Jinkx Monsoon Interview: Becoming Maestro, Representation & More | Doctor Who

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Hello and welcome to a very,
very exclusive, amazing,

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spectacular episode of a Bite of
I'm Noah and of course always

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joined with me is my trouble to
my bass Clef.

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Oh, I was I I would have said
you're the maestro to my daddy.

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That will make sense later.
Keep watching.

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So today we have a very special
interview with the Maestro

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themselves, Jinx Monsoon.
I can't wait to get into this.

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So housekeeping aside, follow
us, leave us a rating, follow

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everything that Jinx is doing.
You know the drill by now.

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So go do that.
But we want to give a little

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background on Jinx and kind of
introduce them and start the

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interview.
Yes, absolutely.

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So you heard our spoiler free
review probably something like

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10 weeks ago when we couldn't
really tell you much other than

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that we loved Jinx Monsoon.
So in this interview we're able

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to hear about some background
stuff, where they went, how they

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got the character and just she's
just the best.

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So just a little bit about who
Jinx is.

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If you don't know already, you
should.

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Jinx Monsoon is a two time Ru
Paul's Drag Race winner,

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award-winning actor and
recording artist.

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She made her debut on Broadway
in 2023 as Matron Mama Morton in

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Chicago, breaking box office
records during her extended 10

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week run.
Recently, she starred as Audrey

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in the Off Broadway production
of Little Shop of Horrors and

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made her Doctor Who debut as the
fan favorite villain Maestro.

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Jinx has toured globally with
her original cabaret shows

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alongside major scales and has
received numerous accolades

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including a Gregory Award, a Mac
Award, and the Best Live Theater

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Award at the 2024 Queeries.
And to round it out, most

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recently, she's been nominated
for Dorian Award for Best

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Supporting Performance and Drama
as the maestro.

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Who would have known somebody on
this podcast might be part of

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that voting committee.
I'm not biased at all.

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In in 2025, she will debut in
Carnegie Hall with Jinx Monsoon

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Live at Carnegie Hall.
I can't wait for that.

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I can't wait either.
All right, so to get into this

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interview, very gracious, you
know, we were we were slotted

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for a ceremony of time and we
had such a good time that we

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just kept going.
So sit back.

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We're going to summon the
Maestro with the devil cord

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here.
So everyone, we are so lucky to

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be joined by the amazing, the
incredible Jinx Monsoon.

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She has put us into her
schedule.

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She's not popping out of a
piano.

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She is just here right now.
Hi, thank you for having me.

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Of course.
So to get right into this

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conversation, because we could
not wait to talk about this

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because when we initially did
it, we had to do spoiler free.

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But the thing we could talk
about is how much we loved your

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portrayal.
So getting into the nitty gritty

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of this at the very beginning,
we know that you were basically

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hand picked by Davies to play
Maestro.

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What was your reaction when you
received that call?

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Finding out that you were going
to be part of Doctor Who.

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Oh, I mean, it was all very
surreal, even with being even

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being fans with Russell.
I don't know, you know it like,

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yes, Russell is the showrunner
once more and one of the head

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writers.
It's not I, I don't know all the

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correct titles, but Russell's a
muckety muck, right?

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And Even so, you know, he can
only do so much.

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Like everyone has to agree on
something.

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So even just like I, I don't get
my hopes up until the contract

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is signed and they're like, it's
you baby.

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And then I start getting
excited.

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So the first call I had with the
writers and producers was just

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incredible.
I mean, I've done some TV and

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film work, but I've never gotten
to play a role in TV or film

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with so much to it.
You know, my roles have been

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fairly humble and to get to play
a role that not only is so

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integral to the overarching plot
of the season, but also a role

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that is just.
I mean, there's only so many

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characters that are written
where the actor can really just

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go nuts with it, right?
And it works.

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And I really had just so much
fun because I think that

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character was so perfect for me
to show everyone the kind of

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performance that I like to do
and do well.

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Yes.
And you absolutely do it well.

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And I think one of the things
that you said was that it was so

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fun and we as viewers could see
how much fun you were having.

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And we were on that journey with
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And I, I was curious.
So you, you the contract sign,

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you have the role, and now
you're handed over the character

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that is a literal God.
How do you prepare to play a

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God?
What does that character study

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like?
Well, I guess, you know, for me,

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I think one of the things I
started thinking a lot about for

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every character that I play is
how much power they have.

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You know, when you're an actor,
you can synthesize so much and

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you can portray so much, but at
the end of the day, you're gonna

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bring your own life experiences
to the role, whether you want to

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or not, right?
It's baked into you.

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So at this time when I'm very
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going and who has power and
who's telling me what kind of

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power I have versus what power I
know I should to get handed a

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role.
OK, so there's nothing higher

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than a God.
There's nothing.

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So a God gets to create their
own rules.

