I
would say towards the end of the

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year last year.
And then I forgot about it.

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And then it was like award
seasons coming up and there's

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like all this buzz about this
movie and we're like, why don't

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we do this?
This seems a little out there

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for us, but.
I like this for us.

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I love this journey.
Yeah, it's a.

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Different kind of magic than
we're used to talking about.

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All right, before we get into
everything, follow, subscribe,

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review, all of those wonderful,
amazing, beautiful things.

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We are still on the social media
platforms.

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As long as you guys are there,
we will be there.

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We'll stick it out with you
guys.

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So yeah, I mean, spoilers ahead
for baby girl.

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You haven't seen it?
If you don't want to know about

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every single sexy good time that
happens in Baby Girl, I would

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stop listening right now because
we're going to get sick.

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I promise we're mature.
We will be mature for this

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review.
I was very mature watching the

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movie.
I felt very in control of myself

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and very into the art.
And now I've lost it.

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Let us officially take a bite of
Baby Girl, written and directed

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by Halina Rain.
Powerful tech CEO Romy gives

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into her deepest desires and
surrenders her power to a young

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intern, Samuel, who captures her
attention and takes control.

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Milk.
Yeah, So what did you think of

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Baby Girl?
Let me tell you a story about

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baby girl.
OK?

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I went into it going oh God like
that.

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And then I watched it and I was
like, oh, OK.

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So I will say I really liked it.
I am very surprised by that.

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You have been surprising me a
lot more lately.

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Well, it surprises.
I love this journey for you.

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I feel like your movie, like
Horizons have been opened a

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little bit and I love it.
I'm just exploring.

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I'm an movie explorer.
These new arises, I just love

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them.
Yeah, well, that's good.

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I I'm glad that you did like it
because this movie is

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interesting.
I don't know how to feel about

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it.
I like it, but also like it's

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one of those movies where I have
thought about it quite a bit,

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but I don't know what I'm
thinking.

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Does that it it, it, it there's
no conclusion for this movie

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there.
It's not a typical movie of

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like, you know, when a woman is
in the situation, it's shameful

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or, you know, she doesn't get
the good side of the story at

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the end.
And none of that really happens

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in this.
So trying to figure out what

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they're trying to say with this
movie and also just not really

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saying with it is an interesting
experience.

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I think that this movie follows
many similar beats that a movie

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about someone committing
adultery follows.

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But I think that what it does
is, is that it delves into a

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side of sexuality that I don't
believe is depicted on screen in

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sort of this tender, fragile
way, especially with the type of

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relationship that they have.
So I think that's what makes it

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different.
That's what makes it feel a

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little more kind of highbrow in
a sense, right?

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Because some people are
describing this as like a

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psychological erotic thriller,
kind of in the vein of Basic

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Instinct.
But the writer director calls it

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a comedy of manners and asks the
question, can you love even the

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most shameful parts of yourself?
That's really fun.

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OK, So I like that.
I like that a lot because I I

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honestly don't agree that it's a
thriller.

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There's moments where it's like,
even though the morality of

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almost every single character in
this movie is like it's not

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about what's right and wrong,
right.

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It's about, I would say about
shame for most of these

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characters.
But I like that.

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I like that she they're
explaining that it's like it's

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it's more about the exploration
of that.

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And that's true because it,
again, it's not really because

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by the end of it, it's like
there's not really a a happy

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ending.
It's just a character developed

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in a certain way and that's it.
There's really no conclusion,

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which I feel like is just weird
for me.

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Yeah, it's ambiguous in a way
where it's like, oh, but wait.

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Oh, that's it, OK.
Yeah.

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You know, yeah.
And I think that it really fit

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it right.
I mean, I don't think that we

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were expecting them to run off
into the distance in a happily

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ever after, you know, storyline.
I think that it very much

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centers on Romy, Nicole Kidman's
character here and really seeing

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her, you know, literally and
figuratively stripped down.

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Without her I don't think this
movie would have worked.

