'Doctor Who' The Story and The Engine Review | Season 2 Episode 5

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Upon watching this episode I
feel very relieved because often

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when I'm watching TVI say which
victim am I in this story but

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because I am bald I no longer
have to go get my haircut so I

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am safe.
So please start thinking of

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stories for yourself.
I'm Derek.

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That's Noah, and this is a bite
of And today we are talking

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about Doctor Who Season 2
Episode 5.

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Here we go more than halfway
through the season, Sir.

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Man, now I can actually hold up
a 5.

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That's right.
I don't know numbers.

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I never claimed to be a
mathematician.

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So, you know, here we are.
Yes, we are.

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Three episodes.
Yeah, I think 3 episodes away

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from the finale of Doctor Who or
the third episode of This is the

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finale.
You know, feelings, thoughts.

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We got them for the 5th episode.
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Do all those wonderful, amazing
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But yeah, let's get into it.
Spoilers The latest episode of

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Doctor Who.
Let us officially take a bite of

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Doctor Who Season 2 Episode 5,
The Story and the Engine,

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written by Inua Alams and
directed by Michaela McPherson.

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The Doctor and Belinda land in
Nigeria where the Doctor goes to

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visit an old friend.
He finds a cryptic sign telling

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him to turn back.
Once he enters a barbershop, he

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is trapped with a group of
missing men who must tell

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stories in order to power a
mysterious engine.

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So Sir, what did you think of
Episode 5?

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I think this episode is very
different and pushes a lot of

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new concepts for Doctor Who.
I really enjoyed it.

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I love exposition heavy
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I think the performances were
off the charts here and I really

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appreciated them.
And not that we need to focus on

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oh the doctor's a woman, oh, the
doctor's a person of color, Oh

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the doctor's a queer person, the
person that's playing them,

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right.
But I like that they acknowledge

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it and especially telling
stories of Nigerian roots with

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an actor that is Nigerian, I
think is awesome.

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And this is the things that I
love about Doctor Who.

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Like I don't think we've ever
had a story set in Nigeria for

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Doctor Who.
So it's just, it's great, right?

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I think with it being exposition
heavy, it's going to divide

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people that some people might
think it's slow, some people

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aren't.
I like it, some people will

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think it's amazing.
So that's what Doctor Who's

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about, right?
You like some, you don't like

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some, but here we are.
Yeah, I, I think this, I think

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this was an interesting episode.
Like you said, you brought up so

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many positives about this.
I think the costuming, the sets,

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the way that they told the
stories within this episode were

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really, really strong.
But what's so interesting is

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that I think part of the
storytelling wasn't actually

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that strong within of the
episode, meaning I think that

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the first half of this episode
was really great and I think it

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kind of got a little cumbersome
a little bit.

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It fell apart in the
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So it it's kind of 5050 for me.
Not that I thought that it was

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terrible, but looking at it from
like a reviewer standpoint, I

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think that there were some
things they could have done to

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either tighten it up or maybe
let it breathe a little more.

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Yeah, I yeah, I think it, the
concepts and the story itself

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was bigger than one episode.
And it's hard to really do a

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beginning and an end with
something that seems this big

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and a lot of twists and turns in
this episode.

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I feel that.
I think I just liked it a lot,

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but I wanted more.
And it's going to be one of

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those episodes where I have to
watch it a few times to fully

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understand it because we watch
we watch the Screener and really

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haven't had time to like, watch
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And I feel like a second watch
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And I'm not sure if that's a
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again, I enjoyed it, but I can
see where it's like that.

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Wait, what?
That's kind of confusing.

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Or like, how did we, what are we
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But I think the concept of
powering an engine with stories,

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sitting in the Barber chair,
having you tell a story and if

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it's a good story, powering the
engine, we're good to go.

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We get the green light.
If it's not, we can't power the

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engine.
I think is such a cool concept

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and just like you said, this
showing the stories through that

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painting and through those
images was just just added a

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layer to it.
Yeah, I think there's an

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interesting question at the
heart of this of what makes a

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good story, right?
What makes the engine go green?

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What is it about these stories?
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Is it how personal it is?
And, you know, these men that

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are trapped there, they're
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out of stories.
And the interesting thing is, is

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because they're trapped there,
they might at some point run out

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of them because they're not out
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So there's a bit of a conundrum
in here of of these stories.

