'Doctor Who' Lux Review | Season 2 Episode 2

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Hey Noah, what does the fox say?
Ring Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, a

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Ding a Ding.
Ring Ding, Ding, Ding, a Ding, a

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Ding.
Mr. Ring a Ding.

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Ring Ding Ding Ding, Ding Ding,
Ding Ding.

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Hi, I'm Derek, That's Noah, and
welcome to a bite of where we

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are doing double duty.
And this time we're talking

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about episode 2 of Doctor Who
Season 2.

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What?
Are we doing anymore?

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I don't even know.
I feel like I'm two different

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people.
Who am I?

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I'm Doctor Who.
I'm the Last of Us.

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It's all very confusing.
Yeah, second episode of Doctor

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Who.
We're not doing spoiler free

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episodes of Doctor Who anymore
just because that's very hard

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for us to do and I think being
able to talk about the full

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thing gives us a better review
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to talk to you guys about it and
not hide things.

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Yeah, it's what's more
frustrating as a listener than

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being like what?
But what are the details?

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Yeah, what happened?
So this will be a fully spoiled

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second episode of Doctor Who.
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Be patient to children.
Yes.

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So spoilers ahead for Lux.
How many times are we going to

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say Lux in this episode?
Because let us officially take a

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bite of Doctor Who Season 2
Episode 2 Lux written by Russell

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T Davies and directed by Amanda
Brochi.

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The Doctor and Belinda land in
Miami, FL in the 50s where they

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learned that a group of
moviegoers mysteriously

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disappeared from the now locked
up movie house.

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Upon investigation, they find a
cartoon character come to life,

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Mr. Rangening, whose smile
lights up a room and hides an

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evil secret.
I'm just like Alan Cumming.

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I didn't realize there would be
this much singing in this

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episode.
You know what, I actually think

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there should be more singing in
the episode of Doctor.

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Who?
Yeah, well, it's been a while.

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That's it's a welcome change we
used to get all the time because

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you used to sing a lot more in
our episodes.

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There's there we would get many
a comment of I really enjoyed

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Derek's singing.
Where has the music on?

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Now it's too much now.
OK, so general thoughts.

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Let's let's what do?
What do we think?

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What do we think about this
episode?

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I always think that this is, I
don't know what it is about an

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episode like this that feels
very much like a second episode,

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right?
It's like a little lighter.

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It moves the plot along just a
little bit and leaves us with

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some more questions.
So I think in that essence, I

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think it did a good job of what
a second episode does.

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Yeah, I agree.
I I think that this is what I

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want from Russell T Davies
coming back, revival,

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experimenting with things and
doing things that who has never

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done before.
Or I mean, we get an animated

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character in this, right In the
real world.

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So it's very Roger Rabbit.
But like, I would have never

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thought we'd get this in Doctor
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Definitely 20 years ago, I don't
think this would have worked as

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well.
So this is very exciting to

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have.
I really liked this episode.

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I think 2/3 of it really worked
for me.

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And then I'll we'll get into the
the third part that didn't

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really work for me, but I think
it was a, a weird sequel to or I

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guess a parallel to Devil's
Chord.

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Very similar in a lot of ways.
I don't know if this is

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intentional.
That part of me like theory wise

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wants to be like what is going
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Like there has to be like a kind
of in shooty mystery or thing

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that's happening and I'm not
sure what it is.

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I know that's Pantheon and we
have all that, but I don't know.

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There's just something odd about
these episodes paralleling each

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other.
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definitely a parallel in the
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some sort of artistic media,
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So in the Devil's Court,
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one it's cinema and movies.
And I also think that there were

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some interesting details that
were dropped here as far as, you

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know, Belinda tells us about her
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they're both very musical in
some way, right?

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So we're still seeing.
Maestro.

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Right, exactly.
But we're still seeing like this

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mention of music a lot and what
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So I think that there's
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parallels here.
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appearance of Lux, we have
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But yeah, I do think there are
some parallels.

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Well, even even with them going
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getting changed kind of in a
similar way.

