Doctor Who Ep6 ' Rogue' Review & Reaction

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Hello and welcome to a Bite of I
am Noah and I'm joined here with

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my always signing on my dance
card partner Derek.

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Hi.
We are going to be talking about

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Doctor Who Episode 6 Rogue, our
6th bite into this new Doctor

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Who season.
I can't wait.

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There's lots to talk about with
this one.

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I feel like I say that every
time.

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I hope there's lots to talk
about every time we do.

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This we talk a lot, but that
proves the point.

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Yeah, but not too much.
Before we get into everything,

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to get.
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Well, they'll have to tune in
next week.

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OK, so all that great stuff.
Spoilers ahead for Doctor Who

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this entire season so far, and
especially for Rogue.

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Yes, so let us officially take a
bite of Doctor Who Episode 6

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Rogue.
Directed by Ben Chessel and

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written by Kate Herron and
Bryani Redman, The Doctor and

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Ruby Land in Bridgeton inspired
1813.

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Where there's etiquette,
dancing, a handsome bounty

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hunter and shape shifting bird
like lightning producing

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cosplayers, scandals abound.
Where's Lady Whistle Down when

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you need her?
Oh, writing about the scandal?

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Well, she better be there
because there was a lot

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happening at this place.
Where's?

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Penelope, I did not see her.
Well, she's a little wallflower.

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You never see her the whole.
Point.

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Very good point.
What would I have done if Nicola

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Coughlin would have come out of
the wall as one of those bird

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people?
It would have been amazing.

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You know she is going to be the
companion for this year's

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Christmas special, so look at
that connection.

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Is that true?
Yeah, why would I lie?

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To get my hopes out.
Hello.

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I would never lie about Nicola
Cocola.

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I mean, she's amazing, yeah.
No, she is for real.

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So surprised if you didn't know
that.

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Spoiler.
Out of a lot of these episodes

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that we've seen from like the
season trailer and everything,

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this is one of the ones that was
at the top of my list that I was

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so excited for.
Not just for the Bergerton of of

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it all, but I love Time period
pieces or Doctor Who so it just

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checked multiple boxes.
What are your thoughts on this

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episode?
General thoughts before we get

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into the nitty gritty.
Thoughts.

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I have more questions than
thoughts.

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My question is where does this
fit into the season?

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What does love mean to the
Doctor?

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Who is Ruby Sunday and what's
the deal with Susan Twist?

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That's it, That's all the
thoughts.

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That's all the thoughts they
have.

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Well, I.
Those are seasoned questions,

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and I feel like this one being
right before the penultimate,

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right before the kind of two
parter finale, is an interesting

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choice.
But I thought it was a lot of

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fun.
We almost needed it because the

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last couple episodes were really
heavy, almost so and.

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This one wasn't.
Well, I mean, it was like hot

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and heavy, but.
Not that ending.

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We needed some like levity,
almost.

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There was dancing.
Yeah, there was a lot of dancing

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with us.
That's the joy of anything

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Bridgerton.
It's the costumes and the

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dancing.
And this delivered both.

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Yeah.
What did you think of the fact

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that it was they were like in
Bridgerton, but not necessarily

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1813?
OK, so thoughts gone into the

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episode I the year doesn't
matter to me.

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I'm like fine, do whatever year
you want.

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You can go to 426926.
I don't.

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Care time.
Yeah, I can't.

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Time me why me?
Thanks for pointing out my

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mistake.
No I I liked it again.

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I like the period pieces with
this.

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I am really interested on why
we're getting episodes like

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this.
They the only really through

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line is the Doctor and Ruby,
which is most of Doctor Who and

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Susan Twist.
But each one it almost this

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episode made me feel like it's
out of order and I don't know

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why I'm feeling that way.
And maybe we'll know if that's

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something that's happening, but
it almost does feel out of order

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and I don't know how to put a
pin in that.

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Do you feel that in any way or?
I just felt like this episode,

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out of all of them, we lost a
lot of those through lines that

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we have been talking about this
entire season, right?

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Of sort of music playing a part
in it.

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I mean, granted there was
dancing, but there wasn't like

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music wasn't encompassing any of
it.

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There was like pop hits.
I mean, that is true, but I

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don't know, it feels like
where's the as far as the babies

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or parents?
I don't know.

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I felt like as far as it being a
main part of this storyline, it

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wasn't there.
Even Susan Twist in this one,

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she was a painting on a wall and
that's all we got of.

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It but she was a grandmother,
right?

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So there's your familiar
connection there.

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I mean, I I think so Doctor Who
is interesting because it is

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very like episode of the week,
but there is a through

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storyline, right?
And so I am curious to see if

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there is a connection between
Ruby almost manifesting things

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that are happening in episodes
like and the devil's chord.

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Oh, you know, where's like the
dance numbers and the jibes?

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There's one at the end, you
know, this is very Bridgerton.