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But you know, so much in I think
our lives is, is is the value

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and the power of stories.
I'm going to step up my

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librarian soapbox here.
Just this week, Doctor Carla

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Hayden was fired from being the
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And the reasoning that was given
was that she was doing too much

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work with DEI and putting
dangerous books on the shelves

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in the children's sections.
So which we know this is

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probably stories about BIPOC
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And so there's the power of
stories there and how the regime

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that is running this country
right now is afraid of those

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stories, right?
So I think, although that's not

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necessarily what's being said in
this episode, there is the power

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of stories and how there is such
power educating people.

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But what's really cool about
this is that this whole setting

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of taking place in this
barbershop.

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So the writer of this episode,
Inua Alam, is is of Nigerian

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descent and wrote a play called
The Barbershop Chronicles that

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really centers on the a
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and the relationship a Barber
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they come in and tell them
stories.

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And so it's such a central part
of of our episode here.

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But of course, you know, after
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patrons supposed to be able to
leave the barbershop, which is,

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of course, not what happens
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But I did love Wheat.
So we have this mysterious

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Barber figure here.
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was the trimmer that he had and
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And I thought that was such a
cool thing and how they really

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zoomed in on that mask, on that
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So how did you feel about the
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Yeah, I, I, well, I think the
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The Barber is an interesting
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walked away being like, wait,
who was he?

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And maybe that was the point,
because the at one point the

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Barber, when questioned, says,
I'm Loki, I'm Dionysus, I am

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Anansi.
I'm all of these things, these

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pretty much these tricksters,
these storytellers, right,

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People that are known for lying
or, you know, dealing with

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consumption of things to, I
don't know, exaggerate

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something.
I think that's really

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interesting.
And we do find out that it was

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just a demigod that was scorned
by the gods and took what they

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made and wanted to get revenge
on them, right.

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I thought that was really cool.
The detail with the the tremors,

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awesome because it adds kind of
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Doctor Who is very much leaning
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Ever since 14 did the salt at
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kind of made things a little
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So I like that they're leaning
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Do I think that we will see more
of this Barber?

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Maybe.
I think it would be cool.

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There's a lot to explore here
because there's multiple

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characters are intertwined with
this, but I think this is the

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most we've heard about gods
outside of like the pantheon.

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And so we can assume that all of
the gods are a real thing

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because the Doctors actually
interacted with some of them.

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So I don't know, it has a lot of
interesting implications.

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I think this is a closer to also
I think this is the closest to

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Chibbles era, the one that did
Jodie Whittaker that we've

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gotten so far like outside of.
His era, I did think it was fun

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to hear of the doctors stories
of partying with all of those

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gods you know, and so when you
are a being that can transcend

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time and space, you're going to
have run insurance with these

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guys and I and I liked that it
was also gods from all different

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cultures, right.
Not saying that you know, one

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set of gods is the real gods,
but doctor has been able to

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party with all of them.
What a wildlife, the doctor

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leads.
There's one thing that I think

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is because the stories and
everything that's a big central

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part of this, of this episode,
the one of the, the Barber, the

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person that owns the shop, Oma,
he tells the story of the

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doctor.
And it very much seems like a

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story that people would tell
about a God or something like

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that.
And the way that the doctor

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almost when they're when he
finds out that they're trying to

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defeat the gods or like he's
trying to get revenge on them,

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which would essentially erase
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It's it's a weird thing because
it almost feels like and shooty

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is or the doctor, I should say,
is almost like, that's me too.

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Like what am I without my
stories?

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And so there's this weird
parallel between like, is this

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like a complex the doctor has or
it's just just something that's

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really close and dear to their
heart?

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Like do they also need the
stories for them to live on

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because they're forever living
at this point?

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I think it's an interesting
concept to to think about like

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the doctors almost paralleling
these gods themselves.

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We still don't know who the
Timeless children are.

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We still don't know all of that.
So like, where did the doctor

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actually come from?
I think it's, I don't know,

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maybe keep our eyes out on that.
And even in that story, so I

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know that you said that they
have released that story.

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I haven't read it, but in what
is described in this episode, it

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does feel like he's a God,
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The whole the whole village is
on fire.

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He comes down in his blue box.
He pulls out a hose.

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He puts out all the fire.
And then he's like, love you

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guys, see you later, you know?
So he's there.