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They get to do whatever they
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I, I, I referred to Maestro as
far as how Maestro works, kind

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of the mechanics and the logic
behind Maestro and their

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abilities and who they are.
I honestly was pulling from the

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Genie from Aladdin because I was
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like, the genie is all powerful
and can do anything he wants and

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makes his own rules, right?
And he still has to play by some

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rules, but outside of those
constraints, he can do whatever

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the thing he wants.
So I was thinking about

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characters like that, you know,
characters that have given

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themselves permission or have
the permission because they're

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so goddamn powerful.
You know what does the genie

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say?
It's infinite cosmic power.

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And, and, you know, to be a part
of the pantheon, I was a Greek,

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a Greek mythology nerd as a kid
and then a Greek theater nerd as

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a as an adult.
So I love anything resembling

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the pantheon of Greek gods.
You know, that has always spoken

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to me, something about it taking
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create something, you know, like
the X-Men.

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No one X-Men, no one mutant is
all powerful, but you put them

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all together and they create
something amazing.

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And I, I love that about the
gods.

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Like they might be extremely
powerful, but they all have

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their thing that they rule over.
And it takes coming together

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with other gods to really get
things going, you know?

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Yeah, I completely agree.
I mean, especially with this new

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concept of the pantheons being
introduced and you're one of the

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first ones to really be on the
screen aside from Neil Patrick

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Harris as the toy maker.
But it was just so much Oh, I

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have a specific question that
has the word daddy in it coming

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up.
Last time we were hanging out,

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that's the only way I referred
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Neil, that's Neil.
In your contacts, on your phone.

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It just says Daddy Patrick
Harris.

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Yeah, I, I texted him.
The baby episode came out and

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said that's it, you're my daddy
now.

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It is written in stone, so going
into specific scenes for this

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episode, you're seen in the
alley looking for the Doctor in

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Ruby.
Not only is one of my favorite

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like true villain entrances, but
ever, but I just really want to

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know what went behind shooting
that scene because you did

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everything from coming down on a
rope to looking for them, being

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muted and using a tuning fork.
So I just really, how was it

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like filming that scene?
Any scenes that are just me on

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screen or it?
It was such a ongoing

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conversation between myself and
the director, Ben Chisel, who is

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a lovely Australian guy who I
just got along with so well.

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And so basically between he and
I and, you know, everyone else

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on set working together, we
would kind of walk through what

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needs to happen and kind of
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And it became very Violetic that
first scene because it was like

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the cameras had to move in a
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And and I took something from
the script that Ruby says that

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says it's not just music.
Like how can you dance without

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music?
You know, like music and dance

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go hand in hand.
So I thought, you know, maestro

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has a physical form, and how
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move other than dancing?
So coming down on the rope was

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very theatrical, and then moving
around the space.

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You know, I'm not a great ballet
dancer, but I did study it for

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eight years, so I'm glad to put
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something.
So yeah, it's kind of more

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choreography and then coming up
with fun ideas.

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Like we knew we needed to use
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to have this giant ring.
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to use the ring to hit the
tuning fork.

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And it's just one of those cool
moments where it's like you get

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into the costume of the
character and you get on set and

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then you open your mind and the
work kind of does itself, you

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know?
Beautiful work you're by the

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way.
Yeah, I was going to say that's

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a beautiful thing, to kind of
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what's only written on the page,
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the freedom to explore.
Yeah, Ben, Ben and I, we would

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get everything we needed on
film, you know, like in the can.

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And then we would typically do
one or two more of just going

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for kind of a completely
different idea so that we could

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either go with the like biggest
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works, or a melange of the two.
You know, that's the beauty of

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film because you get to kind of
deliver multiple performances

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and take the best moment from
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to be cohesive to tell the story
you want to tell that's going to

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last forever.
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inflection of one word and it
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You know, comedy's hard.
You change the way you deliver a

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line and it means something
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And film is about finding the
best way to tell the story

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you're trying to tell forever.
Just forever and now.

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So taking something where you
get to kind of piece things

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together and there's
choreography and there's

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freedom, but then there's things
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I wanted to kind of talk about
the music battle scene because

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we see a lot of that again,
there's there's the spinning,

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there's coming out of pianos is
going back into pianos.

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There's a lot of physical work
in this role.

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Did you enjoy doing the stunts?
What was what was that like

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stepping into that I?
Asked to do all of my own stunts

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and there were some things I
wasn't allowed to do for safety

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union Y reasons, but everything
I was allowed to do I did

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because I, I really do love the
physical work And you know, it's

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what I when I went to school for
theater, part of my curriculum

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was like committee at del arte
clown work.

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We did a lot of physical
technique.

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I was in the best shape of my
life in college because it was

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just part of my curriculum, you
know, to use my body to its

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fullest extent.
For years I've been kind of just

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standing in place and singing
because my work has been in

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cabaret, you know?
So to get back into playing

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characters that get to be very,
very physical.

