June 10, 2025

Doctor Who Season 2 Review

Doctor Who Season 2 Review
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Doctor Who Season 2 Review

Grab your mug before it falls through the table it's time to review Doctor Who season 2! On the menu: Relying on nostalgia, Poppy, Mrs. Flood & the Rani, finale episode flops & wins, saying goodbye to Ncuti and more!

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(00:00) - Intro & Update

(01:10) - Interstellar Song Contest

(09:28) - The Finales & Ncuti’s Regeneration & Belinda

(18:57) - Relying on Nostalgia & Billie Piper Returning

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Knock, knock.
Who's there?

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Doctor Who?
Doctor Who?

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Who exactly?
Oh, stop.

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He's back, baby.
Hey everyone, I'm Derek.

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That's Noah.
Today we're talking about the

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rest of the episodes of Doctor
Who season 2, because if you

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listen to our episode covering
the rest of the episodes of the

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last of a season 2, you learned
that I had some health things

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going on.
But we're back, right?

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Yeah, yeah, we're back.
So we missed what, 3 episodes I

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think of Doctor Gates as far as
doing episode by episode.

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We so we're gonna just like what
we did with The Last of Us.

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We're going to regurgitate our
thoughts on Doctor Who season 2

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and and shooties goodbye to The
Who.

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Oh, thoughts and feelings they
all been just bottling up

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inside.
I can't wait to get them out.

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And I'm sure he can't wait to
hear me.

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That's a.
Surprising farewell for the

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season, we shall say.
Yeah, yeah.

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So spoiler ahead for Doctor Who
as a franchise and Season 2.

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All right, so let us officially
take a bite of Doctor Who Season

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2.
So we're going to start off with

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the Interstellar Song Contest,
which I thought was a really fun

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episode.
But I think I think it's a good

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idea to talk about that before
we get into the two parter

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finale.
Yeah, just gets so different.

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And, and obviously this was
perfectly timed.

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So if you're a fan of
Eurovision, you know about the

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Eurovision Song Contest.
And this was out the same

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weekend that that was.
And so it was like that was fun

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planning, I thought, on Doctor
Who production team's part.

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And this episode, I felt like
was solidly Whovian, right.

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It took place in space.
There were some new creatures

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introduced or aliens or, or
species introduced.

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And I think that it unearthed
some things about actually

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what's going on with Earth.
Yeah, just to.

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Say that just a little bit.
And we also got Dugadoo.

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That they were great and we also
got Graham Norton.

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Yeah, whole Graham Norton,
right, right.

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Yeah, I think I thought the
episode was really fun.

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I honestly think that some parts
of it acting wise and just

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production in the set with some
of the best of the season.

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I'm not I I think there's a
trend that that's happening a

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little bit in Russell G Davies 2
where the ideas are good, but

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some of the execution just isn't
as great.

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And I think particularly with
this episode, like, you know,

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everything that's happening in
Gaza and then having this

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episode with like, you know, you
have one genocide victim and

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another genocide victim talking
to each other.

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But then like the things that
the doctor does at the end, some

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of it just didn't land too great
as far as what I think.

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But as a whole, some of the best
visuals in this entire season.

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The unfortunate when everybody
gets launched up into space and

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that bubble.
I don't think who has looked

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that good and it's unfortunate
that their bodies being launched

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into space, but it looks so good
and the songs were fun.

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I think we could have used more
songs.

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I.
Agree.

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I agree, I mean it was fun that
we had our Co hosts.

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One of them was feline.
It was like a feline humanoid

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character, but and we definitely
needed more songs.

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It would have been more fun to
see more of the program because

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as we're watching the Doctor and
Belinda watch it, they're having

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such a good time watching it.
It would have been nice to be a

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part of that.
But I I absolutely see what you

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were saying.
I thought that it was

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interesting at the end of this
episode to see the Doctor be so

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intense and so kind of really
threatening to to the folks that

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took over the the Song Contest,
which we don't really see that

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often.
And for me, I mean, I kind of

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welcomed it a little bit.
It was nice to see a different

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side of the Doctor.
But I know for folks that are

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more like like yourself who have
really been with the series for

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a long time, it felt kind of
jarring.

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Yeah, well, I mean, the doctor's
rage is always a thing, right?

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But it's really on how they
contain it or deal with it or

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whatever in the situations that
they're in.