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It literally became Bridgerton
with the quartet, pop music,

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instrumentals.
We got.

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What was it, Poker Face and Bad
Guy by Billie Eilish played in

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this one.
And all of that stuff happens

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almost after she puts it into
the universe.

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Almost.
This is she said in this

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episode, this was always a dream
of mine and it's becoming a

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reality.
So I don't know if it's we're

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supposed to be picking up on
those things, but I do find it

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interesting that it is almost
like we are already on the

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planet or wherever they are,
they're already there and it is

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whatever happens.
And she almost like she the

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fairy circle.
It became a fairy tale.

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I don't know, it's just it's
interesting.

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I'm trying to put together
pieces but I feel like I will go

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insane if I keep trying to
connect everything.

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Yeah, I mean, I think you're
right in the sense that each of

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these episodes sort of does feel
like it's very own genre like or

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like the it's hitting a specific
genre, right.

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So this is exactly so this is
where instead of being in Disney

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Plus, we're in Ruby Plus, right?
And we're just going through her

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subscription based streaming
service.

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And so this week we were in
Bridgerton, you know, the week

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before we were in sort of a
Black Mirror episode, the

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mirror, you know, before that we
were in the horror or whatever

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it is, space babies.
So I think you're hitting

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something on the head there
where it does seem like they

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are, although there is the
through line of the Doctor and

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Ruby.
They're going through very

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different places, which I know
is part of the show, right?

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They travel to different places.
But a lot of the times it does

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feel very based in in science
fiction.

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Yeah, there's just, I almost
feel like there's some things

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that are missing almost.
And that's what's giving me

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pause because I'm I was.
We've been watching some

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episodes.
I've been making you watch some

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episodes that are my favorite,
and we watched some of the ones

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with Amy Pond and, and Matt
Smith and everything I said the

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character's name and the actor's
name.

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You guys know I'm talking about.
There's too many names to keep

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track of.
But there's something that like

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what I feel like is missing, and
I just thought of it now, is the

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Doctor being like, OK, pressing
all the buttons, doing all the

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levers and going to the place.
And that happens most of the

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time, not all the time when it
happens.

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And I feel like we haven't seen
that at all, really.

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The season before everything
kicked off.

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So there's like things that I
feel like are missing that I

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don't know if it's by choice or
they're just omitting it for

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like runtime.
Like are we?

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Just cutting to the chase of
them being there, right?

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Because there's only eight
episodes of season where usually

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there's like 13.
So I don't know.

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I'm just like throwing theories
out there.

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It's towards the end, I'm going
crazy.

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I need some answers.
And I think it's interesting.

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Is is the mystery just Ruby
herself, or is the mystery this

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entire season I.
Think both.

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I think they're tied together.
They would have to be.

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It's going to be interesting,
so.

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Susan Twist is really just a
producer at Ruby Plus, and she's

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pulling all the strings it could
be.

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It could be.
So this episode, what did you

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think about the Bridgerton Ness
of it?

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I love it.
And I mean, I think the timing

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is perfect, right?
We're kind of in the middle of

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season three of Bridgerton right
now.

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We're waiting for that
second-half which comes out next

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week.
So the Bridgerton Ness of it, I

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think we are all Ruby, right?
We are Ruby living in this

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reality where we can't wait for
the next season of Bridgerton to

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come.
And the things that she loves

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about it, you know, the amazing
costume designs in this episode,

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the choreography, which is done
by the same choreographer who

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choreographs Bridgerton.
That's insane.

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Yeah, it's it's pretty
fantastic.

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So his name is Jack Murphy.
He's done all three seasons of

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Bridgerton.
And he's done a couple episodes

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of this Doctor Who, which is
very cool to see.

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And so I think that as far as
the Bridgerton Ness of it and

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thinking about them being in
Bridgerton, it totally pays off

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and they pull it, totally pull
it off.

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The one thing that I'm trying to
piece together, not to get back

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into the theory of what's
happening here, is it it feels

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like they're actually in an
episode of Bridgerton, not that

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they're doing what Bridgerton
does, which is like, you know,

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Bridgerton is like taking the
Regency era but making it more

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modern.
It's like they actually went

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into Bridgerton itself rather
than them just putting A twist.

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In the era, I feel like the
writing duo that wrote this

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episode were the perfect people
to do this because when an

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episode of TV tries to clearly
emulate something and they even

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drop the name of the thing
they're trying to emulate, it

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could get tiring really quickly.
But I felt like with the

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writing, with this, I mean, Kate
Aaron, we know them from Loki

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season one.
They, they were the reasons why

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Loki season one was so good.
I mean, there's obviously tons

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of other people, but they were
the creative mind behind that.

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And I felt like the writing was
so sharp in this episode.

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The jokes weren't like
heavy-handed.

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They were quick and witty and
just kind of like there.

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And it's like, oh, that was that
was funny and it just seemed a

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little natural.
So having that tight writing in

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this paid off with it emulating
another show and I feel like it

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didn't get tired.
I was enjoying a bunch of it.