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I don't know if that's just
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happens.
Like they go up the ramp and

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then they come out the other
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I don't mind, But it again, it's
the second episode.

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It's very, it's interesting.
I'm, I mean keep your eyes

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peeled for for weird things that
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I did also, I, I was thinking
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of every time there's a new
companion, we have to kind of

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learn the steps again and the
rules of the world.

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And I felt like we had a lot of
that, that repetition in this

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episode, right, of him telling
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the last one and that they have
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And then they, like you said,
run up the ramp.

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And it was kind of like a lot of
similar beats I think that we've

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seen already.
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remember.
So this is right off of the

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heels of the first episode,
right?

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Because they got into the
TARDIS, they tried to go to May

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the 24th.
They couldn't.

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They're bouncing back.
So she's still in her same

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outfit.
So this is right immediately

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after that.
So they don't really know each

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other.
And that is one of the things,

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right?
It's like us as audience

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members, like we're going to
hear this thing again.

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But it's always, I think it's
always interesting of how much

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he's going to reveal and when he
reveals it, because he doesn't

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really reveal a lot of who he is
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like that, until there's a big
emotional part, right, until he

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has to become 3D, give himself
more depth.

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But I did like the comment of
when he said, you know, where he

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was insinuating where he was
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And Belinda was like Time
Lordia.

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It's like, that could have
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Yeah.
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So, and I think this episode,
the beginning of it is, is

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setting up more of our
overarching plot, which is

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trying to get Belinda back to
May 24th, 2025, right?

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So this starts with him creating
this thing called a vindicator,

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which is going to act as sort of
an anchor and pull them towards

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that point in time, but they
have to make stops along the

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way.
Like a fishing line.

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Yes, exactly.
I mean, did that work for you?

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The introduction of this new
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It's fine.
I would be surprised if it comes

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back, but I'm I would be not
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That's the thing with Doctor
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It's like he's just going to
make this gadget or this thing

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and it will work and then we'll
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It's just like a a thing.
Yeah, it was funny because he

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built it.
They brought it outside when

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they landed in Miami and then he
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that was it like.
Well, this episode does a really

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good thing.
So along with the overall like

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trying to get her back and they
can't get her back right, the

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Doctor is trying to keep Belinda
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She has a mystery.
He can't help himself.

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Just like here, there's a
mystery with the theater being

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locked up and a bunch of people
went missing at once.

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Can't help himself.
He convinces her and not

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manipulates, but kind of
manipulates her into staying

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there even though they got what
they needed from the Vindicator

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and they could have left.
So what I like about Anshuti's

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doctor is that we're always
thinking that he's always going

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to be big and nice and always
open, but there's moments where

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he's hiding things and he's
manipulating.

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And that's the part of the
doctor that's scary because he

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can do that.
And that very it it mirrors a

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little bit to the end of the
first episode where Belinda

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calls him out and he thought he
could have manipulated her or

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like, oh, I just took your DNAI
scanned you.

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It's fine.
And she's like, that's not OK.

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And there's a look he gives
where he's just like, oh, OK, so

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this is so she's going to push
back at me.

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So I thought it was interesting
that he used humor.

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He tried a different way, not to
manipulate her but to keep her

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there.
And it worked with this

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Scooby-doo comment, you know.
I think this doctor, you know,

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that the manipulation side is
really scary, but I also think

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that there's a part of this
doctor that's just so sad and

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lonely that he's willing to kind
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I mean, not in a very evil way,
but just to keep someone close

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to him.
He, you know, as we know, all

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these doctors, they've they
always lose people in their

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lives.
People are always disappearing

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from them and so.
Sasha, 55.

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Yes, exactly.
I mean, six months, he was so

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attached and then she died right
away.

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So I think that this doctor is
always trying to just keep

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people with him because he
doesn't want to be alone.

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But there's almost a piece of
him that can't admit that he

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feels lonely.
I'm loving that you're picking

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up on this, right, because this
is going to be like the second

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time that you're really watching
Doctor Who, aside from the ones

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that I've made you watch like
blink.

