'The Gorge' Movie Review | Apple TV+

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It's a love story, baby.
Just say gorge.

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Everyone.
Well, do a bite of I'm Derek and

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that's Noah.
And today we're talking about

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the Gorge.
Oh, what a surprise hit for

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Apple TV this year, Gorge.
Gorge.

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It's gorge.
It's gorgeous.

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It's gorgeous, Yeah.
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Right, so spoilers ahead if you
have not seen the gorge, go

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watch it and then we'll talk
about the gorge when you come

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back.
Also, if you haven't seen it,

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like don't watch anything, don't
even listen to us.

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Don't watch any trailers go in
blind.

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I feel like that's that's a good
experience.

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Go into the mystery in the cloak
of darkness.

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All right?
Anyway, let us officially take a

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bite of the Gorge, Directed by
Scott Derrickson and written by

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Zach Dean.
Levi and Rosha have been

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assigned to protect opposite
sides of a mysterious gorge.

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They are.
They are to follow strict orders

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for one year where they should
not make contact with each

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other.
Days turn into weeks turn into

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months turn to romance.
However, the honeymoon ends when

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the Hollow Men appear.
So what did you think of the

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gorge?
How many times are we going to

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say gorge?
I hope no more.

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Gorge, gorge, gorge.
I like gorge in Bah, OK?

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You asked me a question.
Oh, sorry.

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But when, when, when music
inspiration hits, I can't let it

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go.
There, thank you, but it's not

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that kind of podcast, sorry.
So general initial thoughts of

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the Gorge.
I had a great time.

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I think I was pleasantly
surprised of the different types

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of genres that Scott Derrickson
decided to mix into this movie.

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We got horror, we got horror.
Horror, it's a weird word,

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horror, horror, horror, no
sci-fi, ROM comi, you know,

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survival horror, all of that
stuff and a lot of action.

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And you know, sometimes those
don't mix well, But if I had to

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like try to describe this movie
to somebody, I would say it's

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like Annihilation had a ROM com
baby.

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Like that's what this movie
feels like.

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And it's not even just like
there's like government stuff in

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here.
There's like unique kind of

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organic creepy creatures in
this.

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But then you also have like this
romance in there and you have a

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very personal story.
So I think it it it works.

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I don't, I have some issues with
like I guess genre Ness of it

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and the balance of them but
overall I had a pretty good

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time.
In Annihilation, when Natalie

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Portman fall in love with a Gina
Rodriguez, B the sabretooth

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tiger Beastie thing or C the
bizarre prismatic metal version

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of herself.
Yes.

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All three.
Yeah, why not?

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Good for her.
Yeah.

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I love that she's Natalie
Portman.

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That's.
True for me.

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I also agree that this was an
absolute delight.

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I really enjoyed this movie.
Again, we went in with not

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watching any trailers or
anything like that, so I was

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completely surprised the entire
time.

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I really didn't know what to
expect.

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And I think that it just
delivered on on both of those

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things, both the sort of romance
side of it and the mystery

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horror, sci-fi side of it.
Do I think that it's tough to

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blend those things together?
I do, especially when there's

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like, you know, radioactive war
testing happening, you know what

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I mean?
Like you can't really fit

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romance into that.
So, you know, for me it felt

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like in some senses they took
like if movie A was a ROM com

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and movie B was a sci-fi
mystery, then they chopped each

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of them into thirds and this
particular movie went A/B, A/B,

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A/B.
I do think that they, you know,

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punctuated each of those with.
So it's like the action often

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turned into the romance, the
romance often turned into the

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action.
That's my one critique, but

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overall I really enjoyed it.
Yeah, I think if we're going to

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kind of start with the romance
of this, I think it worked

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really well.
And from what I've seen and kind

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of heard is that that's the part
people like the most, which is

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surprising because I feel like
action is a really easy thing

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for people to consume and like.
But when you start adding

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romance in there and horror and
sci-fi, sometimes you can get

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muddled a little bit.
But I do appreciate about this

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movie.
I'm not sure it completely works

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all the way through like story
wise, because I think there is

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some.
You have to give yourself over

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to it a little bit.
You have to be OK with him

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risking everything to go see her
on the other side of this gorge

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fairly quickly.
But once you do that, I think

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it's fine.
The romance really worked for me

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because I think it was a fun way
to see them get to know each

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other.
In the beginning, they're like,

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you're not allowed to talk to
the other person on the other

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side.
It's literally like East and

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West put representatives there
that went right out the window,

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right into the gorge immediately
because it's like, oh, they're

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hot people, of course they're
going to talk to each other.

