Revisit THE CONJURING 1, 2, & 3 Before LAST RITES

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Hey friends, welcome to a bite
of On today's episode, we're

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talking about The Conjuring, 1-2
and three.

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That's right friends, we are
starting spooky season early.

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Although I feel like when
Starbucks releases pumpkin spice

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latte, it's officially fallen
spooky season.

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Whatever the 80° today begs to
differ.

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Very true.
Yeah, very true.

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I'm excited to revisit The
Conjuring movies.

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We've had The Conjuring in our
lives since what, 2010?

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Been a while, and it's finally
ending with the 4th, the Last

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rites.
That's right.

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Oh, James Juan, your universe
has expanded and now it's coming

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to an end.
No, revisiting stuff is always

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fun.
But before we summon the spirits

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of The Conjuring, make sure
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Make sure you have all those
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OK, spoiler alert, if you
haven't seen any of The

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Conjuring, 1-2 and three, we're
not going to talk about the

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extended universe most, but just
be warned that, you know, we

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don't want to be haunted from
your spoilers.

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I'm really trying.
Yeah, yeah, just.

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You know what?
Let it happen.

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When the ghosts come, they come.
So let us officially take a bite

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of The Conjuring and The
Conjuring 2 Directed by James

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Wan and The Conjuring.
The Devil Made Me Do It,

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Directed by Michael Chavez.
The Perrins, Hodgkins and

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Glatzels turn to Paranormal Team
Ed and Lorraine Warren when they

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experience otherworldly demonic
possessions that are hell bent

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on destroying their lives.
Based on the true stories.

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Of Ed and Lorraine wore.
All right, so the first

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conjuring came out in 2013, the
second one in 2016, and The

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Conjuring the Devil Made me Do
it 2021.

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When I said 2010, I think I was
thinking of Insidious, which is

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also James Wan.
Well, that's kind of where it

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started.
Patrick Wilson.

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Absolutely.
That's where that duo came to

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be.
So as far as The Conjuring in

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2013, did you see it in
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What do you remember from it?
Yes, yes.

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It's really funny because I
think when we started a rewatch,

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I was like, oh, let me watch the
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I love watching trailers from
around this time period because

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this was one of the last like
years or so where trailers told

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you the entire movie and it was,
it was verging on like out of in

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a world, but it still gave you 3
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And The Conjuring was like that.
So it's just, it was fun to go

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back to a movie from this time
period even though it's not that

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long.
But movies are made differently

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now.
I liked it a lot.

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I remember seeing it in
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I've seen every Conjuring in
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Made Me Do It, but the 4th one
we're going to see in theaters

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so this is fun.
It will continue.

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Yeah, James Wan did something
interesting with these and that

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yes, they were scary, yes they
were dark, but they were

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accessible to everybody.
And with the core being Ed and

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Lorraine, I think was just a
chemist or a recipe to really

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for success.
Yeah, I, so my first run in with

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The Conjuring was actually James
Wan was at New York Comic Con

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the year before it actually
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And he was there to talk about
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And nobody really knew what it
was about what was going on.

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They just knew him really from
Insidious and his past works.

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So I decided to sit on this big
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him.
And then they showed a small

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clip.
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was the the game, the clap and
hidden clap with the mom.

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And of course, they ended it
right when she's at the top of

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the stairs and the hands come
out from behind her and clap.

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The entire crowd lost their
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It just was like, I couldn't
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And then when I saw the movie,
absolutely didn't disappoint.

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I think that what James Wan does
so well, so he was part of the

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team that wrote one and two, he
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And what he does so well is
create these families that we

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care for, right?
And so the parent family and

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their one of their five
daughters, you can't help but

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care for them.
He does such a good job of

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setting them up, setting up the
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And then the warrants come in
and you love them too.

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And so it's so interesting to
watch a horror movie, but to

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truly care about all the
characters that are in them.

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That's a good making of a, a
good storyteller to begin with.

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What's really interesting about
The Conjuring movies, and there

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are some movies that do this
right.

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But what's we're fortunate
enough to have multiples of

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these movies is you have Ed and
Lorraine and you have a family

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and you have things that happen
and they come and try to help,

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right?
It almost feels like a

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serialized movie or a serialized
show in a way of like you have

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the family, you have the kids,
you have the Warrens.

