The Last of Us 5: Endure and Survive | HBO

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Journey does not stop here.
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know they, okay?
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meet, we have an interview with
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shortly after this episode.
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All right, it's time for a look
back at The Last of Us episode

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4.
Please hold my hand.

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I've taken the to out.
I've decided that we don't like

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the to The, the internet also
did, who knows, it's Wyoming or

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bust for Joel, and Ellie, as
they head out on the open road

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in the All-American, infected
apocalypse road trip Ed cassette

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Classics and hidden porn
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Ultimately, their route is
blocked, trying to circumvent.

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They go off course and are LED
through a rebel defeated qz,

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their Ambush and find themselves
in a shootout in a split-second

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decision to save.
Joel Ellie takes a shot.

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The Escape but are soon being
sought after by the leader of

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the rebels Kathleen, she thinks
that they have been sent by her

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number-one Nemesis Henry and his
brother Sam.

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And she is willing to tear the
city apart to find them.

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Foreboding cracked asphalt
undulate sin, the basement

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welding.
Stop undulate snow bubble

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bubble.
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caught up.
Spoiler, warning ahead episode

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5, Spoilers just, you know, go,
I feel so bad, go watch it.

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And then come back.
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to that.
Let us officially take a bite of

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The Last of Us episode 5 and
door and survive.

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Okay, well, you know, such a
menacing named Kathleen who

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would have thought the villain
named Kathleen.

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Yeah.
And you know what it out, you

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know what, you know what else it
is about Kathleen, is that her

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voice?
Is actually like a very soft

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sweet Cadence.
Oh yeah, yeah.

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She's like, you're a rat.
Kill them all.

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It's like, whoa.
Whoa, your informants inform.

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I'm like, okay my gosh, just
like the present she has.

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And the way that we all sort of
like kowtow to her, you know,

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they're there is a piece of me,
that wishes that we did get to

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see a little bit of how she came
to power there.

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No, thank you.
I want to know.

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No.
I mean the Glimpse that we get

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of her prior To the cul-de-sac
scene and we see how she treated

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the informant / Cora, coopera,
collaborators collaborators, I

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was Robert Raiders.
Yeah, it's good.

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Crab was Bar and Grill.
Delicious, mmm.

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Well, but we saw how she dealt
with those people and how she

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is.
Just for violence, gives no

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fucks.
Straight ahead and she

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manipulates do 100% bait and
switch like nobody's business.

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Yeah, I don't think I can handle
more.

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I liked her but I'm glad she's
gone.

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No, totally agree.
No, I don't want to ever see.

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I mean, we won't I don't ever
want to see her dealing with

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with Joel and Ellie again, but I
want to, I want the little bit

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of a prequel to that that qz.
And, you know, was it really her

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role?
Or was it really her brother's

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role?
And then she just happened to

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take over when he died.
Yeah. 100% was her brother's

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role and then she had to take
the reins which you didn't have

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to should have had an election.
Yeah.

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Yeah, democracy baby.
Well, I mean, I also am curious

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because so much of the Romantic
relationships in The Last of Us

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aside from some of the ones in
part to aren't explicitly said

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or shown, and I'm curious if
Kathleen and Perry there are

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some moments in, this one's
particularly in the cul-de-sac,

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but he's just so willing to, I
don't know, just appease her and

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do what she asked that it's a
little more than just a right

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hand henchmen.
Situation.

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And I'm curious if there is some
Romanticism happening there.

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Yeah, his partner her, or it's
mutual, I don't know.

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You know, or maybe maybe it was
something that Harry was her

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brother's right hand person
lover.

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Oh, you know, I'm always pulling
for that lgbtqia+ storyline

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baby.
Yeah, something like that.

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Or just best friends.
So, he feels like it's his duty

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to stick to Kathleen, man.
Best friends.

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I don't know if I'd go that far,
like, for my Best friend to like

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kill a group of people.
Yeah, I don't know.

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It's, it's not good.
Whatever it is, you know, this

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whole, this whole sort of
storyline really gives me Hunger

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Games Vibes.
You know, the last movie when

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coins, like I know, it will do,
it's like, well, kind of meets

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the same fate, she does, you
will see her and Ballad of song

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birds and snakes.
This she's gonna be in that one.

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But so Kathleen and Perry and
the terrible, I mean, there's a

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line that I believe cred
pragmas.

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I said and it's also just said
throughout history that usually

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the people that overthrow the
oppressors are just as bad as

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the people that were oppressing.
Them typically throughout

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history and this is just a case
in point.

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Yeah, it's all that power,
right?

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It's like, even though they
wanted that freedom, what do

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they end up doing freedom to do
what I mean?

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I mean, I granted the Federer
was not great to them but also

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they're murdering people.
Yeah.

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It's just down.
People's doors and yeah,

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Kathleen Kathleen is just so
caught up in her grief about her

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brother that she's completely
blind to everything that she's

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doing.
It, makes you think that people

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in this situation in The Last of
Us universe or this type of

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Mythos or anything that if this
is who they actually are and

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when you're cut down to your
base person that you're able to

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really let it show because it
again choices.

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And she's choosing to be this
way Brandon I don't blame her

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for trying to place blame on
somebody reasonably for her

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brother's death but as we know
from salmon Henry side, it's not

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just black and white.
Like he wouldn't he didn't just

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sell out her brother because he
wanted to because he wanted to

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get extra Federal money.
You know, it wasn't about that.

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So yeah, and that's sort of the
hypocrisy of Kathleen though,

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isn't it?
Is that she is trying to hurt

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someone who hurt Her brother.
And that person that did.

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That was trying to save his own
brother, right?

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They put these siblings to like
head-to-head, it's just so

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heartbreaking.
Yeah, and I think part of it is,

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right, is in the apocalypse who
you're left with is all you have

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the last of us who saying it, at
that point.

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And then another point of ten
reads.

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Exactly.
The thing is that, that's all

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you have.
So when that the last of you are

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taken away, you're left with
nothing except Rage.

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Yeah, and grief.
Yeah.

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And this same, this is a, a few
steps back from where we left

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off.
In the last episode.

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We see salmon Henry, go into
hiding with the doctor that

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Kathleen does end up killing and
we see them go up to the attic

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and how he painted all those
things on the on the wall and

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everything.
Like and it's I think we needed

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that we needed to see the
urgency, we needed to see the

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desperation to get away.
But also some of the

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repercussions Russians from the
choices that and remade, we

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needed it to fully flesh out
this character a little bit.