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Like she carried the hell out of
this movie and I think to her

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supporting casts credit, they
let her do that because I felt

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like Samuel, who is Dickinson's
character, if he did too much,

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it would have taken away from
that.

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And I liked how it let her do
everything she needed to do and

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he supported her in that way.
Where I feel like a lot of times

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in these movies, they they tend
to do the male gaze.

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They tend to I don't know, the
man is fine.

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The women is going to be XY and
Z in this position, but it was

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it was flipped in a way that I
appreciate it.

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And I also feel like this movie
is kind of like a kink coming

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out story, you know, Because her
whole thing, right?

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Is that in her relationship, I
think she's with him for almost

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20 years.
Yeah, like 19 years.

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Antonio Venteras, which I was
like is is that Antonio

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Venteras?
OK, looks great for his age,

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which if we but the if we're
going to do like a a male gazy

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thing.
If we put these two male

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characters, I'm like girl
Antonio Banderas.

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Come on with that salt and
pepper beer.

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No, Yes.
So you find out that she hasn't

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had her orgasm this entire time,
which it's like, girl, 19 years.

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Like you need to say something
like that was the most

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unbelievable part of this movie.
It's like you're CEO, you're

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really successful.
You're in a marriage for almost

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20 years and it's like you have
an orgasm, like you should tell

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somebody.
Well, yeah, so in watching this

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movie, I kept trying to figure
out, like, what is it about?

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Right in the beginning, what it
felt to me it was about was

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communication and how hard it is
to tell even your life partner

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what it is you truly want.
I guess that is it.

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I guess that is a normal thing,
right?

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Like you, it's such the person
that you're supposed to be the

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most vulnerable with and are in
these vulnerable moments with is

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hard to say.
I want more or less of a thing

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that is really interesting.
I, I didn't think about it that

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way, so never mind take that
back.

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I'm sorry.
Well, I, I, well, it's funny,

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right?
I I think especially in in

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media, I'm not saying that it
necessarily fully truly depicts

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real life relationships, but
those those lines are always

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like, well, why didn't you say
something?

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Why didn't you tell me?
Right.

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And it, and it just doesn't, it
does feel hard sometimes to

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communicate with that person.
And it's interesting you think

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that would be the person that
you would feel most free with,

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but sometimes you might feel the
most judged by them.

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Well, right.
And also, like, can't escape

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them.
You're like, I'm going to live

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with this person.
Yeah.

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And they're going to judge me
even though they they might.

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But it's all about working,
right?

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So how did you feel about the
depiction of sex in this movie?

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Because it it is erotic.
I wouldn't say it's extremely

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erotic.
Like there is definitely sexual

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situations but in in in a
different way than what I guess

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you would expect.
Yeah, well, I think that

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literally the opening scene of
this movie is her faking an

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orgasm and then immediately
running to their office and

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masturbating to pornography
because she can't have an orgasm

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with her husband, right?
I wonder what words of these we

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can actually say on YouTube.
I'm just realizing that.

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Well, I'm using big people words
I think so far.

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Sorry, I didn't mean to like,
cut in, are we?

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Going to get demonetized because
the baby girl.

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Let's see.
Anyway, continue.

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I'm sorry, I think.
We can't even get demonetized,

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whatever.
So I think that it very much is

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centered on sex, right?
But one of the a lot of the

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strongest scenes for me is when
she's because the relationship

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she ends up having with Samuel
is sort of a Dom sub

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relationship, right?
Control.

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Yeah.
So I'm not a sexpert, so I might

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be using her own terms.
I do apologize, but she's trying

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to give up that control.
That's what she's always wanted.

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And some of the those scenes
that I found most powerful was

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she's finally getting this thing
that she's always truly desired.

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But it's so hard for her to do
that.

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There's there's one scene in
particular where he tells her,

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take, take off your panties and
she's like, no, I don't want to.

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And this is like they're deep
into the relationship already.

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She's still so embarrassed and
feels so uncomfortable.

