June 3, 2024

Doctor Who Ep5 ' Dot and Bubble' Review & Reaction

Doctor Who Ep5 ' Dot and Bubble' Review & Reaction
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Doctor Who Ep5 ' Dot and Bubble' Review & Reaction

Bubble down. Dot off. We’re traveling to Finetime in Doctor Who episode 5: Bubble and Dot! On the menu: the bait and switch themes of the episode, the true villain Lindy Pepper-Bean, yellow polka dot bikinis, supporting the slugs, the Doctor not being able to save someone, how this could shape the Doctor going forward, & more!

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their own little Hello Kitty
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Like actual OK.
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It was Season 6.
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Season 7 sorry today.
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going to go after you.
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about Doctor Who episode 5 dot
and bubble, an episode long in

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the making from Russell D Davies
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They had talked about it Smith
era.

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We finally got it.
Interesting.

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Lots to talk about in this one
I'm.

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Kind of curious of how they
change things from the Matt

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Smith era to the Shu Tikatwa
era.

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Well, but like, what did it
originally look like, right?

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I don't know.
No idea.

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They're not saying.
And they'll probably keep it

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that way.
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talk about Professor X and we
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All the gay things.
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Happy Pride month.
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And then, as always, if you have

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any thoughts on Doctor Who,
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I was going to say a mail bag.
They're true.

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Sorry, happy pie man.
All right, so spoilers ahead for

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Doctor Who dot N Bubble.
Mm hmm.

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So let us officially take a bite
of Doctor Who episode 5, dot N

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Bubble, written by Russell T
Davies and directed by Dylan

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Holmes Williams.
Lindy Pepper Bean leads a happy

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lazy life in fine time where she
connects with her influencer

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friends using her dot N Bubble,
works 2 hours a day and forgets

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how to walk.
Her friend list is hacked by the

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Doctor and Ruby who are warning
her that slug like beings are

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chowing down on her besties.
However, for more reasons than

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one, Lindy is finding it hard to
follow the Doctor's directions

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which will very well lead to her
own demise.

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Good bitch.
All right, so lots of thoughts

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on this one before we get into
the meat and potatoes of this

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episode.
The dot in the bubble of this

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episode.
Give us your general thoughts.

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OK, so this episode was like
this.

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Come on, guys, this is about
addiction to social media.

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Come on, come on.
And I'm like, yeah, I get them.

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They're right.
And then at the end, they're

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like, it's not.
And I was like, well, those are

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my thoughts.
Yeah, I this season as a whole

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has been very interesting.
We only have what, 8 episodes,

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which is very short for Doctor
Who season.

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So it's interesting to get to
episodes where they're kind of

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Doctor Light in a way.
You know, that shooting schedule

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and everything that it makes
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But it is interesting that each
one has almost been like a stand

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alone episode in a way instead
of, you know, kind of an

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overarching thing that we
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I like it.
It's just like different.

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As a long time Doctor Who fan,
so I'm liking these snippets.

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I'm curious to see how after
Rogue, the next episode and then

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the two kind of parter finale
how that's going to wrap the

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whole season together.
But I really enjoyed this

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episode.
I think it looked great.

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I think the acting performances
were absolutely amazing and the

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commentary was good.
I think that they did a good job

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of trying to wrap a bunch of
commentary in one thing and then

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the ending, really cementing
what this whole thing was about.

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Yeah, this episode really feels
like an outlier to me, at at

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least compared to the ones that
we've had before this.

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I feel like in the four episodes
prior to this, you and I were

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sort of tracking things like
babies and parents and music and

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snow.
And I feel like we really didn't

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get any of that in this episode.
So it's it's interesting of

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being like, well, where does
this actually fit in?

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Is it really part of the
storyline, or is it there for to

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make the commentary that it's
making?

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I will be interested to see
going forward if this is going

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to shape the doctor's views or
change him in a way because, you

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know, we haven't gotten this yet
with this doctor being a black

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man, right, and outright being,
you know, racist to his face and

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how that's going to inform his
character going forward.

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It's going to be interesting to
see that.

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So that's where I'm like, is
this going to inform it?

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If not, that's interesting.
Yeah, maybe it's going to be the

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thing where we we we kind of
said a couple of times in

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covering the series that he's a
leap before he looks type of

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doctor, right?
And he keeps getting himself

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into trouble because he just
keeps going into it.

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So maybe now this is shaping him
because he's going to stop and

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pause and think about who he's
going to be helping and how he's

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going to be helping them.
All right, before we jump to the

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end, because there's a lot to
digest with the ending.