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So it's it's you know what to
expect, but you don't know

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what's going to happen.
So that's the fun part about it,

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right?
And it's so rooted in real

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stories that it just gives you
that extra layer of like creep

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factor that I think works really
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One of the things that I really,
really, really appreciate from

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The Conjuring and Insidious, I
feel like, you know, he

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obviously did some interesting
things in both of them is that

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the expectations of jump scares
were changed a little bit in The

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Conjuring.
And specifically one that I

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think about is in the room, in
the girls room when she's

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opening up that armoire and you
think something's going to come

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out of it.
There's just a few extra beats

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after it where you're like, oh,
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But really the monsters on top
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So they play with those
expectations a lot in these this

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franchise, and I love that so
much because you don't know

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what's going to happen.
Yeah, I think another really

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good example of that in the
first Kind Ring movie is when

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Christine, Joey King's character
gets her leg pulled really hard

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and she says to her older
sister, there's something behind

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the door, and you're expecting
to see something behind the

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door.
But it almost makes it scarier

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that we're not Privy to seeing
what Joey King's character sees.

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I mean, we do get a big door
slam after that, which is so

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scary, but what was there?
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What did she see?
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I, I, I really like it a lot.
I think the, it's, it's such a

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vibe.
I hate using that word, but I

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love using that word because I
think it describes things

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perfectly.
When you can't really describe

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something and he just sets such
a good atmosphere.

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The whole team does, right?
I just love the feeling of, and

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I'm putting this more in like
modern terms or what more

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people, if you haven't seen The
Conjuring, it's like the

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Haunting of Hill House.
Like you have the family unit

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and they're haunted by things,
right?

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That's very much like every
single installment of The

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Conjuring.
And it's, it's a familial

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feeling.
But I love that Ed and Lorraine

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Warren are the center of this
because you get bits and pieces

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of them.
You kind of see their history.

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I can't remember which one it
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Was it the third one maybe where
you get a glimpse of the young

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Ed and Lorraine?
A gazebo, Yes.

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And that little tiny moment, I'm
like, fulfilled, you know?

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But it's so cool.
And I like that.

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He centered it around these two
real figures, but gave them more

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of a storyline and more of like
these are movie stars in a way.

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Sure.
Yeah.

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I, you know, there's something
to be said about the first two

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Conjuring movies in particular
that truly unsettles me because

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these families are trying to
have this home, this place where

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they're supposed to be able to
feel safe, but in reality,

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they're trapped there by, by the
spirits.

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And they kind of the key to
unlocking that are Ed and

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Lorraine, right?
They are these tried and true

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experts.
And although they too are scared

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of what's going on, they know
more about it.

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And so they have the wherewithal
to take a step back and figure

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out how to solve this issue.
And so they really are the

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connection of the three films,
right?

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And having them there and
visiting different families, it,

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it makes all the films different
enough that it doesn't feel like

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you're seeing the same thing
over and over again.

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Well, they're really the the
core characters of it, right?

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And it's really interesting when
you're watching these movies and

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there's a good like 30 minutes
typically in the beginning half

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of the movie where it's not
about them.

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They come in and you know, when
they get settled into the

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whatever haunted place or around
the person, shit's going to go

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down, right?
It just gets way more like James

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Wan where it's like creepy, but
like action Y and just like what

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is happening.
And I like that because it it

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doesn't really focus on them so
much to where you want more and

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there's still mystery behind
them, but you love them

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relentlessly, them.
And Judy, of course, Judy.

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You know, it's, it's interesting
because after seeing the first

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one, in my mind, the parents
were the main characters of the

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film.
And then when the second one

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came around, I, I realized, oh,
wait, they're while they are the

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main characters of that film,
they're not the main characters

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of the franchise, right?
And it is Ed and Lorraine Warren

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and the fact that it is based on
these real people that really

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went to these places and helped
these families.

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You know, it makes you think a
lot, especially on this sort of

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rewatch as a revisit and and
thinking about it for the

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podcast, you take a step back
and you think, you know, what's

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first of all, what parts are
added for the movie, right?

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Get that?
But which parts are real and do

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you believe it?
Oh, no, I knew this question was

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going to come.
I don't know.

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You know, I'm always and forever
will be a skeptic.

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I'm the type of person like I
need proof, you know, that's

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just how I am growing a very
religious household.

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It just made me more of like a
let me question this, you know,

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but seeing stuff like this and
like in these movies, always the

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credits it has like either audio
recordings or like actual images

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of some of these cases.
It makes you think like

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interesting.
Is there something?

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And if there is something, who's
to say which part is what?

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You know?
So it's it's scary to think

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about.
Part of me feels like it's

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comforting, thinking ish that
there's like something after.

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But it's also not comforting
when it's like, is this what's

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after?
If I die in my chair in the

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corner, am I gonna be used as a
pawn for some creepy nun to

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terrorize a family?
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So it is scary.
I don't know.

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I feel like you're a little more
spiritual than I am.

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Yeah.
But does that spirituality also

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go to like ghosts and stuff?
Well, yeah, it's, it's an

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interesting journey.
I've started listening to a book

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called The Demonologist, which
is about Ed and Lorraine Warren.