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I love that scene.
I can't even remember how many

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days it took to shoot that
scene, but it was a lot because

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everything in that that music
room was so much happening at

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once.
So there was special effects to

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film and there were stunts to
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And then the instruments was,
you know, a whole thing.

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One of my favorite aspects of
the dance the the the the music

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battle, though, is that I
started spinning with the violin

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and I was like, oh, that's fun.
And then the director, Ben was

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like, do you think you could
actually do that?

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And I was like, sure.
And 1st I was kind of doing it

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in place.
And he was like, what about

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moving while you do it?
And so the next thing I know,

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I'm faking playing the violin
while doing Shanae turns around

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the piano.
And that wasn't in the script.

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It was like music battle was in
the script.

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But we were really kind of like
building that music battle

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together.
Ben, myself and Chutzy and

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Millie and Russell came in off
and through the music battle

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kind of to check in on it and
was always so happy.

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So yeah, in the end it was like
the spinning was like me adding

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more physical stuff to it to
really build the.

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And I wanted to do something
that like, how could a human

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play, you know, 'cause it has to
be more impressive than just

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playing a fiddle really well,
right?

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It has to look like something
that a human couldn't do.

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And so spinning around rapidly
while I'm like, you know, and

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what I loved about that whole
scene is it just felt like a

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Looney Tunes moment.
It felt like merry melodies, you

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know, it was, it was scary and
intense, but also joyful and

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fun.
And Oh my gosh, the way.

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And she see smiles while he's
playing the piano and he's like

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making those little faces.
You take me now.

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It's like I'm just going to keep
spinning.

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I'm just going.
To keep spinning around.

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So Speaking of music, there's
one specific line in the future

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or in 2024 when everything's
destroyed and in that beautiful

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purple dress, you sing a song
that has the lyrics Daddy, Daddy

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to me.
Did you come specifically

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talking about the toy maker?
Did you come up with those

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lyrics?
Or no, that was in the script.

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And Russell talked to me
specifically about that song

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because we were having a day on
set where I was just saying how

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much I was loving this
character.

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Because this character gets to
be powerful and evil and amazing

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and fabulous and queer and
unapologetically so.

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And, and we don't spend a lot of
time talking about this

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character's gender.
This character just comes in.

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That's what it is.
And that's that getting loved

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that that's how that was
written, you know, and, and so

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I'm getting this like really
fabulous, amazing moment at the

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piano where I'm not only like
scary and powerful, but I look

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amazing, right?
And I said I just, I love that

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I'm, I've been invited to be so
queer on screen and no one's

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telling me to tone it down.
No one's telling me to pull it

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back or that I'm being too much.
And and then Russell was like,

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you know, they're really letting
us do it all.

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I wrote, I wrote a song in the
script where you sing Daddy,

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Daddy D me.
And they okayed it.

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The BBC okayed it.
We've come so far.

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I know.
And, and it's so it's, I know

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that the vitriol from the far
right is a response to the

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progress we've made.
We know that our freedom

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threatens them.
Our freedom frightens them.

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They're jealous.
I think there's a lot of

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jealousy here.
I think a lot of people look at

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people who have defined gender
for themselves and made their

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own rules around gender.
Regardless of what society tells

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you, your gender has to be
people who follow those rules.

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I think whether they know it or
not, they look at us and think,

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well, why do they get to decide?
Why?

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Why do I have to dress like the
way I've been programmed to

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dress?
If they get to decide for

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themselves, 'cause they don't
realize you don't have to be

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trans.
You don't have to identify as

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trans, You don't have to be
queer for gender to be shitty.

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Gender shitty for everyone, even
the people.

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Gender norms seem to benefit
those people.

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I mean think of straight men
being cut off from their empathy

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because that's what they were
programmed to be because and

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it's a chicken or the egg
situation.

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It's like, do men act this way
because that's the only option

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they're given or are they only
given this option because they

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act this way or and then it it's
like one side won't change.

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Like I was just talking.
I was in a a Macy's yesterday

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and the men's section was.
Black Obsidian.

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And it looked like a cave.
And the lighting was dim and the

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music was heavy metal.
And then you walk into the

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women's section, it's clean and
it's white and it's pearly and

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it's bright and it's easy and
it's breezy and the music's

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like, I want to soak up the sun.
And I'm like, OK, I know that.

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The reason that is the way that
it is is because these people

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think, well, no straight man
would come shop here unless we

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make it look really masculine so
that he's not threatened at by

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the idea of shopping for clothes
for himself.

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And it's like, but wait, would
he not go into a store that

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isn't designed that way?
Or do you just think he

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wouldn't?
And by keeping this up, you're

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just perpetuating more and more
that men are trapped in this

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idea that they, if you don't
shop at the store that's Uber

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masculine and aggressive, then
you're somehow not a man.