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He's a savior in that moment.
So that's something that, yeah,

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he does feel like very much a
powerful God who they talk about

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in legend, in myth.
And when will he return to save

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them?
Not to not to pat myself on the

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back or but early in the early
aughts of a bite of we used to

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have special segments.
And there was the Oh my

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trickster God segment, which was
when we covered Loki.

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So if you want to hear about
more Trickster gods, please by

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all means go back and listen to
that season.

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What a throwback.
We used to do the special

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segments at the end of the
episodes just for fun.

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Just for funsie.
You would listen to us for over

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an hour and it'd be like, wait,
one more thing that has there's

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nothing.
I mean, I don't think anything

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will ever be.
There's another edition of Bird

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Facts, but.
I still think about that every

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time.
Yeah, so I I do like the

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addition of I don't I just think
that whole scene with when he's

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lying to them, obviously, but
saying how he's all these

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different gods and just the
transitions between those gods

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and what they look like.
It's just amazing.

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The visuals again, I can't I
can't praise them enough in the

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season.
I think that they're really

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going all out in some of this.
And next next episode, the Song

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Intergalactic or Interstellar
Song Contest looks to be another

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stunning episode.
Yeah, that's going to be really

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cool.
But kind of talking about the

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doctor's relationship even more,
we have a character here named

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Abena who we learn is, I believe
the daughter of Anansi the

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spider, who's a trickster God.
And you know, another thing that

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we have seen, I think, within
these last two seasons is how

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the Doctor affects the lives of
those around him.

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And so Abena has a chip on her
shoulder against the Doctor

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because she was left behind.
I would say more of a like a, a

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vendetta, A vendetta or just, I
don't know, just.

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She's mad.
Yeah, she's mad.

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And so we see the doctor in that
moment when he realizes who she

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is, kind of going through that
feeling of here's another life I

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have affected and not
necessarily in a positive way.

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And then we get a glimpse of the
fugitive Dr. Yeah, I this is

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interesting and I, I don't know
if we'll ever get the answer to

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this.
Or maybe it's in the Unleashed

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episode or something.
So the fugitive Dr. played by

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Joe Martin.
I love the future to Doctor

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Doctor so much.
I'm a big fan of the Jodie

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Whittaker era of the chibble
era.

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Of course there's things that
changed everything, but I think

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Doctor Who needs to, I don't
know, challenge itself and

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expand its boundaries.
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The Doctor changed, so should
the story.

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Do I agree with everything?
No, but I really like the

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fugitive Dr. And with the
addition of the Timeless Child,

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essentially meaning that the
Doctor has had more lives than

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we know, right?
We thought there was only 13 or

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15 or whatever it is, and they
could only regenerate 12 or 13

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times.
But it turns out the Time Lords

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were the ones that stole that
genetic trait from the Doctor.

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But when we find the fugitive
Dr., that's when we realize, oh,

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so does this Doctor like was the
fugitive Dr. before Artno, which

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is the very first Doctor?
It seems to be, yes.

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So with the Doctor not knowing
the other lies prior to

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Hartnell, Jodie Whitaker and all
of that, it begs questions of

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like, oh, so do they now
remember it?

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remember Abby here and being the

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fugitive Doctor because they're
in this story engine?

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Like, was it a situational
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I think there are some weird
questions and they're playing

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with like we're kind of soft
retconning it or not is to be

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seen.
But I just as soon as Joe

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Martin's face came on that
screen, I was like, yes, it's

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just so cool.
So, so cool.

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Yeah, I, I really enjoyed that,
where we're kind of behind a

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bana and we're looking at
Anshuti and then as it pans

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over, it goes to one side,
there's Joe and then it comes

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back to Anshuti.
So, you know, it really is

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showing that they are 1, you
know, in a way, and that their

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memories are a part of each
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So yeah, that was, that was a
really cool part.

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But I think if you're looking at
it from a like the world and the

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universe of Doctor Who, there
are definitely some questions

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there.
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And I like that they almost
explained to that because Abena

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is very much like you left me.
And it's one of those things

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that we have seen a Doctor Who
before of like the forgotten

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companion or the person that was
left behind or the mistake that

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the doctor did.
And I like to the line of the

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fugitive Dr. saying like I was a
fugitive, but like I was already

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in another story like that might
another story was happening and

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I, I couldn't, you know.
So I, I'm curious if we'll, I

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believe she says a line of
something like has yet to be

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told or like maybe we'll find
out.