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But this that is the Doctor,
like this is the things that

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make the Doctor Who the Doctor
is.

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And they are very lonely.
They're the last of their

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people.
Granted, in some storylines,

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they're these people have come
back, but then he's lost them

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again.
But it's always like, is the

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Doctor doing this for
themselves?

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Is the Doctor doing it to
actually help?

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Which yes, the Doctor is always
helping, but there's always the

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thing of they need to confront
the reality of what they're

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doing to the people that he
allows in the TARDIS or they

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allow in the TARDIS.
So I love that you're picking up

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on that.
That's amazing.

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I'm looking at it with
intention.

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But I am interested to see what,
because there is a mystery of

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Belinda, but how far is that
going to go?

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Because I think in the first
episode when we were talking

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about it, I think it's going to
work as long as she doesn't

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constantly blame him, which
after this, I don't think that

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she's going to blame him for not
taking her back.

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But I think that she's always
going to be wary of like, are we

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actually doing the goal or are
we having fun?

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So there's always this trust
that the companions have to give

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to the Doctor where you're
pushing buttons and turning

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things and, I don't know, making
noises.

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I guess we're doing what we need
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The thing is shaking, so that
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Hardly any companion knows how
to fly the TARDIS, and that's

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probably on purpose.
There needs to be a manual for

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them, I think something to let
them know, have them a little

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more, a little more control of
the situation.

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But you know, I wonder if
towards the end of the season,

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there's going to be some
discovery of where she is going

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to realize that maybe they could
have gone straight back and they

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didn't need to make all these
stops.

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And she'll be mad.
Because, you know, one of the

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things that I had pointed out in
Episode 1 was that I liked that

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she was pushing back against him
and that she wasn't just the

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happy go lucky companion who was
willing to go on these

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adventures.
And I felt like, man, that

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really subsided quickly because
like you said, this takes place

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immediately after the first
episode.

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And already he's like, well,
we're here.

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You might as well get put on a
pretty dress.

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And she's like, oh, OK, that
sounds like fun.

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Well, I think there is that bit
of charm, right, That I mean,

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I'm time traveling.
Yeah, I'm kind of curious.

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I do want to see it a little
bit.

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And also outfits like, sure.
So I that's part of the thing

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that manipulates the companion a
little bit, even if they're

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reluctant of like, yo, when else
will you be in the 50s in Miami?

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True, but you know what they say
about curiosity.

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It sure did kill the cat, Yeah.
Yeah, so I mean, I do think

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Belinda is going to realize
something or she will always

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have that of like, no, we need
to do the job because in this

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episode she does a little bit.
So they get out of the TARDIS

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and she's like, cool, OK, let's
go.

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And he's like, but there's like
literally like Caretaker with

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the creepy theater and she's
like, OK, Velma, let's go, you

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know.
So I think she'll play along,

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but how far will it go?
Because the next episode is, I

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don't even think it takes place
on Earth.

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It might take place on Earth,
but like, I don't know.

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It's going to be interesting to
see how far along they go with

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it.
But so let's let's go to Miami,

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right, 1950s Miami.
What did you feel about this

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set?
Because it all takes place in

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one area, which I always love
when Doctor Who does that.

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It's like they built the set.
We're staying.

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Yeah.
I like that.

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I mean, it had very much that
feeling of like, this is a set

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of a place in time, right?
It was like perfectly curated

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for that's in time.
There's a 50s diner, there's a

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50s movie house, and there's a
street.

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And that's all you need to know.
But I think that what Doctor Who

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does is that especially with our
pair, they put them in a place

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in time where it could be
uncomfortable for them.

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So it's almost lucky for them
that it's in the middle of the

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night, right?
Because segregation exists in

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1952 Miami, and Miami has a
history with segregation.

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There were literal walls built
to separate black people from

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white people, the two
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And those walls still exist in
Miami.