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It's a chicken or an egg thing
here, you know, like, when did

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it start?
And why does everyone think they

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have to do it this way?
We change so much.

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We change everything.
We change serial, we change the

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way things are shipped to us.
Why can't gender evolve?

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And it has women wear pants now.
And it's like, and it's like,

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you do realize that there was a
time where women weren't allowed

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to wear pants.
And it's like, if we think about

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that, that wasn't strictly about
queer people.

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That wasn't strictly about trans
people.

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That was about human beings.
Gender effects humans, period.

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Period, period.
And I think that's one of the

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things that like going off of
that .1, you know, just imagine

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how great the world would be if
everybody was just able to

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express themselves the way that
they should express themselves.

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And one of the things that I
loved about this season of

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Doctor Who is that it felt so
new and welcoming and open

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because we had people on their
openly queer people playing

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roles that you've never seen
them in before, or maybe the

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viewers of Doctor Who have never
seen.

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Even though it's been a
progressive show in the 60 years

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it's had, it's even more
progressive now than it was

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before.
Yeah, You know, and it's funny

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because it's like when I think
about how homogeneous and

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monotonous entertainment has
gotten, you know, and how we

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feel like we've seen everything
before.

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And then I think about what I
see in my day-to-day life, which

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is so much more interesting than
half the things being put on

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broad entertainment television,
You know, that's being mass

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produced for everyone to enjoy.
And I'm like, the reason why

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it's boring as fuck is because
you're still telling the same

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stories with the same people
over and over.

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And then when you show
diversity, it's still a formula.

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You're not actually letting
people be themselves half the

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time.
There's a queer character, a

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trans character that's like a
meaningful, impactful character.

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It's a straight this person
playing it, a straight or a this

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person playing it, or sometimes
both, because they don't

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actually wanna see the real
story.

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They wanna see the palatable
story.

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They think that they can handle
or they think that people can

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handle.
And the truth is we are living

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much more interesting,
ridiculous, scary lives than the

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stories that are being on.
You know, like I'm not, I, I, I

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don't watch a lot of television
right now, a lot of new

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television.
So I don't know everything

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that's being told right now.
But I do know when you take a

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character and you water it down
and you neuter it and you try to

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make it palatable for everyone,
then you get away from the

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truth.
And people are so sick of being

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lied to right now.
And the art that is excelling

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right now is the art that is
being created by the artist,

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produced by the artist, without
people who are trying to wring

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every last dollar out of it.
It's art that is being made

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because the person that is
passionate about the art, not

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passionate about making money,
passionate about the story they

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want to tell, not passionate
about like manipulating people

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into buying something.
And that's the art that is

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excelling right now because
audiences are connecting with

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authenticity and honesty.
And when they go see something

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that's just a bunch of bullshit,
even if they're entertained,

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they're going to forget about it
in a second because their own

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life is so much more interesting
than that boring bullshit.

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Because we're living in a
fucking apocalypse right now and

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we're in a culture war, and I
don't want to watch stories that

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ignore that fact. 100% And I
want to say that I'm going to,

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I'm going to fan out a little
bit here.

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The the joy of always watching
you, being you is the joy is

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that whenever I've seen you on
screen, you are always so

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authentically yourself.
And I think that's why so many

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of us gravitate towards you,
because by being yourself, you

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allow us to have the freedom to
express ourselves.

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So I'm super grateful for that.
I'm getting choked up, so thank

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you.
Thank you very much.

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Because it's not always easy.
And at times like this, I'll

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tell you that even, even even
the heroes you look up to right

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now are probably scared.
You know, even the fans, icons

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who have been fearless and
powerful and have fought for us,

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are probably terrified right now
because historically, popular

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opinion has never been on our
side.

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And now it is.
And yet we could lose it all

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easily, very easily.
And it won't be a conversation.

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It won't be a vote, it'll just
be them taking it away if if

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they come into power.
Which is, I mean, is true.

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I mean, just look at what's been
happening.

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Supreme Court.
Already happening.

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It's already happening.
It's they're laying down all the

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brickwork and this is just the
start.

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And if we can't stop it, then
who knows how far it can go.

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And I know that there are people
who don't think that this

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effects them.
And there are people who maybe

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even want this to happen because
of all the things we've talked

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about, the fear, the insecurity,
the jealousy, the hatred that

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they've been programmed to have.
But The thing is, every story,

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every piece of art, everything
that has to do with this topic

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has told us our whole lives, the
oppressors are the bad ones.

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And even if momentary good comes
from it for the people who want

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this to happen, when you
eradicate all of the problems,

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you'll find new ones and you
won't be safe anymore.

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You will eventually do something
that puts you on the enemy list,

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and then you will understand
what it feels like to have zero

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autonomy in this situation.
So I just want everyone to know

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that, even your icons and your
heroes.

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I'm putting on a brave face
because I know that that's how I

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can help right now.
But I am terrified and I don't

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know how to stop feeling
terrified.