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And I'm wondering if it's going
to be in a Big Finish audio

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story or will we see it again?
They could very much, hey, do a

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whole series of just showing
what happened with future to

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Doctor.
I would be down with it.

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But yeah, I think it was a fun
episode for Easter eggs for fans

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of the show.
Not only that, but we saw all

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the other incarnations of the
Doctor again, another weird

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parallel from last season to
now, when in the Rogue episode

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we saw all of his faces.
This episode we see his faces

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again.
But I did like that this episode

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was very much a black cast
outside of flashbacks or TV

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screens.
So I I, I like that.

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I, I think again, adding the
fugitive Dr. here is

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acknowledging that the chibble
stuff happened.

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How far it will go, I don't
know.

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We'll see.
One of the things that I was a

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little disappointed in this
episode and I I'm still hoping

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will change that.
At the beginning of this season,

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I was really hoping that Belinda
would be a more actionable

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character.
And, and in this episode we

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don't even again, it's the role
of the companion, I guess, is to

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follow the Doctor and do
whatever the Doctor's doing.

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And so, you know, she's always,
she's just kind of taking orders

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from him.
She's running after him.

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But when he leaves her behind
initially when they land in

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Nigeria.
And so she is in the TARDIS and

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we're seeing the TARDIS react to
the barbershop engine, which is

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something interesting as well,
right?

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Because for the TARDIS to be
mimicking something outside of

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it, like, what does that mean?
What does that connection mean?

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I don't, I'm not sure.
I don't know.

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I don't know if it was just like
an added effect or added mystery

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or we'll never get acknowledge
it again, because I don't think

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Belinda even mentioned it.
Maybe she did to the Doctor.

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Like the TARDIS was acting weird
so that's why it came out.

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I don't know.
I, I, it was weird that anytime

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the barbershop door opens that
then the TARDIS would act funny.

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Maybe they're connected somehow,
because at the end, in the

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climax of this, the Doctor is
very much connected to the story

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engine and their story alone
could power this entire thing,

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which I think is just a fun, I
don't know, like a heart warming

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thing with the Doctor.
Like they've lived so many

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lives, they have so many stories
to tell that they could just

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power an entire interweb, you
know, on the side of like

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Belinda.
I, I agree with you, but I also

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don't only in that this is kind
of the role of the companion.

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And I do think that this episode
was very much for Anshuti, very

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much for this Doctor.
But I did like that they were

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able to find a way for Belinda
to be involved in this, in that

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talking to Abina and saying hurt
people hurt people.

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And that flips kind of, Oh, OK.
So I shouldn't just be festering

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in my hate for my father or for
the Doctor hearing what the

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doctor had to say and that they
wish they could have taken them

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with them.
And yeah, my, my father hurt me,

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but maybe I should stop hurting
people and be good.

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So I, I do like that.
Like, she kind of came in and

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was like, hey, by the way, maybe
you should just, like, be nice.

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Then this guy does like, you
know what?

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You're fucking right.
Yeah.

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Totally.
But also just I honestly like, I

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love the story of the doctor in
the blue box and putting out the

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fires and everything.
Belinda's story was so heart

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warming and also so sad.
I just again, the power of a

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story that was such a simple
story.

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And the doctor talks about like,
you don't need these big things.

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You just the an ordinary life is
some of the best stories.

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And that was just such good
storytelling.

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And that she's trying to go to
her, her gran's birthday and she

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has to stop.
And this doctor's not listening

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to her.
And it's like, OK, you want to

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fix it.
It's your story.

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But then she ended up saving
this woman's life and this woman

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came back and was like, thank
you.

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It's just, it's so good, that
little moment.

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Yeah, and I think we see that
often nurses are the unsung

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heroes, right, of the medical
profession.

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And so that is very much
illustrated in this.

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And like you're saying that, you
know, the doctor tells this what

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can be deemed as an ordinary
story of an ordinary person's

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life, but it's still powerful
enough to charge this engine,

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right and make it move forward.
And I think that, you know, I

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guess that is part of the magic
of Belinda.