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Like a like a slug.
Like a slug.

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Love those slugs.
So what did you think about the

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technology of fine time?
You know where everything's fine

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all the time?
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the commentary on social media,
although the ending commentary

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really wasn't about that.
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commentary about social media
and, you know, I think that we

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all do get sucked into our
phones.

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Granted, we don't have a bubble
around us, but we are, you know,

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face to face with screens for
most of our days.

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And so I think that that kind of
fine time of us just being able

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to live in this perfectly
curated pastel world is a

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reality that people want to live
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And so when you see Lindyndie
Pepper Bean, who's sort of our

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main character here, this is
where she exists and this is

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where she's most happy being,
you know, it's, it's

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interesting, right?
She's literally next to some of

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her friends, but she won't look
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She'll only look at them on her
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Which is, I mean, how a lot of
Gen.

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Zers are, right?
It's like they have this, I

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mean, I guess the society as a
whole now, right?

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It's this echo chamber, right?
And the bubble is like a

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physical manifestation of this
echo chamber that people are in

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and only curating what they want
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They don't look outside of their
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I thought it was a really cool
shot when she is in her office

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and they're trying to tell her
like, look around, look through

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your bubble.
So she's still protected by her

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bubble and she's looking, but
she still doesn't want to like

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register it and she just wants
to go back into her bubble.

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And it's a very, I think, you
know, this episode is very Black

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Mirror light.
It's like a family friendly

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version of Black Mirror almost.
And it's like, yeah, we we've

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seen this commentary before.
I think the way they did it was

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really interesting, having the
physical bubble and there's a

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dot that does it and how that
society works.

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But you know, it's, it's one of
the things we've seen before.

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Right.
Yeah, I think that it is kind of

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funny to think about how even
you and I who work in the same

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place, sometimes we'll just
message each other instead of

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walking to each other's office.
Well, it's like a walk opposite

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sides of the building.
You know there is there are

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people who literally work in the
office next to me and will still

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message each other on discord
instead of walking to each

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others offices, but it's
literally like connected by a

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door.
Yeah, I can't send a GIF in real

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life so.
I mean, that is true.

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How?
How will you know how I'm

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expressing myself?
Look at my face.

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I don't think so.
You need a gift and an emoji.

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Yeah, sure.
I I love when we sort of have

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these, what we think are utopic
societies.

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And they're very much based in
like these pastel colors, right.

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It's, it's interesting because
the buildings and everything,

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they look like kind of regular
brick buildings, maybe some sort

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of nondescript European city.
But the way that they're all

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dressed and they're all the same
age and, you know, they are kind

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of fitting this one type of
human of what it is to be

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popular.
Yeah, it's the the idyllic

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Society of everybody looking the
same and no individuality

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because why not?
Well, it's, it's, you know, I'm,

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I'm kind of again looking at the
way social media has shaped us

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now.
There are those funny memes

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which I feel like I fit into
since my birthday was just last

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week.
Happy birthday.

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Happy birthday.
Thank you very much.

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I'm a millennial, so I existed
in a time where there wasn't

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social media and how when it's
like me at 13 and we're like a

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total mess.
And it's like 13 year olds now.

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And they're all exact, you know,
they're on TikTok doing the

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exact same dance with the
perfect makeup, perfect hair.

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And it is it's, it's kind of
we've we've become that, right?

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And in order to be quote UN
quote popular, you have to

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follow this one trend.
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You know, and, and so in this
society, they're all these

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perfect pastel people.
From a like visual standpoint, I

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think this set looked amazing.
And it's like, would I live in

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that?
Yeah, probably.

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Would I wear what they were
wearing?

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No.
But aside from like, the way it

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looked, this episode did a good
job of OK.

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Actually, I'm.
I'm curious of what some viewers

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think about it after watching
it.

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Right.
Did you recognize what it was

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trying to tell you at the
beginning or was it until the

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end?
I think Russell G Davies had

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said something about like, you
know, it's going to be

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interesting for like white
viewers to like catch on to when

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it it it's interesting because
it's Doctor Who and for like a

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lot of their episodes is
primarily white.

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And that's the one thing I will
always criticize about Doctor

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Who.
It's like they could have more

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people of color in it.
And especially with Martha, I'm

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going to get off the soapbox in
a minute, but she when is she

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going to be mentioned?
She was a companion.