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So I'm walking down the street
every day in this duality of

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trying to live my goddamn life
the way I've always done and

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keep being authentic and keep
being that strong person for my

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community and keep receiving the
love and giving it back out

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there.
While I'm also feeling like

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there are people who see me as
absolute nothing, and there are

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people who still shout slurs at
me walking down the street

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because they feel empowered and
emboldened to do so right now.

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And what makes me more upset
than them is the people who turn

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away from it who just don't want
to get involved.

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So I know that there are times
when doing the right thing is

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inconvenient, but I mean, come
on, humanity is at stake.

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You're gonna have to just give
up some comforts and luxuries

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for a moment if that's what's
required of you.

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If things are gonna be a little
inconvenient for right now, I'm

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sorry.
It's better to be a little

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inconvenient now than to
literally live in a Nazi state

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later.
I just wrote down humanity is at

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stake.
That is real.

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That is incredibly real.
And thank you for your honesty

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about the duality that you're
living in and how we we all we

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look up to you.
But there you are human and you

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have fear.
And I think that is such a real

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emotion because this is a very
real situation and time that

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we're living in.
So thank you for for sharing

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that.
Well, you know, I gotta say, I I

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get through my days with that
fear and that and that anger.

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I have a lot of rage, but I get
through it with the support of

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my community.
Truly, when I go do a show and

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the stage door is buzzing with
people afterward, People who are

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like me who just want to know
that there's a place in the

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world for them down the down the
line, down the road, you know,

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00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:05,080
young people wanting to just be
themselves in the future.

448
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,920
And I know that when I invest in
my community, my community

449
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:14,160
invests in me.
So I get through this year and

450
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,320
the anger because I know that I
have my community.

451
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:23,240
And I think one thing that I'm
finding very sad is that I think

452
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:28,600
what leads people down this path
of hatred and this path of

453
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:34,920
bigotry is not having a
community like I have, like the

454
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,720
queer community.
Or if they have a community,

455
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,680
it's so small and so insular
that they're not meeting

456
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,200
different people.
They're just meeting other

457
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,720
people like themselves.
And the most beautiful thing

458
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,040
about the queer community is its
global.

459
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,840
Queer people exist everywhere.
Whether it's safe for them to

460
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,240
exist there or not, they exist
there.

461
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,720
And if you got rid of us all
today, more would be born.

462
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,200
It doesn't go away.
It's not a thing that you can

463
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:08,640
eradicate.
It's just part of existence.

464
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:15,120
Queerness.
OK, so knowing that my community

465
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:20,320
spans the globe means that I'm
always trying to think about how

466
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:25,040
one thing effects everyone in
that community and my community,

467
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:29,520
and includes trans people and
sis people and women and men and

468
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,400
people of color and people of
privilege and people of faith.

469
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:39,600
And I try to think about what's
going to affect all of us.

470
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,920
But when you have, when you're a
part of a community that's just

471
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:49,400
five people who look the same as
you, you're you lose touch with

472
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,640
your empathy and your compassion
for other people because you're

473
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,520
not thinking about them.
You have it.

474
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,400
And then you convince yourself
you have no reason to think

475
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,520
about them.
But The thing is, we all are

476
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,520
part of a global community.
We live on earth, and it's

477
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,680
dying.
And a lot of people are being

478
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:13,600
really crappy roommates right
now. 100% and, and I think

479
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,440
that's the importance of a show
like Doctor Who, especially this

480
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,760
new season, is that it offers
folks a window to see other

481
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,320
people and other experiences.
And that's why we need this type

482
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,280
of media, because sometimes you
are just standing in a room of

483
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,000
five other people that look like
yourself.

484
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,800
You need to look out into the
world and look out into that

485
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,320
through that window.
Absolutely.

486
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,360
And sometimes our circumstances
don't allow us chances to meet

487
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,280
other people.
And that's why art has to

488
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,080
continue to tell the truth.
Art has to continue to be on.

489
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,640
Art has to continue to mean
something and like you said, be

490
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,240
a window into the rest of the
world.

491
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:55,240
You know, especially when we've
been programmed to get so much

492
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,480
of our understanding of the
world through our entertainment.

493
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,840
You know, America's two biggest
exports are war and

494
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:07,960
entertainment, I think.
So it's like we get a lot of

495
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,440
what we know about how the world
works through our entertainment.

496
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,400
And now it's even entertainment
like TikTok and YouTube and

497
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:19,239
stuff.
So there's a lot of stuff out

498
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:25,000
there, and I just encourage
people to watch the stuff that

499
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,600
shows them things they don't
normally get to see or things

500
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,400
they don't normally think about.
I say that being a person who

501
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:37,000
doesn't watch a lot of TV, but I
live a lot of life, you know,

502
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,480
it's an exchange.
If you're not traveling the

503
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,719
globe, watch a documentary for
God's sake.

