The Last of Us 6: Kin | HBO

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Don't leave.
Okay, you're dead.

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I'm fucked up.
Fine, cold air, all of a sudden.

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Hey, I'm Derek.
And I'm Noah.

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Obsession, and enjoy it.

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One nibble at a time and we're
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Last of The Last of Us.
If the snow is confusing us.

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Where are we?
The Yukon Territory?

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Oh, my gosh.
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This, you know, this show every
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This week is just heavy.
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Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
All right, so, let's look back

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at The Last of Us episode 5 and
door and survive.

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Now, do we have to, I'd really
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they said, okay, listen, they
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they said on the last episode of
The Last of Us and we were like,

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oh we have to relive it again.
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we're going to open this episode
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last episode so we're going to
make you watch it twice within 5

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minutes, okay?
And I'm going to make you relive

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it one more time.
Thanks.

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All right after waking up at At
gunpoint, Joel and Ellie share a

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meal with Henry and Sam and
decide to team up.

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While Kathleen continues her
search, the quartet take to the

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tunnels of Kansas City to
escape.

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Wow, addicted to do they make it
to the other side, but Kathleen

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has a sniper waiting for them
when she arrives on the scene.

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One of her trucks, crashes and
creates a sinkhole releasing

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hundreds of infected, including
a contortionist kid clicker, and

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double odor.
Wow.

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Oh yeah, you're on a roll.
Just like her.

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Whoopsies, both Kathleen and
Perry lose their lives during

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the confrontation and Joel.
Ellie Henry and Sam managed to

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get to safety Sam, reveals to
Ellie that he was bit.

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And by the time the sun rises
Sam's time has set my God.

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You're three for three in order
to save Ellie Henry, kills his

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brother and then turns the gun
on himself Joel and Ellie Head

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West.
OK spoiler alert for everything.

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Of us, the sixth episode and
that depressing.

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Look back.
The Derek had to tell us.

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It's part of the show.
Okay, I have to tell you, let us

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officially take a bite of The
Last of Us episode 6.

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Kin.
Whoo, we have three episodes

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left the show, three mm3 whole
episode.

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But we did not not get a great
Cameo from people that Want a

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spin-off of immediately Joel and
Ellie meets Marlin and Florence

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these two like older couple.
So isolated from everything that

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they think that there's Firefly
people out there, they don't

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know anything about anything.
They just know the world went to

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shit.
If I mean I think the true

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person you want to be during the
apocalypse is Florence.

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Oh, Yeah, that's want to be
sitting back being like, okay,

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I'll give you some soup.
No biggie.

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Let's hang out.
Yeah.

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They seemed pretty scared.
It'll be okay.

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Whatever.
Had Stellar performances by Lane

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miles and Graham Greene.
We only got like five five

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minutes with them, but it was
way too short.

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Maybe we could have used a lot
more time with them.

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I thought I, well, I mean
looking when it was like, on the

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next episode of, I thought that
they were part of the Jackson,

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Wyoming gang.
Yeah.

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Part of time, he's gay.
Yeah, they were just a pit stop

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before hand, but I mean, I'm
sure everyone remembers Elaine

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miles from a show called
Northern Exposure and the 90s.

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And that might now I was so
young when that show was on my

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mom, loved it.
And so it was like on at 10:00

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at night, I can hear.
And that moose was like, walking

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along the screen.
Oh man.

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And she had, she brought that
same just like he's and charm to

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Northern Exposure that she
brought to this.

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Yeah.
I loved her.

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Her.
Yeah that she said it like seven

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times and every time she said it
was perfect, it hit perfectly

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but it was nice.
That our Duo got to meet some

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semi nice people before we got
to Jackson which was also filled

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with nice people.
They were standoffish of course

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at first but she already gave
him soup by the time.

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Marlon came home.
I mean yeah, the thing is is so

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we we meet them when Joel and
Ellie are already in their

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cabin, right?
And so Marlon who's played by

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Graham Greene comes home and is
like, what's going on?

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But what even happened?
Like, Joel and Ellie just like,

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rolled up on poor Florence, just
hanging out.

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And they were like, tell me
where my brother is.

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Yeah, that's exactly what
happens and he asked where the

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gun was and she's like it's all
the way over there.

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You could tell that they are, so
they've kept to themselves.

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They've been there for, I know,
however, long three decades

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maybe that they they said they
seem to be doing well, they

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haven't gotten rated that you
know, of They're fine.

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I think that they saw a, she's
probably saw the kid there and

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was like, whatever.
Like I'll give him some soup,

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they'll be fine.
And she even says something to

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to Marlon, right?
Like both are scared, right?

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Like she could even tell that
they're not feeling right that

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they're feeling out of place.
So she I bet looking at them.

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She's like, they're acting out
of fear and that's on them.

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I'm just going to be chill and
hang out.

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What are they going to take for
me?

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Right?
Give them soup, that's about it.

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Yeah, but alas we had to leave
them.

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So sad, and this is three months
since, unfortunately, salmon

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Henry have passed and left their
group.

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So they got to, again, do some
off-screen development.

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And when we get to them, getting
to the river of death, they were

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warned not to go past this
river, which we know is just

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Tommy's commune and they just
put the people that wrong them

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out there.
So, just because there's a bad

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reputation, doesn't mean that
you're a bad person, which I

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think Maria said in this,
Episode.

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I do want to say, how do you
feel about the three-month time

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Jump?
I like it.

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It's fine.
I mean we get Nine episodes this

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season and some of them are
movie lengths.

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I think they're doing such a
good job with character

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development and furthering the
story in that way because the

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game had time jumps as well.
Mmm, so you had to get to those

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moments where the emotional
climaxes of some of those

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conversations with this one had
so many of them, you To get

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those characters there and be
comfortable with talking about

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that stuff and Ellie and Joel,
whenever they're waiting to go

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there, they had to sleep at
night and we get to see the, the

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Aurora Borealis and which was
great.

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I love that little that will
seen it.

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Just visually looked amazing but
she asks him.

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Okay, if you know this is is a
cure.

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What do you want to do?
So I don't think that he would

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be as open to even say anything
if we didn't get those little

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time jumps.
Yeah.

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Yeah, I agree.
I mean, obviously, like you said

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there were those three months of
of development between the two

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of them, but it's so interesting
that he's still even after three

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months of being together.
More than that total.

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He still has that barrier up.
Yeah.

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And you can see, she's
constantly trying to Chisel that

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facade away, but it doesn't seem
to be working.

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We learn it sort of again
fear-based.

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It's a lot of fear within them
but I'm really there's a part of

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me that wants to know what
Happened within those three

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months, was it just traveling
to?

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They come across.
Anyone else, did they meet any

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other infected?
I mean it's possible.

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You know, this is episode 6.
I feel like there have been

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barely any infected.
I mean, luckily we had that big

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call to sack, you know, coup at
the end of the last episode, but

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it really is so much about them.
Yeah.