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And I think that Nicole Kidman
did such an amazing job of

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balancing that vulnerability and
feeling so uncomfortable but

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feeling so sexual in in those
positions that it was kind of

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mind blowing for me.
I really liked, I, I liked the

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sex scenes because they did feel
different than a typical sex

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scene.
I, I know there's this, this

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discourse that is online as well
with the younger generation of

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like, there's too much sex and
then like our generation is

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like, there's not enough sex and
things.

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And I feel like especially this
last year, there's a lot of

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movies exploring sex in
different types of ways.

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And baby girl coming onto the
scene.

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So in the beginning, it stays on
her, and then when she goes into

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the other room to finish
herself, it still stays on her

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in the cheap hotel room with
Samuel and herself.

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I think it's their first sexual
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It stays on her the entire time
through their entire thing that

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they're doing.
And it was such an interesting

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decision to do that because you
can see her going from shame to

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giving over to then fully
realizing this is what I needed

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that entire time, and then back
to shame a little bit.

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And that's why she starts crying
at the end of it 'cause she's

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like, this is what I've been
missing.

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This is what I need.
And so doing that and

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understanding that creates this
whole fucked up thing of, oh, I

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still want to have this thing,
but I have this whole business,

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I have this family, I have this
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Those two can't mix.
And so that's when it gets

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interesting because the trailer
makes it seem like a thriller,

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but it's not like that.
They have this really

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interesting conversation of
consent and it's after like

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something happens with their
relationship and then they come

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back together and that
conversation with consent I

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don't think I've ever really
seen on screen before, at least

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to that depth, right of just
here's the lines of no lines.

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Does that make sense?
Yeah.

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And I think as an audience, as
an audience member watching it,

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you're trying to figure out his
motive, right?

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Always like keeping him, like
what is his?

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What is he going?
To do yeah, what is he doing?

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What Why is he getting so
involved with her?

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And but when when that
conversation of consent comes

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up, you do feel like, oh, wait a
minute there.

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There are real feelings here,
right?

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Because he does truly respect
her.

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And that's the thing I think
that I think for a lot of people

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when you hear of a sort of
whatever for, for lack of a

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better term, I'm calling it like
a Dom dominant subordinate.

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You're not a typical.
Right.

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We think that, well, that means
that one person is abusing the

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other person or they're less
than them or but in this

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conversation, they are equals.
It's just that in this way that

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they have sex.
That's not necessarily how it

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plays out with the way he talks
to her and how he gives her

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commands of things to do, but he
really does care about her.

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Yeah, it it's interesting
because he ends up getting into

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a relationship with Wilde's
character.

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What's her name?
Sophie, I believe.

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Esme Esme Sophie Wilde is the
actor's name, right?

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Sophie Wilde as me, which also,
I didn't know that it was the

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same actor from Talk to Me.
Yeah, completely.

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Just.
I just didn't even put that

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together.
Fantastic.

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But when he gets in the
relationship with her, they have

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a conversation about that and
he's like, well, no, I, I like

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her for different reason than I
like you.

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So it's a really, I guess not
like I just typically don't hear

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these types of conversations in
movies where it's like you see

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the thing happening, the affair
and stuff like that, but you

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don't really get to the why of
it.

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And also how it's like a, a
necessity for that person,

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something that's been missing
from them and they need to

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explore it in that way.
So it's, I'm not saying they're

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right because they're definitely
not right.

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Even just like baseline your
CEO, he's an intern.

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Like, let's not do that.
And you're also cheating on your

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husband and, you know, and, and
so it's like, you know, I think

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with conversations of things
like polyamory and things like

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that, when people are in a
relationship and they're

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polyamorous, they're having a
conversation about it.

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They all consented to do that.
Exactly, exactly.

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Whereas that's the missing piece
in this, you know.

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Because maybe you could have
talked to Antonio Venteras and

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been like, you want to like open
this up.

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Yeah, Noah and I were hoping for
a threesome.