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And a lot of this, the ways that
they overcome things is non

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violence.
So to see the Doctor enact

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violence repeatedly was jarring
in that.

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Like there's things that make a
character and that's like one of

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the things that was like, I'm
not saying they can't.

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I think that there are
situations where it's warranted.

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I'm not too sure.
In that situation, it was like,

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I get it, a lot happened, right?
He thought he lost Belinda.

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He thought he lost all of these
people, and the Delta wave was

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going to wipe out pretty much
the whole western side of the

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Galaxy, I think they said.
So it's a lot, right?

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And it's getting flashbacks of
everything that happened to

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Gallifrey.
I don't know.

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It's just like you kind of wrote
the character to do that.

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So I'm not too sure how I feel
about it.

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I think that that part, if we
didn't have that, this episode

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may have landed a little better
for people, myself included.

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But I did think it was oddly
enough, fun.

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And some of the other
circumstances, you know, we got

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a queer couple in here that I
loved how they both kind of fell

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in love with the Doctor, that
they were an integral part to

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saving everybody.
So I think that there's some

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really high points in this
episode and some some low

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points.
Yeah, I was going to bring up

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that representation of the queer
couple as well.

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And I was trying to figure out
at the beginning of the episode,

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like where they were going to
fit into this whole thing.

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I thought that they were just
going to be annoyed that the

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doctor and Belinda took their
seats at the contest, but in

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reality, they were the ones that
were able to save everyone.

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I do think one of the important
things this episode is that

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little Graham Norton piece where
he lets us know that Earth no

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longer exists.
And so that is kind of, I don't

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honestly, I'm not sure if it
actually answers the big

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question mark of the season, but
it gave gives us a clue as to

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maybe why Belinda can't get
back.

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To Earth.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
I, I, I I'll say, yeah, I guess

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I'll save more of those thoughts
for like, when we get to the

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finale pieces of this episode.
It was one of those things we

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kind of could piece together of
like, OK, well, you can't get

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somewhere that doesn't exist,
right?

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So I guess that makes sense.
So when we saw this episode, we

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got the Screener for it.
And when the TARDIS explodes,

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that's where our episode ended.
We didn't get credits.

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We didn't get anything.
And I was like, this is weird.

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Nothing makes sense.
And then so when we were going

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to record it, which we didn't
get to.

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Thanks Derek, but.
I almost died, but then I.

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Saw I saw on Saturday, people
were talking about Misses Flood

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and I was like, what?
So then we had to wait.

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We had to wait.
And then we finally were able to

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watch it and I was like the
Ronnie interesting.

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So this entire time the big
revelation of who misses Flood

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is, and I think I did say that
back in season 1, I'm like,

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she's wearing the Ronnie's
outfit, that white outfit at the

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end of season 1, I was like,
that almost makes me think that

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it's her.
Turns out it is.

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So we got another by
regeneration, which is a little

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annoying.
I, I don't know if I like that

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thing that keeps happening.
I think the explanation that the

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Ronnie gives Archie's Ronnie is
that because they're all sterile

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and they can't reproduce, the
Time Lords Physiology is

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figuring out a way to reproduce,
and that's by by regeneration.

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They're like amoebas, yeah.
Basically I think it's fine as a

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one off as a 60th anniversary
special, but I'm not too sure I

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like that.
You know, the by regeneration

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doesn't bother me so much, but
in in general.

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But I think what bothered me
about this, and I feel like this

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is where things sort of fell
apart for the rest of the

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season, is that Missus Flood was
our big almost villain that was

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going through season 1 and
season 2, especially in season

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2.
And then once the by

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regeneration happens, she
becomes a lackey of the Ronnie.

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And so that for me feels like,
why did we build this character

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up so long for her to just
become someone second in

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command?
Yeah, I think when that had

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happened, I I believe that was
one of the things that we had

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talked about when we saw it.
I was like, that's weird that

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she's like subservient to
Archie's the Ronnie.

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I think that's my issue with by
regeneration, right?

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It's like you are the same
person.

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You just kind of split and then
from that split, you're almost

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different, right?
Because we have 14 and 15.

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They're different, but they're
the same.

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I just think it complicates
things unnecessarily.

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And then to your point, it's
like we've had two seasons of

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this character of like, who is
she?