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Yeah, I mean, I think, you know,
Anya Taylor Joy has really

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solidified herself as a
fantastic actor just and also

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like this doe eyed beauty.
And so I get that right.

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It's like and.
Then she looks dumb.

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No, I'm saying she looks like a
little, a little Zo, a little

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Zia.
And she's just always like, I'm

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in the woods, look at my big
eyes.

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And we're all like, you know,
hypnotized by it.

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I feel like with Miles Teller, I
think that he sort of solidified

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himself as a hunk.
I I will say yeah, he.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, Like, right.
He's an action hunk.

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I would say after this movie,
he.

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Can be.
I think he is on the right track

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to go that way.
Oh, he said he's not full Hunk

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yet.
He said if he is a Pokémon with

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three evolutions, he's at the
middle one.

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Yes, Yeah.
That's a good yeah, yeah, yeah.

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He's not in Sinner OR yet.
No.

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He's.
Like I would say Aaron Taylor

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Joy, Aaron Taylor Johnson more
of like hunk action, you know

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what I mean?
Like I feel like Miles Taylor

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hasn't done enough action maybe
or big, big action movies to

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really say that, but I think
this is a good stepping stuff.

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Well, you know, if if you watch
the SNL 50th anniversary when he

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was on Bronx Beat, he was in a
Top Gun suit.

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You want Top Gun suit?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Great I'm just saying he also
did fan 4 stick so like.

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That was a long time ago, no?
It was like 2016.

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Fifteen.
That's not that long. 10 years.

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It was enough for me to remember
a decade.

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Well, I think you're letting his
past decisions color your

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perception of him.
If I were the if I was Drasha, I

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would also steal his clothes to
watch him run naked.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I'm not saying he's not

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attractive and can't be an
action star.

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I'm just saying he's like there
because I what I think is

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interesting about these actors
though, is that like Anya Taylor

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Joy is like, is she a list now?
Like I can never pin it because

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like she is like she feels like
she is, but it's like, I don't

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know, like is she Timothy
Chalamet status?

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No.
And I feel like maybe if Furiosa

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did much better, maybe, I don't
know, Like it's, it's

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interesting with these two
actors because it's like I know

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of them a lot.
I'd like some of the things that

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they're in a lot, but I never
see them in enough or bigger

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things.
I don't know.

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I think there's an art to being
an actor and being a celebrity

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and not necessarily needing to
be in the spotlight all the

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time.
Fair, like Timothy Chalamet, and

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I don't know why we're going on
this tangent, but I think that

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he has just decided like, I
don't know, when you start

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dating a Kardashian, that to me
feels like a very calculated

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move to want to be in the
spotlight.

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Do you know what I mean?
And so Anna Taylor Joy, Anya

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Taylor Joy.
I keep wanting to call her Aaron

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Taylor Johnson.
Anyway, isn't that so

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interesting ATJH anyway?
You can just swap out the last

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name and it's fine.
Wild.

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But I think that she has found a
really great balance of doing

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good work, being in great
projects, but not needing to be

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followed by paparazzi all the
time.

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That is very true.
She, you know, she does things

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like the Witch and Emma and
Furiosa and New Mutants.

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So it's like I think her
filmography is kind of up and

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down as far as reception.
But I like that she's trying a

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bunch of different things.
And I really liked it in this.

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I like seeing this kind of, you
know, they both of these

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characters suffer from PTSD and
some of this isolation and just

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some problems in their past,
right?

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I think that was abandoned
fairly quickly for the romance

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and the action, which is fine.
That's not what this movie is

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trying to do.
But it is interesting that they

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put it out there and then was
like, oh, they're fine.