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And what they're going through
but three months, I guess it's

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nice.
That they maybe didn't have

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anything major going on.
Well, also, look at the

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territory that they're going
through those States.

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Most likely didn't really have
cues.

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He's and if you notice a lot of
the qzzr in big populated places

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that when people think of
America, what do they think of,

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maybe?
Boston.

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Maybe New York, you know, big
hubs like that.

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So it's also winter.
If I don't know how fungus

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really works in the cold but I
don't think that they're as

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mobile.
So maybe it's a good thing

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because I believe in The Walking
Dead.

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There was I'm not comparing the
two but I'm just trying to do

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some like Like zombie infected
science here.

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I don't think they're as active
in the cold as they are not in

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the cold.
Oh yeah, Frozen.

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Yeah, Frozen infected.
They're not going nowhere.

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They're not in Fargo.
There's snow.

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Yeah.
And I guess you're right.

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I mean, they're getting, they're
getting away from more populated

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places.
They're probably getting into

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Farmland, you know, amber waves
of grain and things like that.

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Well, to your point about I
think Joel is opening up But not

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literally, like showing it
outwardly when they leave the

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there.
Marlin in Florence's house, he

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gets his first like really big,
like, panic attack is like fear

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coming up, and he didn't really
show that before.

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And I think with this growing
attached to her and opening up a

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little more as we know in this
episode, it's all because he's

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just scared.
He doesn't want to fail, and he

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feels like he's constantly
failing his daughter and so the

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Zuri gets to Ellie, the more
terrified he is, which I think

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that's showing his growth as
much as he could possibly show

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it because he can't express it.
So his body is like bubbling

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over with very true and I also
think there is also sort of that

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emotion that you might feel of,
you know, like when you prepare

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for something and right when you
go on stage, is when you're the

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most nervous.
Yep.

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And he's getting to that point
where, oh, this is the end of

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our journey.
This is what I'm getting her.

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I'm almost where I I need to get
her and the fear is really

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ramping up because now that he's
so close it almost feels like

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failure would be the ultimate
you know, upset at this point.

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Yeah.
There's a lot of choices that

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have to be done in this.
I know I've mentioned that

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before.
There's there's a literally a

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song in the score from the game
called the choice and it every

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time there's a big choice that
needs to be done, then the

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series, especially with these
two, because we know Joel is

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going to have to make a choice
as you can.

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To continue to bring her to the
fireflies or is he going to have

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Tommy?
Do it.

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And it's a huge choice and I
think he knows that this is a

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possibility.
So then not only is he scared

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the, he's getting closer and
that he's going to fail, but

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he's also scared of.
What if I do, make the wrong

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choice, what if because I'm not
Peak Joel like a year ago that

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could bash somebody's face in at
the blink of an eye.

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Is it safe to do that?
And so I'm is it the right

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choice?
You know, we could be, we don't

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know.
We don't get the other choice

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with Tommy, so we would never
know, but I think in the end he

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does make what he feels like.
It's the correct choice.

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So, you know, a lot of choices
being made in this episode,

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there's a lot on Joel's
shoulders.

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I mean, there's his his past
failures.

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There's this current Journey,
but then there's also, like you

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said, these choices that could
really make or break.

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As a human.
And I think, the thing for Joel

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is that he puts so much value in
to sort of how he can protect

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those who are close to him.
And so, when he failed his

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daughter, when Tommy left, it
was like, one, two strikes.

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Will Ellie be my third strike
and I'm out oh more sharks test

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to he feels like he felt test
very true salmon Henry.

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He's like on strict eight.
Yeah this point.

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Yeah and he does say at some
point in this episode that At in

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these moments where where he
could have acted, he froze,

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right.
And so that fear is keeping him

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in place and so, you know, it's
not good, it's not good, but it

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isn't it?
So it's like this character

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who's been so boarded-up is
finally prying those boards down

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but what it's revealing as
someone who's incredibly afraid.

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Yeah I'm sure he has so much
guilt.

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So much fear, so much
responsibility and then he's

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meant to look like this
terrifying figure, which he is

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and You can be which we've seen.
But is that who he really

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actually wants to be, I mean, he
reveals to Ellie whenever

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they're, he supposed to, you
know, do the night watch.

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But he's so tired that he
doesn't even, he doesn't stay up

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for his watch, which is real
telling for that character.

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But he tells her that he wants
to have a ranch and have sheep.

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Like, that's all he wants to do
their quiet, and it was a dig at

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Ellie, but That just seems like
the type of guy he would

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probably be.
It also feels like the safer

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thing right.
I can be by myself on our ranch

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with animals.
That's how people.

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Yeah, I can fail.
No one needs to rely on me.

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I just need to raise these
sheep.

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It'll be fine.
And what I could do is I can

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sequester myself off from the
rest of civilization because

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everybody's putting so much
pressure on me everything.

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Yeah, okay, let me kill people
my past.

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I have to kill people now, he's
over it.

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He just wants to take care of
some sheep and I get that

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another Thing that happens
though is that we see him sort

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of mumbling in his sleep when he
falls asleep on that.

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Watch so sad.
Yeah, and he's basically just

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constantly reliving his failures
constantly.

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Reliving the people.
He's lost, who wouldn't?

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Yeah, I don't blame him as you
know when every day he has to

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wake up and every day he's like
this is the person you now have

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to protect.
Yeah.

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This is the only person that's
with you and you have to protect

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them so he's constantly worried.
Well he I'm sure his decision to

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ask Tommy about taking la
There's a few things, obviously,

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the deaths of these people that
have joined them on their

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Journey so far.
But it, I feel like subtle

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things happened, right, before
meeting them, that really pushed

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him to doing that and one of
those is when they get past the

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first River and then there's
another River.

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And Ellie is the one that points
out?

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Wait.
What if this is the river death?

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Yeah, that they didn't say and
he didn't even realize like he's

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slipping.
He's not that's not Joel, that's

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not what he's supposed to be
doing and of course Tommy's

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people come.
And that whole scene was very

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intense.
I knew it was Tommy's people but

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the dog, the dog.
I didn't like it.

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Well, I was scared for the dog.
I was scared for Ellie.

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I would because well, we don't,
we don't know how how the fungus

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presents itself in Ellie.
If at all right, she's bitten.

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You can see those sort of veins
in her arms, but it doesn't

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spread she has it.
It's just not acting, right?

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So, can the dog smell it?
Can the dog, not, right?

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Right.
I do want to pause for Second

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though, and talk about how
gorgeous these scenes.

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Are you up to this?
My God, just these beautiful

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Rivers.
This amazing snow everywhere.

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This beautiful Wilderness.
You know, what is the show is

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making me want to do?
Move to Canada because it made a

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Calgary, it's just beautiful,
like, take out the infected and

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the, the cities that are
dominated everything but you did

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the forests that we knew was
that Boston.