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And it has a lot of just like
first hand accounts from them

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and, and conversations with
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And one of the things that they
said today was that they said

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today that I listened to today
was that really only you're only

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trapped here if your spirit
feels like it doesn't.

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It has unfinished business.
They're a place to go.

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Yeah, they kind of touch on that
in the movies, right?

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Like, I mean, specifically with
the older man and the second

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one.
But it almost feels like some of

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the stuff happens to the
families because they're either

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like they've almost invited it
in unknowingly when they're like

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in the second one, her husband
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So she's very like depressed and
she's trying to do everything

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for her family.
The first one, it's like they're

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kind of like they can't leave
and they just walked into this

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haunting, right?
And the third one's like that

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too.
So it's interesting to think of

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that like the spirits can't
really go anywhere, but also

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these people are stuck in the
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Well, part of their theory is
that if you are in a similar

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state as the spirit, then it
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So good for you.
You're like a little

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demonologist over here.
Warrens Watch.

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Out, yes.
But so for me, I think the thing

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that I struggle with most, it's
funny, I really do lean into it.

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I do, you know, think that
ghosts and things like that are

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real.
I think that there is some basis

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to truth because my gosh, if
this is a hoax, they really went

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hard to try and do this, which
is like, I don't know, the way

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they're painted in these movies,
it doesn't seem like they're

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swindlers in any way.
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I would be really interested to
look more into them, right,

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because I think we can
romanticize the Warrens,

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especially with Vera and Patrick
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them because share those, too.
And we love them to death.

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But yeah, I would be interested
because I think we had kind of

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briefly talked about it.
Like, I mean, it didn't seem

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like in the movies at least they
talked about payment in any way.

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Like, how do they get paid?
Do they do it when they go do

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their seminars and teach classes
and stuff like that?

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Or like, is there a secret?
Like, does the church pay them?

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It was very interesting because
I feel like when money is

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exchanged, then we can be like,
interesting they're doing it for

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a job and not because they want
to help.

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Yeah.
Part of it though is that back

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in the 60s and 70s you could
probably live on one part time

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paycheck and be totally fine.
Well, the minimum wage hasn't

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changed, so wow.
But I think my thing that I kind

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of struggle with most is that
there seems to have to be a

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balance, right?
With the evil comes to good and

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their version of good is
Catholicism, right?

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They use the Bible as a weapon.
They use a cross as a weapon.

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And So what does that mean?
If you believe in one, does that

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mean you have to believe in the
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At least for the Warrens, it
seems that way because that

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truly was their shield.
Their weaponry against these

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spirits was their faith in
Christianity.

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Yeah.
I mean, yeah.

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I mean, I think like this.
This is where it gets a little

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like this loses me almost in
like the actual religious and

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spiritual part.
To me, what I see that as like

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totally fine.
Believe what you want to

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believe.
I'm nowhere near a expert in any

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in any of the stuff.
But to me it's like if this

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stuff was to exist, right?
And say like there is bad and

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good and there's some type of
balance or whatever.

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I think like maybe that's what
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And we as humans just like
gender and age and time and all

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of these things, we've made
social constructs around these

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things.
So like, who's to say Whatever

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light version there is that,
it's called Catholicism, right?

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It's like there's just that
force and there's this force,

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right?
I read a lot of like high

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fantasy and lot of like sci-fi
mixed with fantasy and a lot of

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those things.
Sometimes when it comes to like

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spirituality, I just read
Catabsis by RF Kwong.

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And a lot of it is like all of
the religions exist and they all

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can exist simultaneously at the
same time, but they're just

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different things.
So I like to think that way of

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of it.
And it's like, that's just the

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protection that the Warrens use,
right?

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I think it's interesting.
Yeah, I appreciate that view of

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it.
I mean, there's a part of me

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that's just like, well, that's
fine.

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They can be, you know,
Christians or Catholic or or

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whatever their their specific
faith is.

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But are they homophobes?
That's that's what I need to

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know.
That's what I need to know, yes.

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But I feel like they wouldn't
be, you know, there's no way

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that Lorraine Laura Warren,
Lorraine Warren, I'm having a

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hard time with her name right
now dressed like that.

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And it wasn't for the gays.
Just a little bit, just a little

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bit.
Yet not one homosexual in any of

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these movies.
I'm just saying.

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I'm just saying.
That's not true.

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I think in the third one, those
two girls, the one that killed

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the other.
One, yeah, that's.

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True, I think they were.
They were little nature

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lesbians.
Yeah, nature lesbians.

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Yeah, I think they were nature
lesbians, Boo.

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That was sad, but as far as
Patrick Wilson and Vera

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Farminger's portrayal of the
warrant?

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Movie, Yeah.
I think that I love them.