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Like they found each other,
They're fine now.

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So it's like those types of
things of mixing.

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It felt a little muddy to me,
but the romance was enough to

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just make me forget about.
It yeah, I mean, I think The

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thing is is that everything has
to be speed up in this movie,

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right.
So we know that they are there

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for a year, quote UN quote.
And literally it's one of those

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things where it's like October
now we see Christmas trees.

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Oh, we know it's December.
So there are exactly, oh,

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heartbreaking, heartbreaking for
the book, the book version, just

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a little.
Bella sitting in the room.

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Oh my gosh, you're so.
Impressed possibilities.

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Oh my God, I'm feeling my
twilight.

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This is Twilight. 20 years.
OK?

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Anyway, sorry a lot of tangents.
Yeah.

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Anyway, anyway, I think that the
romance part, we had to be

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willing to put ourselves over
into this kind of high speed

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timeline because we just didn't
have the time in the movie to

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really sit with them.
I didn't enjoy the kind of

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falling in love montage.
Right.

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So they're communicating to each
other through.

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He has a whiteboard.
She has an endless supply of

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large notebooks and Sharpie
markers, which is really

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impressive.
I like how you that's like the

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one thing that you're like, this
is unbelievable.

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She there's no way they she was
writing so big on those pages.

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She was not saving any room for
error no.

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I mean, they were playing well
to get to my point, right is one

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of the things that I thought was
kind of cheeky fun was that us

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as the audience members they
made in this courting process,

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they made a nod to each of their
well known works, right?

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So they play chess together.
She had enough paper to write

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every move on a page.
Yeah, which is OK.

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His was a little more
believable.

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They gave him enough markers and
just the one whiteboard which I

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appreciated.
But no whiteboard cleaner.

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That's true.
Just his hand or his arm or

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something.
But, and then of course, the nod

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to Whiplash for him is that they
find pots and pans and empty

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drums, buckets where they can
play drums together across the

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gorge.
Which was such an insane move to

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do.
I'm telling you, it's so funny

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that in a movie that has beings
other, you know, I won't say

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otherworldly, but just scary
beings living in a gorge.

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The part that I find most
unbelievable is the drums and

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the amount of paper that she
has.

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Yeah, it's ridiculous.
There's literally trees that can

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eat people and skull spiders,
and that's the unbelievable

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part.
They got me with them skull

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spiders, let me tell you.
And those.

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Trees I thought I thought that
was really fun I'm glad that

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they went with whiplash because
that's I think arguably his most

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successful and well known movie
It's a fantastic movie

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fantastic.
Not fan 4 stick thank God and

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Queen's gambit right.
I think that's like, generally

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those are what audiences are
going to put them with.

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Yeah, I, I think the the romance
was fun.

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And you know why?
Why he said it was kind of

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romcom is because you get those
moments of like, playing the

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drums, playing chess like that,
shooting bottles from afar.

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But then, like, when he risks
everything to go across this

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gorge, he has a bouquet of
flowers.

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It's like but.
OK, but let's.

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It's charming, but it is wrong.
Commie.

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Yeah, I fine I.
Think we need to take these two

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characters into account, right?
So Joshua is, is, is carrying

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around the guilt of murdering
lots and lots of people, right?

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And so she wants to be free of
that.

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Levi on the other hand,
interesting, he has no one and

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here she is across the gorge.
Wouldn't you shoot a rocket

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across the gorge to then be able
to zip line across the way for

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your love?
I don't know.

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This is a lot of work.
What they could have done is

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just been like, hey, oh, I guess
no, because then we want to have

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the movie because JD, the guy
that what is his name Levi

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replaced, got killed when he
left.

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I was going to say like, meet me
here when we leave.

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When it happened.
I know, but like that was a lot

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of work just to be like, I don't
know if you'll like me.

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Nothing else to do.
I know, I know it's.

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It's it's a very interesting
version of texting someone you

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have a crush on, right, right.
And when you finally meet?