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Yeah, we know that this is not
Not Wyoming, but like it's just

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beautiful stunning.
It's so good.

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I mean, that bridge shot.
I thought something was going to

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happen on that bridge.
I didn't like how they shot that

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I, yeah, I thought fine was
going to pop up at a somewhere.

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Some sort of sea monster,
infected.

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Bloater gonna come out and I
don't know, throw up infected

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eels on them or something.
I liked the welcoming party to

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Tommy's comuoon and you know, we
see Maria for the first time.

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Hmm.
And I absolutely They loved what

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they did with Maria, they gave
her a then lifted.

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They lifted this character up a
bit, a character that in the

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especially in the first game had
a part, but they're really

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flushing out these characters
that you care about them and

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you're more intrigued with them.
Like I can't really tell where

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to place them.
Oh, what is this motivation?

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What is this motivation?
But I liked what they did with

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her.
What is Maria's role in the

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video game, the wife?
I mean, she's it's the same

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role.
All, yes, just she doesn't,

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she's not around as much action
because this is more of a

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narrative format as opposed to
playing the game in the game.

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They're not in there, not in
this commune.

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The this Village is community is
very much, looks like the second

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part of the game.
Yeah.

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Where we see your characters
again and never settled in the

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first game, where they find
Tommy?

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And his people, they're actually
in that Hydro Dam.

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So interesting.
Yeah.

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So they made their settlement
there.

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So I think the nod to showing
that was like Hey you know they

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they probably started here but
now they're over here and they

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even say that's where they get
their power from.

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Yeah.
Power from the dam, I like that

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expansion of that.
Because I mean do we really need

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that to do?
We need to be in a bunker again.

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I was going to say it's
definitely prettier to be out in

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this beautiful comuoon than
underground and some sort of

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damn damn damn damn.
But after a long treacherous

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Journey, losing many people
along On the way, we finally get

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the reuniting of the Miller
Brothers and it's just so sweet.

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I just, I love it, it's so nice.
The way he yells for Tommy,

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there is something about people
reuniting that is like, so

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beautiful.
This actually reminded me of The

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Color Purple.
Hmm.

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When Nettie and Seeley finally
get together and and Seeley

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screams across the field, I mean
that one netting that one eye.

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I'm starting to get teary
thinking of that, what?

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I mean, it's I mean, Oscar Oscar
winning, you know what I mean?

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But this one might be Emmy.
Yeah.

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But there's there's something
about that and that's it's a

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portrayal of the actors where
we're just screaming someone's

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name that you haven't seen who
you love so much can be so

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effective and I got teary-eyed
watching The Last of Us.

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Woo man.
That's so I mean the him seeing

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his brother.
The last time we saw him was in

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the first episode when they got
separated, obviously they've

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seen each other.
Since then, but we have not seen

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it and Joel.
Remember he hasn't heard from

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Tommy, at also part of his
mission to get the truck.

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The whole thing in the beginning
was to go find Tommy to save his

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brother.
And he gets there to this like

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idealic community.
And he's like, what building?

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Like something something for
Christmas.

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Yeah boy yeah boy.
Tommy is like in a denim

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shearling number he's like hey
bro.

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Look at my gorgeous hair and Joe
Like I just had to kill so many

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people and Tom, he's like, look
at this, we've got Christmas

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lights, I mean that's, but
that's crazy.

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It up until this point, we saw
Koozies, we saw that.

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So we saw how like how many of
these communities could try and

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fail in different ways.
We got bunkers, we got no

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queues.
He's that were overturned.

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We got keys that were just with
fedra all the stuff, it's not

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working, but this community
communism is, I mean, well, it

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was funny because she was Like
know where a communist.

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It's communism.
It was like I was like oh that

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root word that?
Yeah so much sense.

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Okay thank you for the lesson.
Maria she really was like no

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guys.
Like come come on.

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But I mean like they're able to
celebrate Christmas in some way

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which they had tablecloths on
the tables.

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I mean, like they are living the
life here in Jackson Wyoming,

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are they really are?
The reunions is very sweet.

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Mmm.
I really liked it.

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I can't imagine.
It was going through neglect,

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has of it throughout this
episode, but like, what Joel was

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thinking in that situation, like
obviously, he's happy to see his

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brother, but then he's like, you
didn't need saving also.

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Why was I here with you?
All right, that's what I was

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thinking, right?
So on one end of the spectrum,

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there's Joel who's like been
searching for his brother.

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And then on the other end,
there's Tommy who's been, living

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this beautiful life and wasn't
even getting back on the radio

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to tell Joel that he was there.
Yeah.

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So it was almost like, was he
trying to To distance himself

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from Joel.
And the thing he's been pushing

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away from just walk through the
door.

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I mean it's so it's interesting.
We get that conversation in the

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bar between them, the two of
them, they're finally alone.

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They get to talk and blow after
blow job gets in this

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conversation, he finds out that,
you know, he's married to Maria.

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She's pregnant.
So that's also why he's kind of

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been like I'm just going to help
you do my own thing.

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We're safe here.
We're going to do this.

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But then like he talks about his
time at the fireflies and how

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they were like, don't talk to
anybody, don't tell anybody

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about the settlement blah blah,
but like at least tell him

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you're okay.
Good thing, he didn't because

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then we wouldn't have this story
I guess.

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But well you could just be like,
hey yo Roger Roger for you know,

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whatever?
I'm fine, yep, that's the call.

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Sign, whatever, whatever decade
of music that the he needs to

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sin.
And that he's okay, it's very

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easy for him to be able to do
that, but, you know choices.

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Yeah.
And I think the choice was made

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by Tommy because Joel represents
that dark Point.

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Yeah, where they had to kill
people, right revived.

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And he doesn't want to deal with
that anymore.

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He found this group of people,
he has this beautiful

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relationship.
They're gonna have a baby and

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he's like, this is my focus now.
I don't want to remember that.

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And my brother unfortunately
represents that because Joel

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comes in carrying Seeing all
that baggage literally.

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You know what?
Ellie Ellie he's here, things

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are still bad.
Hello.

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And so I think Tommy's like damn
it.

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Yeah.
I mean he found.

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Yeah, it's interesting.
I think that the relationship

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between siblings outside of an
apocalypse and going on murder

450
00:24:29,900 --> 00:24:33,200
sprees for two decades and
everything is complicated.

451
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:34,500
Yeah, it's usually about
Christmas.

452
00:24:34,500 --> 00:24:37,400
It's oh, no.
It's back to Christmas.

453
00:24:37,500 --> 00:24:40,300
Oh, he's about Christmas.
All right.

454
00:24:40,700 --> 00:24:44,100
A lot happens in Jackson,
Wyoming.

455
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,700
What I'm trying to like piece
together, what I even want to

456
00:24:48,700 --> 00:24:50,900
talk about.
What do you where do you want to

457
00:24:50,900 --> 00:24:51,800
go?
Where what?