504
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,800
That's the advice.
Watch a documentary for God's

505
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:54,440
sake.
That's the.

506
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,720
Advice.
I was hoping that we could.

507
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,280
I know we're a little limited on
time.

508
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,160
Is it OK to sort of get into our
lightning?

509
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:03,200
Yes, yes, yes.
Question.

510
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,600
I'm a talker, so go for it.
I'll be.

511
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,720
Lightning.
I'll be lightning and we're

512
00:35:09,720 --> 00:35:11,200
going to try and catch you in a
bottle.

513
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,000
Wait.
Before, before we get into it, I

514
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,880
did want to ask this one
question because we do ask our

515
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,880
guests this just just to kind of
see outside of what we're

516
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:23,040
talking about, what are you
currently like obsessed with?

517
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,640
What are you currently indulging
in?

518
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,040
Could be food, it could be
music, it could be anything.

519
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:33,960
Well, I'm a high functioning
Stoner, but that's kind of

520
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,400
constant, so that's not like a
new thing.

521
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:43,680
But what am I indulging in?
OK, so I've been OK.

522
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,320
My guiltiest pleasure is the TV
show American Dad.

523
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:55,440
And I have a communist socialist
friend who loves American Dad

524
00:35:55,520 --> 00:36:01,160
Missouri.
So when he comes over, I watch

525
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,160
it with him and it's like
watching it through new eyes and

526
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,840
he sits there and gets really
into the plots.

527
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,840
And so I already like American
Dad.

528
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,520
But I guess right now what I'm
obsessed with is showing it to

529
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:20,080
people who don't normally watch.
I also I play a lot of video

530
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,600
games and I go through phases,
but I have been on a long, long

531
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:29,200
like the only game I have like
the attention span for right now

532
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,800
is Overwatch.
And so it's like I wake up, I

533
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:37,440
play about 3 rounds of Overwatch
and then I start my day so.

534
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,520
That is literally me every
morning.

535
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,080
Who do you mostly play?
I do have to ask that follow.

536
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,640
Question.
Me too.

537
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,880
Lately I've been really kicking
ass with Diva which was the

538
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,880
first character I played ass and
I'm trying to get better at DPS

539
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,040
and so Symetra's my go to DPS
but I'm trying to get better

540
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,280
with Ash because they just
released that like Rita Repulsa

541
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,240
inspired costume and I'm like I
never play as Ash but now I need

542
00:37:04,240 --> 00:37:07,480
to get good at her just so I can
wear that costume.

543
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,160
Oh man, I I can't even think of
like, maybe we've been in the

544
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,360
same match together and I just
didn't even know.

545
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,720
OK, this is last thing and then
please the lightning round

546
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:25,320
yesterday.
OK, so my my Overwatch tag, my

547
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,320
like Battle.net tag is just
Jinx, right?

548
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,640
My I'm Jinx monsoon and I play
as Jinx right?

549
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,880
And then sometimes I see
gamertags and I'm like, OK,

550
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:41,880
well, I know that's probably not
Nicki Minaj, but I am Jinx and

551
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:46,600
my name on here is Jinx, so it
could be Nicki Minaj.

552
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,560
I could have just won a match
with the weekend.

553
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,240
I don't know.
That's the beauty of Overwatch.

554
00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:56,920
Jinx.
No, no one was just playing

555
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,800
yesterday morning and he goes,
someone's name is Nicki Minaj.

556
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:01,280
I don't know if it's Nicki
Minaj.

557
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,760
It could be Nicki Minaj.
I will say this though, Jonan

558
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:11,640
Vasquez, I probably just but
choose the same button the

559
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,240
creator of Invader Zim.
Invader Zim.

560
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,000
He's a pal and we, well it's
been a while but we used to play

561
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,360
Overwatch and my teenage brain
was freaking out because Invader

562
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,960
Zim was my favorite thing at
like 1213 years old and the fact

563
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,800
that my adult self is now
playing Overwatch when it's

564
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,600
creator is really surreal.
Anyway, lightning round go all.

565
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:36,920
Right, let's go to the
Lightning.

566
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,680
Ring All right, so these were
sent in from our listeners.

567
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,360
We had quite a few to choose
from.

568
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,400
So the first one, did you take
anything from set of Doctor Who?

569
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,360
No, no, I didn't.
No.

570
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,760
None of those give you
something, right?

571
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,800
It all goes because Doctor Who
is what it is.

572
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,840
It all goes into the archives
because you never know when

573
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:07,000
there might be a museum exhibit.
All right, I want to be the

574
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,960
Doctor Who archive.
That's awesome.

575
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,560
Next question, what was your
favorite scene to shoot?

576
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:20,200
Got that that my my entrance
scene because I got to fly

577
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,720
because I got to be rigged up
and I told them if I ever come

578
00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:29,640
back to the show, we need about
25 to 50% more flying for my

579
00:39:29,720 --> 00:39:32,240
character.
Can we just have?