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So it's something that is there
as a reminder of their very sad

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past in this country.
Hopefully it stays very sad

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past, but I think that it does a
good job of reminding them that

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people who lived in this time
weren't able to be as free as

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maybe they are now.
This kind of story I was

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interested in if they were going
to touch on, because this is the

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first like TARDIS team with
people of color, like like

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exclusively with people of
color, which is crazy to think

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in this a long period of time
that we've had, the people of

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color that have been in the
TARDIS is very, very slim.

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But so to have that and then
also in the first season within

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Shooty and then the season prior
with Jodie Whittaker, so being a

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woman and now being a black
queer man, were those stories

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going to be confronted?
And I like that the Doctor is

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confronted with that of like,
oh, I've never had to like feel

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that way, feel like I wasn't
welcome somewhere or because I

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was always a white man, you
know.

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So having a story like this and
then making sure it's like, no,

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this was the time period.
Like this is is what happens.

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And I like that we're kind of
like in Belinda's shoes of like,

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oh, what do you mean?
Like, what?

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What?
Oh, there's segregation.

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Like, oh, I like, I thought I
was in this fantasy, right?

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It's like, no, this is still
real, right?

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You know, even the diner being
segregated.

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But I like that Tommy Lee's mom
was like, I'll talk to him.

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It's interesting because there's
also a moment there where

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Belinda is, is obviously and and
obviously should be upset about

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this revelation, but the
doctor's like, all right, well,

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I've conquered worlds.
I've been in wars, this is the

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least of my trouble.
Yeah, he says something.

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He says something along the
lines of I've toppled world.

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Sometimes I wait for people to
topple them.

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Till then, I just shine so good.
I mean, it's unfortunate, right?

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But it's like, I think that's
really much saying like this is

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this is something that happens
in this time, you know?

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Until then, I'm going to do what
I can.

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Yeah, welcome to the universes,
Yeah.

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It's bad.
And I I did like the line that

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he he added where he's talking
about the segregation.

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He's like, and that includes
you.

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Yes.
He's like, you know, it's it's

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black people, white people is
like, but you're included and

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that because you're just not
white, which I think is

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important, important whenever
you're doing a story like this

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to be like, yeah, this is how
insanely racist this time period

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was.
That kind of carries over when

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they go into the movie theater,
right?

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And it's like, I know this is a
segregated space, but like, I'm

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here to help, you know?
I also think that by landing in

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1952 Miami, there's also another
storyline here that's spoken by

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very quickly is that when
they're looking at the movie

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sign, it's a Rock Hudson movie.
It's a movie that they made-up.

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It's not a real Rock Hudson
movie, but I.

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Was going to ask.
I was like, I don't think that's

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a real.
They just did it so the letters

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could fall off.
I could spell Harbinger.

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Because I was going to be like,
great, They picked the one Rock

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Hudson one where?
It's Bill Harbinger.

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Yeah.
But well, as as maybe if you

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don't know, Rock Hudson was a
very famous heartthrob actor

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from the 50s and 60s and even
into the 70s, and he was a

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closeted gay man and
unfortunately died of AIDS.

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And so they have a little
conversation about that where

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Belinda says, yeah, we studied
him when I was in my nursing

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program.
And so again, this is a

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commentary on how being gay was
something that wasn't accepted

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even if you were a Hollywood
star, and how the people around

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you would keep those secrets for
you.

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And so as we know, you know,
this is a queer Dr. And he even

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asks Belinda.
He says, you know, do you have

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anyone at home?
And there's nothing specified,

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but it's an open thing of not
being like, well, do you have a

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boyfriend?
It's just, do you have someone

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at home?
Right.

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Or like who's your mom and dad?
Like putting genders to the to

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the parents, which again,
they're always conscious of

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that.
And I did like that Belinda

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could make that connection with
Rock Hudson and be like, Oh

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yeah, he was mentioned in our
AIDS prevention course.

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And when we were, I was studying
these details, while they're sad

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and they're things that have
happened, but I like that

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they're making the world again,
feel real because these are real

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things.
And reminding you that like,

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this isn't like an alternate
timeline.