458
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,900
There's so much.
Okay, one thing I want to

459
00:24:53,900 --> 00:24:56,300
mention, which will lead into a
conversation.

460
00:24:56,300 --> 00:24:59,700
One thing I want to note because
I'm a very technical Watcher of

461
00:24:59,700 --> 00:25:02,400
these things, right?
I can suspend, I can suspend my

462
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,000
belief that there is a fungal
outbreak and blah blah blah, but

463
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,800
I do think a lot about hygiene
and things like that.

464
00:25:08,900 --> 00:25:11,600
Okay, so when the Diva Cup, Up
is introduced.

465
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,700
Oh yeah I'm like that's that's
baller yeah like because that is

466
00:25:15,700 --> 00:25:18,900
something that Ellie is dealing
with and now here is a bit of a

467
00:25:18,908 --> 00:25:21,600
solution to that problem where
you know she doesn't have to

468
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,300
come across the strait amp on
board in the basement of a

469
00:25:25,300 --> 00:25:26,600
grocery store.
Whatever.

470
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,600
Yo I it's those details, that is
cool.

471
00:25:30,700 --> 00:25:34,300
Hmm.
Because I didn't think about

472
00:25:34,300 --> 00:25:40,000
that, you know but adding that
detail in this type of universe

473
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,500
in the It's like, oh, that makes
sense.

474
00:25:43,500 --> 00:25:47,200
Like, yes, reusable, yes,
something that's a little easier

475
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,600
and that you don't have to
scavenge for, right?

476
00:25:49,700 --> 00:25:53,300
And the fact that Maria, the
character thought that and

477
00:25:53,300 --> 00:25:57,300
thought that far, forward shows
how community-driven shows how

478
00:25:57,300 --> 00:26:01,400
much of a caregiver that she is
absolutely.

479
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,600
And you can see this 14 year
old, and knows exactly what

480
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,600
she's going through 100% and
gives her the supplies that she

481
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:08,400
needs.
Yeah.

482
00:26:08,500 --> 00:26:12,200
Now, the scene that follows
this, I And I want it I'm like

483
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,000
kind of trying to piece together
what it means, right?

484
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,800
It's an exchange of information,
we learned that Maria also lost

485
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,600
a child named Kevin, but this
like haircutting thing.

486
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,000
And I'm like, what is this scene
represent?

487
00:26:26,100 --> 00:26:31,200
I saw it as a few different
things, one, having Ellie

488
00:26:31,500 --> 00:26:36,200
interact with somebody that can
kind of, open up a little bit to

489
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,600
her talk to her and an adult
level because Joel tends to

490
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:45,200
protect / a lot through a lot of
things but also as a woman talk

491
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,800
to her I think it's important
for Ellie to see that there are

492
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,100
strong women that you know she
used to be what an attorney a

493
00:26:53,108 --> 00:26:58,200
district attorney before this
and now she's running a whole

494
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,800
Community democratically
elected, but it just shows like

495
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:07,800
how like this is a path that led
could take and it was important.

496
00:27:07,900 --> 00:27:09,900
Also that she learned about
Sarah.

497
00:27:10,500 --> 00:27:13,500
Yeah, and I think there's also
something to be said about.

498
00:27:13,900 --> 00:27:17,800
So, I think what Maria has
learned from Tommy is that Joel

499
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,400
isn't the best person?
Know, he's Bad News Bears.

500
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,900
And so Maria wants to take this
opportunity to look at Ellie and

501
00:27:23,900 --> 00:27:26,900
be like, hey, do you know these
things about Joel and now he's

502
00:27:26,900 --> 00:27:28,000
like, yeah, I know he kill
people.

503
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,800
Yeah, I know about this.
I know about that.

504
00:27:29,900 --> 00:27:32,600
I love it.
Yeah, she's like, I want another

505
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,400
gun so he gave me.
Gosh, it's almost like Maria is

506
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,900
trying to take her under her
Wing to warn her who she's been

507
00:27:38,900 --> 00:27:41,100
with, but Ellie kind of know.
Is who he is.

508
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,300
And I think Ellie feels that
they really are two peas in a

509
00:27:44,300 --> 00:27:46,300
pod rigel.
They are.

510
00:27:46,300 --> 00:27:48,100
So the things that Maria sees as
bad.

511
00:27:48,100 --> 00:27:49,700
I think Ellie actually looks up
to.

512
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,100
It wasn't interesting seeing.
It was hard to place Maria's

513
00:27:53,100 --> 00:27:56,100
intention.
Yeah, fully, I don't think that

514
00:27:56,100 --> 00:27:58,300
she had bad intentions
obviously.

515
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,500
But what was her endgame.
It was interesting.

516
00:28:03,500 --> 00:28:07,400
Yeah, this this episode feels
like a lot of I'm trying to

517
00:28:07,408 --> 00:28:10,700
think of like the right.
Sort of metaphor is it a wedge?

518
00:28:10,700 --> 00:28:13,900
Like a lot of wedges trying to
be put in between Joel and

519
00:28:13,900 --> 00:28:16,300
Ellie?
Well, it's the choices right?

520
00:28:16,300 --> 00:28:18,800
It's the choice of do.
You stay together?

521
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,300
You've done all this
development.

522
00:28:20,300 --> 00:28:23,100
You went all this way and you're
just going to stop, right?

523
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,600
And but it's like who it's like
it the wedges are coming from

524
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,100
multiple angles, right?
Right.

525
00:28:28,100 --> 00:28:31,000
So it's Maria.
It's Meet Joel himself.

526
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,900
The only one that's trying to
keep them together.

527
00:28:32,900 --> 00:28:33,900
Is Ellie?
Yeah.

528
00:28:33,900 --> 00:28:35,100
But she's a kid.
What did she know?

529
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,900
She knows a lot.
No, I'm saying in Joel's view.

530
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,700
You know what, Joel, you've been
with her for probably four or

531
00:28:41,700 --> 00:28:42,800
five months.
Now, you should give her a

532
00:28:42,808 --> 00:28:45,100
little bit of credit, just a
little bit.

533
00:28:45,100 --> 00:28:48,700
She did save your ass.
Remember saying, remember how

534
00:28:48,700 --> 00:28:50,600
she shot that guy?
Yeah, yeah.

535
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,900
I mean Joel's mental health, and
physical health is really put on

536
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,000
the perv.
You hear that.

537
00:28:58,100 --> 00:29:01,200
He's walking through the
community and he sees that woman

538
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,400
that looks a lot like his
daughter, which was

539
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,600
heartbreaking to see.
And then that woman, that looks

540
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,500
like his daughter had a daughter
and it's just, it's so sad.

541
00:29:10,500 --> 00:29:13,600
Like, I don't even, I couldn't
even know what that character

542
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,900
obviously would feel, but it's
heartbreaking to see and I do

543
00:29:17,900 --> 00:29:20,400
like that instead of getting
these arguments or these

544
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,500
conversations have Sarah's name
being brought up, we almost got

545
00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:27,000
a visual representation of that,
and we see a little flashback of

546
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,100
them.
I'm celebrating Christmas and

547
00:29:29,300 --> 00:29:31,900
maybe that's why Joel doesn't
celebrate Christmas anymore.