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She's a person of color.
It's like, like, come on, like

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there's there's something where
it's like, yes, I guess like you

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were you were saying this thing
and it has a commentary on

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racism, but also it's Doctor Who
created by primarily white

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people and most of their cast is
white.

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So it's I think it's almost
disingenuous to be like, did you

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catch on?
It's like, well, this looks like

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every.
Episode.

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That's very true.
Until you told us this is how

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the society works, right.
So that's like my main criticism

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with this episode.
Do I think it was done well?

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Yeah, But I think it's weird to
be like, did you catch it?

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Well, well, maybe that's the
question, right, is why did it

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have to be a did you catch it
thing?

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Right.
Why did it have to be once there

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was that final reveal in the
last five to 10 minutes of this

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episode?
Did we then have to go, oh,

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that's why Lindy did this.
That's why Lindy, Like, why

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wasn't it like, no, she's
overtly racist and that's the

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storyline.
Yeah, I I would be interested to

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see.
So this was a episode that was

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kind of discussed between Muffet
and Russell T Davies back and I

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believe it's a Smith era, Matt
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And I'm curious how this episode
would have been then.

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I know they said they couldn't
do it because the technology

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wasn't there or the budget
wasn't there.

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of color being the Doctor and

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having them kind of take the
brunt of it is interesting.

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I'm I would have been curious to
see how that would have worked

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prior.
They have done episodes where

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like societies are racist and
overtly that way.

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Well, I think one of the
interesting things is that they

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played off a lot of Lindy's
actions throughout the episode

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as microaggressions, when in
reality they were just

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aggressions.
Aggressions, right?

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And so why did we code them as
microaggressions when they were

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really just aggressions?
I'm curious.

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If it was right, I'm curious if
it was more of like, you think

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it's about social media, right?
It's also about this.

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And that was like the underlying
thing, which I think it did

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catch me by surprise at the end.
I was like, oh shit, they're all

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racist.
The society is racist.

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So yay for the slugs.
As two white people talking

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about this, I want to know like
what is Shu Tigatwa think of

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this episode?
Well, you so and the Doctor Who

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Unleashed episodes.
This was his first shoot as the

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Doctor for the season and I
believe in the episode they had

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had discussions of like, should
this be his first shoot going

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into the Doctor, especially, you
know, talking about race and

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being the person that's being
attacked by that.

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But they would ahead with it.
And I think I mean performance

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amazing.
These are the moments, not

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racism.
These are the moments of the

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Doctor where they really shine
and it gets to show them all the

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different layers of the Doctor.
That look that he gives when

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he's going into the TARDIS
looking back is heartbreaking.

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And I don't want, I personally
feel it's not rage or hatred

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towards that person.
It's just this overwhelming,

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like sadness and like and
frustration of like, I'm telling

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you, I can help you and you're
not doing it because of what?

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Because of what society told
you.

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That is the fine time standards.
It's just, it's heartbreaking,

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but God, he knocked it out of
the park with that performance.

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Yeah, you can really feel all
these very mixed emotions of

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anger and disappointment and
frustration and sadness in him

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looking at this group of people
and being like, I have an

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infinite amount of space in
this, you know, police box, just

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come with me.
I will absolutely, 100% save you

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and them saying no, right?
And so I think there's a lot

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packed into the final moments of
this, especially for Shu D And

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so in playing the Doctor in this
episode, I'm wondering if the

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Doctor is picking up on these
cues throughout the episode,

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like how we were supposed to, or
if he was just as surprised as

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we were.
I think that's interesting

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because while the Doctor being
well travelled and well in time,

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I don't think, you know, there's
been episodes, like I said,

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where there's like the core of
it is racism or there's a racist

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society.
I don't think he did until it

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was there until they were there
in person.

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Because the whole time, like, I
mean, he even said when Ricky

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September was on the thing,
which, yeah, for a gay moment of

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the Doctor being like, oh, he's
cute.

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And then Ruby and the Doctor
kind of like bickering about

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that, which I thought was really
funny.

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But the whole time, I don't
think he picked up on that,

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because it's really interesting
to then know the ending and look

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back on it.
Because he went up on her bubble

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first, she immediately blocked
him.

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But then when Ruby came up
there, she didn't block him.

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She listened to her.
And so I think that's the first

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instance, but I don't think from
their point of view they would

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have known that.
Well, I even think for us, from

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our point of view as the viewer,
we're thinking, oh, maybe it's

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just because he's a man, right?
She feels more safe with a or.

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Persistent or.
Right.

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With just like seeing another
woman, you know, kind of popping

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into her friend, but it's not
that at all.