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This is our timeline.
And it's also like, how

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uncomfortable can we make the
doctor?

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How many of his identities can
we just oppress in this moment?

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Not in this one St.
Yeah, exactly 1 tiny St.

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Oh boy.
But I do want to shout out

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before we like move on from the
diner person.

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I didn't catch their name.
I don't really know if they had

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a name, but Queen spilling the
tea.

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Yes, maybe Lucas.
That does sound familiar, right?

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He was great.
He was up in all the business,

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he knew everything, he had the
T.

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He was like, girl, you got to
get in there, 'cause Reginald's

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in there maybe.
OK, let's talk about the

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animated elephant in the room.
OK, so ring a Ding I oh so good.

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Everything about this character
from Alan Cumming doing amazing

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singing and voice work, which is
like it's funny to think like

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this is Alan Cumming.
There's very few words whenever

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they were talking where I was
like this is Alan coming because

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they do such a good job of
disguising their voice and

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embodying this character.
But what did you think of ring a

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Ding this?
It was like creepy.

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The did the animation work for
you?

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I loved Mr. Ring a Ding, I
thought, and like you said, Alan

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Cummings portrayal is amazing.
I'm so you know, we've been

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recently watching him in the
traitors, which is such a

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different type of character that
he's playing and you know, and

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he says that's not really me.
That's the character is it

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though?
He says I'm playing that very,

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you know, turned up Alan for the
traitors.

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And so this is so in the other
direction.

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And I loved this idea of Mr.
Ring a Ding taking this, you

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know, wholesome character and
then making him evil.

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I kept trying to picture in my
head, what would it be like to

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see an animated character with
me, you know?

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So that was that would
definitely be something creepy.

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I think it's one of the, it's
hard to imagine, right, because

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it's 2D, but whatever
perspective you're at, you're

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seeing that flat 2D part.
I don't know, Like, I mean, we

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can see the movies, but I think
trying to actually picture it, I

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don't know, like it's like, I
know this is a 3D space.

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I can't fathom like a 2D thing.
So I do think they did a really

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good job.
It looked amazing.

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I wish there was more animation
part.

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Even whenever they get captured
and put into the film I wish

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there was just more of the
animation.

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Like it made me think like an
anime to Doctor Who show could

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be kind of cool.
Now.

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Would you want it to be an adult
tone animated show or a kids

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toned animated show?
Keep the same tone.

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I mean, it could learn more
Torchwood, which Torchwood was

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very much like the Buffy ish
feel where it still felt

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innocent, but like it was a
little more sexy, a little more

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edge.
So like, I could deal with that,

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but I don't want it to be like
adult, you know, that would just

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completely lose the feeling of
Doctor Who.

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But I thought the introduction
to Ring a Ding was really

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creepy.
The tap dancing, that freaked me

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out.
But then I started losing it a

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little bit.
I think the story with Reginald

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and him having to be there to
feed Lux with movies and stuff

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like that because of his wife,
because Lux brought his wife

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back.
I thought that was really

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compelling and I really liked
that.

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And those are the short little
tiny moments of Doctor Who where

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it's like, you really made me
feel for this character in like

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2 seconds.
But I think Lux as a character,

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this episode felt too short.
It felt too short in the way of

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like, it could have had a second
part, like we have a new

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Pantheon member, right?
And if you look at between the

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Devil's Court and Lux, while
they're both very inventive and

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unique and great casts, I think
Devil's Court did more of

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fleshing out who that Pantheon
member was and really doing a

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start to finish, right?
And being like, oh, maybe we'll

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see him again.
This one, it almost just felt

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easy.
It felt too quick and Lux really

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wasn't in it too much.
So like, I liked it, but I

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wanted more.
Or just like not as like

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confusing or convoluted of an
explanation.

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But easy.
Well, that it's funny because I

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had the opposite thought.
I thought this could have been

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shorter and maybe if it was
shorter than it could have been

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two parts, because sometimes in
a Doctor Who episode, there's

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just one too many ingredients
and it ruins it, right?