580
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:33,480
I never want to touch the
ground.

581
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,360
Can we just have the Maestro
constantly floating?

582
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,440
My hope.
That's the power of the maestro.

583
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,960
The next question is, what other
series or films would you love

584
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:53,160
to play a villain in?
Oh, oh, I'm gonna manifest

585
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,680
something here.
My favorite book is called

586
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:02,280
Cersei by Madeline Miller, and
I've heard whispers that it's

587
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,160
going to be made into a series.
So.

588
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,520
I'd play a villain.
I'd play anything in Cersei.

589
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:13,560
It was thirsty is one of my
favorite mythical witches

590
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:20,560
anyway, so Cersei, Oh my gosh, I
have so many things and now I

591
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,800
can't think of any of them.
Oh, I'd be a villain on

592
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,400
Bridgerton, hands down.
Get me in a period piece.

593
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,720
That's what I want to do.
I'd play a FOP in Bridgerton,

594
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:40,240
maybe like a rich FOP who who
who does drag privately, You

595
00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:43,680
know, because that's rich.
People have always been doing

596
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,280
everything that rich people are
now trying to ban.

597
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,280
And you know what?
The things that they're trying

598
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,080
to ban, they'll probably still
keep doing it.

599
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,600
You think the you think the
closeted Republicans aren't

600
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,160
still going to have their gay
lovers?

601
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,360
No, they're not going to give up
a God damn thing anyway.

602
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,600
Go on.
If I had a nickel for every

603
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,960
straight man I slept with, go
on.

604
00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:08,160
How many nickels?
How?

605
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,160
Many Mama, I wouldn't have
needed to win RuPaul's Drag.

606
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:21,200
Twice.
So next question, which we got a

607
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,200
lot of, are you coming back as
the maestro?

608
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:30,480
I don't get to say anything
about that because I don't know.

609
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,960
And I actually do really want to
respect the process.

610
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:40,760
I don't want to interfere with
the storyline of a show that I

611
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:45,280
personally love.
That said, while I was on set

612
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:51,160
for the Maestro, Maestro's first
appearance, I was constantly

613
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,120
pitching like, well, you know
what, Maestro could come back in

614
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,360
this way.
Well, you know, Maestro doesn't

615
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,480
really die in the end, they're
just banished.

616
00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:03,440
Well, we have kind of
established that Maestro has a

617
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,000
little bit of the hots for the
Doctor.

618
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,920
So you know I.
It's right there.

619
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,480
It's right there.
I've definitely been planting

620
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,960
the seeds.
I mean a spin off with you and

621
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,480
Missy.
Why not?

622
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,640
Please let me work with Michelle
Gomez.

623
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,960
I also said that I'd come, I'd
come back to the show in any

624
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,840
capacity.
Like if they wanted me to play a

625
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,040
different character, if they
wanted me in prosthetics.

626
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,080
I mean, God, I'll play a stretch
of skin if I have to.

627
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:37,040
I love being a part of Doctor.
And the people want you to be

628
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,440
continue to be a part of Doctor
Who.

629
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,440
That is the truth.
So the next question we got is a

630
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,320
little away from Doctor Who.
What is next for you?

631
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:52,000
Thanks, Monsoon.
I have kind of been answering

632
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:56,360
this question the same way,
which is I really just love what

633
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,360
I'm doing and want to keep doing
more of it.

634
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,920
Like I want to keep doing more
TV and film roles.

635
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,480
I want to keep doing more
Broadway.

636
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:10,320
It's like I have hit the point
where that I have worked my

637
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,000
whole life to get to and I'm
really happy to just kind of

638
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,080
park it here for a bit, you
know?

639
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,640
I like what I'm doing and I want
to keep doing more of it.

640
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:23,600
I love creating the holiday show
with Dayla every year because

641
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,600
it's something, you know, it's
this balance of getting to do

642
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:33,640
scripted, established work and
then create my own work and find

643
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,320
that both things are very
important.

644
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:42,280
You know, like keeping these
important stories alive with

645
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,240
fresh perspectives.
Incredibly important because

646
00:43:45,240 --> 00:43:48,400
when we already know the story
and we already connect with it,

647
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:53,480
but we see a new perspective, it
hits US different because we

648
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,400
already, like, understand the
story, but now we understand how

649
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,200
it could apply to someone
completely different from what

650
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,080
we first considered, right?
That happened with Little Shop

651
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,200
and Audrey.
People started really kind of

652
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:13,400
singing transcoding in the
character of Audrey after seeing

653
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:19,200
MJ Rodriguez and myself portray
portray this character that I

654
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,120
now believe was written with
transcoding in it.