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And you know, I'm kind of
thinking of the doctor as sort

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of a civil servant in a way,
right?

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And so because I'm thinking
like, what situations have maybe

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I been in where something
similar has happened?

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Granted, not the racism, but
homophobia.

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And so as a civil servant, as a
librarian, we want to serve

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everyone that's coming into our
libraries.

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But many times queer librarians
are having to serve homophobic

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people.
And So what do you do, right?

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You know, and, and when, when
you're there to serve them,

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maybe you're there serving them
every day, helping them find out

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information or log onto your
computers or attend a program.

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And then when you put up a pride
display, they freak out, Right,

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right.
What what do you do in that

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instance?
And it's keep it up.

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Well, as hard, as as hard as you
can, you fight to keep it up,

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right?
But now knowing that you're

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serving a community that doesn't
accept you.

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And so at least in this doctor's
timeline, this is the first time

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he's dealing with something like
that, right?

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Because he is.
He's sort of like this time

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space planetary civil servant
who just goes around looking to

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rescue people.
But then what happens when those

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people don't want your help
after all?

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Yeah.
Especially if you you've helped

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them all this time.
Yeah, I know.

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Whenever Jodi Whitaker became
the Doctor, there was some

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instances of her being the
Doctor, being a woman.

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And there were some things of
like, you don't know what you're

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talking about, or she'd be in a
certain time where like, women

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were seen as dumb or not in the
workspace.

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And she quickly overcame that.
So I think it's good for us to

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have the Doctor Who can change
to anything that they want to

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be, to have these types of
things, right, to be able to

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have these conversations.
Yeah, I I think it's interesting

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from an alien standpoint.
It's like, how when did he

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recognize that from a character
perspective, right?

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I know the actors going into
there knew what this was.

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But I think it's an interesting
thought experiment to be like,

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oh, maybe that's why he didn't
catch it immediately because,

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you know, it's alien, right?
And I mean, who knows if, like

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alien societies are racist.
They could be, but what does

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that concept of that thing right
look like?

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And this it might be the doctor
in all of his lifetimes, in all

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of their lifetimes.
Excuse me meeting this fine time

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society right.
So so they don't have their

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encyclopedia of I've been here
before.

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I know what this is about and I
just want to say something.

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Sorry to go back that I'm not
equating being gay to being a

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person of color.
I'm just trying to look at a

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small instance where maybe I
would feel some way prejudice,

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prejudice, but I could obvious,
you know, code switching is a

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real thing and I can you know as
whatever.

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I just wanted to put that out
there.

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Yeah.
I mean, I think it's important,

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right?
And I don't think that we would

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ever claim to be experts on this
thing.

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So let's take a step away from
sort of the themes of the

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episode and get into the sort of
Huniverse of this season and the

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appearance of our favorite
mystery person, Susan Twist.

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Oh my God.
So this is the only instance of

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a mother child relationship, you
know, and those themes that

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we've been looking for
throughout the season where

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Lindy calls, well, gets watches
a message from their home world.

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And her mother is Susan Twist.
Yeah.

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And interesting.
And on either side of it.

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Right, Doc, the doctor is going,
wait, I know this person and

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Ruby's going.
I know this person.

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But they know heard from
different places, right?

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Because the doctor wasn't there
in 73 yards, right?

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It's also, I just want to point
out, it's like, are you guys not

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talking about this together?
Right.

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What are they doing in the
TARDIS?

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They're just playing checkers
and playing fashion shows.

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Fun.
And there's also something

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interesting to think about of
this not being the Ruby that was

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with him when Susan Twist was
the ambulance, because he says

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that's the face of the
ambulance.

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And she says no, I know her from
somewhere else, right?

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So the Ruby that was with him at
the ambulance is the one that

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had to live that horrible life,
right?

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And now this is the new Ruby.
Right.

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But she still has some of that
residual memory, right?

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Stuff happening.
So it's like one of those things

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where it's like, you know how
sometimes you see somebody and

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you're like, you look familiar,
maybe you've never met them, but

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they just for some reason have
that like familiarity.

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Deja vu of it all.
Right, right.

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So it's going to be, you know,
again, I don't believe Russell T

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Davy saying that like they
didn't have extras everybody and

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find time on those bubbles.
There was no AI or special

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effects.
They were all actual different

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extras in people.
Because AI could not play a

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character named Hoochie Pie.
OK, they could not play

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character named Gothic Paul or
Doctor P.

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Doctor.
P Doctor P.