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What is she going to do?
And then for her to just be,

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I'll get those numbers for you,
I'll report this for you and

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then dip out at the end.
Is the signs of too much stuff

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was happening in a show or a
story and they just didn't know

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how to execute it well or finish
the story?

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Yeah.
And kind of going along those

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lines now.
Correct me if I'm wrong, he the

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doctor begins having flashbacks
to or or flash forwards or

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visions of Susan his his
grandchild, right?

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And that also felt like it
didn't go anywhere for me

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either.
So it was like this Interstellar

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Song Contest episode gave us
some things that didn't seem to

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really pan out in the final two
episodes of the season.

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Yeah.
So I mean, I guess, yeah, let's

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let's go to like, I, I guess we
can call this not even just the

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finale, right?
Or season 2.

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It's just kind of Anchuti's run.
I would say I very disappointed.

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I think, you know, not to skip
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wasn't regenerating, you know,
there was whispers that it was

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going to happen.
There was rumors.

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It kind of felt like it was
going that way oddly in the

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finale.
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I got physically upset of him
regenerating.

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regenerating.

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Mostly it was because I felt
like he deserved better.

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And I was.
So I loved this Doctor.

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I loved Anshuti as the Doctor.
And it just time and time again

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when it felt like, oh, this is
the Doctor.

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Like we're finally getting to
know something about the Doctor.

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Something odd in the story
happens or like it kind of

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changes.
And this just felt like such a

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short just cut off with the
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So it made me very upset that
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of their the end of their run or

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the season, it just didn't
really land then.

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I think that's the nicest way I
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Because you had Omega, you had
the two Ronnies, you had Poppy

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being very important.
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Susan was teased, but you don't
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Belinda's story kind of just
gets rewritten oddly and then us

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as an audience is almost gas lit
into thinking that, oh, this

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whole time she was looking for,
she just wanted to go back home

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to her child.
That's fine.

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There was no indication of that.
So it was just a lot of weird

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big ideas that again, didn't
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idea that this was the end of

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Anshuti's run as the Doctor.
And I, I think one of the things

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that is so upsetting to me is
that it didn't feel like a

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natural end at all.
And watching that final episode,

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I didn't think like, oh, this is
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This is their final moment.
They kind of came to do what

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they had to do and it's over it
it it felt like it was tacked on

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to the end of the episode, this
random scene of him by himself

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in the TARDIS and he's ready to
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And it just felt so unexpected.
And it felt like the story was

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clothed very unnaturally.
And to me, that's what it felt

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like with Belinda.
It felt like they really didn't

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know where they were going with
her or they were going to a

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different destination.
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reason, they needed to change
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Belinda as a character.
What I was most excited for

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Belinda was that she was so she
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and she didn't necessarily want
to be on this journey and she

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just wanted to get back home.
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a companion who almost felt like
they had a little more free will

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in this entire thing.
And then for it to just boil

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down to something completely
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I mean by I would say Episode 3,
she's not really that.

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She's not pushing as much to get
back home.

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Yeah, I think like as the
episodes went on, because, you

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know, there is that fantastical
element of like, I get to travel

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space and time, and I could
possibly just go right back to

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my life when I left.
Cool.

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That's always like the thing
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right?
I would say that's true.

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Like as episodes went on because
stuff started happening.

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So it's like, do we really want
to spend time with her being

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obsessed?
She's not home yet, come to find

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out is that she had a daughter.
And like, so it's like, oh, she

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should have been a little more,
but that's the gaslighty thing

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of like the universe was off by
smidge and then you smash them

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together.
I don't fully understand it.

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I think the thing that for me
that's really upsetting with

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her, like not even just her
story in general, I think her

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character completely changed.
I think kind of what you're

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saying, like how she's, you
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She is that reluctant companion,
the one that could tell the

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Doctor, no, like, are you
scanning my DNA without

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permission?
It wasn't the Belinda that we

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started with.
And that's when you can tell,

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oh, something behind the scenes
happened.

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I don't want to like, add to
that fire.

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Who really knows?
Aside from the people that did

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those decisions and shoot Dee
and also do Davies and all of

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them, there's things that you
can clearly tell from like

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interviews and just production
stuff that there was a reshoot

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that happened at the house that
Belinda had those final scenes

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with way after the fact when
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So it does seem that like maybe
his regeneration was out of

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nowhere and it was supposed to
continue.