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There was one moment where you
think maybe, maybe, but then it

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doesn't happen.
They when they all confront each

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other in that second home, which
is like a mansion, disgusting

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wealth.
But when they confront each

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other and like Antonio's
character and Dickinson's

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character, like put their heads
together, I'm like, it is

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happening.
I was about to flip out and be

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like, this just rose to the
ranks of one of my favorite

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movies.
I'm like.

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Yes #1 #1 Christmas movie ever.
Oh my God, horny holidays.

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Come on, that's the sub genre
we've been missing.

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Yeah, we got horror holidays.
We need horny holidays.

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Exactly.
Give me more of that.

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But I was so hoping that they
were going to kiss or something

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of like, oh, you want to do?
I want to get on this too.

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I kept thinking like, oh, well,
he's like a he's like a Broadway

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director.
He could be into it, You don't

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know, he could be by or
something like that.

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Or but it didn't happen.
It didn't.

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But I think that my main point
is, is that she's trying to

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almost justify it in a way,
right?

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She even looks to her teenage
daughter, her teenage daughter,

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who has a girlfriend, Mary.
But then when they're at this

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upstate home, ends up kind of
hooking up with the girl next

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door, Ophelia and.
Yeah, Ophelia.

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Interesting.
They're in the water.

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Ophelia in the water.
Hello, Layers.

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Yeah.
And so Nicole Kidman, you know,

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very like comedy is like.
So what's going on?

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I thought you were with Mary.
She's like, I am with Mary.

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She's like, I was just having
some fun with Ophelia.

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So Nicole Kidman, you know,
hears Samuel say that's, you

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know, I like Esme for a
different reason.

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And then her daughter is saying,
well, I do this with Mary and

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this with Ophelia.
And so she's almost like trying

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to she's, she's having her mind
opened to these different types

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of relationships that can exist.
And again, maybe she would have

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had a conversation with her
husband.

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She wouldn't be, you know,
unfaithful.

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But oh, also that reminded me of
that Diane Lane movie.

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Wasn't it called unfaithful,
Right.

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And so it's very much a similar
thing.

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Well also like Eyes Wide Shut
like just if you haven't seen

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the movie, see it's it's
different You can tell the

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different times of when it was
made.

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But it's interesting contrast
between Nicole come in then and

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doing a particular movie that
has very like erotic in nature

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and then this one.
But yeah, I.

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I agree.
Yeah.

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I wanted to also talk since we
brought her up about Esme

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because as I was thinking about
this, so there there's the first

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time that he's like, it feels
like Samuel's intruding on her

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family is he comes upstate with
her laptop and he I believe he

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says something like, well, Esme
told me to bring it to you.

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We find out at the end of the
movie that Esme has known about

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her and Samuel.
So I almost wonder if in that

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moment, Esme was trying to trip
her up by sending him up there

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without telling her.
I don't know, like I want to

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believe.
So that's a really interesting

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dynamic there.
If we want to talk about, you

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know, her character, I think she
is the only one you can really

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root for in this entire movie
because it's like, yes, talk to

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her about her promotion, let you
know, do initiatives to get more

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women to come into the company,
love everything she's doing.

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And then at the end, she didn't
necessarily blackmail her.

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She didn't be like, it wasn't
woman against woman is very much

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like, look, you're doing
whatever you want to do, but can

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you, for the love of God, pay
attention to your company?

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Yeah.
Or let me do some things, which

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I was like, hell yeah, yeah.
And that's one thing I did like

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about this movie is that it
didn't necessarily shame her for

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what she was doing.
Nobody was really shamed in that

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way.
But also, it's like, you guys

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are stupid.
Like, stop doing what you're

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doing.
But I I did like that character

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doing that.
But I don't think she, I don't

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think in that moment she did.
I think it was at the party

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where she finally clicked.
Yeah, yeah.

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And then when she almost finds
out, Nicole Kidman throws away a

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whole cake.
A whole cake, three layer

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chocolate cake.
That was the biggest offense to

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me in this movie.
I couldn't believe it.