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It's almost, you know, sometimes
whenever we're so far into a

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series and we step back a little
bit, like I'll come on, like, we

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left off and such like an
intense place, but we needed to

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see how they got from point A to
point B to Joel and Ellie.

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Absolutely.
And I also think that we needed

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that time with them to care
about them.

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You know, we really needed to
live with them for a little bit

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and what's interesting, right is
that I think they were in the

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attic for something like 10 days
but for us, it was what 15

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minutes.
If even that, but it was enough

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time for us to get to know them
and to love them already.

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I mean, the, the character of
Sam played by cave on Woodard is

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just an incredible character,
and he holds such power even

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though he's just this, this
little boy, he's, he's all of

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our hope, right?
In that sense.

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And I mean nothing beats a bag
of crayons, either a Ziploc bag,

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great and know.
No also good Big Brother for

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take it stuff that he knows that
you would love.

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Yeah, but we did need that
moment.

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We needed to see how much he
cared for Sam.

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We needed to see that there was
so much innocence.

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And, you know, just say I'm not
understanding like I'm hungry.

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I know there's one can of food
left but I'm hungry now.

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Like why can't we get this
Henry's?

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Telling him?
It's hard to get food.

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We can't just get food but he's
like, but I'm hungry.

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Like I'm 11.
I need food.

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But we needed to see that stuff
and then leading to the

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confrontation with Ellie.
And Joel we get to see not only

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Ellie finding somebody that she
can have kinship with but then

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Joel seeing almost a reflection
of himself the opposite.

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It's like pessimism versus
aggression.

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Almost and seeing how those two
balanced each other out, but how

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much they actually have in
common?

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It's really cool thing to see.
And again, as we're moving on

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in, These episodes we keep
seeing Joel, you know, notice

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these things, right?
So you have to wonder if Joel

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weren't with Ellie at this point
in time when they won't.

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When he wakes up with the gun in
his face, would he have reacted

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differently 100%?
Right.

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He would have he would have
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Ellie in these instances is
almost I would say like a

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conscience but she's almost like
an inner voice for him to be

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like okay well let's chill out.
This is what's happening but

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then immediately They're able to
find that common ground and

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they're sharing food with them.
Yeah, because he's able to see

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reluctantly.
But yeah, he's able to see that

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they're younger.
Mmm, you know, he could probably

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tell that they don't necessarily
know what they're doing with the

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guns and he kind of is able to
flip that switch, which he

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hasn't been able to do in a
while.

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Yeah yeah they make that plan to
get out of Kansas City which

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seems I mean as soon as they
mentioned tunnels I'm just like

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I Guys, the undulating pit of
infected.

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We saw it.
We know what's coming.

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I know Kathleen's like we dead
bolted.

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The door.
It's fine, Double-Double

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deadbolt.
Yeah, we did the lock on the

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handle and then the debt bubble.
Yeah, that'll keep them.

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But I do like that this growth
from Joel, not only with Ellie,

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is also growing to trust people
little bit, even if it's to an

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ends to a means, he needs his
help to get out of the city.

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He knows that it's almost
impossible.

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All to get out, especially where
they are with everybody on such

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high alert looking for salmon,
Henry, they go down into the

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tunnel.
This episode, These two episodes

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and three ebenbolter did Magic.
It is just so beautifully shot.

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We see the scene of Henry and
Sam, when they're leaving that

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attic.
For the first time, we get that

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different perspective of Joel
fighting inside of that store.

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But just thinking about doing
that and leading it almost doing

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it in real time, to lead them
into their paths Crossing.

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It's just so cool.
This whole scene with the

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contrast between, yes, it's a
dark scary tunnel and there's

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possibly things down here.
Then they get to the mural on

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the wall and then when you go in
there it's still depressing.

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But it does feel hopeful.
You feel like something like it

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could have been safe at one
point.

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Yeah.
I mean that whole room is a

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Really odd juxtaposition of
different things, right?

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So it's you're thinking you're
underground.

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There's a tunnel.
But yet there's light coming

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from the ceiling which you'll
hear about how they did that

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when you listen to our episode.
Yeah, we have these drawings on

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the wall but they're chip and we
know that the people who were

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here aren't there anymore, but
yet, our quartet are there and

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they're enjoying the space at
least Elian, Sam, right?

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That's right.
I don't think that Joel is ever

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going to Really enjoy a space
anymore, that's the magic of

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Ellie, right?
He gets to sort of see things

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through Ellie's eyes and because
Ellie is so young.

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She's fearless in that way and
she's able to kind of see the

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good in situations if you can.
So she takes us up as an

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opportunity to say let's just
hang out here.

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So this this scene in this
particular, whatever you want to

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call it bunker and these tunnels
is is one of joy and happiness,

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but at the same time, you're
scared.

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You don't know if there's
anything on the other side of

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Door.
You don't know if anything is

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coming for them so you're kind
of just teetering on this Edge

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the entire time.
You're like, Yay.

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Kick the soccer ball but not too
loudly.

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Yeah.
The it's it begs.

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The question of if this was
safe, why is it not safe

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anymore?
And let's make it depressing

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more leading up to depressing
stuff.

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Alright.
If you saw the tiny, your shot

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of the drawing on the wall, with
somebody call dish in the game

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you actually find out what
happens in that.

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At Bunker through notes being
found, you can piece together

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the story.
This dude was at Sea became

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lonely.
He came into the city to find

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companionship found this family
with kids.

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They live down there.
It was great, those roles on the

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wall, they were broken and
unfortunately, by so it's sad,

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but it just gives that extra
layer of like what happened.

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Like why?
And I'm curious if they'll ever

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Tell that story but maybe not
maybe it's just an Easter egg

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for people, you know, like a
little a little present they

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left there for the people who
played the game and left us

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wondering for me someone who
didn't play the game.

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Like what did that mean?
You know, they it was such a, it

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had its own shot, you know, it
again of him looking at it that

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it made us realize, like, up
that means something to someone.

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So yeah, this little, this
little bunker is is, or was once

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a safe space, it could still be
safe if they Follow those rules

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already pre written on the wall
and at this point in time,

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you're there there.
It's like, well, what's next?

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You know, it's, we have this
moment.