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Yeah.
And I really loved the scenes,

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personally between Ruby and the
character Emily Beckett, who's

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supposed to be like the shy
wallflower character.

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I love Ruby just being Ruby.
Even though Ruby is dressed up

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in Bridgeton attire, she's still
saying current vernacular.

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She's still acting like herself.
And so watching this character

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get very wide eyed by everything
that she's saying, I thought was

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really funny.
And I thought they played off of

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each other really well.
Yeah.

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I liked it.
And there's, you know, injecting

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that modern feminism into it.
And even though we do find out

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that this character is a
shoulder, which I'm going to say

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we had a hard time pronouncing
that at first because we didn't

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really catch it in this show.
And then I know in the like the

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spoiler sheet that we got,
because we saw this episode

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early, they were like, don't
mention blah, blah, blah about

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the shoulders.
And I was like, how do you say

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that?
I didn't expect it to spell.

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It was.
Spelled quite bizarrely.

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Absolutely.
But so finding out that she was

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that, but she was still from
like a time, not in current

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time.
So it was interesting to see an

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alien deal with that vernacular
as well.

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But also having Ruby there to
inject the like this isn't

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right.
Yeah, let's let's not do this I.

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Love that she calls that one
jerk Lord Stilton.

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And then he's like Stilton and
and then the Duchess says it's a

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very difficult cheese.
So funny.

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That was really.
Funny so.

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Funny because at first I was
like, that's his name.

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I didn't, it's so early in the
episode.

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But when she said that was like,
oh, it was a dig.

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Yeah, good job and.
I love that it's explained as

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well.
It's a very difficult cheese.

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Ruby and the Doctor in this
episode.

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It was really good to see them
together again for a longer

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period of time because it's been
like 3 episodes almost where

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like we, you know, Ruby was
sleeping in Boom and then the

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Doctor was gone and 73 yards and
the last one they were just

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Facetiming in.
So it was nice to see them.

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Even though they did get
separated in this episode.

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I loved the moments where they
were just like she was, Oh my

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God, like this is so cool.
And there's that thing with the

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Doctor where like the companion,
then he's taking to these places

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they would have never gone to.
And there's that spirit in him,

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that thing that just like
radiates like This is why I do

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this.
You know, I save people and help

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people, but like, I get to show
people all these wonders that

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they would have never seen
before and.

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In this particular episode, it
seems like they weren't there

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because the Childers were there.
They were there because they

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just wanted to go to Bridgeton.
They got an invite to Bath,

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England in 1813, and they're
like, sure, let's go, let's do.

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It I mean, let's pop in our
little ear buds that will, you

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know, let us know all the dances
in the vernacular and we're good

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to go.
And it was nice to see them just

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having fun.
It was for the first, you know,

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5 minutes of the episode, but it
was nice to see them enjoying

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each other because that's the
thing, right?

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Is that in every season of
Doctor Who?

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We're very invested in the
relationship between the Doctor

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and the companion, so we need to
see them together in order to

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see that grow.
Right.

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You know, I'm very happy for
this episode.

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Even though Ruby and the Doctor
weren't together a lot, this

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episode with the titular name
Rogue had this new character a

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part of it and the Doctor right
along with that.

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And I felt like because we got
73 yards with Ruby and we really

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got to know her a little more,
see her more, we got to see this

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layer of the Doctor from in
Chuti's way that we haven't seen

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yet.
What did you think about Rogue

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and the Doctor?
Well, I mean, it's Pride month,

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so I fully support it.
I will say every episode of

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Doctor Who is gay at some level.
This one real gay.

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Oh yeah, so gay I.
Mean it had Kylie Minogue in it.

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I literally hold on.
Let me find this in my notes

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because I I wrote in my notes
Kylie Minogue in all caps.

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That's one way to tell if
somebody's gay.

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I.
Mean and not even that, but just

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the doctor just fully body
rolling the entire time while

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it's playing.
I mean, it's it's like that

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hidden playlist that you don't
want anyone to know about and

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then they play it and blast it
did.

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He ever think that there would
be this Time Lord Temporal being

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that came into his ship and
would play his playlist, the one

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that he paused and that was the
song he landed.

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He's like, But when I scored
this bounty, I'm playing Kylie

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Minogue and I'm dancing the hell
out of this.

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Absolutely his.
Face, when it came on Jonathan

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Cross face, Rogue's face was
just like, oh.

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No, no, I do have to say I loved
the there was no tiptoeing into

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this, right?
It was very much brooding on the

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balcony, the doctor going up
there and them just immediately,

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I don't know, some sort of space
traveler signals of letting each

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other know that they were into
each other.

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It it.
Was really interesting because

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one Jonathan Groff, I feel like
did an amazing job and I hope he

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becomes a fan favorite because I
would love to see more of this

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character.
I don't know how because he's

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the doctor's going to have to go
find him.