655
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,840
Like, I now believe that Howard
Ashman based Audrey off of

656
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:32,080
either a drag queen or a trans
woman that he might have known

657
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,880
and couldn't have put into the
show at the time as a trans

658
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,600
character.
So made her sis, but let her be

659
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,040
a fucking cartoon character, you
know?

660
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:48,920
Like, Audrey is right?
And so I think that's very

661
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,680
important, telling our beloved
stories from a fresh

662
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,600
perspective.
And we're seeing a lot of that.

663
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,000
And that's the only kind of
reboot I want to see.

664
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,640
If you're going to reboot
something to just like make it

665
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,080
look the same as it was before.
There's no fucking point.

666
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:11,600
And then creating your own work
is it allows me to talk about

667
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,000
what's happening that year.
It allows me to talk about

668
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:19,760
what's happening in our
community and it allows when I

669
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,400
create my own work, that's where
all my rage goes.

670
00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:27,720
Like I take all my rage and I
pushed it through the funny

671
00:45:27,720 --> 00:45:32,400
filter and it becomes comedy and
the message is clear.

672
00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:38,480
But I instead of yelling into
the void, I, I, I, I make my

673
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:47,400
audiences laugh and think.
So where we wanted to end this,

674
00:45:47,720 --> 00:45:51,920
we got a lot of messages and
comments that weren't even

675
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,760
questions and we wanted to echo
this as well.

676
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,800
They a lot of people said we
don't really have a question.

677
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,800
We just wanted to say how much
we loved Jinx's performance as

678
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,440
much, sure, and how much it
means so much to people.

679
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,800
And we got a couple that were, I
didn't even, you know, know

680
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,720
about Jinx and now I do because
of Doctor Who.

681
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,400
But so we wanted to echo that
same sentiment of just how

682
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,600
amazing you were and how much
we'd love it.

683
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,440
So thank you.
Well, thank you and oh, sorry,

684
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,760
go ahead.
I was saying just how happy,

685
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:28,080
happy we are to see you
continuing on this successful

686
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,840
track that you're on and just
bringing the jinx of you into

687
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:32,920
the world.
So thank you.

688
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:38,200
Well, I just want to echo what
I've said, which is my community

689
00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:45,760
has really, really made me feel
like I'm exactly where I'm

690
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,960
supposed to be and that I'm
doing it with a purpose and that

691
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:54,160
it means something more than
just having a dream fulfilled.

692
00:46:54,160 --> 00:47:02,240
You know, like to to make it to
a place that I wanted to be as

693
00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:06,520
the person I wanted to be that I
first saw for myself at a very

694
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:11,120
young age, but kind of thought
might never happen and at points

695
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,320
in my life accepted would never
happen.

696
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:20,960
And now to be here and to be
like me, you know, and, and, and

697
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:26,080
to be becoming everyday more
myself than the me that I've

698
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,720
always seen for myself.
It's the support from the

699
00:47:29,720 --> 00:47:34,600
community that makes it feel
like more than just getting my

700
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,240
rocks off, you know?
It's like knowing that it has a

701
00:47:38,240 --> 00:47:45,440
purpose and that if I show up
and do my best work, that's me

702
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:54,080
serving my community.
Like it's like I don't have to

703
00:47:54,240 --> 00:48:00,240
bring queerness and transness
into everything I do for it to

704
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:03,600
have a positive impact with the
queer community.

705
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,360
I just have to do the jobs that
I've hired to do to the best of

706
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:12,520
my ability to show everyone this
is what queer people bring to

707
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:16,520
the table.
And if you like this, there's a

708
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:23,120
lot more queer, talented trans
drag performers who have a lot

709
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:29,000
to share as well.
You know, like, I don't want

710
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:33,520
anything to ever just be the
novelty of having it once.

711
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:38,960
And then, you know, I want this
to be opening a door and a

712
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:44,720
window and a garage, open
everything.

713
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:51,280
I want people to see that like
the more diversity we bring into

714
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,680
our art and entertainment, the
better it gets.

715
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,360
And then I want them to realize
that that's true for everything.

716
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,440
That's that's all the questions
we have.

717
00:48:59,720 --> 00:49:02,240
I can't believe how generous you
were with your time.

718
00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:05,960
This has been well, I.
Have fun talking to you yet I

719
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,320
wouldn't still be here if I was
irritated.

720
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,080
There could have been more Wi-Fi
trouble.

721
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:25,840
Well, we are just so proud of
you and so grateful for you as a

722
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:30,600
human and for your time and, and
giving us yourself in in this

723
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,120
time.
So thank you so much, Jinx.

724
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,240
Thank you.
Thank you both.

725
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,720
I'm sure you'll have a lot of
British people watching this

726
00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:39,560
because it's Doctor Who.
But if you're watching this and

727
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:46,120
you live in America, vote and
vote wisely and there is a right

728
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,640
choice.
Sorry.

729
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:00,800
And we're going to end it right?
There.