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We found another comic book.
Yay, hooray, but they're still

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in the middle of this Escape.
Yeah, we don't know what's on

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the other side.
I love the connection that

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salmonella have they have it
throughout this entire episode

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and Ellie almost needs to have
that connection because she is

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still young.
She's 14 and she needs to have

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some type of fun.
Some type of Hope and relating

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to somebody.
That isn't a middle-aged man.

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That's just completely broken
and hardened because it affects

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her.
She had a read so many puns, I

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did laughs God and it was the
poop pun that really broke him.

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Yeah.
Right.

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And you know, there's also a
thought of saying, who is this

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the last time she gets to be a
kid.

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I would say most definitely
exactly as it was a whole

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episode of mostly that.
Yeah, yeah.

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So I mean there's So much being
said, as these episodes go on.

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It's like, it's like the
crumbling of Joel's facade.

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But on the other side of it
it's, it's Ellie.

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Putting up her own Waltz, you
know what I mean?

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Block Ling, losing her own
childhood, it's rough.

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Yeah, the I would say, the first
ending to this episode is

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complete Mayhem and it's it's
something I don't want to say

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the show needed, but it needed
to remind us.

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Of what this world is because so
much.

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I guess the second episode was
really the last time we had a

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threat of infected, and we
haven't seen most of them.

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They've kind of been there and
Ellie cut one on the head and

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stabbed in the head.
But it's been mostly people from

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here on out, which is fine,
that's the story.

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But since it's not the video
game and most of the infected

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fights aren't going to happen
from point A to point B because

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they don't need entertain us
that way.

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They need to amp it up in a Big,
big way they get to this

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cul-de-sac in this neighborhood
right outside of their area.

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They needed to get out of
Kathleen, finds them.

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They're mowing down things with
that giant.

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Snowplow car plow thing goes
into a building I guess there

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was another undulating pit in
that house everywhere in the

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hundreds of infected.
It's just such a cool scene to

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see that What a, what a my
favorite sort of, poetic things

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that happens in this is right in
the last two episodes we've seen

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them really rolling through town
in that truck and on the plow

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part of it.
It says run.

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Yeah.
And then that truck is what ends

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up, breaking the pit open and
then they'll have to run your

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their lives, but I don't think
many of them make know, the, the

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conversation that Kathleen has
with Henry while Joel's up in

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the tower, after you took out
the sniper.

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The tension in that scene is a
lot because you have Joel, it's

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like, okay, take her out, take
her out.

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Joe like, you have the shot, you
could do it.

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But you have Henry, Ellie and
Sam having to be literally right

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next to this entire Army.
But her dialogue and what she

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says is terrifying and it really
puts into perspective who she is

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because he tries to tell her and
almost sympathize with her, like

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I did that, you know why I did
this like Hi, I did it to save

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my brother who killed your
brother, but like, I did it to

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save my brother.
You should understand that.

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No, she kids die all the time.
What's the problem?

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No, I know why you did it?
I'm still going to kill you.

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She's deranged yeah she's
completely lost her mind.

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Yeah he's like when you can try
and like make that sound.

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Okay you've crossed over the
bridge to you know

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cuckoo-bananas town and there's
Perry.

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Right next to her like go girl,
he's like I got my gun, you tell

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you one, I got you, whatever.
You know, what's even worse

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about this seeing though, is
that like the one person who

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would be truly capable of
escaping?

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The situation is nowhere near
anyone.

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Yeah, he's already finds already
up.

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Freaking window.
You're like, no, Joel, don't

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leave them.
Why?

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Why why?
Why would he leave them?

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Yeah, it's that Trope.
That it is as old as time

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mermaids.
No, no, no, that's beating the

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beasts Beauty and the Beast.
It's the separating yes.

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Every time their separation it's
like oh shit and they've already

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been that.
Like I mean it wasn't even for

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that long but you knew it was
bad.

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Yeah yeah.
So as soon as all the all of

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these infected just start
pouring out and The most

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terrifying and just sick as hell
way.

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It gave me flashbacks of World
War Z, but it was just different

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enough.
Yeah.

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So where it seemed any of them
like you could point out one and

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be like that one's gonna kill
me.

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That one's going to kill me you
know, like World War Z felt like

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just this giant mass.
Sure of a thing.

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This one was just terrifying and
then they amp it up.

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We might not have gotten that
bloater in the school seen that

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everybody wanted to see before.
Bill and Frank's house.

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We got him here.
Never a good sign.

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When infected / zombies in a
piece of media are so hungry.

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That they knock each other down
and crawl on top of each other.

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That is never good.
Yeah, when there's that many, I

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mean that, I mean, when that
truck went in that hole, where

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the, in fact they created the
whole the infected were like, oh

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well, well well there we go.
When they start, you know,

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Calling their arms.
Like you could tell.

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There's just like no more like
hinges or anything, man.

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Whoo, yeah, it's so good.
He just came out and he was

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like, I'm gonna smash you to
Smithereens and then I'm gonna

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rip your head off.
I sure a lot of people have seen

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this online that suit passed
half a million dollars.

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Well, took over an hour to put
it on this 7-foot tall person

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and it killed, it was so good.
We're seeing another stage of

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the infection here.
I I will admit.

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Okay, I'm just going to admit,
there's something that I was

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curious about.
So this whole thing infected and

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how it operates is to spread
this infection, not necessarily

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to kill, but to spread libel
odor in this scene was very

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much, just a murder machine
ripping.

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I don't think they bit, anybody.
They were just ripping heads

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off.
And just going, then the game,

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they have like those essential
things.

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Those almost like you.
Bulbs that they have on their

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body.
They would take them off and

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throw them and like a Spore bomb
would go off.

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We don't have spores in this
game but like I'm glad they

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didn't add that extra thing
because I don't think anybody

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really I do like grenade fungus
pustules I don't know if it

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would have really translated
they almost show they almost

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would have had to have tendrils
or something just because they

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took out the Spore element and
had the tendrils added so it

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almost would have been too much.
Yeah.

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And I mean, in the game, do we
learn how the different kind of

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sectors or levels of?
No, no, no.

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It's just like there's clickers
in.

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There's bloaters.
And because it's like, how does

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one?
Even how does one even bloat so

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much?
I mean, I know what I'm like

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after Thanksgiving my God.
No.

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I mean I think it's just
inferred that the longer that

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something is infected, the more
just Lodi or it gets evolves.

447
00:25:10,100 --> 00:25:13,900
I don't know if it goes to, you
know, from regular Runner.