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And his entire job is to monitor
people's P levels, which.

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Means that they must have some
sort of chip in them.

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Oh, they're connected in every
which way, Yeah.

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I mean the the whole society as
a whole are arrogant and stupid

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and cannot do anything without
their technology.

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Which is sad, but also kind of
true.

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Mama Google Glass.
I do want to, I do want to say

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kind of stepping back from the
Susan twist thing because we

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mentioned this.
I have now growing up in the age

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of Maps and MapQuest and
everything, and now with like

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Apple Maps and Google Maps and
everything, I couldn't get

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around without it.
And I hate that I'm so dependent

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on it, right?
It's like I can get around to my

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normal areas, but if I'm like,
oh, I have to go to this one

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store in a town I've never been
in.

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I don't know how to get there.
No way.

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Imagine if someone handed me a
paper map.

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I was like, can you get us there
and be like, actually no, no, I

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cannot.
Are these updated?

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When was this pre downloaded?
Like absolutely, I'm totally

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with you.
And I think that we do have a

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lot of dependency on technology
and we see that here.

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I mean the fact that when she
does not have her bubble around

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her, she doesn't even remember
how to walk.

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She's an idiot.
I mean, there's that, yeah.

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But Kelly Cooke amazing like.
She, well, you know, there's a

429
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,760
phenomenal, there was a lot of
pressure on her to really carry

430
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,400
this episode.
She was really the one that was

431
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,320
there for, I would say 95% of
it.

432
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,040
And the fact that for a lot of
it, it's from the view of her

433
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,320
bubble.
So it's like the camera is so

434
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,240
tight on her face the entire
time.

435
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,080
I think she really carried it
off.

436
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,880
Yeah, she did a good job of
showing all the different layers

437
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:49,080
of like emotion to Diabolical,
which I thought was great.

438
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:53,120
And if it wasn't for her, this
episode could have went sideways

439
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,120
real quickly.
Like, I'm glad they found

440
00:21:55,120 --> 00:21:57,160
somebody that could carry it.
Yeah.

441
00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,840
I don't really know her from
anything else.

442
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:03,200
I'm sure she's probably like, a
star in some BBC show, Like,

443
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:04,800
phenomenal.
I hope to see her again.

444
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:05,760
And something else.
Yeah.

445
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,960
She was, she was a really
interesting character and I

446
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,840
think she did a good job
bringing her to life.

447
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,120
One of the other characters I
want to talk about is Ricky

448
00:22:12,120 --> 00:22:14,480
September.
And so he's sort of like the

449
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,240
main influencer, right?
He's the one that they all want

450
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,120
to know and be friends with.
His hobbies is you you.

451
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,480
Oh my.
And it's really interesting,

452
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,200
right?
When we look at what he does, he

453
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,840
literally sings itsy bitsy teeny
weeny yellow polka dot bikini

454
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,680
and everybody loves him and I
couldn't help but think of that.

455
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,120
Remember when musically was a
big thing?

456
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,120
It was like that speed up music
thing?

457
00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:41,080
And remember when that one kid
was doing it like in front of

458
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,800
his grandparent?
That was like dying in a bed.

459
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,080
Behind.
Him, yeah, he's like singing

460
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,240
this like song and like doing
like the weird movements and

461
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,720
like it's a literally like his
elderly grandparent is on like a

462
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,000
ventilator or something.
Yeah, but like that's.

463
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,440
What it's gone to, right?
It's like kind of take any

464
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,200
opportunity that you can to be
trending and to go viral.

465
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,240
And so the fact that Ricky
September's day, he just wakes

466
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,480
up and sings this song from the
60s and everybody's like fawning

467
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,080
over him.
Scary.

468
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,040
I love that they got their
rights to that song but none of

469
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,360
The Beatles songs and the double
S chord.

470
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,800
I did.
I just did a quick little Google

471
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,240
search on itsy bitsy teeny weeny
yellow polka dot bikini.

472
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,120
I don't think you need to say
the title every time.

473
00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:27,280
That's the title.
But OK, it was number one in the

474
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,120
US.
It was like #1 in Germany.

475
00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:30,800
It was number one in the UK.
Like.

476
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,880
No, when it came out.
In the 60s, I thought because of

477
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,360
the episode, I thought.
This is this is Doctor Who's

478
00:23:38,360 --> 00:23:44,920
Kate Bush up that hill.
At least that song's good, good

479
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,480
needle drop.
I think they they, they are now

480
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,120
associating.
I don't know anything about that

481
00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:53,760
song or what it's about or who
wrote it, but I now like that.