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Yeah, I I do like how ultimately
towards the end, it did bring it

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back to the romance of like,
this is what they were fighting

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for, right?
How did you feel about the other

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half of that movie?
How did you feel about The

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Holloman?
How did you feel about the

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Gorge?
So I liked, I like discovering

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everything that was going along,
going on along with our

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characters.
We didn't know what they were

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going to look like.
We didn't know what was going

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on.
I thought that the gorge piece

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really was intense.
There was like probably a good

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30-40 minute chunk of this movie
that was just action set after

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action set after action set.
You know, once he's leaving

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Josh's side of the gorge, that's
when he falls in a bomb goes off

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and the zip line gets cut.
So then she pops on a parachute,

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dives right in.
She's Joshua.

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OK, She's not afraid.
She's ready, he's ready to go.

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She said anything.
I collapse the sky.

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I will come for you.
I can do anything for love but.

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I will do that.
But I will do that.

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And so there, there were pieces
in this, there were jump scares

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that got me in this.
I would say two or three times,

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I yelled.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there this I

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think specifically when the big
hollow men action set piece when

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they were coming up the sides,
which I think is such a cool way

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to do stakes in action in this
movie.

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When it finally gets on Josh's
side and like the hand comes up,

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it got me because like, I like
what Derek, Derek Scott Dicker,

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Derrickson, there's too many
derricks in my head right now.

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I like what they did with the
the jump scares.

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It was off a beat, you know,
like you're you're anticipating

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a jump scare and you're like,
oh, it's going to happen.

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But like it happened a little
sooner and that happened

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multiple times in this movie.
I like that.

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I like when they mess with your
expectations because the whole

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point of a jump scare is you're
anticipating it and that's part

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of the the fun and the horror of
it.

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But when you turn that on its
head or just mess with that a

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little bit.
Very effective and I also think

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when you are spending a lot of
time in the ROM com portion of

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it watching them fall in love
and then something scary

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happens, it feels even more
intense.

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You got too comfortable, yes.
Exactly, and then they flip the

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table over.
That's what I that's what I

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think is a strength of this
movie is it did it quite a bit.

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It kept reminding you that like
they're trying to survive,

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they're trying to fight for this
thing for each other, but then

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they kept amping it up.
I think the pacing for this

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movie is really well done.
It's just a little over two

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hours and when I first saw that
runtime, I was like, OK guys, I

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think we needed it.
I think we needed to get to know

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them to really be comfortable in
that romance, and then to get

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all of this other like survival
Ness of it.

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The Gorge itself, when I think
about like the organization,

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Black Lake and Sigourney Weaver
and all of that stuff, I could

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care less.
I don't think that really worked

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for me because it was what it
was.

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There's nothing new going on
there.

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Government protecting the
secret.

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OK, Like, you know, like, that's
OK.

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That's all I need to know.
What I liked was the survival,

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was the horror, was the hollow
man.

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That's what I liked.
Yeah, the Hollow Man had a

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really interesting design.
You know, they are biologically

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based, but pet part plant, part
human, and I think they have.

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So this entire town is taking
over, which includes horses.

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And so it kind of gave me green
night.

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Just in the way it looks.
Yeah, in.

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The way that they were designed
and I think that there were so

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many sort of twisted creatures
and plants and human esque

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things that it each time they
ran into something it was sort

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of a new surprise.
It wasn't like they were running

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just from the same thing over
and over again.

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It was like a new creature had
come out to kill them and we

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were like especially like those
skull spiders.

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That was insane.
Yeah, it was really cool.

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Very scary and the fact how?
What did you think of the actual

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part of them uncovering the
mystery of the gorge?

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Again, fine.
I think it was very predictable,

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which is fine.
I don't think this movie is

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trying to win an Oscar or
anything like that.

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I think sometimes it's fine to
just have a movie that's like,

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oh, this is fun.
Like I would watch it again if

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it just happened to be on or
like, oh, do you want to watch

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something just to like, I don't
know, like have something silly

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or whatever, like.
I feel like if we were getting

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together with our families, we'd
be like, oh, did you guys see

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the gorge?
And if they didn't, we'd watch

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it again with them, right?
Right.