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It makes you I think that they
make you believe the love story.

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They make you believe the
strength between the two

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characters and the connection.
You know, I was just like

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towards at the end of the third
one, you know, watching them

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like two days, three days in a
row, However long it took us.

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You realize how many times
they're just screaming each

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other's names.
Yes, I wanted Ed and Lorraine

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count I feel.
Like their entire script, at

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least four or five pages, is
like Ed Lorraine.

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Yeah.
Just constantly, like, stop,

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you're doing too much.
Yeah, yeah.

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Especially the third one.
I feel like that's like, yes,

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they were both not great.
Their health was declining.

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Spirits were coming in it.
Was a lot the the more like

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pompadour Ed's hair gets the
worst health.

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Lorraine's hair.
The third.

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One, it just went whoop.
Oh yeah, straight back old.

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Yeah.
That's the image we know of her.

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Yes, yeah, exactly.
I like the is there like a

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family?
Because we're going to rank

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these right before we see the
4th one.

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We do have a review of the 4th 1
coming out.

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We just wanted to like revisit
these before we got to the end

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of them.
Is there a families story that

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you particularly like?
Not necessarily movie, but like,

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is there a family you're more
drawn to than the other?

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I don't know if it's just
because I have such a soft spot

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for the first movie.
I love it so much.

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I've watched, like for me to
watch a horror movie over and

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over and over again, it, it
means something, right?

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So the parents are my family.
There's something about them

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that I'm just so drawn to.
Just this middle class family

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trying their hardest to start
over, to have the life that

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they've always dreamed of.
And then, you know, fucking

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Bathsheba takes over.
Literally walk into a house

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infested with ghosts.
OK.

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So Noah and I were having this
conversation, the Warrens

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greatest adversary doors.
Yes.

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Apparently demons also hate
dogs.

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Yes, well, we were talking so
with the families and just

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sorry, no, no, no, no.
Yeah, the the families.

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I think the Hodges I'm a little
more drawn to, and it's mostly

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because of the scene with
Patrick Wilson singing Elvis to

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them that just really touched
me.

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And yeah, I was just like, it's
amazing.

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But I just, I think like, that
was the most human.

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I felt like some of the families
were, not to say the first one

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wasn't, but to me, I was just
like, oh, OK.

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Like I feel for this family.
But we were talking about like

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the body count, right?
In these movies and the first

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and second one, there's really
nobody that dies from the

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families.
But Sadie dies in the first one.

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She's like the only casualty in
this.

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And in the second one, Brew,
what's his name?

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Brutus maybe or something The
the Rottweiler from the

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neighbors turns into the Crooked
Man.

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Yeah.
But he comes back at the end,

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which is good.
But I don't trust that.

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I think he's a crooked man.
He's real crooked.

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Where'd the Crooked Man go back
to that?

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Dog in the dog.
He's a transformer.

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Dog's heart, Yeah.
I don't understand why the demon

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needed to kill.
Sadie because it gets that

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reaction.
That's for the audience, right?

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That's for us to hate
automatically put the adversary

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and its place, right?
In the Warren world, to destroy

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that piece of the family, to
make them all depressed makes

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them all weaker.
Yeah.

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Right.
Yeah.

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It would make me weaker.
Yeah, that happened to me when I

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moved into a house 10 years ago.
My dog died.

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Oh.
My God, you're haunted.

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I'm sure.
Let's not get into that now.

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So talking about, so we've
talked about the families, we've

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talked about the Warrens a
little bit, right?

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And I particularly like this is
just a side note.

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I particularly like the third
one.

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And this is just going to go
into my ranking later because we

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get a little more of the skeptic
view and we get a little more of

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like the world view of the
Warrens.

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And I really appreciated that
because I think the first two

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paint them as like these
untouchable.

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They're great.
And while that's cool, I like

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having that little Gray area put
into there and that those

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questions come.
Up, you know, something I was

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surprised of is that I was just
do I wanted to see some like

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interviews of them.
So I went on YouTube and I just

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typed Ed and Lorraine Warren and
the first thing that like most

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of the videos that showed up
were hoax fakes, you know, and

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so it was interesting to me that
on you like just in like general

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on YouTube, the first thing
wasn't real life interviews.

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It was actually people talking
about how they thought they were

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fake.
Interesting.

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I mean, maybe that's just
because of the movies and stuff

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like that.
Like they just kind of like

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that's what brought those
searches up.

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Like, are they real?
Were they real?

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Well, maybe people need to have
faith and love them that it's.

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Real so we've talked about the
families we talked about this

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the the unfortunate
circumstances of the pooches and

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the horns let's talk about the
ghosts the entities right the

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first one Annabelle makes an
appearance there's an Annabelle

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spin off none makes an
appearance on the bath Bathsheba

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in the first one Valic in the
second one crooked man also in

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the second one in the third one
oh is a witch right a witch that

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brought.
A demon, right?