448
00:25:13,900 --> 00:25:18,300
So I Kurt's a clicker, then to
bloater then to you know, giant

449
00:25:18,300 --> 00:25:22,000
mutation it could but I don't
think anybody's really able to

450
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,900
study these things.
Well, no, I think you know what?

451
00:25:23,900 --> 00:25:25,200
That's probably a good point,
right?

452
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,500
Because if we actually think of
the actual fungus, what it does

453
00:25:28,500 --> 00:25:30,500
to the being that it goes in is
that it first?

454
00:25:30,500 --> 00:25:32,600
It controls it.
Then it solidifies it and then

455
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,800
it blooms into something else,
right?

456
00:25:35,100 --> 00:25:37,100
So I think you hit the nail on
the head.

457
00:25:37,100 --> 00:25:41,600
I may be, I think you put the
fungus under the microscope.

458
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,000
You got it this this scene where
Everything Breaks Loose we

459
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,100
talked about with ebenbolter
quite a bit.

460
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,600
Wait to go, go listen to that
interview.

461
00:25:51,900 --> 00:25:57,700
I just love the shot of Joel in
the sniper's nest shooting

462
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,200
while.
Then we also go to them on the

463
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,800
ground while then we also see
through his scope it's just the

464
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:09,800
so many perspectives is so cool
and really just makes the scene.

465
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,800
Yeah I mean the tension is like
dialed up to a million.

466
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,800
Yeah you just like But I did
love that thing.

467
00:26:16,900 --> 00:26:21,100
The Kathleen soldiers just had
to be like, I don't care about

468
00:26:21,100 --> 00:26:23,100
anything else like we're all
gonna die.

469
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,300
I mean and you know what part of
it is that for so long, I think

470
00:26:27,300 --> 00:26:30,100
kind of along the lines of what
you were saying before his us as

471
00:26:30,100 --> 00:26:33,000
the viewer I feel like they have
the same thing where they were

472
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,400
so fixated on overthrowing
Federer and now so fixated on

473
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:41,100
getting Henry and Sam that you
forgot that there was a freaking

474
00:26:41,700 --> 00:26:43,800
infected out breakout right,
right.

475
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,200
Right.
And I think it's important for

476
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,200
that to happen.
And if it's used too much, it's

477
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,100
too much.
And if it's not, then when it

478
00:26:52,100 --> 00:26:55,100
happens, it's a little more
exactly warming.

479
00:26:55,100 --> 00:26:56,800
You get ripped in half.
Yeah, floater.

480
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,100
Yeah.
So, you know, Perry gets his

481
00:26:59,100 --> 00:27:01,600
head ripped off because he saved
Kathleen and that scene mate,

482
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,000
that's what made me think of
them having almost like a

483
00:27:04,008 --> 00:27:06,800
romantic relationship because I
don't know.

484
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,000
It's just the way they looked at
each.

485
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,800
Other was just more like oh no,
it was the the kissy blue?

486
00:27:11,900 --> 00:27:12,700
Yeah.
No.

487
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,000
His head was already off the
blur.

488
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,400
Has his head on the hand.
Exactly, I love you Kathleen.

489
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,700
Darlene, come.
Give me a kiss and then I'll rip

490
00:27:24,700 --> 00:27:27,500
your head off.
I want a matching set.

491
00:27:29,100 --> 00:27:34,000
We cannot talk about clicker,
girl, we can't get clicker,

492
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,500
clicker, kid, clicker, kicker,
can click OK.

493
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:42,200
Click our girl.
But that when Ellie goes into

494
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:47,600
the van to seek Refuge From the
creators of the freakin show

495
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,200
decided, oh, you know who can
get through the same thing?

496
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,200
LED did a child?
Now, let's not just make it an

497
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,100
infected child.
Let's make it a clicker child,

498
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,000
and we'll get somebody that's a
contortionist to do.

499
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,500
It torsion is clicker kid.
I mean, it's too much.

500
00:28:05,500 --> 00:28:07,500
Okay, here we go.
We're we should really been

501
00:28:07,500 --> 00:28:12,200
making rules to how to survive
this particular outbreak.

502
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,200
Whenever you go through a tiny
window, Close it behind you you

503
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,400
know we can't blame her.
But yes, shall we get up?

504
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,000
No, and that went it Not only
was it creepy because it was

505
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,800
that kid and it came in your
like that but immediately starts

506
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,500
just twisting and tumbling and
it was baby tumble, surprise all

507
00:28:31,500 --> 00:28:35,400
over again, baby tumbles
surprise.

508
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,400
Bit quicker, prize.
Pick your clicker clicker,

509
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,400
right?
Before your I clicker, clicker,

510
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,200
clicker, she should get a prize.
Be very surprised.

511
00:28:44,500 --> 00:28:49,300
Imagine just the doll with just
mushroomed head and just and now

512
00:28:49,300 --> 00:28:53,000
for Christmas 2023.
It's this hot selling toy.

513
00:28:53,100 --> 00:28:58,300
I love you baby, clicker that.
Yeah they should add a little

514
00:28:58,300 --> 00:29:02,800
voice box to it. 100%, they have
to but oh my god when she just

515
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:07,200
tumble rolled twisted over the
back seat like you didn't need

516
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,100
To show off.
But I'm glad you did because I

517
00:29:10,100 --> 00:29:14,800
would have been 100% like LA and
be like, nope, get out there.

518
00:29:14,900 --> 00:29:18,800
No II mean.
I would have been, like, Simone

519
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,800
biles like to help.
Child is amazing, I need oh my

520
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,200
gosh. 10/10 10/10, right.
I've been scouring the child.

521
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,500
Good job girl, get it it just
like yeah yes I'd be dead dead

522
00:29:30,500 --> 00:29:32,300
for sure.
If you like, I love you.

523
00:29:32,300 --> 00:29:35,600
Stan.
She ate that.

524
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:41,300
No crumbs, no crow.
Yeah, but I would have, I don't

525
00:29:41,300 --> 00:29:42,800
know what I would have done that
situation.

526
00:29:42,900 --> 00:29:45,700
I'm glad she got out.
I'm glad she got out.

527
00:29:45,700 --> 00:29:52,600
But yeah we can't say that she
didn't stick The Landing right

528
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,300
on to Kathleen's face to Bumble
the shit out of it.