482
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,960
I'm going to think that it's
like haunting because of like

483
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,320
this episode.
Spooky.

484
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,120
Well, you know, I do think that
there is maybe this is me

485
00:24:01,120 --> 00:24:03,320
looking into it too much, but
there is a bit of a correlation

486
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,320
between the song and this
episode because the song is

487
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,840
about a girl who's shy and she
puts on the I won't say the

488
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,280
whole thing bikini.
And she doesn't want to like go

489
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,000
out of the locker room.
And then when she finally gets

490
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,240
into the water, she's afraid to
get out of the water, right.

491
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,600
And so you can kind of see that
mirroring Lindy, who's afraid to

492
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,000
come out of her bubble and
explore the world around her.

493
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,640
You know, that's that's me
really trying to draw a line.

494
00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:29,640
I think there's a difference
between like I I get it, but

495
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,400
it's like Lindy, you can't
associate, but that's no, you're

496
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,160
racist.
I do want to talk about Ricky

497
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,640
September, right, Because I
think his character is

498
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:44,080
interesting and I don't want to
say that, oh, he's the best one,

499
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,360
you know, because we don't know
if he's racist or not, you know,

500
00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:49,880
And it like he is probably just
as racist as he reads.

501
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,200
Books, though, we know that.
Yeah, OK, cool.

502
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,480
Like what kind of books?
Like, because I've just seen a

503
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,320
lot of people on social media be
like, oh, he was gone too soon.

504
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,800
It's like, well, I mean, we
don't I don't let's not go here.

505
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,720
He's.
Still a fine time in right I

506
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,200
think.
He gave a great performance.

507
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:11,520
His death, I want to say, is
probably one of the most graphic

508
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:16,160
deaths in Doctor Who.
Like it barely was out of the

509
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,320
frame when that dot went through
his head.

510
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,800
I was shocked.
I think I looked at you and I

511
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,360
said that's new.
Yeah, yeah, we were both

512
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,840
shooketh and I think that that
is right when the episode turned

513
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:33,880
those last.
Yeah.

514
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,720
And.
Especially for her.

515
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:40,400
This is the moment specifically
for Lindy where she will do

516
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:45,040
anything to survive.
And she dead names him and was

517
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,560
like, OK, bye.
I'm not going to help you.

518
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:47,960
Thanks for doing all this.
Yeah.

519
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,440
Yeah, that was really it was it
was it was really brutal,

520
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,960
especially because he spent so
much of his time and energy

521
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,320
saving her.
And then she bold faced lies to

522
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,080
Ruby and the doctor saying, oh,
well, you know, he went back

523
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:02,280
because he had more people to
save.

524
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,920
He wouldn't come.
That look, because it's showing

525
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,480
her facing her friends and
they're asking questions and

526
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,680
anytime she has to turn around
to address them, she gets this

527
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:15,760
like these people like, oh, let
me put on a fake smile and talk

528
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,840
to them.
It's so gross, but so well acted

529
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,320
in that part because it's true.
You you see these two faced

530
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,160
people all the time, like, you
know, on social media is one

531
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,600
thing, but in person you have
to, you know, put on a face

532
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,200
because you don't want to upset
anybody.

533
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,400
Gross.
So let's talk about the slugs

534
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,480
real quick, because I think they
look great.

535
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,760
I think they're like kind of
cute and like a terrifying way,

536
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,040
but also the stars and heroes of
this episode.

537
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,000
Well.
Yeah, that's my whole question

538
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,200
is where did they come from?
I.

539
00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:48,360
Don't know who cares?
I'm glad they destroyed the home

540
00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:49,320
world and they were like, you
know what?

541
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:50,680
We're going to go kill your
babies too.

542
00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:52,640
All those racist babies.
Kill them.

543
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,000
Because I mean, we have to
wonder if there is a history

544
00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,560
between the home, whatever this
race of people is called, and

545
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,640
these slugs.
Did they take over their home

546
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,040
world?
Did they push them out?

547
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,720
And now they're acting on
revenge it.

548
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,320
Is interesting to think that the
dots were in on it too so

549
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:14,360
whatever AI or whoever created
this thing decided to killed

550
00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:18,440
them right and or you know to
take out these people because it

551
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,480
seemed very much like the slugs
and the dots were in on it yeah

552
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,920
because they were going in
alphabetical order killing all

553
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,440
of them and from the dots to be
like oh we missed one in that

554
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,960
name OK let's go after this
thing It's it's interesting I

555
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,560
don't think we're ever really
going to know but from Doctor

556
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,080
Who unleashed they actually have
a name the slugs man trappers.