548
00:29:31,900 --> 00:29:36,900
And this, this woman, this
person that he sees would is

549
00:29:36,900 --> 00:29:40,300
probably around the age of what
Sarah would be now, right

550
00:29:40,300 --> 00:29:43,100
figure, she would be in her late
20s.

551
00:29:43,100 --> 00:29:46,700
Probably mid 30s records.
If she was like, 14 and 20

552
00:29:46,700 --> 00:29:48,900
years.
Yeah, so she could have had a

553
00:29:48,900 --> 00:29:51,600
child like this other person.
Understand he's constantly

554
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,100
thinking of that.
What would it have been like if

555
00:29:54,100 --> 00:29:56,700
she were still here, if I were
able to save her, well, not in

556
00:29:56,700 --> 00:30:00,600
this position.
Are in very true 100%.

557
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:01,500
Yeah.
Yeah.

558
00:30:01,900 --> 00:30:05,900
The award-winning performance
there's two personally that I

559
00:30:05,908 --> 00:30:08,600
think there's the one with Ellie
and Joel up in the room when

560
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,800
she's reading the diary, mmm.
And then when Joel is in the

561
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:16,000
cobbler shop, trying to fix his
hiking boots and he talks to

562
00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:19,400
Tommy this.
I'll talk about the Tommy one

563
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,200
because I just want to get out
of the way.

564
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,900
The performance of this man.
Just we did not.

565
00:30:25,900 --> 00:30:28,800
We have not seen this.
This type of emotion from Joel.

566
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,000
Mmm.
And you know, Pedro, Pascal

567
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,700
tends to play these characters
that he's either going there.

568
00:30:33,700 --> 00:30:36,800
Stoah stoah can vary.
Like, I don't want to give you

569
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,600
everything, because I'm in the
role of like, Daddy protector,

570
00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:43,400
you don't need to know what I'm
thinking, but he bares it all to

571
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,300
his brother and I don't know if
that was a means to just get it

572
00:30:47,300 --> 00:30:49,600
out there.
But also to convince Tommy to

573
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,300
take Ellie but him just saying
that he's always scared.

574
00:30:53,300 --> 00:30:56,900
He's terrified he, you know,
didn't act with the dog.

575
00:30:56,900 --> 00:30:58,900
He didn't I quit this, he's
failing blow.

576
00:30:58,900 --> 00:31:03,000
All this stuff.
Oh man, we needed it.

577
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:08,000
This is this is what Joel has
been holding in this entire time

578
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:12,600
and he was finally able to just
like emotionally vomit, all over

579
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,200
his brother beat like this is
what's actually going on with

580
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,300
him so we definitely needed it,
Joel needed it.

581
00:31:19,300 --> 00:31:23,500
I think Tommy also needed it to
realize that I think Tommy had

582
00:31:23,500 --> 00:31:26,300
this picture of who his brother
is and by his brother saying

583
00:31:26,300 --> 00:31:29,400
this to him.
It was a reminder like, oh wait,

584
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,700
he's human.
Yeah, he's not a Monster.

585
00:31:31,700 --> 00:31:36,100
Yeah, that I may have painted
him as see my wife.

586
00:31:36,100 --> 00:31:38,300
I mean, let's talk about the
gear upgrades though.

587
00:31:38,300 --> 00:31:39,600
I mean, they're getting new
boots.

588
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,300
They're getting eggplant
jackets.

589
00:31:41,500 --> 00:31:42,800
Oh, yeah.
I mean, I ready.

590
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,300
They have been.
The costume department has been

591
00:31:45,300 --> 00:31:48,800
spot-on with every single major
outfit change.

592
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,500
The Ellie has gotten, she wore
that exact hoodie, at this part

593
00:31:51,500 --> 00:31:56,800
in the game, it's just It just
makes the gamer and me very

594
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,600
happy to see those subtle
things.

595
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,200
Like, it's not gimmicky, it's
not, you know, being like, Hey

596
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,000
guys, you're moving this in the
game Just Happening.

597
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,200
They're honoring the source
material.

598
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,000
I mean even like but the
costumes, the script the look,

599
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:16,000
it's it's just chef's kiss.
Yeah, I I do feel.

600
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,900
This is going kind of segueing
but I feel like I have to talk

601
00:32:19,900 --> 00:32:21,900
about it or else.
I'll forget to talk about it and

602
00:32:21,900 --> 00:32:23,700
then some people might be mad at
me.

603
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,100
I really think that this is
going to be this commie this

604
00:32:28,100 --> 00:32:31,300
community is going to be the
setting or the start of the

605
00:32:31,300 --> 00:32:35,400
setting in the second season if
they do the second part for the

606
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,900
second season it looks so much
like absolutely so much like it.

607
00:32:39,900 --> 00:32:43,000
And then there's two particular
things that happen that make me

608
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,400
think Dinah is there.
They're in the cafeteria where

609
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:52,400
Ellie gets her first like real
meal, which is so sad to even

610
00:32:52,700 --> 00:32:56,500
think about LEL.
Ellie is like, when you adopt a

611
00:32:56,508 --> 00:33:01,300
dog from the pound now, like,
had a just dry kibble forever.

612
00:33:01,300 --> 00:33:03,500
I like didn't have a great life
and then you bring them into a

613
00:33:03,500 --> 00:33:06,400
civilized home.
They're just like, yeah, right.

614
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,100
She's like, she's like beasts
and Beauty and the Beast, when

615
00:33:09,100 --> 00:33:11,100
they give him the makeover and
see the spoon.

616
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,100
Yeah, you know, I mean, she just
like, lashing out at everyone

617
00:33:14,100 --> 00:33:16,300
and like, getting potatoes all
over the place.

618
00:33:16,300 --> 00:33:19,400
Yeah, yeah.
But it's sad.

619
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,800
I think it's, I mean, this is
probably the first like warm

620
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,600
greeting, she's ever.
And from anybody her and Joel

621
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,900
are like such a mess.
My God.

622
00:33:28,900 --> 00:33:30,200
The Pharaohs.
Their Fair.

623
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,600
Exactly.
They're feral.

624
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,400
But, but this particular scene,
I feel like they made it a point

625
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,000
to show this girl hiding behind
the pillar because she looks

626
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,700
just like the character from the
second part.

627
00:33:40,700 --> 00:33:43,500
Totally, I'm not going to spoil
anything, but she's a big

628
00:33:43,500 --> 00:33:46,700
character in the second part.
Number two, that makes me think

629
00:33:46,700 --> 00:33:50,800
that is that person there's a
horse named Shimmer which is

630
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,500
that person's horse in the
second part.