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I hope he comes back because
there is that element of like

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other characters in the hooner
verse that we don't have any

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more at this point.
And so having this character

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that like is a little horny with
the Doctor and just like pops in

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and out, but adds that like
bounty hunter aspect of it is so

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good.
Don't I know pops?

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In and out, Noah, this is a
family program.

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There's.
An E next to this episode.

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OK, explicit.
Yeah.

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What was?
Explicit about it What?

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Our episodes.
It's like Rogue.

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No.
What did I miss?

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Yeah.
So I, yeah, there's that element

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that I'm that is missing a
little bit.

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Like we don't have Captain Jack
anymore.

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And my hopes was this could be
the new Jack, but with that like

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kind of budding romance or at
least attraction.

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I wouldn't necessarily say full
on romance, but like, that's

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interesting.
That's new and I like it well.

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That was my question for you was
as a Doctor Hugh, Hugh, Doctor

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Hugh, just keep going Fan and
leva.

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When there is a new character,
are you trusting them?

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Are you not trusting them?
What does it feel like when

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someone like this appears?
OK, well, let's get into the

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rogue of it, all right?
We don't know his name.

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It does seem like that's a name,
Like maybe a moniker, right?

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The bounty hunter.
Yeah, on 1st watch, when I watch

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this, I was like, I love this
character, he's amazing.

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They need to get married.
I don't care.

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Let's do this, let's go.
I'm sold.

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Watching it a second time, I'm
cautious.

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I think there's a line that the
that Rogue says when they're in

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the ship, after Kylie Minogue
and after all this stuff and the

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Doctor commenting on all of his
untidiness in there, there's

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something that he says, he says
he mentions a new boss.

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The new boss, you know, wants
blah, blah, blah or something.

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Yeah, he.
Says this job has so much more

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paperwork since we got that new
boss.

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The only other person that has
said anything about a new boss

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or something like that is the
Meep from the Star Beast and

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also kind of inkling with the
Maestro.

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There's this thing of something
else is bigger running things.

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I don't know if that was just a
line that peeked my ears and

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means nothing or it was
something that we were supposed

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to catch.
I do find it interesting.

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New boss for what usually?
A bounty hunter is like out on

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their own, their rogue, you
know, they answered a no one.

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So the fact that there's a boss,
I think that is an interesting

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line, yeah.
There, because we know there's

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this ominous figure somewhere
waiting, the one who waits.

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What does that mean?
So that's waiting for.

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Paperwork.
That gave me a little

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interesting.
And I don't know if it's one of

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the situations where, you know,
Rogue, his mission maybe is to

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hunt the shoulders, but the
Doctor came and that's a bigger

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prize.
And then he was like, oh, I'm

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just going to capture this guy
or whatever.

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But then he actually did start
having feelings.

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He was able to open up because
that's the beautiful thing about

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this doctor is he's so open.
He's so emotive.

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He's so just willing to like
grab and touch and kiss and

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everything, and we haven't had
that in a while.

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So I'm curious if that took away
that facade.

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Almost it.
It's interesting.

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I don't know.
One of the things that I'm

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thinking about is we learned
that he had a partner at some

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point that he would travel
through space with and do all

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these jobs with.
But, you know, at first I

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thought, oh, the partner died,
but maybe the partner didn't

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die.
He just says, I woke up one day

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and like, that was the end of
that.

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So what happened to the partner?
You know, did he do something to

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the partner?
Did the partner not trust him

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anymore?
You know, what would happen when

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you seem to be in this long term
relationship?

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Why did it end?
Yeah.

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He said his his words were a day
came along and at the end of

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that day I lost them.
And I guess that can be

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interpreted any type of way.
It is interesting.

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I did like these moments because
it is somebody that can relate

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on a level that nobody else can
with the Doctor.

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This guy travels, had a
companion, lost them.

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This guy travels, lost a
companion.

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You know, it's so it's very much
like that's their bonding.

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Is it true?
Again, I feel like on the second

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watch, if you've only watched it
once, I do recommend maybe

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watching it again because there
are some things where it's like,

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that's interesting.
But then we get moments of when

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the scandalous thing of two men
dancing in Bridgerton happens

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and the lights go out and the
lights are just on them.

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There's moments where I'm like,
I believe it.

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Like I believe that there is an
attraction, but there's

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something of both of them being
like, this could be something

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can it, should it is the
question.

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I like that.
Moment that they had in the

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TARDIS where you know he the
Doctor says something like, will

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you travel to all these other
planets with me?

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And then he says something like,
well we can go on my ship and

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you could do all these jobs with
me.

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We can argue together, you know,
so these two beings that are

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constantly traveling time and
and galaxies and stars, you

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know, how often is it that you
find another male that's

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interested in men that does the
same thing that you do?

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You know what I mean?
So hopefully outside.

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Of earth like sexuality is much
more open fingers.