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I do like that she still had
very much is seen as a valuable

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figure whether she's in the
TARDIS or at home and and I

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think that's why I want her to
have more moments in in this

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season.
Do you think I I almost feel

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this way a little bit?
Not to say Doctor Who usually

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doesn't have like a series or
even season long arc of like a

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story.
A lot of times I feel like in

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the past it's been like kind of
something that's like kind of

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snaked its way to the finale.
I think with it, starting with

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this big mystery of Belinda and
like, can't get her back home.

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I think sometimes it's hard for
us to be like, I like the things

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that are happening and I like
these stories that we're getting

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because that's Doctor Who,
right?

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Landing somewhere, story
happens, go somewhere else.

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But I think what I'm feeling
with this Belinda stuff is love

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everything about the actor and
the character.

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But like, he went out, put the
vindicator down, done.

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And then it was almost like, OK,
now we're getting a Song

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Contest, which obviously the
vindicator is going to come out.

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It's going to do its thing,
right?

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But almost like, I know there's
a rush, but sometimes it doesn't

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feel like it.
And that's just because of the

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nature of the show.
So I don't know if it was a good

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thing or a bad thing for us to
start that way.

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But I am feeling very much like,
how is this story going to like

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actually give room for it to
breathe when we're like not

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really dealing with it only in
the aspects of Belinda be like,

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when am I going home?
And then it goes into the story

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of the episode.
So I don't know, I think there

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is some weird structural things,
but I'm hoping the two parter

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finale is going to give enough
time for like the story to

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really pay off I.
Mean, if we think about it right

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as we saw in that story of
Belinda's life, she's with a

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Doctor Who isn't truly seeing
her value.

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And here she is again with a
doctor.

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Not that I don't think he's
seeing her value, but her

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problem is not as big as all the
stuff he wants to deal with,

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right?
Because they land here and she's

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like, all right, we'll go have
fun, right?

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And whereas she wants to go
home.

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Yeah, I, I think it's hard for
Belinda in that instance when

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the doctor explains to Belinda
of, you know, this barbershop is

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the place that I feel like I can
be myself.

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And it feels very much like
because I'm a, I'm a black

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person, I can go here and it
just feels like home.

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It feels safety.
And Belinda, we've seen even in

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the story that the doctor tells,
it's like always putting other

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people before herself.
And so it's just perpetuating

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that of like, well, yeah, sure,
go, go on.

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I want to say just like anytime
you guys do that, something

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happens.
Just like either do it or don't.

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Like what's to stop him from
solving Belinda's mystery and

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then just going back?
Well, then we want to have the

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story.
Yeah, it's funny.

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It's like a weird better thing
where it's like you could not do

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that but like.
Then there wouldn't be an

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episode.
Right then we want to get this

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beautiful episode, right, Right.
OK, so one thing I did want to

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touch on with this is so we
talked about the gods, we talked

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about the story.
I think the the way the story

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engine looked with the heart and
the brain.

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Fantastic.
Ebena telling the story of

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slaves putting like roots to
freedom on the hair and for

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other people to read it.
And it was passed from

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generation to generation, slave
to slave.

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And then she did the thing to
the doctor of showing the route

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to get to the story engine.
I think was just, oh, whenever

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that happened, I got chills.
I was like, that was just such a

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smooth way of telling that story
and then incorporating it into

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the story I thought was
beautiful.

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But there's one mystery that
happens on the set, kind of gets

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mentioned again, but we don't
really talk about it.

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And I think it's going to come
into play later is when Belinda

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is walking to the shop, she sees
a child and the child seems a

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little out of place.
My theory with that child,

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because she says something to
the doctor.

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I saw, I saw a child.
It was really weird.

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And doctors like, oh, it was
stories were just spilling out,

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right?
I for some reason, my gut

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reaction was like, that's Poppy
from Space Babies.

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And I don't know why, but that's
what I felt.

445
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,280
And I don't know why she would
be there.

446
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,000
But it also makes me think,
like, is Belinda a space baby?

447
00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:51,880
I don't know.
I don't know.

448
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,760
It's just like, for some reason
it just my first reaction was

449
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,040
like, that's Poppy.
Yeah.

450
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,240
It just, it just felt like
something that it would be

451
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,880
Doctor Who, right?
Just tying in the first episode

452
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:02,960
into this somehow.
I don't know.

453
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,760
I think that would be a really
great call back.

454
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,920
That would be very cool.
But I guess the question is why

455
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,640
is Poppy there?
Right, right.