631
00:33:53,500 --> 00:33:56,800
So y'all I mean, Shimmer is just
a little baby right now.

632
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,500
It's so cute.
So cute.

633
00:33:58,500 --> 00:34:00,800
So you know that later is going
to be big horse.

634
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:05,400
Yeah, for someone else.
All right, the choice of the

635
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,000
episode, The Choice, the choice,
the choice.

636
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,199
Ellie is reading another, sad
moment for Ellie.

637
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:14,600
Dear God.
She got to experience a movie,

638
00:34:14,699 --> 00:34:16,500
kind of like a movie theater for
a second.

639
00:34:16,699 --> 00:34:18,100
She didn't seem like, she
really?

640
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:20,000
I heard Richard Dreyfuss.
I don't know.

641
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,300
The kids loved Richard Dreyfuss
so much.

642
00:34:22,300 --> 00:34:25,600
All they had.
They couldn't even scratch up

643
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:30,000
elf, probably Not Buddy, the
elf.

644
00:34:30,100 --> 00:34:32,199
They have probably had to get
things that were actually on

645
00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:37,400
film and like very, very true
but she's in the room.

646
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,400
She's reading a diary and she's
reading about a life that she

647
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:47,300
will never be able to experience
or relate to which is terribly

648
00:34:47,300 --> 00:34:49,300
sad.
Very sad but also I like that

649
00:34:49,300 --> 00:34:53,400
she's all they care about is
boys and what to wear cool.

650
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:56,000
She's like yeah, I had a watch a
kid.

651
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,200
I really like just murdered so
great.

652
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:03,700
I'm glad you press this flower
in this diary your pansy, little

653
00:35:03,700 --> 00:35:07,700
bitch.
Hey, she's probably dead.

654
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,200
Yeah, probably she was too
worried about some stupid shit.

655
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:16,500
Gotta learn how to shoot a gun.
I mean, hey, I mean true.

656
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,400
Ellie is much more able to
survive.

657
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,300
The harrowing Adventures of the
post-apocalyptic world of The

658
00:35:24,300 --> 00:35:29,300
last stop and Ellie but, okay,
she overhears the conversation

659
00:35:29,300 --> 00:35:32,000
with Joe and Tommy, not all of
it, most of it.

660
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,300
She knows that he wants to give
her away.

661
00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:38,900
And have Tommy go take her to
Colorado, to where the fireflies

662
00:35:38,900 --> 00:35:45,400
are Joel tries to explain it to
her, but she also can realize

663
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,800
that she sees her as his
daughter.

664
00:35:48,700 --> 00:35:50,800
And that he doesn't want to
screw that up.

665
00:35:51,100 --> 00:35:54,100
And she's trying to remind him
the scene plays out exactly like

666
00:35:54,100 --> 00:35:57,400
it does in the game and I think
these moments are important to

667
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,500
keep how they are.
And it's something I think Joel

668
00:36:00,500 --> 00:36:04,400
needed to hear because he's just
making all these decisions for

669
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,600
everybody and thinks that
whatever he wants.

670
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,200
And however, he feels that's how
everybody else should feel.

671
00:36:09,900 --> 00:36:13,300
But Ellie telling him everybody
have lost it through the left me

672
00:36:13,300 --> 00:36:16,400
or died.
You're the only one that has not

673
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,200
done that.
If I'm not with you.

674
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,300
What am I left with?
I'm just scared.

675
00:36:20,500 --> 00:36:24,500
Hmm and it's like oh my God,
just take her.

676
00:36:24,500 --> 00:36:27,600
You're almost there.
The both of them in this episode

677
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,700
are finally finally unearthing
all of their fears.

678
00:36:31,700 --> 00:36:35,100
Their finally putting it all out
there and they it's just like so

679
00:36:35,100 --> 00:36:37,100
good to see.
It's like cathartic for us as a

680
00:36:37,107 --> 00:36:39,600
viewer and be like, we know.
We feel so bad.

681
00:36:39,700 --> 00:36:43,400
For you, right?
But it's so sad because she's

682
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,900
pouring her soul out to him and
he's kind of just like sorry.

683
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,900
Yeah.
You don't know what a loss is.

684
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,100
The way he delivered that line.
I was like one.

685
00:36:55,100 --> 00:36:58,700
I don't think you're listening
to her and to your scary.

686
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,600
Yeah, there's there's something
to be said about Joel who can't

687
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,800
seem to see past his own pain,
right?

688
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,000
Because he doesn't deal with it,
he doesn't either know how to or

689
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,200
want to deal with it?
So So what is the do?

690
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:15,100
His body attacks itself because
again, he's your panic attacks.

691
00:37:15,100 --> 00:37:17,500
Is having exactly.
He's having panic attacks.

692
00:37:17,500 --> 00:37:20,300
This man is not dealing with
anything.

693
00:37:20,300 --> 00:37:22,700
He's keeping it all bottled up
and it's eating him alive.

694
00:37:22,700 --> 00:37:26,300
And so the easiest way to deal
with that is to push the person

695
00:37:26,300 --> 00:37:31,100
away and that's what he's doing.
Yeah, I Stellar performances

696
00:37:31,100 --> 00:37:34,700
particularly from these three
from Tommy Joel and Ellie.

697
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,700
Phenomenal performances and they
just kind of heartbreaking to

698
00:37:39,700 --> 00:37:42,100
see her in the morning.
She's already ready to go.

699
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,400
When Tommy goes in the room,
because I don't know if she was

700
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,300
hoping that Joe would do.
We all were.

701
00:37:47,500 --> 00:37:50,400
But when she saw Tommy, she's
like, okay, let's just fucking

702
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:51,400
go.
Let's go.

703
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,900
But Joe's a bit of a softie and
he gives her the choice again

704
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,400
without hesitation, she picks
Joel.

705
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,900
He's like friggin fraggin
flipping and flopping.

706
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,800
Second kid, freaking kids got,
I'm gonna steal this horse.

707
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,300
Let's go.
I'm like, 72 now Tommy's like

708
00:38:10,300 --> 00:38:12,500
thank you.
I'm gonna stay here.

709
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,900
I mean what did he tell Maria?
Oh did he tell Maria?

710
00:38:15,900 --> 00:38:18,000
Or like?
Well, that would have been an up

711
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,200
a trail and it's only right.
If he just left, she knew

712
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:25,000
something was up when he told
back to the movie theater and he

713
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,100
did not even go near her.
Hmm and I think that's what she

714
00:38:28,100 --> 00:38:30,200
feared.
She feared whenever Joel was

715
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,600
there that this would happen not
just her scent.

716
00:38:32,900 --> 00:38:37,400
Take him out of safety.
No, no, no, can't do that, she's

717
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:42,200
pregnant, she's the refresh.
I mean, bad on Joel's part.

718
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,400
Like don't like, come on man.
Tommy's, like we're expecting.

719
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,300
He's like well, can you take
this kid somewhere?