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Crossed, but I don't know man.
There are spacists.

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So that's what I'm.
Saying and I don't think, and

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you know, going back to last
episode, I don't think any of

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them people were queer neither.
Well, no.

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Probably not, that's what I'm
saying.

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I do want to say though the the
one that played I believe Gothic

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Paul maybe is the first trans
man to be casted in Doctor Who.

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Incredible love that for them.
Hello this.

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Season is just paving the way.
Yeah, I love it, you know?

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Russell T Davies did say I'm
going to be talking about this,

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I'm going to be doing this.
I'm not going to be holding

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back.
I'm going to be doing all these

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things.
He's doing it.

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So thank you for that if you're
listening.

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But he does.
He does.

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But back to Rogue and the
doctor.

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Did you find their chemistry to
be believable, or is there

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something that gave you pause?
I think in.

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The first watch we're really
digging down on the 1st and 2nd

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watch in this.
On the 1st watch, I didn't

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believe it so much.
I felt like too much happened

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too quickly for me to really
fully support it.

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I don't trust him for the
Doctor, I don't think they're a

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good match.
Wait.

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Are you protective of the
doctor?

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I don't want him to get.
Hurt.

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Which by the way, OK, I'm I'm
just going to get into this now.

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00:23:06,120 --> 00:23:09,840
The doctor needs therapy Very,
very badly.

453
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:15,080
Very badly.
The the only OK, yes, and I'm

454
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,960
just saying this line 'cause I
feel like some listeners of

455
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:22,080
Doctor Who would be like, right,
this is supposed to be the

456
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:27,120
Doctor after all the therapy.
So the by regeneration happened

457
00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:30,960
and David Tennant kind of does
all the therapy and this is like

458
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,400
after OK, but when?
The and that's beautiful, but

459
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,600
you don't finish therapy, you
don't graduate from therapy.

460
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,680
I'm in therapy.
There is no cap and gown

461
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,040
ceremony.
I'm just saying you just.

462
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,720
Keep going.
Because what I noticed with this

463
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,160
doctor is that something
horrible happens and then he's

464
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,800
like, fold it up and then I put
it in a box.

465
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,680
Well.
Welcome to Doctor Who, I think.

466
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:58,040
That he could really do well
with sitting down with someone

467
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,200
and talking about things.
I so you're.

468
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,560
Specifically talking about like
literally the last scene with

469
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,280
both of them.
And he's like, OK, on to the

470
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,160
next thing after Rogue is gone,
after everything happened, after

471
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,160
he sent the ship into orbit, and
he's like, OK, next thing, like,

472
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,760
let's not be sad, let's go.
What I did like, though, is that

473
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:19,560
Ruby took a minute and she was
like, no, no, like you're saying

474
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,080
this thing.
I know you need a hug.

475
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,160
And I loved that.
I loved that.

476
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,120
Like he let it happen because
there are some doctors would

477
00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:28,720
just be like, like, OK, fine, we
hugged.

478
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,920
OK, let's go.
But he really kind of leaned

479
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,600
into it, which is nice to see.
But even though he was going

480
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,480
back to his old ways of running,
he took a a moment to be like,

481
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,720
OK, yes, I let me think about
it.

482
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,800
Yeah, I.
Mean, I do also think about the

483
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:49,720
Doctor protecting himself
because a lot of the beings that

484
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,800
he comes in touch with, maybe
something happens to them and so

485
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,120
he can't cry over every single
person that he loses.

486
00:24:57,120 --> 00:24:59,240
He needs to kind of move on.
He will try.

487
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,000
Yeah.
And Chuti's.

488
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,280
Doctor has cried almost every
episode.

489
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,520
Yeah, because he keeps.
Almost killing Ruby in every

490
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,800
episode.
I should say he keeps getting

491
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,920
into situations where Ruby
almost dies in every episode.

492
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,000
He's not doing it, so shifting.
Gears, just a little bit.

493
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,760
What did you think about the
monsters, the villains, the

494
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:24,680
aliens, the Trolder Trolders?
Well, Russell T Davies is

495
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,120
obviously saying that people
that cosplay and go to cons take

496
00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:31,160
it too seriously and it's a life
or death situation.

497
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,720
That's that is the social
commentary of this episode.

498
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,680
He didn't write it, so let's
just.

499
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,160
That's true.
Let's not blame him.

500
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:40,120
You're right.
You're right.

501
00:25:40,120 --> 00:25:44,120
I'm sorry.
So I will say that Kate and

502
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:49,000
Brainy think that.
No, but in in all seriousness,

503
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,040
so fun.
So cool.

504
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:57,040
I mean, I don't know why bird
cosplayers make lightning when

505
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,600
they're sucking the life out of
people, but I don't need to know

506
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,480
why, right?
Because I thought it was so

507
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,720
outlandish and delightful.
Yeah, I agree.