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They call her the Occultist.
That's the characters.

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What's her name?
Isabel.

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The Occultist.
Oh, OK, cool.

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Yeah.
I do feel like whenever I was

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trying to think of the names of
as like I know Janet because

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they scream that name so much in
the second one, but I was like,

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what are the names of these
people?

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I feel like they don't say them
at all.

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It's like their last names that
they say, yeah, which I think is

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interesting.
But I know the names of the

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ghosts.
I know that for sure.

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Is there a ghost that you or
villain or entity that you liked

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the most?
What is liked me?

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Like you were scared of that.
You liked the story of just just

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liked.
I think the one that I was

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scared that I found the scariest
was the combo of old man Bill

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and Valik.
So you're more like the twist of

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it.
Yes, because what's interesting

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about that is that you think
Bill is haunting them, but kind

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of he's really asking for help.
Yeah, because Valek is using

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him.
Yeah.

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So he wants to leave.
He wants to move on.

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Well, he could have used his
words a little better.

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Just saying.
Yeah, I know.

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Why was it separated?
Was that Valek?

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That was probably Valek.
Valek was doing that.

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Yeah, and that was his way to
get it.

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But I'm just saying, like, he
could have been a little nicer

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about it.
How about you?

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I like the first ones only in
that like, I think it's really

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interesting to have like this
woman that was scorned to put a

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curse on the entire land and
then have just all of these like

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unfortunate deaths constantly
follow them.

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So I thought it was an
interesting pattern that once

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they connected, that they knew
how to break it.

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I just love like a curse.
I love a curse and especially

453
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,200
one that was like fuck all
y'all.

454
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,840
Well, I don't, I don't know if
we want to get into our

455
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:05,720
rankings, but I, I, well, it
doesn't have to be rankings

456
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:11,200
necessarily, but I will say that
as the movies went on, they felt

457
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:16,320
less like familial stories and
more like Hollywood horror.

458
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:17,760
Films.
I get what you mean.

459
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,320
Yeah, the the third one in
particular I feel like is very

460
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:24,360
like supernatural in like a
fantasy way.

461
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,240
And more like the Warrens are
like ghost detectives and they

462
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,520
have to crack the case.
And it looks more like they have

463
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,720
like supernatural powers as
opposed to like, which is fine.

464
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,720
I think like as technology kind
of advanced when these movers

465
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,040
are coming out, right?
We're like 12 years from the

466
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,560
first one.
That's to be expected.

467
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,920
But I get that feeling like
watching the first one and then

468
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,200
getting to the third one, I was
like, oh wow, they really

469
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,640
levelled up in their powers
here.

470
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,600
They levelled up in their powers
and also just like the way the

471
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:57,240
apparitions appeared, you know.
So I I think like as I love that

472
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,680
beginning part and you know, and
talking about Bathsheba and that

473
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,560
whole thing, that one felt more
grounded to me, you know it.

474
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,840
Felt more ghost huntery, more
exorcismy than the other ones

475
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,200
and.
I think there's something to be

476
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:15,480
said about still being scared
but seeing less, right?

477
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,520
Isn't it so scary when the hide
and clap scene happens and we

478
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,000
only see the hands?
Isn't it so scary when the I

479
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,240
think it's Nancy gets ripped up
by her hair and thrown her

480
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,120
around the room, but we don't
see anything else?

481
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,760
It's so scary when all the
pictures come flying off the

482
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,240
walls, right?
But you don't see anything

483
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:34,720
really.
Yeah, the second one does that a

484
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,760
lot too.
Like when the daughters are

485
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,400
first, like getting the mom into
the room and then the dresser

486
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,280
Rams against the door and closes
them in.

487
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:42,760
It's like, yeah, they do that a
lot.

488
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,200
And I feel like in the third one
they do that, but it's more of

489
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,480
like, I don't know, we got like
the zombie big dead guy from the

490
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,120
morgue.
So which is cool.

491
00:23:50,120 --> 00:23:52,440
I think it's great.
But I, I get what you're saying.

492
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,440
It's like it gets a little more
Hollywood.

493
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,240
Yeah.
As opposed to like kind of the

494
00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,360
the low budget anyway.
Even like in the in the second

495
00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:05,680
one is when we first see her
kind of like go back into sort

496
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,680
of a memory of a ghost or an
apparition.

497
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,680
Like we see that in the
Amityville right at the

498
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,200
beginning, you know, she's
walking around cocking the

499
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,680
shotgun and.
I fucking love that so much.

500
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,200
I don't I I get what you're
saying.