529
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:02,300
She said I want Mommy tenderized
you know yes you know it's just

530
00:30:02,300 --> 00:30:05,300
just so much irony and poetic
justice.

531
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:10,200
Is that one of the last Line she
says, is kids die all the time.

532
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,400
What kills her?
A child?

533
00:30:13,100 --> 00:30:17,500
The kid reminds me of that vine.
Yeah, a child, a child?

534
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:23,700
No, but I mean it's great.
It's what a way to go out, but

535
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,700
this show again, is just a
testament to have introducing us

536
00:30:28,700 --> 00:30:33,400
to characters in such a limited
time and the ending of them just

537
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,600
almost being like, oh, you made
me feel something.

538
00:30:36,700 --> 00:30:40,800
Well, you know, Gosh not, I
wasn't, I wasn't sad that she

539
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,000
died.
I'm just, no, no, I mean that

540
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,300
out there, you know, it's this
as a property is so different.

541
00:30:46,300 --> 00:30:49,600
I feel like than any other they
are all zombie things.

542
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,200
Not this one.
They are all so because usually

543
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,400
when I would, I remember
watching something like The

544
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,200
Walking Dead and being like,
where the zombies, give me the

545
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,200
zombies.
This I'm so invested in the

546
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,800
people on the screen, even if
they're only there for two

547
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,700
episodes.
Yeah, I've seen you forget And

548
00:31:07,700 --> 00:31:12,200
then it explodes and you're
like, yeah, I forgot, I thought,

549
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,800
this is just a family drama.
Oh no, this is a family.

550
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,200
Rip your heart out stomp on it a
few times and then probably kick

551
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,800
you in the face.
It's, how is there going to be a

552
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,500
hopeful Arc at the end?
There's not.

553
00:31:25,300 --> 00:31:31,000
So there's not, okay.
I think we got kid clicker out

554
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,400
of our system.
Comment below.

555
00:31:34,300 --> 00:31:37,400
Do you stand kit, clicker?
Oh, I'm anxious.

556
00:31:37,500 --> 00:31:39,400
It.
They're only like yeah.

557
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,500
So like no.
Yes, right, break.

558
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,100
Okay, wait, wait.
Let me contortionist kid,

559
00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:45,400
clicker.
Kills Kathleen.

560
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,100
How's that for alliteration?
Season Kay's?

561
00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:52,200
Wow, that's all that hard cut.
Yeah.

562
00:31:56,100 --> 00:32:01,800
Okay, no, so yes, know, we have
to, we have to, I like how we've

563
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,500
like opened up our episodes a
little more.

564
00:32:03,500 --> 00:32:07,100
We're not going.
So in chronological order, but I

565
00:32:07,100 --> 00:32:10,500
would be just.
It just wouldn't sit right with

566
00:32:10,500 --> 00:32:13,500
me.
If we didn't talk about Kathleen

567
00:32:13,500 --> 00:32:16,000
dying.
Before we talk about the second

568
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,100
ending of this episode.
Let's just end the episode.

569
00:32:19,100 --> 00:32:21,600
Now don't have to talk about it.
All know what happened.

570
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,600
Yeah, it's sad.
It's done.

571
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,300
Tears, tears, crying Emoji.
Crying Emoji, crying Emoji.

572
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:36,800
So, we get a scene with Ellie
and Sam, and this is one of my

573
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:42,000
favorite scenes in the show.
Just from the performances, we

574
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,400
have Sam who's deaf who has to
speak through his eyes?

575
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,000
I know there's a certain name
for this, my know, it's like a

576
00:32:49,100 --> 00:32:53,100
drawing peel.
Or I got magic pad Magic.

577
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,300
Old sheet.
Comment below.

578
00:32:56,300 --> 00:32:57,900
Do you know what it's called?
So it's got it, we're not

579
00:32:57,900 --> 00:33:01,600
Googling it.
No, but we get this conversation

580
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:06,300
with them, and as they're
communicating through this pad,

581
00:33:06,700 --> 00:33:11,900
we start seeing Sam ask very
pointed or bigger questions than

582
00:33:11,900 --> 00:33:13,900
you would think you would ask
when they're just reading a

583
00:33:13,908 --> 00:33:16,800
comic book.
And one of the questions he

584
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:23,400
asked Kelly, Why are you afraid?
Mmm, and she reveals a little

585
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,200
bit of herself and I think she's
kind of hinting at what's to

586
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,700
come.
But she says, she's afraid of

587
00:33:29,700 --> 00:33:33,200
ending up alone, right?
Which is just for a 14 year old

588
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:37,700
to say, is a lot, it's
heartbreaking, it's okay, it's

589
00:33:37,700 --> 00:33:40,800
heartbreaking, your face.
The way you what the words

590
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,300
you're saying, and your face are
complete opposites.

591
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,500
You're like smiling and saying
heartbreak.

592
00:33:45,500 --> 00:33:48,000
Well, you know why?
Because I'm being honest and

593
00:33:48,100 --> 00:33:51,100
also, I wanted to try to make
something work with Heartbreak

594
00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:55,500
Hotel, the song.
No, heartbreak, no.

595
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,600
Is we checked into Heartbreak
Hotel?

596
00:33:57,700 --> 00:34:00,700
I know we did and will never
leave where your Forever.

597
00:34:00,700 --> 00:34:02,400
What?
Yeah, as long as we're covering

598
00:34:02,500 --> 00:34:06,500
the last of us, we are for sure.
Jack didn't know free,

599
00:34:06,500 --> 00:34:12,100
continental breakfast.
But Sam asks, a question that I

600
00:34:12,100 --> 00:34:14,699
think has been brought up in
this type of property before.

601
00:34:15,100 --> 00:34:18,900
And he asks, do you think
they're still human Mint or

602
00:34:18,900 --> 00:34:20,800
something along those lines.
Like, after they turned you

603
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,000
think the monsters are still
themselves writers.

604
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,900
Yeah, I think that was more
along the lines of what he said,

605
00:34:25,900 --> 00:34:30,600
but it's an interesting concept
because why wouldn't a child

606
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:35,000
think that especially a child
that is like posts this.

607
00:34:35,500 --> 00:34:38,400
So he just doesn't I don't know
if he's seen people that have

608
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,800
turned or he just knows that
they look like us but they don't

609
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,000
act like us.
So what is making him do that?

610
00:34:46,699 --> 00:34:49,500
I think also he just saw a child
gymnast.