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It becomes too salty or too
sweet or whatever.

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And it's just like, like you
said, it lost me.

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It was like, I think we needed
to just stay in the film, right?

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Rather than although that there
was that fun 4th wall break

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where they're with those fans on
the outside and they learn that

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they're ATV show.
It felt like why is this

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happening other than them
telling them how to defeat Lux?

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Like they could have figured
that out on their own.

448
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,080
Well, this episode is
interesting in itself because

449
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,040
we've we saw photos of this
episode.

450
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,200
This is there.
I think there's a shot with the

451
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,640
Doctor and Belinda.
It was released during the first

452
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,680
season where they're running
away from the theater and you

453
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,560
could see Lux.
And that's how we knew that

454
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,360
Verado was coming back and going
to be a companion.

455
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,520
So like, we knew this episode
was happening and there was like

456
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,480
hints and rumors and I think
intentional leaks of like the

457
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,920
doctors in ATV show.
And I'm, I think it's all just

458
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:10,680
kind of like leading to this.
But again, yeah, it, it, it was

459
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,520
just too much.
It was almost too much in one

460
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,440
episode.
But also like, I know I'm, I'm

461
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,280
confused if there was a
harbinger with Lux.

462
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,240
I think Lux itself just confused
me on like, OK, you're the God

463
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,160
of light, but like, what does
that mean?

464
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,920
Like, why were you only at
night?

465
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,320
Was it because then you would be
everything and anything?

466
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,200
But if you're the God of light,
how are you not during the day?

467
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,240
I just think like, I don't know
it.

468
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,920
Like I need more.
Maybe they'll come back, which I

469
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,000
hope they do because the
pantheon, I would assume, would

470
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:45,360
come back in some way.
Yeah, it was a little a lot.

471
00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:47,240
A lot.
I think that they really could

472
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:51,960
have leaned into that Scooby-doo
aspect of the episode, kept them

473
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:56,360
animated, and then have like
animated violence, fighting,

474
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,240
right?
Figure out how to fight Lux as a

475
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,320
cartoon character, Like Big
Hammer out of the pocket, bash

476
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,280
him over the head, things like
that.

477
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,960
The only time that the Doctor
actually does violence is just

478
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,440
cartoon.
Violence, right?

479
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,960
I think that that is the
direction they should have gone

480
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,480
in.
Really make it a scooby-doo

481
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,240
episode.
That would have been really fun.

482
00:24:14,360 --> 00:24:17,400
Yeah, what did you think about
the Doctor Who fan part?

483
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,120
I mean, I thought it was kind of
true to life, right, Of people

484
00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:23,440
being obsessed with the show and
loving Blink.

485
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,160
Blink is the only episode anyone
remembers.

486
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,280
And I thought that was funny,
but it kind of was like, I

487
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,360
thought it was clever, but then
it was like, they weren't real,

488
00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:36,160
but then they were real.
So is Doctor Who in his universe

489
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,440
really ATV show or is he not ATV
show?

490
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,560
I almost wish that like I did
like the scene of the The Who

491
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,520
fans and our companion and
Doctor with the Doctor Who logo

492
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,280
on the TVI thought that was a
really like wild image to see as

493
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:51,880
like a long time fan of the
show.

494
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,520
I almost wish because it was our
logo.

495
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,760
I wish they would have like used
a fake in universe logo because

496
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,880
it almost took me out because it
was too meta.

497
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,720
I think.
Does that make sense?

498
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,280
Yeah, like I, I like I think it
was OK.

499
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,440
Let me try to like put this into
thoughts.

500
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,600
I think the mocking of fans in a
fun way was fun, but then it

501
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,080
flipped a little quickly and
then it was like, don't you know

502
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,440
the ending?
I, I don't know, it just like

503
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,720
felt.
Are you guys trying to be cheeky

504
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,560
or like?
But there's a story part to this

505
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,120
so it was really quick.
And it also did one of those

506
00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:33,440
things that I personally have
trouble with with Doctor Who,

507
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,360
where it tried to make us cry
over these characters, but we'd

508
00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:39,840
never met before, who we
literally only know for three

509
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,480
minutes.
Well, also, it's like supposed

510
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,560
to be us, but like, you made fun
of me.