501
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,000
I love it so much.
I the way they told things or

502
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,840
just doing those memories.
I'm like, this is just so

503
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,560
freaking cool.
Like it's a better way than just

504
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,440
doing a flashback.
I like that a lot because like a

505
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,840
part of me is like, I didn't
mean to like kind of take that

506
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:37,520
for me, but like part of me is
feels like, is it actually what

507
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:38,920
they're showing us?
I feel like in the third one,

508
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:43,280
yes, but I feel like maybe we're
just seeing it because in the

509
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,040
second one, when she gets
Valic's name, when she writes it

510
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,080
into the Bible, she's not
actually walking and doing all

511
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,120
that stuff.
So it's almost like we're seeing

512
00:24:51,120 --> 00:24:53,200
it in her head.
But in the third one, it's very

513
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,000
much like she's in it well.
Right.

514
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,600
And that one scene that you
mentioned of the two girls in

515
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:02,040
the forest, like she becomes the
girl, she stabs the other girl,

516
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,520
she runs to the Cliff, you know.
So she, I mean, maybe there's

517
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,800
something to be said of, of as
the movies go on, as time goes

518
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,120
on, she becomes more in tune
with her powers.

519
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,800
She becomes more powerful and
they become more part of her

520
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,800
real entity.
I have, yeah.

521
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,880
I have a thought about that.
When we get to like what we

522
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,480
expect from last rites, because
it seems like it's hurting her

523
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,040
quite a bit the more and more
she does it and the more intense

524
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,680
it gets.
But to kind of get to.

525
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:35,280
So the what do we got?
We got Annabelle the Nun, La La

526
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,680
Rona and is that it?
Is that like the spin offs we

527
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,000
got from The Conjuring?
Because there's there's three

528
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,800
Annabelle, 2 nuns and 1 La
Aurora.

529
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:48,640
I saw the second Annabelle
before I saw the first one, and

530
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,560
the first one I didn't like as
much as I like the second one.

531
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,400
What's the third one?
Annabelle comes home.

532
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,240
I didn't even know it existed
until like 10 minutes before we

533
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,560
started recording.
And I've only seen the first

534
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,880
nun, not the second nun.
Yeah, I've only seen the first

535
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,080
nun too.
I didn't really.

536
00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:06,400
None of your business, yeah.
Yeah, the nun I didn't really

537
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,000
care too much about.
I thought it was fine.

538
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,760
I liked the the valic part of it
over, you know that I like I

539
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,360
like The Conjuring ones.
The the spin offs feel like spin

540
00:26:17,360 --> 00:26:19,840
offs in a way.
And I think that the conjurings

541
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,960
are great.
So standout moments.

542
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,720
I feel like each conjuring movie
and I'm trying I I want your

543
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,760
input on this, obviously, but
the first one, there's like a

544
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,520
standout moment like James Wan
likes to have like a moment that

545
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,800
you think about in the movie.
And I feel like the first one is

546
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,040
when little girls getting thrown
around by her hair, right?

547
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,360
That's like a moment's a big
like stunt scene right in the

548
00:26:44,360 --> 00:26:47,080
second one.
What would you say is like the

549
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,640
standout moment for that one?
Is it when she's getting kind of

550
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,880
like through the wall going into
the room and stuff like that,

551
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,000
that's where?
Or is it the Crooked man?

552
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,800
See, I personally, for me, it's
when she's going through the

553
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,640
wall, when he brings her into
that room.

554
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,200
I think it's the Crooked Man for
me.

555
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,800
See, so the thing for me with
the Crooked Man, that's where

556
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:11,320
they lose me in this one.
That is too fantastical for me

557
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,520
for The Conjuring universe.
I thought it was so cool.

558
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,760
Why would the dog transform into
the crooked man?

559
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,600
The crooked man you know is
chasing them around like that

560
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,920
feels less The Conjuring to me
personally got you.

561
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,120
But for why is it a standout
moment for you?

562
00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:27,760
Why is?
That it's not necessarily a

563
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,880
standout moment.
I'm I'm more talking like

564
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,240
there's moments that James Wan
creates in these movies where

565
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,200
it's like that's like the kind
of like intense moment or like

566
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,640
the the creative way they
decided to do this scene, right?

567
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,040
It's like throwing the girl
around by her hair and it's like

568
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,200
crazy.
The crooked man with the going

569
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,280
through the ceiling coming in
and then coming back out.

570
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,840
Very cool.
And I can't really pinpoint one

571
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,800
for the third one, like I don't,
I'm not too sure if it has it.

572
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,280
Is it the morgue scene with the
the guy or is it the second time

573
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,240
the guy shows up in their house?
Because I feel like that's the

574
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,000
big like intense, kind of like
heavy effects moment, right?