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I clutched my pearls.
Baby girl doesn't want no cake.

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Baby girl, you've been on my
mind fulfilled my chocolate cake

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fantasy.
Speaking of songs, I will say

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this, the costume was so good.
I loved the the neutrals and

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creams and stuff that they had
Nicole Kidman's character wear

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and then in specific scenes she
wore like colors.

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Blue.
That blue dress.

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So good.
The asymmetrical dress really

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cool.
The music in this movie, I love

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the original score.
There was just this like, kind

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of haunting, drumming,
heartbeaty, kind of just intense

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noise they kept using, which
really made me feel like it was

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a thriller, but more of like,
I'm being thrilled by what's

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happening.
Oh yeah.

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Titillating.
Yeah.

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Titillating soundtrack and then
also just the soundtrack using

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George Michael's father figure.
I love.

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That was my favorite scene in
the entire movie.

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From the raid all the way up
into that room.

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Oh, it was so good.
The rave was long, but the more

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it went on, the more I was like,
Oh yeah.

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Maybe I want to go to a rave.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
Well, well.

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But in the inverse, I do think
it's it's it's worth noting for

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this movie that sex is not just
serious, it's also funny and

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silly.
And there's a lot of moments in

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this movie where it shows that,
where it's like, yeah, it's kind

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of messy.
Like when he's feeding her that

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candy, it was awkward.
It wasn't super sexy, but like,

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oh, I'm, I'm enjoying what I'm
doing.

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It's not flawless.
Like, I can't get it in the

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first try.
But I liked how they showed that

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it wasn't like super manicured
in a way.

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It's like sex is silly.
Yeah, and you will never look at

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the strawberry candy that your
grandmother gives you the same

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way ever again.
Nor will you maybe not look at a

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small dish of milk or a full
glass of milk.

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How did you?
How did you feel about how he

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came on to her?
So that was a question I had for

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you.
So 1 little problem I would say.

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A nitpicky thing I had is I
don't know if it's necessarily a

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pacing issue, but I felt like
their relationship came out of

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literally nowhere.
I think it was opportunity.

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I think they both saw an
opportunity and acted on it.

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Like I there is a moment where
he, I think the first thing he

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does is, is in that conversation
that they have with the, the

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meeting, the ping pong, ping
pong.

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Ping pong balls, I don't
remember, she says.

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Part of the test was that she
had to see how many ping pong

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balls.
In the room, Yeah, sure.

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Yeah, that that meeting and like
she's going to leave and then he

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closes the door and he's like,
and he's like big kiss.

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So it did come on a little
strong, but I felt like he

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clocked her immediately because
he knew.

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I think it's in that
conversation where he's like,

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you want to relinquish control
essentially.

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It's like he clocked her like
that.

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But that's my thing.
I how?

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I think they just needed to do
it.

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They just needed to jump in.
Right.

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So that was my that's, I think
my one sticking point was that,

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you know, glances across the
office and One Cup of coffee

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does not equal high woman.
That is now my new boss.

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OK, but relinquish control.
But making her drink a glass of

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milk, I'm saying good girl.
And then leaving the room, Oh,

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that will do it.
Thank you, good girl.

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Why milk?
Because she's a baby.

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Why do you think it's called
baby girl?

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She's a sexy baby.
I'm a very sexy baby.

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If you know what that's from,
comment below.

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Yeah, because we're best
friends.

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Who slap am I going to shit on?
Are we going to give the

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gentleman what?
He asked for So yeah, she's a

421
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very sexy baby.
You're right, you're right.

422
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So I guess let's do final
thoughts, right?

423
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Give me your final thoughts.
My final thoughts are kind of

424
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give in to the unexpected nature
of this.

425
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Don't judge it.
I think that you could go into

426
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,840
it judging the things that are
happening because, you know,

427
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America was formed by Puritans
who were prudes, so.