557
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,160
Man, they do.
They catch them, and they just

558
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,560
devour them, which is very cool.
I also think there's something

559
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:47,200
to be said about AI, right?
And so right now, AI is like in

560
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,600
a sort of a Gray area in a lot
of ways.

561
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,680
And in this particular episode,
the AI of the dot and bubble

562
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:58,160
learned that this race of people
was horrible and racist, and so

563
00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,520
they had to kill them.
Yeah.

564
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:01,840
So at least there's that.
Yeah, bye.

565
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,520
Long lives the slugs down with
fascism and racism.

566
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,680
I just love that.
I want somebody to make a poster

567
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,840
when they show the home world
there's that slug on the

568
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,160
building and everything's like
destroyed.

569
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:16,040
And I'm like, yeah, you go slug.
That slug's like, look at what

570
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,480
we've done.
Congratulations to us.

571
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,680
I love them so much.
They're the heroes of this

572
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:27,160
episode. 100%.
So the episode as a whole, it's

573
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,360
interesting because it's like, I
don't want to call it like a

574
00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:31,960
Doctor Light episode because he
was actually in it for quite a

575
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,280
bit.
But I think the function of it,

576
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:35,720
right, because this is his first
shoot.

577
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,640
He's still filming the last
season of Sex Education.

578
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,720
I think they did a good job of
still incorporating him as much

579
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:46,200
as possible into this episode
with it being on the FaceTime,

580
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,480
right?
It made more sense for the

581
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,840
episode.
It's short season.

582
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,600
So I'm like, please, from here
on out, like, let's stick with

583
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,880
the companion and Doctor because
I need a little more with both

584
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,680
of them.
Yeah, because I'm, I'm feeling a

585
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,200
little like, OK, I got to know,
you know, Ruby a little more,

586
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,280
but like, I know this Doctor,
but I want to see them together.

587
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,400
Like let me see them run around
together.

588
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,000
Yeah.
And I think that in our next

589
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,360
episode we're I think it would
be a disservice to the character

590
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,520
to not see him dealing with what
happened in this episode.

591
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:22,440
And so we need to see how Ruby
fits into that in trying to

592
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,640
maybe comfort hit him in some
way.

593
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,440
I I like this little detail in
the scene where it finally hits

594
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,480
them of like what's happening
and you can see Ruby get upset

595
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,000
before it like sets in with the
doctor.

596
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,040
And I don't know if this detail
was intentional, but it's like

597
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,920
she was raised by a black mother
and a grandmother.

598
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,880
And so I'm sure they had those
conversations with her and for

599
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,120
her to realize that.
And her first thing is to

600
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,560
comfort him, but also she lets
him have his anger and lets him

601
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,960
say what he wants to say, which
I think is very important.

602
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,480
And I liked that little detail
of it because it's it's about

603
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,320
him.
Like, let him deal with it in

604
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,880
whatever way he wants, but she's
there to comfort it.

605
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,360
I just want to give this doctor
a big hug after this episode.

606
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,800
Like, there's been so many
moments where there's shots of

607
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,680
him just crying or just in
distress.

608
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,640
And I'm like, I want to like,
hug you, please.

609
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:18,840
And it's, you know, and looking
at this doctor, he he feels like

610
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,160
the most exuberant, the most
joyous, the most smiley.

611
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,480
But yet he's been really put,
been put through some things in

612
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,720
these first few episodes that
are really just sort of breaking

613
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,240
down all of his natural
instincts.

614
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,520
Yeah.
And So what happens to a doctor

615
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,840
when the joy isn't there?
Yeah.

616
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,560
Let's let's give our final
thoughts on the end of the

617
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,800
episode because I feel like we
keep circling back to them.

618
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,120
So let's just give our final
thoughts on it, right?

619
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,120
So whenever they all are back
there and you know, Lindy's like

620
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,160
or whatever, like I thought I
blocked you or you know, he's

621
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,840
not as dumb as he looks at all
the microaggressions and things

622
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,160
directly to his face.
There is a line that that dude

623
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,640
that just volunteered to be the
leader of the thing.

624
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:03,160
He said something about he wants
to they want to fight, tame and

625
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,960
own the Wilds just like our
ancestors.