575
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,280
It's funny, I and and it just
seems so early.

576
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,120
I well, I guess it's not the
heavy effects moment, right?

577
00:28:10,120 --> 00:28:14,440
Just the standout scene for me
is when Arnie murders the guy

578
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,360
and then is walking down the
street and he says I think I

579
00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:18,920
hurt someone.
He's covered in blood.

580
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,560
So not to confuse them.
So let's like, let's do, let's

581
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,000
do the standout moments here.
What is the standout moment for

582
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,560
you in the first one?
Standout moment in the first one

583
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,080
is probably yeah, I think the
hair.

584
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:38,200
The hair moment for sure.
Or the moment when Beth Sheba is

585
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,800
on top of the Bureau and jumps
on top of her.

586
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,000
Gary Yeah, yeah, I agree.
I think the moment for me is

587
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:49,120
when the mom is on the in the
chair and has the the tarp over

588
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,640
her and then she flips upside
down.

589
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:51,920
Yeah.
Oh I love.

590
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,720
That, I mean, we all of course,
just need to point out that it's

591
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,080
Lily Taylor who plays Carolyn
Perrin.

592
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,000
Amazing.
Come on, it's cast in the first

593
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,000
one.
Oh God.

594
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,320
Yeah, whenever.
It's like it opens up a little

595
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:05,960
bit and you see the face of
Bathsheba.

596
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,080
Oh, it's so good.
She's like very good.

597
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,080
Second one Crooked man for me.
I I think the Crooked Man and I

598
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,240
guess it's when she gets Jana
gets pulled through the floor,

599
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,640
which is really cool because
like Bill, he kind of like Yanks

600
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,840
her from the rope.
I was like, this is so cool.

601
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:27,160
Yeah, I like that one a lot.
And the third one, oh, I like

602
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,520
when I like when Ed is fully
possessed and going after

603
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,840
Lorraine.
I that was very intense.

604
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,760
I knew it was going to be fine,
but that was intense for.

605
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:40,320
Me I I did feel like the third
one hit a little too close to

606
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,880
home when he had a heart attack
and needed a stent.

607
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,880
Yeah, I it was actually kind of
hard to watch the third one in a

608
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,360
way.
One, because of that, because

609
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,960
it's like too real.
But also it was just like, man,

610
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,000
Ed is like not doing well.
Yeah.

611
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,680
And I was just like, he's so
sweaty.

612
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,920
He keeps forgetting his pills.
Like can we chill?

613
00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:02,000
Out again, mad as pills.
Yeah, yeah.

614
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,640
I actually really enjoyed the
part when they discovered that

615
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,480
she put one of the Talisman in
the vase.

616
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,400
Very cool, very cool.
I love their investigative parts

617
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:18,080
to it.
OK, so let's talk about what we

618
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,040
want from Last Rites and then
move on to our rankings of the

619
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,000
first three, and then we will do
our final rankings of the entire

620
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,520
Conjuring run.
So I have to be honest in saying

621
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,080
that I have no idea what Last
Rites is about.

622
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,080
Me either, I haven't watched a
single trailer.

623
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,000
Me either.
OK, So what I want from it.

624
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,480
We're just going to make stuff
up, OK?

625
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,880
Love it is.
I wanted to feel more like the

626
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,160
first one.
Yeah.

627
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,440
And James Wan is coming back to
direct, right?

628
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:49,240
I believe so.
It might be Chavez again.

629
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:50,680
No.
OK.

630
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,880
Keep talking Outlook.
So that's, that's one of the

631
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,000
things that I want from it,
right.

632
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,120
So obviously we're going to see
them getting older.

633
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,640
It seems that Oh, I do remember
seeing a trailer now.

634
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,000
Travis is doing it.
Interesting.

635
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,440
Where Judy, their daughter, who
unfortunately I'm a little

636
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,000
bummed about, is not being
played by the same actor.

637
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,760
That same actor played Judy in
the first three.

638
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,760
Maybe they wanted someone a
little older because it seems

639
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,320
like she might be getting
married.

640
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,440
She's like going, you know,
she's trying out wedding

641
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,560
dresses.
But, you know, or maybe this one

642
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,440
is going to center more on the
Warrens themself.

643
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:29,400
I we did watch something that
was like it was Vera and Patrick

644
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,320
and they were talking about just
ending it right and what it

645
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,400
meant to do with this whole
thing together and everything

646
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,520
like that.
And it does feel that way.

647
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,680
It does feel like this is like
their movie and this is their

648
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,160
story and it's like the thing
that stopped it for them, the

649
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,000
Warrens, like this is their last
case or something like that.

650
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,080
It seems like it's going to be
very personal and I'm not

651
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,960
looking forward to that.
Like it does make me sad.