511
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,280
Yeah, in the first bit of it,
which is fine.

512
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,360
I don't mind because yeah, we're
the worst and like, RIP Doctor

513
00:25:50,360 --> 00:25:55,320
Who, but I'm not on that side.
But yeah, I think that them

514
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,160
trying to make us feel bad, I'm
like, no, like that one.

515
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:00,600
I just kind of was like, it's
fine.

516
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,520
You don't.
It didn't really work for me.

517
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,480
Like being sad about them.
I do think that them all saying

518
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,760
blank is hilarious, but a true
Doctor Who fan would have said

519
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,640
something like Heaven Sent or
Waters of Mars or Girl in the

520
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:15,960
fireplace.
You know, like.

521
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,640
So he's saying that fake,
they're fake fans.

522
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,560
They're.
Fake fans, which I think Blink

523
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,720
is always at the top of
everybody's list, but like

524
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:30,400
really real fans.
I did think it was kind of when

525
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,400
the Doctor, and I don't know if
it's just because it's this

526
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,040
Doctor, but when they were
saying what their favorite

527
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,480
episode was, The Doctor was only
saying in shooty episodes, which

528
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:40,800
I was like, Oh, that's
interesting.

529
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,600
Like you're not mentioning
Heaven said, you know what I

530
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:44,720
mean?
Like you could have mentioned

531
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,800
any other ones, but it's like,
what about the one on the bomb?

532
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,600
What about this one?
I was like, oh.

533
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,960
Weird.
I think it's it's this doctor's

534
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,800
pride of being like, why are my
episodes not your favorite?

535
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,000
But yeah, I I think that's what
it was.

536
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,800
But I was just more like hmm.
And then how did he know that

537
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,920
those are the episodes?
Because we always talk about the

538
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,960
adventures in between the
episodes, but he only mentioned

539
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,720
episodes.
Don't think about it too much.

540
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,760
It's all starting to fall.
Apart, yeah, yeah, but I I

541
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,960
thought it was fun I think them
trying to figure out how to get

542
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,120
out of the film was really fun
pulling the frames, stopping the

543
00:27:16,120 --> 00:27:18,640
frames.
This is coming out right around

544
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,240
Easter so I think there was very
much like an Easter part in this

545
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,960
episode where you have the
doctor literally strung up like

546
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,080
this light coming through them.
Jesus.

547
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,680
You have Tommy Lee's mom saying
like, it's been 3 months.

548
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,640
And so three days, three months,
he came back.

549
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,520
I'm like.
So he is our God.

550
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,880
Yeah, I see what you're doing.
Yeah, I think Lex Imperator

551
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,920
getting defeated with being like
consumed by a bunch of light was

552
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,040
fine.
I think the imagery was really

553
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,840
cool.
Just saying like ring a Dane,

554
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,960
get bigger and bigger and bigger
until they're everywhere and

555
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,720
anywhere.
Literally becoming a God I

556
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,480
thought was fine.
I thought that was a very like

557
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,520
Doctor Who thing to do.
But yeah, it just makes me

558
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:01,840
wonder.
I'm like, this could have been 2

559
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,560
episodes, like the shortening of
the season themselves and also

560
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,040
the episodes.
I'm feeling it a little bit in

561
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:13,040
some of these particular
stories, but maybe we'll see

562
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,680
them again at the end of the
season.

563
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,760
I don't know who's the big bad
is for this, but yeah, I could

564
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,840
see the toy maker or Maestro
coming back.

565
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,520
I'd love that, honestly.
Well, I mean, Speaking of the

566
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:29,680
big bad and so on that we saw
again who is in 1952 Miami

567
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,040
misses Flood.
Yeah, And she was like, yeah,

568
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,120
you guys want to see a real
show?