626
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,000
And I was like, but what?
What did you think about them

627
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:13,040
not showing the demise of them?
Like they're just going to go

628
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,880
off.
I'm trying to lean into sort of

629
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,120
this poetic ending or however
you want to call it, but I would

630
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:23,680
have even just have really liked
to even see them sailing out on

631
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,240
that boat and watching slugs
come up.

632
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,560
Not actually watching them be
devoured, but watching the slugs

633
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,360
follow them and knowing that
they're going to get them.

634
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,800
This sort of ambiguous, her just
looking at them and him looking

635
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,520
at her, that fell a little flat
for me personally.

636
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,440
I liked it on the doctor's side,
like her side.

637
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:41,840
I'm just like, don't look at
him.

638
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,360
You don't deserve to look at
him.

639
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,640
I don't mind it.
I'm I'm trying to find the

640
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,360
reason behind it.
But I think it's one of those

641
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,640
things where it's like, I guess
we could assume, right?

642
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,680
They can't do anything without
technology.

643
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,960
They can barely walk.
So I don't think they're going

644
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,520
to be able to survive out in the
Wilds.

645
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,240
But also it's that thing of
like, you know, they're talking

646
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,800
about their ancestors, what they
did before them.

647
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,960
And it's like, oh, you're just,
you literally got help by a

648
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,320
minority, right?
And then you're just going to go

649
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:17,080
out there and do the same thing.
Yeah, and I think it's kind of a

650
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,240
choice that we see sort of the
goodest one, right, Ricky

651
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,440
September, get a ball through
the head.

652
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:28,920
And then the most evil of them,
Lindy, we just see her sail off.

653
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,240
I think we can assume the ending
for them show.

654
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,400
Me the ending.
I want to watch her screaming

655
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,000
and getting eaten by a slug.
The slugs.

656
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,480
Are going to get them.
Absolutely.

657
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,400
They have to.
I mean we, we know we have to

658
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:46,400
think we have an army of balls
and an army of slugs that are

659
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,320
surely going to come out of the
Dome and get them good.

660
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,920
Yes, 100%.
But I wanted to see it.

661
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,800
So we're finally over.
Not finally, but we're actually

662
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,600
now over the halfway mark for
this season.

663
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,240
Do you have any thoughts of this
season so far?

664
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,200
Do you have any, like, hopes of
where it's going to go in the

665
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,400
last three episodes?
I think that it's I've enjoyed

666
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,240
it really going through these
five episodes.

667
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:14,600
I've enjoyed all the episodes.
I know in these last three, I

668
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,240
want to see us closing some of
these circles.

669
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,320
I want to see us answering some
of these questions.

670
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,480
Maybe not all of them, but I
really want to see why this

671
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,800
Doctor and why Ruby and this
companion are together on this

672
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,960
journey.
Yeah, agreed.

673
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,840
Yeah.
And the the next episode is

674
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,680
interesting.
I'm curious to see what that's

675
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,160
about.
Rogue Jonathan Groff is in it.

676
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,800
We're finally getting like a
proper, it seems like alien

677
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,840
society for a lot of this.
We've been on Earth, or like

678
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,680
Earth, like places with not many
aliens, you know, Which is

679
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,040
interesting for Doctor Who
because a lot of times it's like

680
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,560
you have the Cybermen, you have
the Centara, and you have all of

681
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:53,080
these.
People.

682
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,520
The Daleks.
I mean, I that is one thing I am

683
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,080
liking.
It's different, way different

684
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,840
that we haven't gotten any
standard like Doctor Who

685
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,960
villain.
So I'm curious when and if they

686
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,680
will show up.
But this next one seems fun.

687
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,520
Very Burgerton looks really gay.
Jonathan Groff and the Doctor.

688
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,400
Maybe some singing, Yeah.
So two thumbs up.

689
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:16,760
Yeah.
Hopefully, yeah.

690
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:21,840
I'm very excited for that one.
So that's coming out after it it

691
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,920
premieres.
I was like, what day is it?

692
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:26,800
No.
Friday.

693
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,000
Yeah, all.
Right.

694
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,440
So let us know what you thought.
dot and bubble.

695
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:34,960
Very curious to know your
thoughts.

696
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,320
Yeah, interesting episode.
Yeah, it was like pastel

697
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,360
terribleness.
Pastel racism?

698
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,239
Yeah, Welcome.
To America.

699
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,760
Space racism racism.
We just need the doctor instead

700
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,679
of space baby space racism.
Where's Captain Poppy when we

701
00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:52,000
need our?
That's right.

702
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,679
All right, till next time.
Bye.