652
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,040
Like I don't want one of them to
die.

653
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,280
It's like we haven't gotten any
like real deaths like that of

654
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,680
our main cast or our families
and stuff like that in the in

655
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,960
the movies.
And it's like to have like Ed

656
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,240
die.
It's just, Oh no, I don't want

657
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,280
that.
Maybe they'll be like a flash

658
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:13,120
forward at the end and it's just
her by herself in their home in

659
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:14,840
that room.
OK.

660
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,160
With all their stuff and
Annabelle hanging out.

661
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:18,800
I don't like that.
Yeah.

662
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,840
I would be curious to see if
it's going to be what case,

663
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,280
because usually they do like a
real life case that they did.

664
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,040
Is it going to be a real case
with them or is it going to be

665
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,640
we're going to see a real case
and then it goes back to them?

666
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,680
I'm really interested in that.
Last Rites.

667
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,400
It does seem very exorcismy,
which obviously there's a lot,

668
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,000
but it seems heavy on the
exorcism and I think.

669
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,080
There's also something to be
said.

670
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:44,000
If you look at the three films
that we've had already, we more

671
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,320
and more of it involves the
Warrens themselves, right?

672
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,800
So it's not only are the
warrants helping the other

673
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,400
family, but by helping the other
family, they're inviting the

674
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,760
demonic presence onto their
family and their home.

675
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,480
And as the three films have gone
on, it's gotten worse and worse,

676
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,600
so it seems like.
Well, they keep stuff in that

677
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,960
room full of demonic objects.
Come on.

678
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,600
How often does the priest come
by to bless it?

679
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,360
Well, he said every month.
I do every two weeks.

680
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,640
Yeah, he got full time,
absolutely.

681
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:10,800
So you just have a priest
outside?

682
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:11,920
Yeah.
Thank you.

683
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,880
For sure.
And it's one of these kind of

684
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,000
funny is like, they're always
like, we need to get him to the

685
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,520
church.
And Lorraine's always like, we

686
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,080
can't do it now, Ed.
Just get ordained already or

687
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:22,600
become a.
Priest.

688
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,600
Or just have a priest on your
team.

689
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,480
Right, well, they did bring in
that new priest in the third

690
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,240
one, and he seemed very scared,
but he did a decent job.

691
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,240
The third one.
Yeah, OK, let's rank them right.

692
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,360
Give me your rankings for the
first 3.

693
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,560
My ranking I think is very
obvious. 123. 123, got it.

694
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:45,520
Yep.
Mine's 132 what 132?

695
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,200
I'm so surprised.
I just, I, I know that the third

696
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,200
one, it just has that witchy
vibe.

697
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,880
I love witches, I love curses.
It's just, I don't know, I mean,

698
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,960
if I'm being honest, I feel like
it's 1-2 and three are kind of

699
00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:01,920
very, very close and I can put
them together.

700
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,960
But what puts it over, I think
is just like, I don't know, I

701
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:10,280
think it is a little more creepy
and I like knowing more about

702
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,080
the Warrens outside of this
little bubble that they created.

703
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,320
So you have to go 1/3 and two.
I don't know if that's like a

704
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,880
hot take or controversial, but.
Maybe I'm wrong, maybe people

705
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,600
like.
You're not wrong, it's your

706
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,400
opinion, no.
But I just feel like, okay,

707
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,280
maybe mines controversial, maybe
people think the first one is

708
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,719
too simple, but I don't think so
anything.

709
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,280
I think everybody likes the
first one so good.

710
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,960
One thing that I do know about
The Conjuring is anybody that

711
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,320
I've heard talk about The
Conjuring has always liked the

712
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,760
first one at least.
I don't think the conversation

713
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,239
ever goes past that, but
everybody that I've come into

714
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,840
contact with that has seen it.
Let us know in the comments.

715
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,000
Like do you like The Conjuring?
It'd be weird if you got this

716
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,520
far in this episode and you
didn't like The Conjuring, but

717
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,600
as at least like the first one.
So at least it's a unifier.

718
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,040
Absolutely.
You know, I'm excited for the

719
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,080
4th one.
Me too.

720
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,000
Yeah.
And I'm gonna see if our

721
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,360
rankings are gonna change at
all.

722
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,080
We're gonna get 2 James Wands
and two Chavez's.

723
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,080
All right, well, we are all
prepared to go into last rites.

724
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,520
We've done our due diligence in
watching the first 3 again.

725
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,920
Yeah, can't wait.
So let us know what you think of

726
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,560
The Conjuring universe, If we
should check out the last

727
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,320
Annabelle and the second nun.
Are we missing out?

728
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,160
Yeah, Are they worth it?
All right, until next time.

729
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:25,760
Bye.