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You know, maybe we'll find out
at some point, but it's just

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unfortunate.
Yeah, I, I.

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Mean, I think another
unfortunate thing, like, sorry,

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we're being so down on the dumps
over here, but another

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character, Ruby.
I but yeah, I mean, I agree.

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I think like in wish world, Ruby
was like not like it was kind of

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an odd whatever.
And then like, oh, in the

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reality war when she, I don't
know, just like let Connor off.

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I would have just punched the
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Like, come on.
Yeah, that was like, we could,

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we could, you know, let her
punch somebody.

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Yeah, it should have been Conrad
and the whole Conrad.

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Conrad, Yeah.
And the whole Conrad's like,

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let's try and just wrap our
minds around that for a second

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of just.
Conrad is kept in a room telling

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stories to people with the baby
and he created a dinosaur world

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like.
Like what?

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I mean, I think again, it works

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if it wasn't coupled with the
Pantheon, the Ronnies, Omega

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Belinda's story.
Poppy, Susan, Ruby kind of out

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of nowhere again, right.
Other Susan.

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Oh yeah, she was there.
Yeah.

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I think there was just too much.
And it was oh, whatever, I'm

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just going to have an exposition
dump that Ronnie did it a few

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times and it was like, OK,
that's fine.

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Like Doctor Who has a lot of
exposition.

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It's a lot of conversations, but
they're clever conversations and

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they're conversations that you
you want to hear again and

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again, or you're like, that's
really clever.

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Like how they figured this out
or the explanation of this.

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But when it kept happening in
these finales, I was like, oh,

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you're just telling us
information that you should

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have.
Like, it should have been

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conveyed, but it can't be
conveyed.

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So now the villain has the
monologue.

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Yeah.
I it just.

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Yeah.
Again, it just too much stuff.

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Too many ingredients in the pot
just didn't pay off.

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Should we talk about the rogue?
Oh, come on.

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Yeah, OK, OK.
I I do want to add some

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positives to this.
OK, looks great.

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Yes, the music was banging,
banging performances fantastic.

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I want to say Jodie Whitaker
showing up, giving our doctor

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that like send off.
Oh, it was beautiful, so

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beautiful.
What other doctor could have

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done that for Anchuti?
But Jodie Whitaker's doctor,

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God, I miss her so much too.
Like I just wanted more of them

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together.
And it it does feel oddly

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comforting to have both of these
doctors in a way have like a

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send off as much as we could get
it because I feel like both of

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them got shit for being the
doctor one but also didn't get

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their full potential.
Jodie's ended with a six episode

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special essentially and shooties
got cut short.

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It's very obvious it got cut
short.

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So to have both of them, I don't
know, send off with each other

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was was kind of nice.
You know, I wish you would have

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just gone and told Yaz, I love
you should have done it.

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So maybe in the reality that got
shifted back to normal, maybe

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she did tell him, but her words
to him of saying, you know, just

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go in there with the smile that
you have.

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Oh, it's so good.
And it's like those little

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moments like when I think about
this whole thing, this mess of a

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finale, that's the moment I
think of.

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I'm like, it wasn't worth it for
that.

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But I was like that just there's
glimmers of like, guys, we could

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do this, it's right there.
Come on.

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I need to know what happens down
that one hallway of the TARDIS

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where like people just pop out
of it and like or like they

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change costumes and stuff.
There's a whole episode that

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takes place like all in the
TARDIS and I, I think it's Matt

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Smith in the Ponds and there's
like a swimming pool in there.

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Like it's just, it's crazy the
amount of space that this TARDIS

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has.
I'll I'll have you watch it at

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some point.
It's super fun.

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I mean, I do.
I do agree though.

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Like even though I thought the
wish World episode was hella

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confusing, I loved the look of
it.

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Kind of this retro 50s and 60s
vibe.

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Just the even just the houses,
the the dress, the costumes.

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I even loved the bins that they
had out front where they threw

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their cups out right?
That felt like that stuff felt

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so clever.
So clean, so cool, looked so

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crisp.
I love the bright colors of

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everything, but the story itself
just seemed a little all over

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the place.
I liked Anita being involved

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with the Time Hotel.
I not sure that's how the time

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Hotel worked originally, but I
liked the use of it here and

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bring that character from
Moffett's our our favorites

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Christmas special or holiday
special.