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Yeah.
So because it's not, it's not

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crazy.
It's not anything that anybody

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couldn't follow.
You know, I thought, I thought

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it was fine.
I think we needed some of those

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answers because if we didn't get
like the video of the woman

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showing, like you have 5 days
and you know, the mutation and

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all of that, I think we would
have had a little too many

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questions at the end.
It answered all of them.

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I think we can like think ahead
of like, oh, of course they were

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trying to use this to create
super soldiers.

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It's always super soldiers.
I mean, it always is.

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Yeah.
I I did think the part of them

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by so so there was this like
post World War testing facility

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that then later gets taken over
by Black Lake, right, to try and

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make these super soldiers.
But it is funny to me that the

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people that came in to do all
this testing later, more in a

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more modern era, left the
projector set up with the film

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that told us exactly what we
needed to know about what was

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going on there.
Yeah.

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And they also left the freaking
atomic bomb still ready.

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Willing to go project Stray dog.
Stray dog.

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Just press the button, you're
good.

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That's called JIC.
Just in case.

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Just in case stupid need to
explode it.

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Yeah, but it was I think like
action wise and stuff like both

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of these, you know, Miles Teller
and Anya Taylor Joy, fantastic

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in action.
I think they like, they do such

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a strong job of selling that.
And I like that they kept

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reminding us that like they're
doing it for each other, they're

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doing to survive.
So I think it did it well.

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I do think that some of the
storylines and themes were

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abandoned to service some of the
more I guess just crowd pleasy

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things.
But yeah, I think I think it

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worked.
I think the horror Ness of it

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worked well for me.
Did you have a favorite action

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piece in the Gorge?
I liked when Joshua got

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kidnapped and she had to fight
the guy off while kind of tied

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up.
I thought that was really cool.

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That really showed because also
when she was getting dragged,

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yeah, like she just getting.
He bumped around those trees and

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stuff.
I was like, no, thank you.

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But it was they didn't hesitate.
Like they made you flinch a

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little bit with that stuff,
which I appreciated.

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Like if you're going to do some
of these genres, you have to

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sell it.
You have to go all the way and

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you can't just like make the
action kind of there, but just

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focus on the romance.
You need to do both of them.

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Yeah, he was going to cook her.
Yeah, what about you?

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He's going to eat her.
I so I loved all the stuff in

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the gorge.
The part that I think I felt I

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was most on edge for was the
Jeep going up the Cliff.

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So this Jeep is just dangling
from this one wire and just tons

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and tons of Holloman are coming
to try and get them.

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And so it's just back forth,
back forth.

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Who's going to fall?
Is someone going to fall?

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What's going to happen?
You know?

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And luckily, they do finally
make it out.

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Sheesh.
You know, that was scary.

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But that part got me.
Yeah.

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I think overall, if we're going
to kind of go more towards the

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end of the movie, right, I think
them killing Sigourney Weaver

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because she didn't care about
them anyway.

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How many?
How many soldiers did she kill?

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How many people did she kill?
A lot, yeah.

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It would have to be a lot.
She's evil.

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I mean, and the Holloman are
just the battalion that went

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down there in the 1st place to
try to.

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So there's a bunch of people
down there.

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I do think that them trying to
find each other at the end and

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getting a very like Batman, The
Dark Knight Rises, like Alfred

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seeing Bruce across the way in
Paris and being like, I think

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that was kind of silly.
But again, plays into the

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romance tropes that I liked.
And a lot of times we don't get

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happy endings for this movie or
these types of movies.

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So I can't say I hated it, but I
was like, hey, OK.

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I think I would have been fully
disappointed if that didn't

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happen.
I needed both of them to

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survive.
I wanted them to meet up at the

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end.
I think it would have been

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upsetting if only one of them
survived and the other one

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didn't.
I do like that they left it up

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to chance and just trusting the
other person will eventually

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find them.
I, I mean, I knew it.

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There's, I mean, they're trained
soldiers.

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Of course Levi was going to find
her.

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Well, can I give him one of my
biggest grievances with this

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movie?
Absolutely.