720
00:38:47,300 --> 00:38:49,000
That's a five-day ride from
here.

721
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,500
Thanks also.
Right.

722
00:38:50,500 --> 00:38:53,700
So like he did months across
country, it's like to this is

723
00:38:53,700 --> 00:38:55,800
less than a week.
Five days left.

724
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,300
And he was going to leave her.
Yeah, not good.

725
00:38:58,300 --> 00:39:02,600
This sheep.
Can wait the sheep can wait they

726
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,500
sure can make your way.
All right.

727
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:09,000
Of animals and monkey is enter
the monkey case.

728
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,400
They had to show you something
like hey the world there's no

729
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,200
zoos like monkeys are where
they're not supposed to be.

730
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:16,600
Well it's sort of sad though,
right?

731
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,200
Because they're like all these
are the monkeys that must have

732
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:19,800
broken out of the lab at the
school.

733
00:39:19,900 --> 00:39:22,200
Yeah, they're just taking it
over again.

734
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,100
This is our symbol now.
Good for.

735
00:39:24,100 --> 00:39:28,000
This is actually a prequel to
Planet of the Apes or 28 Days.

736
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:33,100
Later the rage, the monkey rage,
another phenomenal.

737
00:39:33,100 --> 00:39:36,800
In fact, it / zombie property If
you have not watched 28 Days

738
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,800
Later, weeks is good but not as
good, but yeah, it has moments,

739
00:39:41,300 --> 00:39:46,300
watch it like top-tier zombie,
infected property so well done.

740
00:39:46,300 --> 00:39:50,100
It has that like thing where the
guy wakes up by himself and

741
00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:54,200
hospital and he's like, nah,
that's the opening scene of it

742
00:39:54,200 --> 00:40:00,100
is spoiler.
But anyway, yeah, so they get to

743
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:05,700
this college this University in
Colorado and Guess what?

744
00:40:05,700 --> 00:40:07,100
Firefighters aren't there.
They're gone.

745
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,400
They spray-painted their little
symbol everywhere and then they

746
00:40:10,500 --> 00:40:13,100
got out of town.
Yeah, they obviously were there.

747
00:40:13,100 --> 00:40:15,200
They're not there.
So they went all that way for

748
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,700
nothing.
And they have to go to Salt Lake

749
00:40:16,700 --> 00:40:18,700
City.
You know who I blame?

750
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,000
Marlene, Mart.
Where are you?

751
00:40:21,500 --> 00:40:22,700
We're like, yeah.
Go there there there.

752
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,100
Yeah.
Bye.

753
00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:27,400
But they it is interesting,
because why aren't they there

754
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,400
anymore?
So something might have

755
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,300
happened.
Yeah, to make them leave right.

756
00:40:32,500 --> 00:40:34,800
But how long ago was that
because it did not.

757
00:40:34,900 --> 00:40:39,500
Not look like it was recent
agreed but I mean did Marlene

758
00:40:39,500 --> 00:40:42,200
think that they were going to
get there quicker than three or

759
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,400
four months.
Maybe that might have also been

760
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:45,800
part of it.
She didn't know that they were

761
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,000
going to be skedaddling, maybe
well actually that's a good

762
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,900
point because when they were
test died, there was supposed to

763
00:40:51,908 --> 00:40:55,000
be a vehicle for them.
They would have gotten a vehicle

764
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,000
sooner than going to bill and
Frank's, right?

765
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,800
That's true.
So maybe, you know, it's a

766
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:05,500
little confusing because when I
think of The last of us as a

767
00:41:05,500 --> 00:41:09,900
whole, right?
It's like who is the bad in

768
00:41:09,900 --> 00:41:12,100
this?
And it's everyone?

769
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,000
Yeah.
It's the infected it's fedra

770
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,700
each other, it's humans.
It's probably it's like

771
00:41:19,100 --> 00:41:22,500
chemicals.
The fireflies maybe even the

772
00:41:22,500 --> 00:41:24,500
Raiders.
It's like, everyone is just

773
00:41:24,500 --> 00:41:26,300
gonna it's like no one can be
trusted.

774
00:41:26,300 --> 00:41:29,600
It's like, well, the only people
we could truly root for our Joel

775
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,700
and Ellie.
Yeah, I'm well think about what

776
00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:34,100
Maria said to LA and I think is
important.

777
00:41:34,300 --> 00:41:38,700
For her is the only people that
can really break your trust or

778
00:41:38,700 --> 00:41:41,100
the people that you trust.
Yeah.

779
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,800
So choose the people that you
trust wisely because you know,

780
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,400
the more people you trust, the
more people can portray and

781
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:49,500
don't trust ja.
Okay.

782
00:41:49,500 --> 00:41:50,600
Good job.
Gonna Leave You.

783
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,000
Okay.
And he almost did, but good

784
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,600
thing you didn't because Tommy,
but he almost stole our horse.

785
00:41:58,300 --> 00:41:59,400
That's why I'm worried about
most.

786
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,300
Now, the horse, the horse, the
horse.

787
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:06,300
Well, thank God for the horse.
Raiders out of nowhere.

788
00:42:07,100 --> 00:42:10,600
We're just people scavengers,
just happened upon the

789
00:42:10,607 --> 00:42:13,600
university, maybe they're the
reason why the fireflies aren't

790
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:14,700
there anymore.
Hmm.

791
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,700
We get a very short action
sequence very well choreographed

792
00:42:19,700 --> 00:42:22,500
very well done.
They said, guess what happens

793
00:42:22,500 --> 00:42:26,600
below the frame.
You'll never guess, why would I

794
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,800
know why?
Would I guess that you could use

795
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:34,400
a broken baseball bat handle as
a weapon lesson sports are bad.

796
00:42:35,300 --> 00:42:37,500
Let's final plan.
Thank you.

797
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,100
Thank you.
Joel get.

798
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,800
I mean, like, just the
circumference of a baseball bat

799
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:49,100
handle is like bigger than a
quarter, that's how big yeah.

800
00:42:49,100 --> 00:42:53,700
He got like, he got rightly and
truly stab a hole punch, like

801
00:42:53,700 --> 00:42:57,900
right wolf in his gut, then he
pulled it out, which I don't

802
00:42:57,900 --> 00:42:59,800
know if that's a good thing.
Isn't that always like lesson

803
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,800
one, like, don't pull it out, I
don't know.

804
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,100
What is it with stuff?
I know stomach wounds like in

805
00:43:04,100 --> 00:43:07,100
one of Other like, you know,
before really modern medicine

806
00:43:07,100 --> 00:43:10,200
they were fatal, but like,
there's not modern medicine

807
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:11,500
anymore.
Mostly.

808
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,700
So I don't know if you do pull
it out with a stomach wound or

809
00:43:14,700 --> 00:43:17,600
not, I would think no, I don't
know.

810
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,800
Well he does and it wasn't a
good choice.

811
00:43:20,300 --> 00:43:24,700
No, because they're writing any
bass is out Joel, Joel.