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Hey, Joy came back to come on.
Joy's always back.

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Joy is a star, baby.
Yeah, I mean, I'm.

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I'm not too sure what else.
Like, I I think Anshuti deserved

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more.
I think a lot of people deserve

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more.
This story oddly feels like it

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was originally meant to be
something else and then just

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completely changed.
It's unfortunate.

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I.
Think that's the bottom line is

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I think the thing that is most
upsetting here is that there was

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an opportunity to do something
really fantastic and it flopped.

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I think that it almost, upon
reflection, felt like they knew

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they could do something really
fantastic.

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They had all the tools, but they
just fell back.

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But unfortunately, it didn't
mesh.

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Things that they used to do
didn't mesh with the things that

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they were trying to do.
Yeah, and there there is a

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problem with Russell G Davies in
the first season in this one of

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relying on nostalgia.
There was something that he

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said, I it's an interview.
I can't remember where he did

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it.
You can find it where he talked

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about how this is like changing
and it's new and like, it should

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be for new people to just come
in here and watch it and like

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not rely on blah blah, blah.
But it's like both end villains

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from both of these seasons are
classic who characters that

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people outside of the UK can't
even watch 'cause there's

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legally nowhere to watch them.
So there's a lot of like relying

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on nostalgia.
David Tennant coming back.

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Great for 60th with the nobles.
It was so worth it.

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The Wild Blue Yonder is one of
the my favorite episodes of who.

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I love that so much.
But to bring Billie Piper back

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as the regenerated form of
whatever that means.

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Because it's not Rose.
I'm hoping it's not Rose.

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It's the face of Rose.
I don't understand I I'm very

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confused.
I'm so confused.

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I wish I was happy.
I I think it's weird.

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There's other words I want to
use, but I don't want.

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I love this franchise so much.
And it's like, I don't want to

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say desperate, but it feels
desperate, right?

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I don't understand.
And the unfortunate thing is

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there's at this moment, there's
no like Doctor Who's going to

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come back.
We don't know when what's BBC

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and Disney going to do?
So whatever happens, that could

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just be forgotten about, like,
oh, Billy coming back, like they

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just needed to put somebody
there and Billy Piper was the

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person or it's going to be Billy
Piper for like a special and

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then to the next person.
Literally what I was going to

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say.
It's going to be another

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Christmas special, Christmas
special.

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It's going to be the Christmas
special, they're going to buy

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Regenerate again and then it'll
be the new person.

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Regenerate, I swear to God.
No more by regenerations.

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No, no, no.
I'm.

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Done by.
It's by regeneration.

408
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No, I can't no more.
It's confusing.

409
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It doesn't make sense.
How about this?

410
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Because one of the best actors
to come out of this season was

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Baby Poppy.
Well, OK, so like the whole, I

412
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:54,360
honestly, sorry, I, I, I
honestly was on board with Poppy

413
00:21:54,360 --> 00:21:58,880
being the doctor's daughter.
I'm like cool, OK, cuz Susan is

414
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a granddaughter.
Direct Line.

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00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,120
We got it.
We know nothing about his

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family.
And then for them to like

417
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,960
rewrite it cuz the realities
were off and they had to put it

418
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,840
back together.
Man, I had such hope.

419
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:15,080
It was like, that is so cool.
Yeah, totally down with it.

420
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,520
Taken away from us.
But in all seriousness though,

421
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,320
Oh my gosh.
Reacting to everything, blowing

422
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:25,880
kisses.
She was adorable.

423
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,080
I think they should make her.
They should make a spin off

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00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,360
series called Baby Doctor and
it's starring Poppy.

425
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:31,640
Yes, please.
Right.

426
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,440
Yes, I would like you.
Yeah.

427
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One of the scenes that I think
is a stand out, at least for the

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finale, aside from and Chuti not
falling out of the TARDIS and

429
00:22:42,120 --> 00:22:45,240
just floating majestically with
the giant beams of regeneration,

430
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,680
is the scene when Poppy
disappears.

431
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,240
And you have Ruby, Belinda and
the Doctor and the TARDIS and

432
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:53,600
they're passing your coat back
and forth.

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00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,720
And it gets smaller and smaller
and the conversation of Poppy

434
00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,040
gets further and further away
and then the crib disappears.