456
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:13,360
And are the space babies off
exploring all corners of the

457
00:24:13,360 --> 00:24:16,000
universe and time?
I mean, they are adventurers at

458
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,920
heart.
Are the space babies the

459
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,680
Timeless Children?
Is the Doctor a space baby?

460
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,640
How many generations of space
babies are there?

461
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,600
I just like saying space babies.
Space baby Yeah, yeah, that

462
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,680
that's definitely a mystery.
I think hopefully we get an

463
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,000
answer to it.
But again, I feel like I feel

464
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:38,800
like I'm mad at the doctor this
this episode because and she's

465
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,160
saying she saw something weird
and he's like, oh, don't worry

466
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,120
about it.
It's a typical doctor though,

467
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,640
until it bites them in the butt.
Why don't they ever listen to

468
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,240
their companions?
They do only when this story

469
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,360
needs it.
So final thoughts.

470
00:24:54,360 --> 00:24:55,480
Let's get to final thoughts of
this.

471
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,200
We did get a Missus Flood
sighting, of course.

472
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,280
I think she's been in every
episode so far, just like Susan

473
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,400
Twist was in every episode last
season she was in Belinda's

474
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,800
story, which again, very weird
that Misses Flood is involved

475
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,440
with the companion so much.
But final thoughts, I think

476
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,760
again, conceptually and
storytelling wise, great.

477
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,040
There was some interesting
moments where maybe it was

478
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:23,120
solved a little too quickly.
Exposition was good and also not

479
00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:26,200
good.
But I think overall an excellent

480
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,360
episode for Doctor Who.
Overall, I thought it was a good

481
00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:32,040
episode, but my main problems
are really with how things were

482
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:36,720
tied up at the end.
I thought the the 180 turn of of

483
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,600
the Barber really kind of came
out of nowhere.

484
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:45,240
And granted, look, I love the
this, this notion of hurt people

485
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,920
hurt people.
So stop the cycle.

486
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,720
I think that's very important
but but I just thought that he

487
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:55,200
was like so vindictive and so
hell bent on destroying these

488
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,640
gods for him in a moments to
just turn around.

489
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,280
It felt way too easy.
Well, I will say, yeah, that's

490
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,040
Doctor Who, right?
Doctor Who is very much all

491
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,200
about non violence.
They don't use guns, you know,

492
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,680
So it's like it's a lot of
always talking the person into

493
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,600
coming to the realization that
they should come to.

494
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,320
And sometimes in this case, it
just feels a little out of place

495
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,800
because highs of them being so
sought out for revenge is so

496
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:26,000
high that when they do finally
become good or get defeated, it

497
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,960
does seem a little quick.
And I would say that's kind of a

498
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,160
criticism with Doctor Who as a
whole, especially with these

499
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,880
almost self-contained episodes,
which is a bummer because

500
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,840
everything leading up to that
point was so good.

501
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,160
Yeah, that I think in like 40
minutes they had to be like,

502
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,240
well, how do we do the turn?
I don't know.

503
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,920
He saw the error of his waist,
you know, and.

504
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,720
If, if only it were that easy.
That would be a beautiful thing.

505
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:49,720
Yeah.
OK.

506
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,160
So next week we have the Song
Contest, which very excited for

507
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,440
the next time on.
That was just so intense.

508
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,520
And also it takes place during
Eurovision, so you know.

509
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,040
Yeah, they time things out real,
real good and right.

510
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,520
There's like that.
May 20 something date.

511
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,720
Does the does Doctor Who end on
the May 20 something date?

512
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,400
That they're trying to get back
to May 24th.

513
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,760
May 24th, right?
Yeah.

514
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,160
So maybe the first one will land
on May 24th and then the next

515
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,320
one will finish after that.
I think it's in the middle of

516
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,840
the week maybe, I don't know,
we'll see.

517
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,120
All right, calendars, Yeah, get
your calendars.

518
00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:28,400
All right, let us know what you
thought of the story in the

519
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,120
engine.
Just the title of the episode.

520
00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:32,400
So good.
Yeah, but see you next time.

521
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,320
And then go listen to our Loki
season.

522
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:35,560
And then you can hear the
special segment.

523
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,240
And then tell us who your
favorite trickster God is.

524
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,880
Yes, Loki season 1.
There is no video for that one,

525
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:44,280
Apologies, but you can just hear
our voices, all right?

526
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,960
Until next time, goodbye.