812
00:43:24,700 --> 00:43:26,900
The only thing you had to do is
stay on the horse.

813
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,800
That's the only thing you had to
do Joel.

814
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,800
She's 14.
Oh my God you know so versus at

815
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,100
all.
How is she going to put you

816
00:43:34,100 --> 00:43:36,800
back?
Exactly, that's the problem.

817
00:43:36,900 --> 00:43:38,400
I mean I guess you could get
him.

818
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,900
I don't know about dragons
dragon.

819
00:43:40,900 --> 00:43:42,800
Yeah.
Something to make some sort of

820
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,200
pulley system.
Did she get to simple machines

821
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,900
at the federal training?
Yeah, I don't know.

822
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,800
But, you know, they get away and
you're kind of relieved that

823
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,200
they get away, you know, that
he's bleeding.

824
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,900
But then the next scene, when is
he has the reins, but his hands

825
00:43:55,900 --> 00:43:57,400
are just covered in his own
blood.

826
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,600
Yeah.
And he's like paler than the

827
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,100
snow.
No invisible.

828
00:44:02,100 --> 00:44:03,800
All you can see is closed.
He's Casper.

829
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:09,000
Yeah, my God, the final moments
of this episode, with Ellie

830
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,900
begging him to wake up that she
cannot do this without him which

831
00:44:12,900 --> 00:44:17,200
is 100% true because you know,
the most heartbreaking thing,

832
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,900
she said she doesn't even know
where to go.

833
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,300
She doesn't know how like what
what the where the hell are we?

834
00:44:24,700 --> 00:44:28,600
What our train tracks and my
gosh, Marlon, Florence.

835
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,000
We need you.
Oh my god.

836
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,300
Margo save them.
Oh, I would love that.

837
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,300
I would really love that.
I don't know which direction

838
00:44:34,300 --> 00:44:35,900
they went.
She's going to be like I told

839
00:44:35,900 --> 00:44:37,700
you not to go across the river
death.

840
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,900
She's Like, have some suit.
Here's some soup.

841
00:44:40,900 --> 00:44:46,000
Yeah, and then Marlins gonna be
like you stole our rabbit.

842
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:52,100
It's so we're not helping you.
And yeah, this I know the neck,

843
00:44:52,100 --> 00:44:56,500
the next episode seems to be
like a flashback episode because

844
00:44:56,500 --> 00:44:58,100
we see Riley's going to be in
the next one.

845
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:02,500
I I'm not ready.
I think it's, I think it's a

846
00:45:02,508 --> 00:45:04,500
longer one too.
If I'm not mistaken.

847
00:45:04,500 --> 00:45:09,300
From what I've heard out there,
I really, I don't want to watch

848
00:45:09,300 --> 00:45:12,700
the next episode, but I'm very
excited to see what they do.

849
00:45:13,100 --> 00:45:16,100
And, you know, it's sort of evil
is that if they if the entire

850
00:45:16,100 --> 00:45:19,600
next episode is the flashback,
that means we are still hanging

851
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,100
in limbo for two weeks with
Joel's Woon.

852
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:28,700
It might be that.
I feel like We're as far as the

853
00:45:28,700 --> 00:45:31,600
game goes.
Take out the next episode.

854
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,200
We're like right there.
We're like right towards the end

855
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,600
of the game.
So it almost makes sense for the

856
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,500
next episode to be a flashback
episode.

857
00:45:39,500 --> 00:45:41,800
Maybe we'll get some current
stuff baby.

858
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,700
The next episode is the part in
the game that I like to call

859
00:45:45,700 --> 00:45:49,700
Ellie's part and it's you're
just playing a tele because

860
00:45:49,700 --> 00:45:53,400
Joel's into suppose that part is
really cool in the game.

861
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:58,500
So I'm curious to see how she
fares By herself because he's

862
00:45:58,500 --> 00:46:01,800
indisposed.
So she kind of has to do

863
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,300
everything while he's getting
back to health.

864
00:46:05,300 --> 00:46:08,500
So she's kind of kick started
into the stuff that she was

865
00:46:08,500 --> 00:46:10,600
begging him to learn.
Guess what?

866
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,300
You're an adult now hunting, she
has to do it.

867
00:46:14,300 --> 00:46:16,200
Yeah, yeah.
Could have done that target.

868
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:21,900
Practice a little more.
Oh man, I am the next episodes I

869
00:46:21,900 --> 00:46:24,200
just like I'm very excited for
it to be over.

870
00:46:24,900 --> 00:46:27,900
I was just I was literally gonna
say That I've never enjoyed

871
00:46:27,900 --> 00:46:31,100
something so much but wanted it
to be over so badly.

872
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,700
Yeah, yeah, yeah because it's
just gonna get worse.

873
00:46:33,700 --> 00:46:38,500
Yes, gonna get worse.
But hey, guys, hey, you you're

874
00:46:38,500 --> 00:46:41,400
here with us, we're gonna get
through this together.

875
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,800
We're all in this together.
We hope that even though this is

876
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:50,100
heavy subject matter that we can
be light with it when it's

877
00:46:50,100 --> 00:46:52,400
appropriate and that you failed.
Yeah.

878
00:46:52,900 --> 00:46:56,500
But also make your, you know,
your your weeks with some

879
00:46:56,700 --> 00:46:59,200
Smiles, after you cried your
eyes out on Sunday.

880
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:05,200
Nothing says, Monday your streak
down your base.

881
00:47:05,900 --> 00:47:07,800
All right.
Well, okay, so next week,

882
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,300
episode 7, what we're covering
after this?

883
00:47:10,300 --> 00:47:13,000
Who knows?
We have other episodes coming

884
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,900
out obviously before them, but
we got to find her next show.

885
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,300
Comment below.
What do you want?

886
00:47:18,300 --> 00:47:19,800
Our next show to be?
And it will not be the

887
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,100
Mandalorian season 3.
I'm telling you that right now.

888
00:47:23,500 --> 00:47:26,500
No, thanks, just watch it.
That I will be loving gross.

889
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,700
That's all you need to know.
I watch the Mandalorian for

890
00:47:29,700 --> 00:47:30,300
grow.
Good.

891
00:47:30,300 --> 00:47:31,600
Spoiler.
We liked it.

892
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:32,700
Yeah.
Okay.

893
00:47:32,700 --> 00:47:35,600
Done.
Don't let us know because March

894
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,700
is looking a little thin, so I
don't know.

895
00:47:38,700 --> 00:47:41,100
I don't know if we'll ever
emotionally recover from The

896
00:47:41,100 --> 00:47:44,400
Last of Us, my God, it's just
gonna be like care bear season

897
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,200
one.
Yeah, that's the Care Bears to.

898
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,500
Hey, that got that.
Got pretty deep.

899
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:56,100
Alright next week, episode. 72.
Goodbye, thanks for listening to

900
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,500
a bite.
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