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I wanted to know what the poem
was.

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We never found out what the poem
was.

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She read it because he he gave
her the poem, right?

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She collapsed the sky or night.
She claps the night and he was

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like, if I don't show up, read
this at sunset or whatever where

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they were supposed to meet.
So she does.

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You see like the first couple
lines and then that was it.

450
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I'm like, wait, no voice over.
Like, are we?

451
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,520
I'll tell you what, it was
enough to make our strong Josh a

452
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,680
cry.
Though I I wanted to cry.

453
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,200
Give me the poem.
Give.

454
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,480
Me the poem.
They made it such like a point

455
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,880
in the movie too, and I was
like, oh man, that's.

456
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,400
Right, I think we forgot to
mention that he's a poet.

457
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,600
I didn't really want to because
we didn't get to see the poetry.

458
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,440
But he was always just, you
know, very intensely writing in

459
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,040
that notebook.
Maybe she cried because it was

460
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,240
really bad.
She was like, this is what I was

461
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,400
waiting.
For yeah, night flight Kite, you

462
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,200
know, he just rhymed like that,
Yeah.

463
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,400
It was a simple rhyme scheme.
Yeah, the Iampic pantameter was

464
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,640
off.
And that's why when she saw him,

465
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,640
she was like, oh God, I just
became a waiter.

466
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,560
Great, he's back.
No, I'm just kidding.

467
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,080
No, she was so excited to see
Levi sitting there.

468
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,120
So do you think that it worked
overall for you?

469
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,880
I totally OK, I really do.
I I just think, you know, I

470
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,920
especially for something that's
over two hours, you know, with

471
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,040
all with really, I mean, this
cast was very.

472
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,600
Small, very small cast.
I mean, I would say there's all

473
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,440
those security Weaver and
there's all these soldiers and

474
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:35,960
stuff.
It was a it was a cast of two,

475
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,520
Yeah.
So for for two people to carry a

476
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,680
2 hour movie, I just thought the
pacing was good.

477
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,400
I thought the blend was good.
And I think that it's just fully

478
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,840
enjoyable.
Yeah, I want more stuff like

479
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,520
this.
You know, I don't know, like I

480
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,120
think Scott Derrickson is on the
right track with some of these

481
00:23:55,120 --> 00:23:56,760
movies.
You know, he did Doctor Strange

482
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,120
and I think he has Black Phone 2
coming out as well.

483
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,440
So he's he's doing a lot of cool
stuff.

484
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,120
So I'm excited to see what he
does outside of sequels and

485
00:24:06,120 --> 00:24:09,600
stuff, but what's fun about
this, or also could be a bad

486
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,040
thing, is that it does leave it
open for a potential sequel in

487
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:17,000
some type of way.
So who knows, maybe we'll see

488
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,800
that.
I guess if they can make a movie

489
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,800
like the A Quiet Place into
multiple films.

490
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,760
Annihilation.
Yeah, Yeah.

491
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,720
They can make the gorge into a
couple films now.

492
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,280
Uh oh.
Stray dog didn't take care of

493
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,480
everyone.
Now it's gotten out into

494
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,760
wherever.
Yeah, and I think that it then

495
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,000
it becomes like hard because are
we going to have another

496
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,200
romance?
Probably not, because then it's

497
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:38,920
just going to be the same movie
over again.

498
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,000
So babies.
Yeah, babies.

499
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,040
Babies No Flat.
Babies.

500
00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:46,560
Oh no.
Yeah, so I, I really enjoyed it.

501
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,040
Enjoyed it.
So let us know what you thought

502
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,760
of the gorge.
Did you think it was gorgeous

503
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,400
God, or did you think it was an
A?

504
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,960
Gorgeous A.
Group A Gree that's.

505
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,920
What I was trying to do
egregious A gorgeous A gorgeous,

506
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,680
Yeah.
It still sounds like gorgeous,

507
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:01,800
all right.
We'll come up with a second one,

508
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:02,680
but did you think it was good
or?

509
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,000
Bad.
All right, till next time, bye.