435
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,960
And to have Ruby be like, why is
nobody remembering Poppy?

436
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,760
Which they never answer on why
Ruby can remember things.

437
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,400
Maybe it's for the next season
if we get one, but I just love

438
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,200
that scene so much.
It was just such a masterful way

439
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,040
to explain something that's
happening with it getting

440
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,840
smaller and smaller and then it
disappears.

441
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:24,520
But I think that that is then
when everything changed, because

442
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,400
there's a point in when Ruby is
like, where's Poppy, blah, blah

443
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,840
blah, and the doctors kind of
sidestepping it anytime Ruby

444
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,720
says anything.
And he winks at Ruby and he

445
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,760
looks a little sad.
So it's almost like he

446
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:42,240
remembers, but he doesn't want
Belinda to remember, and so he

447
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:46,360
kind of wants it to to go away.
And then we get the ending we

448
00:23:46,360 --> 00:23:47,920
got.
So that's when I think it

449
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,000
changed.
What do you think it like?

450
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,240
What do you think it could have
been?

451
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,840
Well, I think Poppy disappearing
and then rewriting the realities

452
00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:01,520
that it's Belinda's child
because we Belinda thinks Poppy

453
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,560
is her child.
It could be, I don't know, like

454
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,320
from Wish world, she's like, I
believe it and I feel like it's

455
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:11,000
my child, so she's my child.
And they made it such a big part

456
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,120
of that Wish World episode to
make sure that Poppy survived

457
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,280
and then she didn't.
But I, I do agree that that

458
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,000
scene of them passing the code
back and forth, that was showing

459
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,400
us, not telling us, right?
We're seeing the literal

460
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,120
manifestation of them forgetting
Poppy.

461
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:31,480
So yeah, I just think overall, I
mean the season overall, it felt

462
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,680
like there were some high
points, but a lot of it felt a

463
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,560
little confusing and it felt
like they weren't really sure

464
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:38,960
what they were doing the whole
time.

465
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,920
And you know, the season it it
it started off really strong.

466
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,240
We got the robot revolution, we
got Lux, we had the well, like

467
00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:50,440
just such huge good episodes.
And then I think it fell into

468
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,360
this weird trap of like, we have
to have this huge overarching

469
00:24:54,360 --> 00:24:58,040
story, but with like multiple
overarching stories and it just

470
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,320
couldn't really find its
footing.

471
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,880
I think going forward, like if
Russell G Davies wants to stay

472
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,280
on it, look, I'm very grateful
that they brought Who back in

473
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,320
2005, and I think they've done
some good stuff with this one.

474
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,080
But I think they just need to
get fresh and new writers.

475
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,480
They need to get new people in
here and like, just leave the

476
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,760
classic stuff in the past.
Let's stop reusing people just

477
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,360
to get people to watch it, you
know, create a good story and

478
00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:29,000
people will come.
Don't rely on David Tennant's

479
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,320
face or Billie Piper's face to
bring people in because Anchuti

480
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,320
brought people.
You know, how many times, like

481
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,640
on social media when Anchuti was
announced as a Doctor because

482
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,640
sex education, because Anchuti
was getting so popular, people

483
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,000
were like, oh, maybe I should
start watching this.

484
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,840
Like, you don't need to do that,
You know what I mean?

485
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,960
So I don't know.
I hope that whatever form Doctor

486
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,840
Who comes back, and I hope it
does come back, but, you know,

487
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,360
we get something better and more
deserving.

488
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,400
You know, I'm just sad that we
don't have Anchuti, you know,

489
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,960
this wonderful queer actor and
this huge franchise with such a

490
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,520
win.
And do better next time, I'd

491
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:09,440
say.
Yeah.

492
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,920
But let's know what you thought.
Did you enjoy it?

493
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,320
Are you hopeful for the next
Doctor?

494
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,320
Who do you want as the next
Doctor?

495
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,400
Better not be Billie Piper.
Listen, all I can say is listen

496
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,000
to Billie Piper's debut album
from the early 2000s 'cause that

497
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,680
shit slaps, yeah, and.
Her as Rose is amazing, we don't

498
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,760
need her back.
I've been missing you.

499
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,000
Oh, so good.
Honey did the bee.

500
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,440
Oh.
So good.

501
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,000
All right.
Well, TARDIS noise fade out.

502
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,520
Yes.
Bye.