569
00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:36,840
Look at this.
I you know, she's freaking me

570
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,800
out, man.
She's always everywhere.

571
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,680
She's always, I don't know.
She's she's always there at the

572
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:47,680
end of the thing always being
like, hey, guys, we're like, I I

573
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,480
can't figure it out.
I have no idea.

574
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,480
I think Susan Twist was like,
this is weird.

575
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,520
Why are we always seeing her?
But we're seeing but Missus

576
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,280
Flood is doing the same exact
thing, but like in a weird

577
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,720
bigger way.
Well, it's like Susan Twist was

578
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:06,120
a different version of her being
in that universe where that this

579
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:11,680
is the same Missus Flood and now
we know that she can travel

580
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,320
through time much like a TARDIS
can.

581
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,080
Is she hanging on it like
Suitek?

582
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,960
Part of me thinks that she's
attached to the TARDIS in some

583
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,160
way, like she has to be, because
how is she there?

584
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,520
And also, if she did say
something like it all ends on

585
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,160
the 24th of May, so we have a
date, right?

586
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,640
Like that's a big thing that's
happening.

587
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,840
I, I don't know, I, it would
make it seem like she's attached

588
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,160
to the TARDIS in some way.
The TARDIS has been sentient in

589
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,760
some stories, but I don't think
they'll go that route.

590
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,320
Is she some sort of time God or
something like that?

591
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,360
She has to be.
She has to be some Pantheon

592
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,440
member or some Time Lord of some
sort, but I don't know.

593
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,360
I mean, and with that phrase
that she says is is it possible

594
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,840
that Belinda can't get back to
that date because she doesn't

595
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,840
make it to that date.
She dies before that date.

596
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,720
And that's a reason why maybe, I
mean, has there ever, I'm not

597
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,160
that you might not know this,
but has there ever been a time

598
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,480
where the Doctor and his
companion can't get back to a

599
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,600
specific date?
I mean, no, like, yes and no,

600
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,480
not to this extent, not to where
it wasn't figured out in an

601
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,200
episode, you know.
So this is definitely like, I

602
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,600
don't know why they can't get
back there.

603
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,080
Maybe because nothing exists.
But then something has to exist

604
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,120
past that date because we go to
the future on Earth, you know?

605
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,800
So I don't know.
I think, I have no idea.

606
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,520
I think it's still early to tell
what this possibly could be, but

607
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,800
Misses Flood is.
Yeah, she's she's interesting.

608
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,600
I'm still not sure.
I think at the end of Season 1,

609
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,760
where we saw her in all white
and everything, it's like, oh,

610
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,160
she she's kind of resembling
some old villains.

611
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:50,760
But I think she's doing that on
purpose.

612
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,640
So I don't know.
I think we're in for some more

613
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,080
mysteries.
The next one.

614
00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:02,200
I'm quite excited for the well.
So yeah, let us know what you

615
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,480
thought of flux.
Did it work for you?

616
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,200
Did it not work for you?
What did you think of Ring?

617
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,520
A Ding, a Mr. Ring.
I also like his catch phrase.

618
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,240
Don't make me laugh.
Oh my, when the giggle.

619
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,720
As soon as that happened I went
so scary.

620
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,920
It was a fun character, I just
think they didn't take make some

621
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,040
the right choices with it.
Yeah, I wish Lex was in it more.

622
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,680
And also it was like, I liked
the Doctor Who explanation of

623
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,440
like, by chance the sunlight hit
the spoon and then it hit the

624
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,080
the projector light and it gave
life.

625
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,520
I love that because it's like,
yeah, it's who, whatever.

626
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,080
Yeah, that works.
That's fine, yeah.

627
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,000
But let us know.
Comment below.

628
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,040
Were you living for Lux?
What do you think of our pair

629
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:47,240
and their beautiful costumes?
Bye.

630
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,240
I'm like, you can't leave them
like that.

631
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:52,560
Bye.