508
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:08,200
I I do find it funny that their
whole game plan was to like

509
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,840
start here at this ball and then
take over the world, But I love

510
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,600
that they're not subtle at all.
Like if it does seem like

511
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,040
they're just playing and they
don't give a shit because they

512
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:24,120
would just lightning, which is I
like it because it's different.

513
00:26:24,120 --> 00:26:26,560
It'd be one thing to just like
hold somebody and do like a

514
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,480
rogue and just like suck their
essence and their look, but the

515
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:35,200
lightning made it like, OK, this
is like different, not subtle at

516
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,200
all.
So that was fun.

517
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,520
I thought they looked fantastic.
That is one thing with all of

518
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,600
these episodes so far as the
quality has not dipped in the

519
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,440
costuming and the effects and
the sound and the music.

520
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,520
It is all have been so
consistent.

521
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,600
Watch older Who and it's like
this.

522
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,840
That looked weird, but this
fantastic.

523
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,560
I love the way they looked.
Yeah, I was.

524
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,280
Really marvelling over.
Obviously they were each based

525
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,440
on a different type of bird, and
I was marvelling at the

526
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,480
featherwork on their faces.
I mean, they're cowls that they

527
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,080
were wearing, had full, you
know, single feathers in it.

528
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,200
It wasn't just like something
that was painted on.

529
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,760
You can tell there was real
feathers there.

530
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,080
I mean, it was incredible.
Yeah.

531
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,880
And I believe.
Pam Down had did the costuming

532
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,480
for this season.
I believe.

533
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,120
They're just kind of did the
whole thing.

534
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,640
I think they got the Burgerton
look down perfectly.

535
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,280
There could have been more
extravagant wigs, but I'm just,

536
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,120
I'm sure the wig budget is like,
not in it for Doctor, Yeah.

537
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,200
The, I mean, the, the
extravagant, extravagant wigs

538
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,440
are for the queen when she's
there.

539
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,360
So they didn't have a queen
here, right?

540
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,640
But I think that they must have
the prosthetics on the shoulders

541
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,800
probably cost a lot.
And I also like the idea of then

542
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,760
me like, OK, so you need to
dress all these extras and then

543
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,440
we have some bird humanoids that
also need to be in Bridgerton

544
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:54,400
garb.
Why not?

545
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,320
And I agree, what a creative.
Task for her to have to tackle,

546
00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:02,760
yeah.
All right, so getting into kind

547
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,800
of the conclusion of this
episode.

548
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,120
So they're cosplayers, they love
the drama, they feed off of it.

549
00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:11,720
They can't help but expose
themselves, the shoulders with

550
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,640
drama.
So after the scandalous gay

551
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,680
dance of two men and then
creating a scene and proposing

552
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:23,640
the proposal, proposal, which I
loved how it took the Doctor by

553
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,360
surprise.
He kept trying to get Rogue to

554
00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:27,000
play into it.
And then when he got on the

555
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,720
knee, the Doctor was like, oh,
that felt real.

556
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,360
To me, the proposal, it did feel
real.

557
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:37,360
Which is interesting, I know
ahead of this episode we had

558
00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:40,240
asked and everything on on
social media like any final

559
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,880
thoughts or anything like you
think is going to happen in the

560
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,480
show.
And a lot of people were like,

561
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,040
it's going to be another Time
Lord, it's going to be a

562
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,320
fugitive Dr. it's going to be
another incarnation of the

563
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:50,600
Doctor, it's going to be this
and that.

564
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,000
And that would have been
interesting.

565
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:58,080
But as far as we know, it's not.
So the fact that like he did do

566
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:04,800
that to create a scene, but how
personal it felt is interesting.

567
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,760
What they were playing up in
that scene was kind of the

568
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,400
scandal of it all, Like, I'm not
going to give up my life for

569
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,160
you.
And for a rogue to go in the

570
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,200
complete opposite direction of
getting down on one knee and

571
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,400
making it a tender moment.
He the doctor.

572
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,160
Literally says before he does
that, tell me what your heart

573
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,520
wants or I will turn my back on
you forever.

574
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,840
And then he gets on his knee.
And we were trying to.

575
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,040
So because of how we watch this
episode, there's a big like kind

576
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,520
of watermark on the on the
episode.

577
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,600
So behind the scenes stuff, we
had a hard time seeing what was

578
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,600
on the ring because of course
the watermark was right there.

579
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:46,240
I think it's a dagger, which is
like rogue dagger.

580
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,280
It looks like a dagger, but it's
it's a very weird looking

581
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,920
dagger.
So if any of you got a better

582
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,320
look at it while listening to
this episode, let us know what

583
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:56,880
you think that is.
It's a.

584
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,960
It's a Susan twist.
It's a spring.

585
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,960
It does look like a.
Twist though, right?

586
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,480
There's always A twist at the
end.