611
00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:53,400
Still be able to Tumble, oh my
God, that's it, clicker.

612
00:34:53,500 --> 00:34:56,400
We're done with kid, clicker.
I'm just saying I mean, I think

613
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,700
honestly the question comes from
a place of fear because he knows

614
00:34:59,700 --> 00:35:02,000
what's happened to him and he's
afraid that he'll be gone

615
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,500
forever.
Also, what a champ, I mean he

616
00:35:04,500 --> 00:35:08,200
walked all that way.
He was not crying and he looks

617
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,700
relatively fine and he has a
huge bite mark on his leg, which

618
00:35:12,700 --> 00:35:16,200
he does revealed to Ellie and
let's just like a up them.

619
00:35:16,300 --> 00:35:21,000
Trying to make us cry or just
awful when Ellie tells him.

620
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,100
My blood is medicine and she
gets that cuts herself.

621
00:35:24,100 --> 00:35:26,700
Tries to rub it on there because
what I mean at that point, what

622
00:35:26,700 --> 00:35:29,000
do you do II?
Don't blame her.

623
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,300
And it's so selfless.
And it's so I want to protect

624
00:35:32,300 --> 00:35:34,700
you and I want to help you.
My blood is supposed to be

625
00:35:34,700 --> 00:35:37,400
magic.
It's supposed to do this thing

626
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,200
that they're saying, but is it
going to work?

627
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,200
I also think there's the
innocence of a child, right?

628
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,600
Think about, I don't know if you
break a plate of your Others.

629
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,900
And, oh my God, back together.
And you're like, they won't

630
00:35:48,900 --> 00:35:51,700
notice, it'll be okay this fixed
it, you know?

631
00:35:51,700 --> 00:35:53,800
And has like the glitter glue.
Exactly.

632
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,900
Exactly.
It's just a complete mess and

633
00:35:55,900 --> 00:35:58,700
one of the pieces is missing,
but your kid and you're saying,

634
00:35:58,700 --> 00:36:00,600
No, this will fix it.
This will be okay, will do,

635
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,300
it'll be fine.
And it's sort of along those

636
00:36:03,300 --> 00:36:07,900
lines as well of her feeling
like this is this will this will

637
00:36:07,900 --> 00:36:10,000
be okay, I got it.
I got it, I could do this.

638
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:16,200
Yeah, yeah.
And the fact that They decide to

639
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,500
wear Ellie decides to not tell
Joel and Henry.

640
00:36:19,500 --> 00:36:22,900
Like she's really either
believing or hoping that this

641
00:36:22,900 --> 00:36:27,500
blood work and what's just so
sad about this one.

642
00:36:27,500 --> 00:36:32,400
We finally see Sam has turned
into an infected is Ellie was

643
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:37,100
sleeping right there.
He was already turned and by

644
00:36:37,100 --> 00:36:40,900
chance, I guess because he is
deaf, right?

645
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:45,600
Maybe the infected wasn't able
to know No Ellie was there.

646
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,000
Like, you just didn't hear it
because he didn't react until

647
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:52,600
she touched him and it's just,
and it's directly from the game.

648
00:36:52,900 --> 00:36:56,000
Like just seeing that scene
again, these scenes that I know

649
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,600
are happening.
They just hit just as hard, if

650
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,500
not harder because they're
actual people, this tiger.

651
00:37:02,500 --> 00:37:05,900
Yeah, I think the source
material is just incredible and

652
00:37:05,900 --> 00:37:09,500
then it's totally completely
amped up to more human levels

653
00:37:09,500 --> 00:37:13,100
because humans are acting out
these emoji and it's not the end

654
00:37:13,100 --> 00:37:16,800
game of Being a game of being
like that type of playability.

655
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,300
This time it's more you're going
to feel what this thing has been

656
00:37:20,300 --> 00:37:25,800
saying this entire time and the
act of or the attention that

657
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,400
happens in Joel wanting to go
get the gun right away and just

658
00:37:29,700 --> 00:37:33,800
save Ellie because that's the
rational thing to do Henry,

659
00:37:34,100 --> 00:37:37,200
doesn't act rationally.
Because why would he has his

660
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,400
brother?
It's time to process that when

661
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,600
he does shoot his brother.
And seeing what he did dealing

662
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,200
with that mean like imagine your
brother that you did all this

663
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,300
stuff for to save and you
finally think you're safe,

664
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,000
finally think you're save.
Joel has been Joel's going to

665
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,300
take you guys in.
There are going to go with you,

666
00:37:55,300 --> 00:37:57,400
they're going to become of a
quad now.

667
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,100
Yeah.
And the decision that he had to

668
00:38:00,100 --> 00:38:03,300
make in a split second but also
processing that grief and the

669
00:38:03,300 --> 00:38:06,100
grief of like oh shit like he
was gone anyway.

670
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:13,700
You know what just there's also
something to be said About Henry

671
00:38:13,700 --> 00:38:16,800
as a person right compared to
Kathleen.

672
00:38:17,300 --> 00:38:22,700
She couldn't see her brother
being sacrificed to save someone

673
00:38:22,700 --> 00:38:23,400
else.
Right?

674
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,000
Right.
And somebody more in need and in

675
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,500
this scene, Henry is actually
able to make that decision.

676
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:34,600
Yeah, he's able to let his
brother go so someone else can

677
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:35,600
survive.
Yeah.

678
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,500
So he was always the opposite
lane.

679
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,700
Yeah, 100% always yeah.
Always always and Janet Lee.

680
00:38:41,700 --> 00:38:44,900
This is the last of us and you
can't stay hopeful for too long

681
00:38:44,900 --> 00:38:50,400
and you can't be happy for too
long and the look The acting

682
00:38:50,700 --> 00:38:54,600
that Lamar Johnson did was is so
phenomenal.

683
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,600
I don't think I've seen them in
anything else could be wrong but

684
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,400
this is definitely the first
starring role that I've seen or

685
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,000
guest starring and supporting.
Is that a better word?

686
00:39:04,100 --> 00:39:05,700
I don't know how it works when
you're only there for two

687
00:39:05,700 --> 00:39:13,500
episodes, but effective.
Yes, but The choice to, so, he

688
00:39:13,500 --> 00:39:16,400
kills himself, but the choice to
not just go to blacker and the

689
00:39:16,408 --> 00:39:18,100
episode there or anything
because they could have.