428
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And I think they're coming back
you.

429
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Are they?
They're already here.

430
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I think just go into it and
experience it because I think it

431
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is very sexy and I think that it
does a good job of not somehow

432
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,040
over sexualizing an erotic
movie.

433
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I really appreciated that
because I feel like this is more

434
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of a character study on I, I
this this particular moment in

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this woman's life.
And I think watch it if if you

436
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,080
know, you can't watch it with
somebody that can not snicker at

437
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,200
when somebody says nuts or
balls, you know, I, I would.

438
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,520
Now we're now we're that can't
go on YouTube.

439
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,320
For sure.
Well, but you know, so like,

440
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,160
just just go into it being like,
OK, what is this about?

441
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,400
You know, let me like seriously
watch it because I have heard

442
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,200
people like have terrible
theater experiences with it of

443
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:42,400
like people just laughing,
right?

444
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,400
And it's like, well, that's
immature.

445
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,280
It's like when you see a horror
movie, you want to be scared and

446
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,480
it's annoying when people laugh.
Right.

447
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,360
And like make fun of it.
It's like go into this not doing

448
00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:54,760
that because you'll ruin the
experience.

449
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,040
Right.
And so, yeah, so I think it's a

450
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:01,640
it's an interesting character
study on sex and how this

451
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,320
particular woman deals with
that.

452
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,200
The only thing I will say that I
didn't really care for is that

453
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not every different sexual
proclivity needs to have a root

454
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in childhood trauma.
Because there was a moment where

455
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,240
she talks about how she was like
in a cult and all of that stuff,

456
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,320
which then could go into wanting
to have somebody control you all

457
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,840
this thing, right.
I don't think it's a healthy

458
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,720
conversation to always tack that
on, You know what I mean?

459
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,720
Because there is that gets
misconstrued a lot.

460
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,320
So we I don't think we needed it
because also that was said in

461
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,200
such a passing manner that we
didn't need it.

462
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,880
Yeah, I mean, in that same
conversation she goes, I I used

463
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,800
to think it was that, but I
think there's just something

464
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,920
wrong with me.
And but I think by the end of

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00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:57,200
the movie in we see her last
sexual experience on screen,

466
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,480
being back with her husband and
her experiencing kind of what

467
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,720
she wants from that.
There isn't a shame there.

468
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,840
And hopefully she no longer
believes that there's something

469
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:12,200
wrong with her for wanting these
types of this type of sex.

470
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,280
Right, even though it is in the
same exact way that she had a

471
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,000
sexual encounter with Samuel.
And she is fantasizing about

472
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,640
Samuel while it's happening.
Yeah, which I'm not shaming her

473
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,720
for.
Do what you got to do, I guess.

474
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,520
But like they still need to have
a conversation.

475
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:28,800
They're just trying to make it
work.

476
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,000
Trying to.
Make it work.

477
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,400
So final thoughts.
Nicole Kidman.

478
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,040
Fantastic.
I think that, yeah, I think this

479
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,440
movie deserves to be in the
awards conversation at some

480
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,880
level because she did a freaking
amazing job.

481
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,240
And what's so funny is that I've
been like, I can't believe she's

482
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,360
doing all these silly Netflix
movies, but then she also did

483
00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:51,800
this.
I'm like, OK, it's Nicole Giman.

484
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,200
She does what she wants.
And Antonio Banderas still

485
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,360
really hot.
Hell, really hot.

486
00:26:57,360 --> 00:26:59,560
So really hot.
So go watch Baby Girl.

487
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,280
If you've seen it, let us know
what you thought.

488
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,640
What did you think about Baby
Girl?

489
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,800
And do you like milk?
I can't drink a glass of milk.

490
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,000
I mean, I know I'm like those
intolerant, but like I never.

491
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:14,240
I will only have like a small
mug of milk with some cookies.

492
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,160
Not even that.
No, not even that.

493
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,320
All right.
Well, on that Milky note,

494
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,520
goodbye.
Bye.