587
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,200
Whoa.
But seeing them run around

588
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:12,640
holding hands, it was just, you
know, as a queer Doctor Who fan,

589
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,400
seeing the Doctor really fully
be queer in this moment, we

590
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,960
almost got it.
We almost got it with 13 and

591
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,360
Yaz.
There's a moment and Jodie

592
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,240
Whittaker sees them where
there's they're they're at their

593
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,520
like kind of end of whatever's
happening with the show.

594
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,800
And Yaz tells her feelings to
her and the Doctor's like, I

595
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,160
would be with you.
But because of the episode and

596
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,160
because everything happening,
she knows she can't.

597
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,160
So it's like we almost got like
that queer relationship with

598
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,800
Doctor Who.
So to finally see some form of

599
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,720
that actually be acted out made
me very happy and not to go.

600
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,760
To blue right now, but I feel
like there was a lot of play on

601
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,840
like sort of, I don't know,
things like men having a pissing

602
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,360
contest, right.
It was kind of like the doctors

603
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,600
like well I have my Sonic
screwdriver and he's like, well

604
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,960
I have a big pistol and he's
like what's that shed?

605
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,240
He's like that's my ship.
He's like I'll show you a ship.

606
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,600
Look at my big flirting.
Yeah.

607
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,200
And then they go in.
And he's like, your ship's

608
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,440
disgusting.
It's a mess.

609
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:13,920
He's like, let's go into my
ship.

610
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,440
And he's like, now this is a
ship.

611
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,000
Sleek, sturdy.
But it does make some weird

612
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,000
noises every once in a while.
Ignore it.

613
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,680
Yeah, but something's up with
the TARDIS, obviously.

614
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:27,760
Still, Yeah, yeah, it's doing
that weird groaning thing.

615
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:28,680
It did.
It did make.

616
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,560
A really weird noise which he
was like, oh, it just doesn't

617
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,040
like the ethicalness of whatever
is happening.

618
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,760
I don't believe that something's
weird with the TARDIS.

619
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,320
Yeah, but I.
Appreciated all the little word

620
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,160
play about their ships and their
weapons and things like that and

621
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,640
what they can do.
And obviously the rogue is also

622
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,640
a bit of a geek because he plays
Dungeons and Dragons.

623
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,840
Yeah, right.
So there's something about him.

624
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,560
Like, what is his deal?
The the mystery of the rogue is

625
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,840
still there, but we're peeling
it back piece by piece, trying

626
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,160
to figure it out.
The greed.

627
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:03,800
So spaceship sizes aside,
queerness aside, I liked the

628
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,880
bait and switch of this episode.
I thought they did a really good

629
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,320
job because one, I think they
played with us a little too much

630
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,800
of like Ruby screaming and we've
seen the lightning.

631
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:17,680
I was like, oh damn, he actually
got her and it with it being so

632
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:22,240
close to the end of this season,
I was like, this can't be how

633
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,760
like Ruby like she can't die
this way.

634
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,360
How is he going to get her back?
It wasn't it was the the

635
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,480
earrings like helped her.
But in that moment when he

636
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,800
realizes, Oh my God, this is
Ruby.

637
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,760
She's not gone.
What do I do?

638
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,080
Impossible decisions for the
doctor.

639
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,840
It's like the chef's kiss of the
series.

640
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,880
But also I hate seeing him in
those situations.

641
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,440
It's like.
He's got to learn to make

642
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,720
devices where he doesn't have
just one chance to do things,

643
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,400
you know?
I mean, when he's fixing the

644
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,640
device, making it big enough
instead of one person to six

645
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,400
people, it's like, OK, but you
only have one chance.

646
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,440
Like, Doctor, you got to stop
doing this.

647
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,880
You know it's.
For us, it's for the stakes.

648
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,680
Is it for us?
Because I find it frustrating

649
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,160
because I think they're just
going to kill Ruby and they

650
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,000
don't care them showing.
That flashback with him talking

651
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,160
to Carla and she's like, promise
me that you'll keep her safe.

652
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,520
And he's like, yeah, I I
promise.

653
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,240
How dare you?
You know what?

654
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,480
He rude.
Yeah, he should learn to stop

655
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:23,680
leaving Ruby by herself.
He had a hot Jonathan Groff, I

656
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,560
think.
Every once in a while, you know,

657
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,480
look, a good gay should find
their bestie and always just

658
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,000
check on her and make sure she's
OK.

659
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,600
That's true.
Right, but she did survive like

660
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:37,200
decades by herself.
He doesn't know that she had

661
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,920
those goblins.
Following her around for a

662
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,640
while, She's a doc, had an easy
life.

663
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,680
And then that Lady.
Oh my God, Susan.

664
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,920
Twist.
She's around still.

665
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,680
Oh my God.
Do you think that we will see

666
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,480
Rogue again?
Do you think he's going to find

667
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,520
him if he's actually lost?
OK.

668
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,120
You.
So this would be, I think,

669
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:02,280
homophobic because you cannot
give us the first fully queer

670
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,960
Doctor Who kiss and then have it
never happen again.