690
00:39:18,100 --> 00:39:22,300
It could have been a cliffhanger
Staying on Ellie's face.

691
00:39:22,900 --> 00:39:27,900
That is just the extra punch
because Ellie wasn't able to

692
00:39:27,900 --> 00:39:30,900
save Sam.
And now she lost two people,

693
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,100
right?
And I also think again, there's

694
00:39:33,100 --> 00:39:37,000
that conversation of slowly but
surely Ellie's innocence being

695
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,100
taken away from her, so there
she is again.

696
00:39:40,100 --> 00:39:43,000
Watching another tragedy right
in front of her eyes.

697
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:47,100
And we're seeing her reaction to
that, realizing that she's going

698
00:39:47,100 --> 00:39:49,700
to be an adult now.
Yeah, after this, there's no

699
00:39:49,700 --> 00:39:51,900
going back.
Right, she just on the last

700
00:39:51,900 --> 00:39:57,700
episode really harm somebody
with a gun in a very violent

701
00:39:57,700 --> 00:39:59,500
way.
And then this one she loses two

702
00:39:59,500 --> 00:40:02,600
more people that you really, you
know, wanted to endure and

703
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:07,500
survive with and it didn't work
out and we see her processing

704
00:40:07,500 --> 00:40:11,700
that or really I don't know.
Like she's either at this point

705
00:40:11,700 --> 00:40:15,300
or how they're writing her.
She's able to work through these

706
00:40:15,300 --> 00:40:18,100
fairly quickly.
She's the one that kind of just,

707
00:40:18,500 --> 00:40:21,500
you know, tires ties your shoes
and Like let's go, which way is

708
00:40:21,500 --> 00:40:23,100
west.
Let's go, but she writes.

709
00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:26,000
I'm sorry on his pad and leaves
it on the graves that they Dig

710
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,800
Dug for them.
And it's just such a she know,

711
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,800
she's guilty like she you know
that she's feels guilty about

712
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:38,200
this and and it's so effective
the writing and just the acting

713
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,700
it's phenomenal.
Yeah, I also want to say how how

714
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:47,300
intense just the sound of a
gunshot is, you know, in these

715
00:40:47,300 --> 00:40:51,100
last two episodes we really
didn't see Something like we saw

716
00:40:51,100 --> 00:40:54,200
people holding guns and shooting
people but we never saw the

717
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,200
receiver of the bullet, feel it,
right?

718
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,500
Even when Kathleen murders the
doctor we don't see it.

719
00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:04,900
And in this scene, there's two
just but the sound of a gunshot

720
00:41:04,900 --> 00:41:08,500
is so scary.
And so telling that we don't

721
00:41:08,500 --> 00:41:12,400
want to and we don't need to see
the under Ed other end of it,

722
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,000
you know?
Yeah, the, the effect of the

723
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,400
pool of blood from Sam, instead
of showing his body, which I

724
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,000
think is in weighs more.
Effective.

725
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,900
And I think the right choice do
but showing the blood and it cut

726
00:41:25,900 --> 00:41:29,300
to it a few times and just
showing growing bigger and

727
00:41:29,300 --> 00:41:30,800
bigger.
Like this is permanent.

728
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,500
This is not like this is real,
this actually happened.

729
00:41:34,300 --> 00:41:38,100
It's just it's so many little
details that are in this type of

730
00:41:38,100 --> 00:41:41,400
scene that just shows the
strength of this show.

731
00:41:42,300 --> 00:41:49,400
I very much was hoping that this
was a deviation from the game

732
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,900
because Cuz it they could have.
I'm curious, like I understand

733
00:41:53,900 --> 00:41:55,900
why they did it.
I understand the grand scheme of

734
00:41:55,908 --> 00:42:00,700
things why they did this.
I just like, could there have

735
00:42:00,700 --> 00:42:05,600
been a different way almost, you
know, it almost feels like when

736
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,200
they're taking things from the
game.

737
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,800
They're only going to change it
to make you sadder now.

738
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,800
Do you know, it was like, in the
game with with Bill and Frank,

739
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,300
right?
Frank takes his own life and we

740
00:42:17,300 --> 00:42:18,700
don't even meet him.
We don't know anything.

741
00:42:18,700 --> 00:42:22,300
No, but I'm so.
So he LT still dies in the show,

742
00:42:22,300 --> 00:42:24,900
but we get to see his beautiful
relationship, right?

743
00:42:24,900 --> 00:42:28,100
It even more impactful and made
that blow like a little easier

744
00:42:28,100 --> 00:42:31,100
is like, oh I feel sick but then
like a kiss on the cheek, it's

745
00:42:31,100 --> 00:42:35,000
like, okay, but I also think it
makes it harder as the audience

746
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,100
member to, to watch the person
died, right?

747
00:42:38,100 --> 00:42:42,000
So, even in these two episodes,
we got to really know Henry and

748
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,000
salmon really like them and then
they were gone.

749
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,700
Yeah.
So compared to the game because

750
00:42:47,700 --> 00:42:50,300
we get more time with them.
They change it in the future.

751
00:42:50,300 --> 00:42:52,500
Fact that they actually give us
more information.

752
00:42:52,500 --> 00:42:54,700
Yeah.
It makes the emotional punch

753
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,700
that much more of a knockout.
Yeah it did.

754
00:42:57,700 --> 00:43:00,900
And that's that's what I mean.
It's just such a gut punch.

755
00:43:00,900 --> 00:43:04,200
It's going to be a word that's
used for the show, but I think

756
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:08,200
symbolizes really what the
impact that this story could

757
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:13,400
have, I needed to take a warm
down absent salt after this

758
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:14,800
episode.
He really did.

759
00:43:14,900 --> 00:43:17,800
And then I came out and watch
You've Got Mail.

760
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,200
So yeah.
Meg, Ryan and Tom Hanks, because

761
00:43:20,300 --> 00:43:23,300
I just needed something silly to
watch.

762
00:43:23,900 --> 00:43:26,500
I was so emotionally disturbed
and upset.

763
00:43:26,500 --> 00:43:29,800
Yeah this, I mean episode for
was really like a breather,

764
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,900
almost any between three and
five.

765
00:43:32,300 --> 00:43:34,100
It was a bridge between
tragedies.

766
00:43:34,100 --> 00:43:36,300
Yeah.
And I have a feeling that that's

767
00:43:36,300 --> 00:43:38,600
going to be the the same
pattern.