671
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,600
True, and have that love.
And just completely disappear.

672
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,679
Hey, I hope.
For the doctor's sake, he does

673
00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:12,719
find.
I think he's going to be

674
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,560
wearing.
That ring, I think he's going to

675
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,840
be twisting it.
I think he's going to put Kylie

676
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,520
Minogue on that little jukebox
inside the TARDIS and he's going

677
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:21,920
to be thinking about him
constantly.

678
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:24,520
Sad.
Come on.

679
00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:28,920
Sending his ship up to the moon.
He should get in the ship, dig

680
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,480
around, find his real name out,
maybe do some DNA tracing or

681
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,000
something like that.
He should, but.

682
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,440
We have two episodes left and we
don't have time for that.

683
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,360
Yeah, ridiculous.
So, final thoughts on this

684
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,280
episode.
I really enjoyed it.

685
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,840
Bridgerton, if at all.
The acting, the moments of the

686
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,639
Doctor in complete distress and
making those decisions.

687
00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:52,639
Will you, you know, sacrifice
your friend to save the world.

688
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:56,480
Why are you asking him that?
And for him to say no, I mean,

689
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,880
he's at the point where he's
like, how many companions, how

690
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,200
many best friends have I lost?
People that I've loved.

691
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,440
I can't keep doing this.
Yeah, I love.

692
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,440
I I love it.
You know, I think this episode

693
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,920
came at the right time before we
get into the two parter.

694
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,160
Yeah, I think that.
Thinking about the Rogue

695
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,400
character, kind of tying up my
thoughts on him in that moment

696
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,120
where he's kissing the Doctor.
We're all thinking that he's

697
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,680
going to press the button and
send Ruby to that other

698
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,560
universe.
But what he does is he ends up

699
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,960
sacrificing himself and he says
find me.

700
00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:34,680
So maybe Rogue doesn't actually
know who he's working for in the

701
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,360
sense of he know he's he knows
he has a new boss, but he

702
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,720
doesn't know what he's doing and
that he's out to get the Doctor

703
00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:43,040
in some way.
So we can trust Rogue, but Rogue

704
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,320
doesn't know that he can't trust
who he's working for.

705
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,600
Yeah.
It's interesting.

706
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,560
And Rogue did see his true
nature.

707
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,760
He did see that he was a Time
Lord and his other faces were

708
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,400
there other faces.
There was a moment and another

709
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,320
moment that I keep thinking
about Rogue, like, I hope he's

710
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,760
good and I hope maybe he wasn't
good and he's like, I, the

711
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,080
Doctor changed me in some way.
But when he saw David Tennant's

712
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:10,240
face, he just went, he like gave
a weird look, like he

713
00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:12,080
immediately took his his finger
off.

714
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,440
Like that was the person that
was the face that we saw or

715
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,400
whoever, and was like, find this
person.

716
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,560
And maybe once he saw that, he
was like, that's the person I'm

717
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:26,480
supposed to find or.
Or was that Doctor the person he

718
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,680
was travelling the stars with?
Was he once a companion?

719
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,280
And one day.
Our dude was gone.

720
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,000
How dare he never say anything
about him.

721
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,520
I mean, that's true.
That's a good point too.

722
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,680
It does happen.
There's adventures, he's always

723
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,760
travelling.
So stuff that we haven't seen so

724
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,640
much.
So going off of the next time

725
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:52,040
for the penultimate episode of
Doctor Who season 14 season one,

726
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,760
whatever you want to call it,
what do you think?

727
00:36:54,720 --> 00:36:56,880
I think we're going to finally
get some answers.

728
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,400
We have to.
Right.

729
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,720
It starts with there's this
woman, she's following me

730
00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:02,880
everywhere I go.
And we see Susan twist and it

731
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,760
seems like she's on some type of
like stage or like there's an

732
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,640
audience that can watch
whatever's happening.

733
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,120
And she's like, it's always in
my dreams or I, I can't remember

734
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,600
the exact words, but we get a
flash of like her face changing

735
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:20,640
into some weird like black
crowned thing is Susan.

736
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,680
Twist an author, and they're
stuck in her intergalactic book.

737
00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:29,680
Right, because.
They're always seeing her and

738
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,040
she's like, they're always
there.

739
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:35,080
It's always there, yeah.
It looks like UNIT is definitely

740
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,600
involved.
We saw Kate, we saw Bush, we saw

741
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,840
all of them.
Kate Bush.

742
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:45,560
Was that all there?
No Kylie Minogue.

743
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,920
There.
Lady Gaga, there, there.

744
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,040
Oh, there's so much.
So let us know.

745
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,560
Send your thoughts at
us.dm.us.abonipples@gmail.com.

746
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,040
What are your thoughts going
into the finale?

747
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:04,400
2 weeks left guys, I can't.
Believe it, that's another end,

748
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,800
all right.
So till next week.

749
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:07,160
Bye.