768
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,000
Next episode is.
We know that he gets to his

769
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,300
brother, Tommy snow, there's
going to be snow, but then

770
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:49,200
episode 7, got punched, episode
8, maybe a bridge episode 9 got

771
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,900
punch.
It's a trend, it's a trend.

772
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,200
Yeah.
The data analysis.

773
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,900
I mean it's like this is fact
that it's gonna happen.

774
00:43:56,900 --> 00:44:01,200
I just want I I just want one
more nice episode.

775
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,600
Can we go see her again or next
episode we'll see what happens

776
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,700
with Tommy.
Yeah, I mean it got announce

777
00:44:08,700 --> 00:44:11,900
that there is season to this
conversation has come up with

778
00:44:11,900 --> 00:44:17,400
Derek and I quite a bit.
I-i'm curious where they go,

779
00:44:17,500 --> 00:44:21,400
like are we they're wrapping up
before the full first game and

780
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,700
this one, which is incredible.
But are we getting the second

781
00:44:25,700 --> 00:44:27,200
game right away?
Are we getting the same

782
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,900
characters playing everybody?
Because if they go straight to

783
00:44:29,900 --> 00:44:34,200
that second one at least older
I'm just really excited for the

784
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,500
show because I feel like after
this season with the success and

785
00:44:38,500 --> 00:44:41,400
everything they can really go
anyway.

786
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,400
Yeah.
Maybe what they'll give us

787
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:49,300
actually.
Is happiness, is the maybe

788
00:44:49,300 --> 00:44:52,800
season two of the show is giving
us the bridge between game one

789
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,600
and game two.
Maybe maybe they might have to

790
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,000
write that whole story for us to
finally get there.

791
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:05,000
I wonder if the decisions for
what these creators and people

792
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:09,800
that are working, the show seem
very intentional and I'm curious

793
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:15,900
if Neil druckmann would want us
to know, No that in between like

794
00:45:15,900 --> 00:45:21,200
would what happens in to be as
impactful if we have to wait as

795
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,200
long?
I know that I believe it was one

796
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,700
of the creators of the show said
that season or part two of the

797
00:45:27,707 --> 00:45:31,500
game would be multiple Seasons,
so they couldn't tell the full

798
00:45:31,500 --> 00:45:35,100
story of two and they're so we
very much just might get to, and

799
00:45:35,100 --> 00:45:40,200
then part or season season 2.
Part, 2 of part. 2 of Last of Us

800
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:41,800
would be the third.
I got it.

801
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,800
So I'm very Needless to say, all
this, I'm just trying to say is

802
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,100
I'm very excited for the show.
I don't think that there's been

803
00:45:48,100 --> 00:45:51,500
an IP that I've known prior to a
getting a screen adaptation.

804
00:45:51,500 --> 00:45:55,500
That I've been this super
excited for or like they could

805
00:45:55,500 --> 00:45:57,400
do anything.
Like I just, I know what's

806
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,200
happening, but I don't and it's
just exciting.

807
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,700
History of the bloater is all
next season.

808
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,500
We just, we live.
We live with an underground

809
00:46:06,500 --> 00:46:08,300
group of bloaters.
No.

810
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,600
Oh my God, imagine there's like
a spin-off and it's like kid

811
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,200
clicker, but they make it like
Sitcom like when they did the,

812
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,400
the Geico caveman or whatever,
but Daddy bloater, exactly mommy

813
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,100
clicker.
Yeah, get quicker.

814
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,300
Can a bloater in a clicker, make
it work.

815
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,600
Welcome on bloaty clicks.
It's just a, what if season last

816
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,300
of, actually, totally.
And so next episode, we get

817
00:46:32,100 --> 00:46:35,600
Tommy, we get some brotherly
bonding.

818
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,500
Hopefully time we get snow.
Do you think we'll get like a

819
00:46:39,508 --> 00:46:43,400
little section of what?
Tom, how Tommy?

820
00:46:43,500 --> 00:46:45,900
Got there, 100% right now, it's
gonna be our flashback.

821
00:46:45,900 --> 00:46:50,200
Yeah, they might introduce us to
them prior to Joel and Ellie

822
00:46:50,500 --> 00:46:51,900
getting to the point that they
are now.

823
00:46:51,900 --> 00:46:55,700
I could see that happening, but
hey, I've been wrong before.

824
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,500
Not often.
Oh gosh.

825
00:46:57,500 --> 00:47:01,500
The Rock will let you have that
for now.

826
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,800
I just, I don't know.
I just can't, I don't know if I

827
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,400
could take this anymore.
It's just too emotional.

828
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:13,400
Yeah, so sorry.
Not covering season 2 will see

829
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,300
Evan, you want to come back and
we're waiting for you, but yeah.

830
00:47:17,300 --> 00:47:20,500
So that's it, you know, ten out
of ten.

831
00:47:20,500 --> 00:47:23,000
I feel like this so far.
There's been no episodes that

832
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,800
could do no wrong in this show.
It's just still so strong

833
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,800
halfway through season one.
Absolutely.

834
00:47:29,900 --> 00:47:34,000
I mean and you know I've said
before I'm not really sort of a

835
00:47:34,008 --> 00:47:39,000
drama guy when our dramas are
not my jam but I have to keep

836
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,700
coming back to it.
It's just too too good.

837
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,000
Yeah there's just two and it's
like sad because it's like I

838
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,500
want to keep coming back to it,
but I know it's going to be

839
00:47:48,500 --> 00:47:51,000
terrible.
Well, we don't know I'm signing

840
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,000
myself, we might tears.
We're gonna get.

841
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,900
Maybe we'll get more episodes
like episode 3.

842
00:47:54,900 --> 00:47:58,300
It was tragic, but it was just
so beautiful, so beautiful

843
00:47:58,700 --> 00:48:01,100
i-i'm.
So okay, we gotta end it here

844
00:48:01,100 --> 00:48:03,200
because we're just going to keep
talking about episodes already

845
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,800
talked about, but again, I can't
stress enough.

846
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,200
Listen to our ebenbolter
interview that we have, because

847
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,100
he tells us some interesting
things about episode 3, And some

848
00:48:14,100 --> 00:48:16,300
of the feathery things that
happen.

849
00:48:17,700 --> 00:48:22,800
Yeah.
But next week episode 6, right?

850
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:27,000
Yeah man, we'll see you then.
Alright, bye goodbye.